I was looking for a controller I could stash anywhere. The brick that is an XBox One or 360 controller I use and love just doesn't fit in a lot of places (tight drawers, bag, a pocket even). The 8BitDo does, and it's not a bad controller either! Sure the sticks aren't amazing, but they work fine and it's not like I'm doing MLG!
@@JeffGeerling yeah I have a couple of their NES and SNES themed one's, for the same reason and nostalgia. Would of got the SN30 Pro too, if they had Xbox layout instead of PS layout.
@@flethacker Yeah, my main thought process was that this runs a pi, so you can theoretically install any Unix OS and have complete control over the device, you can't have custom buttons on a kindle/ipad or android (maybe with a jailbreak and root) but to have total control over the backend is actually a big selling point. If your main purpose was to just run home assistant, a kindle could just have the website up permanantly.
@@Killerjerick I agree, but as a sidenote you can make some widget buttons and put it on Android homescreen - for example, Clusterr did it some years ago (ruclips.net/video/-_zjYMXzo7g/видео.html on 0:30).
For an old timer that's been on the internet since the 90s, if someone told us back then you would have to uses an add blocker on a 4 core CPU operating at over a Ghz per core just to surf the web we would tell you your crazy, this is proof just how bloated the internet has become.
Can't say I disagree. I worked on a few large websites, and it was a constant battle trying to prevent marketing folks from forcing us to add in more analytics and 'personalization'/tracking tools. It got to the point where I had to make a presentation to show them how we could save 80% of the page load time just by reducing the number of trackers/systems that integrated with the site, and thus get more satisfied visitors (and better SEO ranking), but nobody bought it. They wanted that precious marketing data :(
@@JeffGeerling Yet they will suffer in the long run as people turn to adblocking. I resisted for a long long time as I understand something has to pay the bills. But when RUclips started running ads every couple of minutes, I couldn't handle it any more. If they had only kept adverts unobtrusive and lightweight, I don't think people would resort to adblocking.
@@alexatkin I use the Brave browser for you tube and I never get ads while watching any videos, I do get them at the beginning but not every video and then I can skip ad after a few seconds. So they don't show up during. When I use chrome it's a complete nightmare.
They should expand the heat-sink plate to 4x the current size, instead of plastic stiffener ribs they currently have. Also, there is plenty of room for that speaker behind the power switch.
Or they could use the room where the handle is anchored for better speakers. Edit: OH HW is Open Source as well. There is no way stopping us to do something anyway.
@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 they can't without going through FCC certification. Alluminium backed devices are required to obtain additional certification to prove they will not burn the user's lap.
@@parkerlreed I think its going to take quite a long time to develop the UI and stuff for those to the point where they're even barely usable. Hopefully I'm just being overly pessimistic though because the idea of the pinetab sounds awesome.
Wouldn't it be great to have a tablet with a transparent screen and an e ink display behind it? Good performance when using the normal display, then switch to the ink display and the battery will last for days.
Wow, I did something like this with SailfishOS and Nemo Mobile back in 2015. Raspberry Pi 2 of course but the tablet experience was there and the multitasking aspect of a real tablet/mobile-made OS is really good. Might pick this up at some point to refresh some old memories :)
Their keyboard impressed me the most of all-it's actually a pretty darn good implementation compared to many of the custom keyboards that are developed for Linux touchscreens. And they're rapidly improving it too!
Being able to swap the compute module is a massive YES! I would love a high end version of this where I would keep the main system for say 15 years and upgrade the compute module say every 3 years.
It screams for 18650 batteries compartment right in the handle (or at the edge of device) leaving much more space for motherboard and IO ports at the same time.
@@JasperJanssen I'd love to be able to get my kids used to linux. Don't have any yet, but I might adopt some, and this would also be great for teaching them some programming.
@@Darenz-cg9zg I mean, for an older child that’s getting ready to customize their stuff - maybe. But when I see “kids tablet” I think ‘RUclips terminal with maybe a game or two”. I got my Model B secondhand from grandad when he upgraded to the A3000, which would have been when in 1989 when I was 10, and somewhere around 10-12 this would be a nice experimenter platform for many kids. “Kids tablet” for me is more the 6-8 age range where you’re lucky if they watch Let’s Play videos of programming adjacent games.
17:30 Thank you so much for actually showing that you need to press down the cm4 onto the board. For the life of me I could figure out why my board didn’t work and was about to give up.
Thanks Jeff! Great review. I've been watching this project since before the kickstarter was launched, and am very keen to see it finally ship. I love the idea of a repairable, open-source tablet that leverages the Raspberry pi community. It is certainly difficult to compare to other consumer tablets since it is thicker, heavier, slower and buggier than other tablets at the same price point. But the fully open hardware and software ecosystem is a huge advantage that those other tablets can't match : I have a few older tablets that would still be perfectly useful today if they still had software support, but sadly they do not. One gotcha is that there are no PGIOs available, so this does't quite fill the same niche as the RasPad. I'm not sure yet if I will buy one of these, but I feel like it wouldn't take too much to sway the balance in favour of the cutiepi. If version 2 be a bit lighter while rocking a 9 inch 1920x1200 display and staying the same price, then i'd be in! I guess the main issue is that a low-volume, niche manufacturer can't compete on price with the big players. I feel like Raspberry Pi could release their own product in this space that could close that gap. In the meantime, I just might buy one of these in the new year - it would still fill some niches that my Pi4+nexdock does not, and I'm sick of buying hardware that loses software support in just a few short years.
Ah, I'm so glad to see 400 and Pipad! As soon as SteamOS gets to the market we will have a huge change in program (game) development towards linux! It means that we could game on Pi5 with huge amount of non hardware demanding games! What a time to be alive!
Even if Linux gaming gets more popular, I can't see developers porting to Arm in a hurry. Though maybe Apple Silicon will make that slightly more appealing. But honestly, most games are to heavy even for Apple Silicon, I think you're being rather optimistic about what kind of GPU power the Pi5 will have.
Nice chunky device. :) I'd buy it, although the weight could be a problem (I have a fire hd 10 that weights that much and it's a pain to use). I'd not say "it's a raspberry pi" to justify performance though, I'd say "it's a software issue" since plenty of old dual and quad core android phones have better performance when using RUclips due to better optimized software and drivers.
It's got a ways to go for that .. Original OLPC ergo design is a tour de force of great design but sadly hobbled by an anemic processor. i have one I've been meaning to upgrade to Pi.
A version with some gpio broken out would be brilliant for playing with hardware on the move and open up lots of other interesting use cases with sensors, or using it as an oscilloscope etc etc
What a fantastic device! I've been using VNC to port into my Linux machines to do (any serious) work on my iPad when necessary, which was FINALLY possible after the IpadOS upgrade that enabled (clunky) mouse support. This is a real Linux tablet that runs my OS of choice (Ubuntu). I'm a bit amazed. Especially with the potential for continuous upgrades. This is really cool. 8gb of RAM (assuming a compute module upgrade) is really all I need for most of the software I use. Although 16gb would be ideal for 3d rendering software like Blender. This device has lots of potential as the Pi family tree grows...
RJ45 does force a minimum thickness but can be very nice with spotty wifi. If they added RJ45 I'd really hope they'd add POE as well. There now exist USB OTG ethernet NICs that also do POE so you get both power and net with one connector on say a RPI 0. I'm a little sad that the USB C is just power and hence no host or client USB. Still, I'm stoked.
@@edschaller3727 an X jack type of "folding" rj45 could be used. And if present POE power would also be useful. Would certainly add a bunch of cost, but could be a nice portable network tool.
@@minigpracing3068 I'm too hard on stuff. I'd just break an X jack. The cost and parts required for POE make such an addition not viable for the larger audience. The OTG route is probably the best bet for such a tool. At least there is a all in one adapter for that now instead of needing a powered OTG adapter, USB NIC and a POE spliter to do the same thing;)
I wish someone would come up with a board for the CM4 to convert old IBM Thinkpad's. Those things were build like tanks and the hardware still works great. But that hardware was so limited that they can only run very ancient software. 64MB RAM, 233MHz CPU, 4GB hard drives, USB 1.0, no Wifi, no Bluetooth, etc. Plenty of room inside, especially for cooling. Easy to open up. There must be a lot of the things still around, that haven't been dumped in the landfills. Yet.
Apparently CutiePi's been able to secure enough for their shipping units-so in a sense, buying a CutiePi is one way to break through the shortage and get a CM4 😄
Don't forget use uninsulated tweezers to stab your battery, most manufacturers use a battery with much lower performance then it's capable of. If you short the top and bottom of the battery twice the voltage will come out and overclock the components. This is what they do on dev board so they run extra software faster. Just be careful if you stab too hard you can damage the screen.
You can add your own oleophobic coating. People make too big a deal of damaging coatings or not being able to replace them. (i.e. if you bought a cheap screen protector). Also you should be using an alphanumeric keyboard to enter your phone password, and preferably an alphanumeric password, to make it harder to scrape the password by reading the smudges on your screen (source: University of Pennsylvania, 2010, Adam J. Eviv, et al.)
Technically, yes. It would still have those two 'ears' sticking up on the top corners but you would get a smaller overall footprint. There are no wires or anything else going into the handle.
Expansion pinouts would be great to use/test all the fantastic expansion boards outhere. I would use it with pi2aes to it into the ultimate hifi streamer. Make it and call it the Pipad expansion
The chipmunk bug is something present on more USB mics on Linux then just the one from this tablet, i used to use a camera with build in mic from 2007 which sometimes had this issue, which created some funny video meetings with work, especially because it sometimes also made you look purple, imagine that, joining a company meeting and being a purple chipmunk
Was that the new Turing Pi? Definitely excited for that project to produce a board. Jetson nanos and pis together and their own sbc coming? Can't wait.
Camera should be for selfies and videoconference in the big side bezel. If they can still change that. Push IP calls (the Software IP phone starts when receiving a call) with free accounts as linphone ones are growing.
I really dig this thing, would be really handy around the shop with that handle/stand. I kluged together a Pi4 with an old laptop display, which required a DC/DC and an HDMI->TTL display driver from eBay, but after all that I don't even have touch and I need a keyboard (dust magnet) to go with it. I'd likely pair it to my Ikea bluetooth speaker rather than using the internal speaker.
I bet you could 3D print a new back for the tablet to incorperate maybe a piece of alumnium as a heat sink that'll contact the SOC and be exposed on the other side to the air for a bit of heat dissipation. Than again I'm no pro with this stuff so it's probably a bad idea or something XD
I’d like to “piggyback” on your idea by saying that for anyone who DOESNT MIND a 50%-100% GIRTH INCREASE TO THIS, they could EASILY design EITHER: 1. An entirely new shell to incorporate the following….. 2. A “piggyback” module to incorporate the following… The added girth/thickness could EASILY enclose another 20,000+ MAH of FLAT LIPO BATTERIES - Added heat dissipation - And added WHATEVER - I’m surprised someone hasn’t already drawn options up for this. The unit looks to be about 1/2” thick as it is… maybe 3/8”…. So who would REALLY CARE if it even jumped to 1 FULL INCH…? I wouldn’t if I could expand this things abilities by 4-5X… Plus, many people PREFER a more substantial device that will remind them to handle it with the respect it deserves. I don’t have the ability to CREATE any of this, but I do have the LiPo cells and the knowledge that this can VERY EASILY be done… so I figured I’d share, hoping someone picks it up and runs with it.
Jeff Thank you I have been looking for this kind of device for data modes in ham radio. If you have one please test it with an 8G compute module when you get time.
I put in an 8GB CM4 Lite, and also tested an eMMC module and both worked okay. What kind of ham work do you do? I did check that RTL-SDR works, but didn't go too deep with it.
I forgot I watched this video back when Jeff released it! haha. I've been wanting to have a tablet again, and while an iPad is great, I like tinkering with stuff like Raspberry Pi 4s etc and this project is damn cool. Has anyone tried running FreeBSD on this tablet? I think it'd run quite well since FreeBSD runs well on a full-sized Raspberry Pi 4.
I applaud the effort for an accessible Pi Pad -- Using OLPC as a roadmap to build up Cutie Pi might be a good thing [though I personally never found Sugar anything but frustrating]. back when OLPC arrived, the idea of $100 production cost was revolutionary - since then the Compute and screen costs have plummeted so as to make the thing useful and less frustrating. I think there's still a need for an open accessible laptop not yet addressed by the PI 400..basically all the end users the OLPC was targeted for...but don't use a membrane keyboard ;-)
I would definitely pay extra for a higher-quality screen or at least a screen option, then I could use it to remote into my main PC or use to play video on. Yeah it's bigger than my phone screen but my phone that was cheaper than this performs way better in everything.
How to convert your Pi 4 into a tablet from 2010. I don't think people get what the Pi is (or isn't) for. This is like duct taping a lawnmower engine to a bicycle and calling it a motorcycle.
It's just so sad the performance of the compute module 4 with an UI 🥺 when I clicked on the video I was hoping a better experience. Cool project, I hope a more powerful compute module will be released next year
For $228 that doesn't sound too bad. It could fill a desire I've been wanting, and that is a monitor for my wife and kids to keep track of our security cameras. I have something like that on my desk, which is nice for deliveries, and people coming to the door. It unnerves them to have the door answered before they knock. I got one delivery lady running to the door now to avoid me meeting her in the drive.
This is certainly cool and very welcomed, but personally I prefer my flirc case with all the wires sticking out attached to dual monitors. I guess we all Pi in our own way
8:48 720p video on 720p display... works well but like.. not on full screen. it will show the 720p video on like half the 720p display? what is wrong with you? and no, it doesn't seem to work well. It looks laggy, even in the demo.
“Not sponsored, I just like it “ is a better endorsement than any smooth segue.
I was looking for a controller I could stash anywhere. The brick that is an XBox One or 360 controller I use and love just doesn't fit in a lot of places (tight drawers, bag, a pocket even). The 8BitDo does, and it's not a bad controller either! Sure the sticks aren't amazing, but they work fine and it's not like I'm doing MLG!
@@JeffGeerling good choice, 8bitdo is a personal favorite manufacturer of mine. I actually started modding their controllers, too.
@@JeffGeerling yeah I have a couple of their NES and SNES themed one's, for the same reason and nostalgia.
Would of got the SN30 Pro too, if they had Xbox layout instead of PS layout.
"This display requires a custom driver..." DAYS SINCE LINUX KERNEL COMPILED: 0
LOL!
#triggered
"Restart the Clock!"
(Not that I'm any different. I do embedded Linux for the day job...so I recompile almost every work day...)
Boy do I not need this...but boy do I want one lol
Order the cm4 now, get it in 8 months
@@nathanhamman418 That would certainly make for a good Christmas present...for 2022
I feel like this would be perfect to wall mount as a smart home tablet, have all your home assistant buttons/switches on it.
@@flethacker Yeah, my main thought process was that this runs a pi, so you can theoretically install any Unix OS and have complete control over the device, you can't have custom buttons on a kindle/ipad or android (maybe with a jailbreak and root) but to have total control over the backend is actually a big selling point.
If your main purpose was to just run home assistant, a kindle could just have the website up permanantly.
My thoughts as well!!
@@Killerjerick
I agree, but as a sidenote you can make some widget buttons and put it on Android homescreen - for example, Clusterr did it some years ago (ruclips.net/video/-_zjYMXzo7g/видео.html on 0:30).
For an old timer that's been on the internet since the 90s, if someone told us back then you would have to uses an add blocker on a 4 core CPU operating at over a Ghz per core just to surf the web we would tell you your crazy, this is proof just how bloated the internet has become.
Can't say I disagree. I worked on a few large websites, and it was a constant battle trying to prevent marketing folks from forcing us to add in more analytics and 'personalization'/tracking tools. It got to the point where I had to make a presentation to show them how we could save 80% of the page load time just by reducing the number of trackers/systems that integrated with the site, and thus get more satisfied visitors (and better SEO ranking), but nobody bought it. They wanted that precious marketing data :(
@@JeffGeerling Yet they will suffer in the long run as people turn to adblocking.
I resisted for a long long time as I understand something has to pay the bills. But when RUclips started running ads every couple of minutes, I couldn't handle it any more.
If they had only kept adverts unobtrusive and lightweight, I don't think people would resort to adblocking.
@@alexatkin I use the Brave browser for you tube and I never get ads while watching any videos, I do get them at the beginning but not every video and then I can skip ad after a few seconds. So they don't show up during. When I use chrome it's a complete nightmare.
"Oh no I'm stuck in vim!" im dead
25:13 ;)
Getting stuck in vim cemented my decision to use emacs decades ago
Didn't notice that! LOL!
Escape :q!
sudo arch install emacs
:P
@@MrGoatflakes Escape, ZZ
It's not that hard...
They should expand the heat-sink plate to 4x the current size, instead of plastic stiffener ribs they currently have.
Also, there is plenty of room for that speaker behind the power switch.
You should apply for a job to work as an engineer at Raspberry Pi, you sound like you've built one of these before.
Put in a fan as well and OC as far as it can. Or just put in a SOQuartz.
Or they could use the room where the handle is anchored for better speakers.
Edit: OH HW is Open Source as well. There is no way stopping us to do something anyway.
@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 OC=overclock. SOQuartz is a Pine64 product.
@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 they can't without going through FCC certification. Alluminium backed devices are required to obtain additional certification to prove they will not burn the user's lap.
I wish the screen was bigger, it would be a neat PDF reader for textbooks. E ink tablets are ideal but most aren't big enough for textbooks
Pinetab soon
@@parkerlreed I think its going to take quite a long time to develop the UI and stuff for those to the point where they're even barely usable. Hopefully I'm just being overly pessimistic though because the idea of the pinetab sounds awesome.
Wouldn't it be great to have a tablet with a transparent screen and an e ink display behind it? Good performance when using the normal display, then switch to the ink display and the battery will last for days.
@@Darenz-cg9zg some smart watches have been built that way. If you were clever you could use a edge mounted LCD backlight as the e-inks front light.
wow I have same wish. A linux base, E ink and DIY tablet
That UI reminds me of my old Nokia N810 tablet. Those were the days. I'm happy to see something like this slowly appearing again
Wow, I did something like this with SailfishOS and Nemo Mobile back in 2015. Raspberry Pi 2 of course but the tablet experience was there and the multitasking aspect of a real tablet/mobile-made OS is really good. Might pick this up at some point to refresh some old memories :)
this kinda opened my eyes to just how much goes into making these seemingly flawless devices that we use everyday.
Seems like really developed custom OS 'overlay' software. Impressive the work that's gone into this!
Their keyboard impressed me the most of all-it's actually a pretty darn good implementation compared to many of the custom keyboards that are developed for Linux touchscreens. And they're rapidly improving it too!
Being able to swap the compute module is a massive YES! I would love a high end version of this where I would keep the main system for say 15 years and upgrade the compute module say every 3 years.
Is it just me to see the handle as a perfect 18650 housing place for battery expansion
It would also add more weight to the handle in stand mode, which would make it more stable
Lenovo did the same with their Yoga Tab series. And they had great battery life.
It screams for 18650 batteries compartment right in the handle (or at the edge of device) leaving much more space for motherboard and IO ports at the same time.
If the cost was right, this could be a great kids tablet.
Even if it cost a quarter of what it actually does, it’s still not a better kids tablet than a 50 dollar kindle fire.
@@JasperJanssen I'd love to be able to get my kids used to linux. Don't have any yet, but I might adopt some, and this would also be great for teaching them some programming.
I don't think it would serve the right purpose - running their games and shitty RUclips videos
@@Darenz-cg9zg I mean, for an older child that’s getting ready to customize their stuff - maybe. But when I see “kids tablet” I think ‘RUclips terminal with maybe a game or two”. I got my Model B secondhand from grandad when he upgraded to the A3000, which would have been when in 1989 when I was 10, and somewhere around 10-12 this would be a nice experimenter platform for many kids. “Kids tablet” for me is more the 6-8 age range where you’re lucky if they watch Let’s Play videos of programming adjacent games.
17:30 Thank you so much for actually showing that you need to press down the cm4 onto the board. For the life of me I could figure out why my board didn’t work and was about to give up.
Red Shirt Jeff needs to make an all metal back plate for maximum heat dissipation! ;P
brb just going off to buy a cnc :D
@@JeffGeerling pft. Buy a good set of aviation snips, a set of files and drill with a step bit. That's all you need to make a metal backplate :P
[ comes in wearing a smart watch, google glasses, and holding a blackberry ]
How do you do fellow tech geeks!
Thanks Jeff! Great review. I've been watching this project since before the kickstarter was launched, and am very keen to see it finally ship. I love the idea of a repairable, open-source tablet that leverages the Raspberry pi community. It is certainly difficult to compare to other consumer tablets since it is thicker, heavier, slower and buggier than other tablets at the same price point. But the fully open hardware and software ecosystem is a huge advantage that those other tablets can't match : I have a few older tablets that would still be perfectly useful today if they still had software support, but sadly they do not. One gotcha is that there are no PGIOs available, so this does't quite fill the same niche as the RasPad.
I'm not sure yet if I will buy one of these, but I feel like it wouldn't take too much to sway the balance in favour of the cutiepi. If version 2 be a bit lighter while rocking a 9 inch 1920x1200 display and staying the same price, then i'd be in! I guess the main issue is that a low-volume, niche manufacturer can't compete on price with the big players. I feel like Raspberry Pi could release their own product in this space that could close that gap. In the meantime, I just might buy one of these in the new year - it would still fill some niches that my Pi4+nexdock does not, and I'm sick of buying hardware that loses software support in just a few short years.
Ah, I'm so glad to see 400 and Pipad! As soon as SteamOS gets to the market we will have a huge change in program (game) development towards linux! It means that we could game on Pi5 with huge amount of non hardware demanding games! What a time to be alive!
Even if Linux gaming gets more popular, I can't see developers porting to Arm in a hurry. Though maybe Apple Silicon will make that slightly more appealing.
But honestly, most games are to heavy even for Apple Silicon, I think you're being rather optimistic about what kind of GPU power the Pi5 will have.
I can see startups use these as a tablet as an interface for their product, supercool!
The handle makes it look like a Speak'n'Spell... 🙂
"THAT IS CORRECT" -Speak 'N Spell 🤓
well what CAN replace a modern high end tablet? Lets make one Jeff!
The jingpad once they fix the lag
Nice chunky device. :)
I'd buy it, although the weight could be a problem (I have a fire hd 10 that weights that much and it's a pain to use).
I'd not say "it's a raspberry pi" to justify performance though, I'd say "it's a software issue" since plenty of old dual and quad core android phones have better performance when using RUclips due to better optimized software and drivers.
Agreed. That performance looks no better than my Pi 2 which makes no sense as the hardware has dramatically improved.
Would have been cool if they added the 40-pin GPIO header and a M.2 pcie slot. Then it would be an ideal device for hardware debugging assistance.
I loved my Nokia N800 back in the day. Thing was like witchcraft, could Skype and surf anywhere. This kind of reminds me of that with that interface.
This seems like. a spiritual successor to the OLPC>
It's got a ways to go for that .. Original OLPC ergo design is a tour de force of great design but sadly hobbled by an anemic processor. i have one I've been meaning to upgrade to Pi.
I was thinking please be open source please be open source..
Did not disappoint!
When I saw the handle, I thought - Wow - that is a neat hiding-spot for 18650 cylindrical cells. Fast forward to 19:45 >>DoH
Gotta leave room for future upgrades!
This remaind me the old Lenovo Yoga tablet that hide on edge 3 cells 18650.
A version with some gpio broken out would be brilliant for playing with hardware on the move and open up lots of other interesting use cases with sensors, or using it as an oscilloscope etc etc
Couldn't you hook it up to a low end Pi for that?
@@howardlund7669 yeah, but that is more money and more junk (particularly cables) to carry around and Fit on a train table.
Amazing tablet for 2012, can't wait to see what 2021 brings us
Talking facts here
Jeff confirmed as a Dunkey fan. This channel just gets better and better
more stonk
dunderbutt
Why wasn't it called PiPad
Apple lawyers are surely waiting for this to happen with a smile on their faces.
Lovely video. Time just flew by
Love your videos even though I have no idea about most of everything you mention, got me learning about raspberry pi's and arduino's again
That's how i feel when i watch Louis Rossmann
"Reading things is hard" - Jeff Geerling ...Famous last words
I predict that it won't be long before devices like this will be comparable in performance to iPads right now. Probably a few years...maybe sooner.
What a fantastic device! I've been using VNC to port into my Linux machines to do (any serious) work on my iPad when necessary, which was FINALLY possible after the IpadOS upgrade that enabled (clunky) mouse support. This is a real Linux tablet that runs my OS of choice (Ubuntu). I'm a bit amazed. Especially with the potential for continuous upgrades. This is really cool.
8gb of RAM (assuming a compute module upgrade) is really all I need for most of the software I use. Although 16gb would be ideal for 3d rendering software like Blender. This device has lots of potential as the Pi family tree grows...
Hm. This might be the perfect little device to bounce between the 3D printer and the CNC machine.
Can't wait for the Turing pi 2
This is probably stupid, but I'd really like an RJ45 for wired ethernet.
RJ45 does force a minimum thickness but can be very nice with spotty wifi. If they added RJ45 I'd really hope they'd add POE as well. There now exist USB OTG ethernet NICs that also do POE so you get both power and net with one connector on say a RPI 0. I'm a little sad that the USB C is just power and hence no host or client USB. Still, I'm stoked.
@@edschaller3727 an X jack type of "folding" rj45 could be used. And if present POE power would also be useful. Would certainly add a bunch of cost, but could be a nice portable network tool.
@@minigpracing3068 I'm too hard on stuff. I'd just break an X jack. The cost and parts required for POE make such an addition not viable for the larger audience. The OTG route is probably the best bet for such a tool. At least there is a all in one adapter for that now instead of needing a powered OTG adapter, USB NIC and a POE spliter to do the same thing;)
@@edschaller3727 There are those quirky trapdoor RJ45 ports that Dell use....
I like the bloopers at the end, please add more!
iOS keyboard actually makes it easier to type, by changing the touch target size, based on the probability you would press a specific key.
"Oh no I'm stuck in Vim again!"
This kind of easteregg (or pie? 🤔) is the main reason I keep coming back to this channel.
"..the Raspberry Pi Compute Module 4 that powers it." - I guess that rules out us latecomers then 😑
It comes with one! Unfortunately like the CM4, this thing is on backorder :/
Might be great for portable network testing.
Like Nethunter for Android.
I wish someone would come up with a board for the CM4 to convert old IBM Thinkpad's. Those things were build like tanks and the hardware still works great. But that hardware was so limited that they can only run very ancient software. 64MB RAM, 233MHz CPU, 4GB hard drives, USB 1.0, no Wifi, no Bluetooth, etc. Plenty of room inside, especially for cooling. Easy to open up. There must be a lot of the things still around, that haven't been dumped in the landfills. Yet.
You mean the CM4's you can't buy ?
Apparently CutiePi's been able to secure enough for their shipping units-so in a sense, buying a CutiePi is one way to break through the shortage and get a CM4 😄
Don't forget use uninsulated tweezers to stab your battery, most manufacturers use a battery with much lower performance then it's capable of. If you short the top and bottom of the battery twice the voltage will come out and overclock the components. This is what they do on dev board so they run extra software faster.
Just be careful if you stab too hard you can damage the screen.
You look like a younger, better looking Steve Buscemi. When that clip came up I laughed so hard.
Compute module 5 is going to transform devices like this I think
Imagine plasma mobile shell running on that thing! Jeff, you should really try that!
This seems like it'd be very good for running an Octopi instance for 3d printing. Especially if the camera works with it.
You can add your own oleophobic coating. People make too big a deal of damaging coatings or not being able to replace them. (i.e. if you bought a cheap screen protector).
Also you should be using an alphanumeric keyboard to enter your phone password, and preferably an alphanumeric password, to make it harder to scrape the password by reading the smudges on your screen (source: University of Pennsylvania, 2010, Adam J. Eviv, et al.)
I saw a TuringPi2 - HYPE
This really has huge potential.
Can you take the handle off
Technically, yes. It would still have those two 'ears' sticking up on the top corners but you would get a smaller overall footprint. There are no wires or anything else going into the handle.
This has potential for home kitchen management.
Does that handle fold flat against the back of the tablet? 'Cuz if it doesnt, it's go'nna be difficult to stick in a jacket pocket.
No, it only folds to the degree you see in the thumbnail.
I think you're supposed to clip it on a lanyard. Or just hold it on your shoulder in full ghetto blaster stylee.
With the way this looks, I wouldn't hesitate just strapping a big fat power bank to the back of it.
I really like that handle!
...I actually _did_ walk around with my skateboard in the early/mid 90's like Buscemi...
Can't wait the next video about maybe a nas one ? Cheers from France ;)
yes, it's going to be fun!
Saludos desde Honduras.
No sabia que había mas gente que habla español
Expansion pinouts would be great to use/test all the fantastic expansion boards outhere. I would use it with pi2aes to it into the ultimate hifi streamer. Make it and call it the Pipad expansion
The chipmunk bug is something present on more USB mics on Linux then just the one from this tablet, i used to use a camera with build in mic from 2007 which sometimes had this issue, which created some funny video meetings with work, especially because it sometimes also made you look purple, imagine that, joining a company meeting and being a purple chipmunk
I guess I was lucky with the couple of other mics I've used on my Linux machines then!
Was that the new Turing Pi? Definitely excited for that project to produce a board. Jetson nanos and pis together and their own sbc coming? Can't wait.
If it had an IO port this could be a cool command tablet or what a Pip boy is supposed to be, a portable terminal.
Camera should be for selfies and videoconference in the big side bezel. If they can still change that. Push IP calls (the Software IP phone starts when receiving a call) with free accounts as linphone ones are growing.
I really dig this thing, would be really handy around the shop with that handle/stand. I kluged together a Pi4 with an old laptop display, which required a DC/DC and an HDMI->TTL display driver from eBay, but after all that I don't even have touch and I need a keyboard (dust magnet) to go with it. I'd likely pair it to my Ikea bluetooth speaker rather than using the internal speaker.
I bet you could 3D print a new back for the tablet to incorperate maybe a piece of alumnium as a heat sink that'll contact the SOC and be exposed on the other side to the air for a bit of heat dissipation. Than again I'm no pro with this stuff so it's probably a bad idea or something XD
I’d like to “piggyback” on your idea by saying that for anyone who DOESNT MIND a 50%-100% GIRTH INCREASE TO THIS, they could EASILY design EITHER:
1. An entirely new shell to incorporate the following…..
2. A “piggyback” module to incorporate the following…
The added girth/thickness could EASILY enclose another 20,000+ MAH of FLAT LIPO BATTERIES - Added heat dissipation - And added WHATEVER - I’m surprised someone hasn’t already drawn options up for this.
The unit looks to be about 1/2” thick as it is… maybe 3/8”…. So who would REALLY CARE if it even jumped to 1 FULL INCH…? I wouldn’t if I could expand this things abilities by 4-5X…
Plus, many people PREFER a more substantial device that will remind them to handle it with the respect it deserves.
I don’t have the ability to CREATE any of this, but I do have the LiPo cells and the knowledge that this can VERY EASILY be done… so I figured I’d share, hoping someone picks it up and runs with it.
@@flojotube Man, that would be a thicc boy lol.
dangit, i wish i waited for this instead of going with the raspad 3
Good for children or high school students. But a little strange to carry it to a casual business meeting.
They really ought to make an aluminum back plate an option for heat dissipation.
Jeff Thank you I have been looking for this kind of device for data modes in ham radio. If you have one please test it with an 8G compute module when you get time.
I put in an 8GB CM4 Lite, and also tested an eMMC module and both worked okay. What kind of ham work do you do? I did check that RTL-SDR works, but didn't go too deep with it.
Man, I would buy this in a heartbeat if it had a 3.5 mm headphone jack. Such a missed opportunity.
I recon you could add your own in easy enough with a little soldering.
Love it! I can't wait to get one!
Great video, interesting product.
I forgot I watched this video back when Jeff released it! haha. I've been wanting to have a tablet again, and while an iPad is great, I like tinkering with stuff like Raspberry Pi 4s etc and this project is damn cool. Has anyone tried running FreeBSD on this tablet? I think it'd run quite well since FreeBSD runs well on a full-sized Raspberry Pi 4.
I think it needs better cooling, something like Pi400's metal plate.
It does need more thermal mass!
I applaud the effort for an accessible Pi Pad -- Using OLPC as a roadmap to build up Cutie Pi might be a good thing [though I personally never found Sugar anything but frustrating]. back when OLPC arrived, the idea of $100 production cost was revolutionary - since then the Compute and screen costs have plummeted so as to make the thing useful and less frustrating. I think there's still a need for an open accessible laptop not yet addressed by the PI 400..basically all the end users the OLPC was targeted for...but don't use a membrane keyboard ;-)
Sounds like a bigger screen would be a good start but the form factors interesting
Wow I could really use something like this
I think it would be great for Octopi
I would definitely pay extra for a higher-quality screen or at least a screen option, then I could use it to remote into my main PC or use to play video on. Yeah it's bigger than my phone screen but my phone that was cheaper than this performs way better in everything.
I am impressed!
It has a handle that doubles as a stand ... so it is a *standle!*
I think that with a keyboard and mouse could be a neat (and cheap) alternative to a chromebook.
Makes me think of OLPC …
You know, they could've popped some swing-out antennae on it, then it really would've hit that vibe!
@@JeffGeerling I wish the original OLPC display was available for rpi's
How to convert your Pi 4 into a tablet from 2010.
I don't think people get what the Pi is (or isn't) for. This is like duct taping a lawnmower engine to a bicycle and calling it a motorcycle.
Or maybe you don't get that some people like the idea of bolting a lawnmower engine to a bicycle?
Nice product actually. "Shutup and Take my money" meme fits here. But a lot of improvements is possible in terms of design choices.
It's just so sad the performance of the compute module 4 with an UI 🥺 when I clicked on the video I was hoping a better experience. Cool project, I hope a more powerful compute module will be released next year
For $228 that doesn't sound too bad. It could fill a desire I've been wanting, and that is a monitor for my wife and kids to keep track of our security cameras. I have something like that on my desk, which is nice for deliveries, and people coming to the door. It unnerves them to have the door answered before they knock. I got one delivery lady running to the door now to avoid me meeting her in the drive.
8:31 captions are great...
3:22 Perfect for viewing your own RUclips channel!
Hmm.. very similar to what I was about to design...and open source...yayyy
This is certainly cool and very welcomed, but personally I prefer my flirc case with all the wires sticking out attached to dual monitors. I guess we all Pi in our own way
8:48 720p video on 720p display... works well
but like.. not on full screen. it will show the 720p video on like half the 720p display? what is wrong with you?
and no, it doesn't seem to work well. It looks laggy, even in the demo.
It has a standle!