I think the new design puts an extra focus on how.... tragic her story really is. Like, the very idea of a young child manipulated into thinking that sex appeal was the only way to get what she wanted and how, in the end, it nearly killed her and made her life crumble around her. I guess what i'm saying is this design reads more of "I used to be human" and all that entails, rather than "I'm a sexy spider goddess and I've never been anything more" and i really love it
@Apozy ' you do realize heart literally means .. he likes the comment... It makes him happy...?? Why would anyone heart react something that said they did something bad lol
Some worldbuilding thoughts from someone obsessed with Leagues lore: The Geisha look is fascinating, and I love the thought put into drawing those parallels, but as has been mentioned below by at least a few commenters, that sort of look would stylistically put her in Ionian territory rather than Noxus. Given Noxus recently invaded and partially incorporated parts of Ionia into their empire, that doesn't entirely rule that out as being her origin, but I think they would still want it to be represented in her color scheme more for a finalized design. To get away from the played-out 'black widow' look, you might instead go for something like an Orb Weaver spider, more spindly and unnatural looking. Several varieties are actually metallic in color, which could be incorporated into something like a 'steel spider' vibe, playing up Noxus' penchant for the spiky, the brutalist, and the weaponized. Alternatively, since the Spider God Vilemaw came from the Shadow Isles (and has a really sweet design himself if you feel like looking it up; definitely more spider-esque than actual spider) there's some potential direction to take from there instead! They use a lot of gothic shapes, dark steel, and ethereal blue-green. Karthus is also canonically from Noxus prior to becoming a part of the Isles, and could provide a decent foundation for another champion using that particular mix of design iconography. Leaning into the 'preserved lich' angle could also net you a similar 'her face is literally just a mask' approach to what you went with here, but potentially with more of a 'gaunt cheekbones and implied rigor mortis' slant. Anywho, you just got me pondering late at night with this. It's a really slick design, and I loved hearing how you came up with it and seeing it come together. Gonna dig through some more of your stuff, now. Peace!
as much as i love this redesign, there's a small detail that's been bugging me a bit. in Japanese culture usually the neck is used to display power and, well, seduction rather than the chest or legs. i love the long legs on the redesign, but if i were to change it a bit i would drop the back part of the collar and make it so that her legs are just a tad less revealed. then again, i dont know a lot about league of legends so maybe that doesnt fit in with the world, but its just a suggestion :)
Your design is cool and all, but it doesn't match with the theme of Noxus at all. Ionia is more associated with Asian culture, and Noxus fits more into a medieval Europe archetype.
CremeCrimson yea but look at all the characters associated with the place Yasuo a samurai, akali a ninja, and others like yo shen and Irelia. This are even rice farmers in one of the cinematics that take place in ionia it’s pretty clear what culture riot is basing the place off of.
ok the only problem i have with your new version of elise... is that her outfit looks more ionian than noxian. i love the jorogumo reference but it would have fitted her more if she was a vastayan. noxian outfits are rougher, have less cuvers and have more edges. though if she came from a noxian conquered region of ionia it would make sense since noxians adapted to the cultures they conquered. can the next character be JarvanIV. you could give him his king armour considering his father died in the comic and now he needs AN ACTUAL DEMACIAN LOOKING ARMOR
A quick change to make the new design work: She is Ionian stuff plays out similar but with an Ionian husband etc, and then she gets contacted by Black Rose when they invade Ionia.
Or she's from an Ionian family who didn't rebel and instead use this opportunity to rose into nobility thru deception/seduction, and the rest of the story still goes the same. It couldn't hurt to have her clothes to have a little more Noxian touch or if you wanna keep her looks, use the pagodas in the background of her splash art instead of castles, because she kinda looked a bit out of place.
I really need this as a series. You take ambitious approaches on boring and relatively overseen concepts and this is something not a lot of designers take the time to care about. Keep up the good work man, you gained one loyal subscriber here !
I think you did a great job redesigning her. Tho you moved away from noxus, which is a big part of her character. Now she looks a lot more Ionian rather than Noxian. If you continue this series I recommend looking at the runeterra map, where you can see how comon people of those regions dress. But overall good job
I agree. Noxus and Demacia are generally more European in nature, but he went more into Japanese and other Asian themes, which belong in Ionia more than anything.
The ideia of a mask that transform into a mouth is amazing, however the color and clothes for me are the principal problem. If you try something like Gigifabulous metion would be wondefull, and cool design :D
@@gigifabulous i think that it ended up being more solid and unique overall, even if it strayed a bit away from her home - it would make more sense if there were some ties to Ionia in her lore, but i do think that if it focused on Noxus, then the design would remain kind of generic, like it is now, since Elise pretty much already had a really Noxian spider aesthetic
I believe Elise's "ionian" redesign actually strengthens the notion of Noxus being a culture melting pot where ideas and individuality come together and make them stand out. You could say Elise came from a aristocratic family descended from Ionia who allied with Noxus to conquer Ionia itself
wow this video could not have been better timed! my boyfriend and i were just talking about this trope with a lot of league's female characters yesterday. i like your redesign a lot! the idea of a mask that opens up into a fragmented spider maw is cool as hell, and i can see it flaring open as the animation for her human form's q or something like that. i also love your use of color and the incorporation of false eyes into her outfit. the gold really helps bring her affluence out, while also being a nice nod to orb weavers. i only have a couple of qualms: 1. while i don't personally see it as a problem, i know a lot of players (and potentially riot itself) would take some issue with a character from noxus being heavily influenced by japanese culture. ionia is league's typical stand-in for most asian cultures, so having the geisha spider lady not be ionian could be a little weird for some people. you can easily rewrite her lore to have her be a noble from ionia that moved to noxus during the war or something, so this isn't honestly that huge of an issue - just something to keep in mind. 2. one part of elise's lore that i feel is really interesting but untouched in her current design is her status as a bit of a treasure hunter. part of her deal with the black rose is that, as she makes sacrifices to vilemaw to renew her beauty, she brings back magical artifacts from the shadow isles. although i'm lost on how to incorporate that into her visual design, i think having nods to that would be neat. maybe she has a magical mirror on her hip from the shadow isles that she kept for herself, and in her recall animation she could touch up her mask and outfit? just an idea. overall, this video is SUPER good. i'd encourage you to explore more in this space. i would love if you took a look at redesigning kaisa, as she's personally the biggest letdown for me from the visual design standpoint in all of league. thanks for the video! hope you're being safe during these troubling times.
Perhaps you could do Malphite next? He's quite a generic rock monster, and I'd love to see what you can do to him. Edit: Or maybe Chogath. I know he's getting one, but your interpretation will probably be really cool.
Malphite definitely needs some work. His new splash art is nice but in game he’s really stiff and unexciting. Look at his skins like Odyssey or Dark Star- there are ways to make him cool! Definitely on the list
I don't think her thumb is meant to bend that way. Amazing work on her look, who knows, maybe this will come as a new skin. Maybe they will add her in the Lunar Revel event next year. I'd love to see your ideas on someone like Amumu, Cho'Gath, Trundle, Volibear.
PLEEEEEEEEEASE! I adore Zyra, but her blatant bootleg-Poison-Ivy design is so apparent that any time I think about her or play her in-game it's all I can think about.
Tbh for me, the first thing you should see in Zyra are the plants and not the woman they took over. Your first impression should be plants taking over a lady not a lady who has plant powers.
@@negatywnykraken8780 well, she is pretty outdated. And she's a bit shit in-game (and yeah, her design is so bland) I actually forgot she existed until I saw a video "How to counter every adc"
the only thing that i dont like is the geisha's and japanese inspired theme. she was from noxus, dark place, weapons, warriors and generally evil. japanese art like style is more suitable to ionia... the other things i loved well done
probably why elise's previous iteration, pricilla the geisha urgot, was scrapped to begin with. And noxus is closer to lawful neutral. They're expansionist, but a lot more politically progressive....and a lot less bigoted than, say, demacia.
The "generally evil" look was mostly a part of old Noxus, I really like its new canonical culture. Their army let whoever fights for them dress and gear up however they want, but this was put into effect after Swain took over and established the 3. Therefore, if old noxus lore has remained canon, I will agree that Elise should be old enough to continue adopting more traditional Noxian aesthetics.
I like the design overall but I feel this design would feel more at home in Inonia with the heavy Japanese inspiration. So I think you should have done a more europian style to fit with the other Noxian characters. Overall, loved the design and I would love to see a character the Japanese face paint(sry idk what it is officially called :\) with origins in Inonia
Thats exactly what I was thinking. I think for her base skin a good redesign would be maybe a liyyle more victorian or something similar. Then make this concept her blood moon. I absolutely love what he did with her but lore wise it doesnt really fot given that all of the asia themed characters come from Ionia
Noxus is full of various cultures, though. Unless you read the lore it's not apparent, because most of the Noxus champs we have were first designed back when Noxus was it's own, isolated region that was all about being evil and edgy and powerful. In the new lore, though, it's one of the most open-minded, accepting places in Runeterra. Demacia is now the close-minded power-hungry one. Although a lot of Noxians still kind of have a distrust of Ionians because of the war, their hatred is going away, and anyone from any culture can make it big in Noxus as long as they have a skill they're good at. It doesn't even have to be related to raw power. If you're talented at _anything,_ Noxus accepts you.
The redesign of Elise is also interesting as it could add to the depth of Noxus lore as the League's culture melting pot(after many conquest) as Elise's redesign resembles more Ionian than Noxian. But it can put Elise as from a family of aristocratic descended from Ionia who helped to war against Ionia
I like this Idea a lot. Noxus has a lot going on culturally ( Look at Kled for Example). I think it does kind of compromise the Lore that is already in place however.
The Nomad Yeah, Noxus is a melting pot of cultures since they don’t try to stamp out local culture, and they even encourage it. That’s Noxians characters can look drastically different from each other depending on if they’re Noxus born or from one of their colonies.
I can't tell you how much I love the choice to segment the face and have it open up like the Reaper Vampires from Blade II. It's one of my favorite things to do with character designs.
If you do more of these episodes, I’d love to see karthus or nidalee redesigned. Nidalee’s design is interesting but kind of bland, much like elise in my opinion, and while karthus is pretty cool he feels like someone’s DnD character they put in league
Fun fact nidalee has a different design in the lore! Sadly they never made any reference of it besides her one short story. Her redsign has her mostly clothed no boob window (from what I remember) shes a relatively buff women who cant fully speak (plays on the whole caveman idea but honestly I doubt most ionian animals would have different languages) its really sad to see the lore teams better design get hidden by a short story. I know they only rework champions when they arent played enough/ are very old but I really hope riot puts more focus on the lore designs of champions rather then fanservice
Well, she could be changed into a Vastaya. Part animal, part person. In this case, a spider. Would make a hell of a lot better lore than, "She got bit by a magic spider and stabbed herself with a magic dagger". Vastayans are mainly from Ionia. And while Noxus isn't fully trusting of Ionians, it's not unheard of for them to enter Noxus if they have a skill they can show off. Maybe Elise, being an aristocrat, could represent a push from within Noxus to end racism towards Ionia. She could be sort of a rebel force, seducing then murdering Noxian nobles who want Ionians out of Noxus, to set an example. Would be a great way to drive Noxus' story forward.
As a leg man, I appreciate the effort. As an arachnophobe, I’m extremely confused. The design is so much more in depth now and it really baffles me how many spider themed characters go without silk involved in them. It’s pretty much why I think Black Widow is so bland compared to most other Marvel characters, and not just in the movies.
Stuart Stone I mean, the name is just, well, a name. Her character isn’t actually thematically centered around spiders. Her design is bland, but then again, she began as a secret agent and not a public superhero.
ngân nguyễn Qiyana is a walking disappointment especially with all of the cool concept art of her plus now seeing all of the newest art work for Ixtal makes her even more underwhelming
I’m gay for Fictional characters yeah i just see the new comic and art , her dress is ...... normal but like really normal , and her other sisters look cooler than her , sad tho - i like her skill and her bitch talk but she look sooooooooo basic and it boring AF
I really like the mask and geisha elements on Elise, the feature that her mask would crack and expose a spider maw, would work so well for when she casts her Neurotoxin, I also think she could hide her extra limbs in the lore with ribbons, since those extra limbs are close to the back/waist and arms, ribbons on those areas wouldn't look unnatural!. And in-game, her extra limbs could be constantly knitting, so they are not just flapping around as she walks, and it would make sense for her to be playing around with the material that makes her webs (And her E wouldn't just look like it spawns out of nowhere)
I think this looks absolutely fantastic and I really prefer this to the original design. The only possible problem is that riot has said before in the past that they have to greatly exaggerated features for them to be noticable at all because of how zoomed out the camera is and how small the characters are. Because of that it could be impossible to see Elise's mask or the face opening up in game, especially if she is moving around a lot. Other than that, I love this a lot. Maybe you could do Olaf next? He seems very generic right now but could be very cool. He could have a God of War vibe to him
Imo I like the design you did of Elise But the painting that Claire did didn’t really sell it for me But otherwise I think the design looks awesome and that Claire did an awesome job painting the new Elise
We not going to talk about the fact that her thumb is broken to have the fingernail visible from that pose/perspective? Because that thumb is definitely broken.
This looks a lot like her original design way back when the game was still in its early stages. Her name back then was Priscila and she looked like a japanese Urgot
Mailark Rococo themes in the dress and makeup would be extremely cool as a different skin. She could even those silly shoe pom pom things some Marie Antoinet inspired characters have. Coupled with the Big Leg energy and fishnets she’d be funny as well as sexy/badass
As a Elise main I am in love with your ideas of redesing! But as some ppl already mentioned - puting some Noxian vibes into outfit would make it look even more creative and character-fitting
Your new look is great, but I don't really like how her mask is so expressionless, it would be really nice if she had some kind of fake smile. Her expressionless in my opinion makes her look more boring and stale. The whole design is great, but this stale expressionless face, makes her look really uninteresting in my opinion.
That face design at 8:50 was genuinely terrifying for me. The fact it looked like a giant spider but was trying to lure you in specifically sparked that caveman fear of predators.
Finally, someone else who’s tired of the generic sexy-scary lady look! It’s just so boring when everyone has small features, small kinda shiny skin, and skinny-curvy bodies
I found this really interesting as I've never played LOL. I now want to learn about the characters, the lore, and eventually play it! Please continue this as a series!
I like this design but by trying to take out the black and red aspects of it it turned away from Noxus and doesn't look like that's where she's from looks a lot more Ionian
Other champ that might be interesting to redesign is probably Zilean, Zyra, Nidalee, Karthus, Kogmaw, Chogath and Kassadin. Can't wait to see your version of these
Zyra is an interesting one for me to be honest. The first thing I have noticed on her splash art is the woman and not the plant. Zyra's main focus is that she should be a plant controlling a woman, not the other way around.
I would love to see this as a series and would like to recommend Jax as your next one. As for this, I think its excellent. Only thing I could say is you could have pushed the colors further and even went with a lighter scheme bordering on pastels to show more of those uniquely creepy spiders found in more exotic places.
Very cool idea! Issue with it however is that Elise is from Noxus, not Ionia. Meaning this more oriental design makes no sense for a more medieval themed character
I’m not opposed to more animal crossing content. I’d like to see more turning other games characters into animal crossing villagers! What about Minecraft Mobs as villagers?
Would absolutely love this to be a series. Would also love to see a potentially redesigned Malphite or Mundo. I really enjoy the idea of expanding on characters who don't do much with a certain trope. Also am I the only one who thinks the plethora of legs on Elise's in game human model look awkward?
I love this design however I wish she was based off Arachnae from Greek mythology. We see asain inspired spider ladies all the time. I'd have liked the drapery around a toga. But other than my opinions this is a BEAUTIFUL design!
Great video! Great reimagination of Elise! It looks really good! I just had one problem with the design; she doesn't look like a Noxian, but I could absolutely see her as an Ionian with this design!
While her face looks a bit too inhuman to convince anyone to follow her to the shadow isles, this design is really great, pretty much everything about it
try doing cho'gath, he was in riots mind for a while but never got a full visual update, just vfx updates. Would love to see your rendition on this champion !
I really like her idea of being an aristocratic noxian adopting Ionian culture, seeing as how Ionians value balance, Elise could have a twisted form of balance in terms of death(those she seduces) for life/renewal(her beauty and vitality). Elise’s character plays well into the Black Rose faction as their most notable and key aspect being deception, that being said, Elise’s design and motif should share semblance to Elizabeth Bathory or Delphine Lalaurie, two women in power who had an insatiable hunger for personal gain, Bathory most notably murdering for beauty.
This should be in the game because this is actually better than the original and I think it is amazing. Thank you can Claire for doing this and I'm a big fan of Elise and this design you made makes her even better.
Considering how well the rest of the drawing was done, I'm surprised how the artist drew Elise's thumb broken and facing the wrong way lol. They were even copying a reference! The thumb nail is in the wrong place and making it look so off. If the nail was in the right position, the rest of the thumb wouldn't look so off. But seriously, other than that, looks great. Currently, better than I could paint any day.
I am not gonna lie, I think the splash art was really bad. The concept had Elise with big legs and long arms, while the splash had muscular short arm. The perspective didn't help, the pose was awfull and the light was inconsistent, anatomy was all over the place, even without taking the broken finger into account. Overall the design just felt like a bad version of the Blood Moon skin. Still I think the tought process was really good just the execution was subpar.
yesssss please do this, one of my fave champs id love to redesign one day is Vladimir, he's too close to "typical mysterious vampire" instead of his wanted design; ancient mysterious haemomancer that has darkin influence
If there's one league character whose design disappointed me extremely, it'd be Kai'sa. I feel that her design doesn't capture her lore at all, she doesn't look like someone who's lived in the void her whole life only being able to survive because of a symbiote. I'd love to see you do Kai'sa next
Though I like the redesign, I honestly think she is fine the way she is. Everything about her current aesthetic interests me. But that's obviously because of my own preferences. I get adding more color in an attempt to change things up a bit. But there is a reason why that dark style is used so much. It works really well. But I understand that lots of others want something new and different. For me personally though her current design is great. However I wouldn't mind some new splash art (with the same aesthetic) for her lol.
I second it my main issue with this is that he said he wanted something design that doesn't look like any of the other champions, but there are a number of champions that wear Asian influenced outfits and the silhouette he ended up with is largely the same elise's legs and arms make up a large part of her in-game model even the splash for it has the camera center on her legs crossing. most of his changes wouldn't reflect much of a difference in game because a lot of the face markings and whatnot wouldn't read near as well as they would in a painting or comic. also, elise's design is heavily influenced by both the spider motif and also queen of pain from the original dota and i rather like the call back to the games roots.
well, different opinion.. i always loved this kind of character design, dark, brooding, etc.. but i have to agree, the "spider queen" is a bit overused.. Seeing the redesign, i fell in love with it.. that mysterious geisha look is really great.. but the thing is, wasnt it kinda off from the theme on her backstory? a mansion, into a geisha.. imo, i would have used a more dark medieval looks.. but that spider geisha thing looks great.. it kinda reminds me of Black Maria from One Piece tho..
15:36 is it just me or the thumb seems a bit "weird". Cool design, don't get me wrong 😅😅 I love this new interpretation and hope to see more in the future😊💙💙
omg Jack, that's amazing! i also had a problem with Elise's design, and you did an amazing job making her more interesting, i love the new face and gueixa look. Riot seems to usually keep the asian looks for skins, which is a shame, and It would be good to more of it in the base skins. Anyway, great job, looking forward for more of this format.
Right off the bat, I have to say, I love how you redesigned Elise. I love the incorporation of geisha into her appearance. To be perfectly honest, even though I don’t play LOL, (I tried, but the tutorial is pretty bad) I really enjoy the games lore. From the stories of the individual champions, to the AUs based on the different character skins, I find the lore quite fascinating. Also, if possible, it would be really cool if you could collab with T B Skyen in another LOL video in the future.
My only thoughts on this piece is that, I feel like one thing that is missing is the sense of her being a seductress. If I were to change the piece I would have her “mask” as her beautiful face. And the ideal splash art would be of her in an extravagant room, in front of a large full body mirror admiring herself face, elegantly, while half of it is split open to show her deadly spider side. And then in the background is a guy in a cocoon with her spiderlings surrounding him. I believe this to be a good design choice since it shows of her deceptive side, her vanity, extravagance, as well as throwing in a call to two of her abilities.
Your design looks pretty good and all, but unfortunately it wouldn't work in-game, this is something that a lot of artists forget when re-designing league characters. When you play, you look at the game from far away and you can't tell details. So even though I love what you did to Elise's face, there's too much detail and not only it wouldn't be visible but it could get in the way since it's information that you don't need when you play, and in a game where you need to make decisions in less than a second, any useless information can't be in the game.
What would be more interesting is going all out with the Oiran look (Japanese high-ranking courtesan), with the historical fashion references. especially with regards how hideously expensive silk brocade has always been. As Elise is able to produce her own silk, it wouldn't be a far stretch for her to be garbed in silks she produced herself. However when you take in account that during the Edo era girls groomed to be yuujo (Japanese transliteralion of pleasure girls) were confined to the Yoshiwara district, it fits that Elise would be a deadly seductress who kills men during or after sex as a way to cope with the circumstances and trauma of being a sexual slave. And the abandoned building that is her lair? Her *former* *brothel* .
I love what you and claire did to elise! i love the geisha look and i love the mask hiding the horror underneath. a good character i'd like to see you redesign is Shyvana, as much as i like her and that i know she'll someday get a rework she doesn't really feel like a half-dragon warrior in my opinion, more like a somewhat scaled purple lady.
I actually like the original Elise's design more than yours, just my opinion. I think you kinda missed the whole point of her original design when you ”fix” it. Her original design makes her looks like a spider even in her human form with the black and red colour scheme without having to look too demonic (she's supposed to look more like a human to her followers so that she can lure them into the spider lair). Your design of her just have too many bright color (which makes her looks more like a caterpillar to me). Besides, with that design she looks like she comes from Ionia, a whole different region in the game. Better make more careful research before redesigning a character. P/s: I think ”redesigned” is a better term than ”fixing”. It's disrespect to the original artist.
Agreed. Champions like Karma and Yasuo are from Ionia and, therefore, have a more Asian style and design. As soon as he said he tried making her look like a geisha, he lost me. She is a Noxian champion and their style is a more vintage European style with evil and dark elements added onto it. Furthermore, he's trying to make her look too spider-oriented which not only goes against her lore, but doesn't allow her to look like a seductive woman enough. She is literally a sexy spider queen who is half human/half spider, just like how the lore suggests she is and how her design is meant to be. It doesn't matter if he finds that trope boring. Clearly, the team who designed her were inspired by that trope.
Not only its a severe deviation based on the region this visual redesign is intended to communicate, but also her background themes: Not only is she one of the few designs intended to be visually sexualized, such as Ahri and Evelynn, as a means to turn seduction as a tool to lure her prey, but also the religious iconography of her as a cultist leader, which she kind of does by her current arachnid attires as the "Spider Queen", as in the handmaiden of her god.
First I'd like to say that I'd love to see a series of these videos, I don't think there's anybody else out there doing this and I love to see champs in a different light. But I don't think you properly nailed this design in terms of a LoL character. Don't get me wrong, the design is great and is certainly an improvement to the current Elise, but this design fits even worse with current lore than the base version of Elise. This kind of look reminds me more of an old Ionian webweaver that somehow got corrupted into being an actual spider. Pulling ideas from real life cultures is a great base, but you need to realize that there's a bunch of lore revolving around Runeterra and it's culture-rich regions. I'd say that the whole mask idea is fine and the additional limbs sells her concept much more, but the clothing style you chose for this artwork is just not fitting for a Rich Noxian lady. Besides, if I look at this artwork's face, I think of Syndra because of the intense glow in her eyes. For who I'd like to see remade by you would be Malzahar. Since Malzahar has some strange void powers that he uses to controle voidborne creatures, I feel like he currently looks too much like a Shuriman mercenary, rather than a void-corrupted warlock. It also doesn't make a lot of sense that he still manages to look like this, while Kassadin looks like a messed up space diver. Though Kassadin could use a visual update as wel.
Seeing Malzahar would be cool, although based on this redesign I assume Subjectively is new to the league lore. And based on this I wouldn't say that Malzahar would be a good second person to do just based on the fact about how fractured the Void lore is. And how none of the Voidborn designs are canon.
Dude, this is amazing, I think that some champs don’t look their part, especially the girls, thin waist, big hips, huge boobs, it gets really boring. I think that this went for Elise. But you made her look so cultured, and u strayed away from the cliche spider queen transformation. I think you really hit a home run on this! (P.S can u plz do Qiyana next...)
Problem: The Japanese design (Asian wear is in Ionia and she's from Noxus) The fact that the splash art doesn't look seducing at all (he said legs were also a good seducing tool and the splash art didn't even show it) The fact that he made her flat. Sure he could have made Miss Fortune or Nidalee flat but not Elise. That is a big part of her character. The whole mask thing. He said it's supposed to hide something but nothing was really hidden, she still looked creepy and emotionless and still showing that she is a spider. The four arms don't feel right.
This are my problems with the design he made. Which means, it's my opinion. I know you didn't ask at all for this just wanted to express my opinion without attracting a lot of attention. Comments tend to get more attention than replies.
This was a fun watch! I agree with other commenters that you ignored Elise's roots in Noxus in favor of a Japanese inspired (basically Ionian) aesthetic. I feel there's a way to add dimension to Elise while exploring her membership in the Black Rose (which includes LeBlanc, Vladamir, etc.). Her black and red coloring indicate her Noxian heritage (shared with Swain, Katarina, Darius, etc.); but a new design could pull on her ties to the Shadow Isles. Maybe the spider limbs, etc. in her human form are ethereal and ghost-like. I would lean in heavily into the medieval and gothic elements of Noxus for the core design. You bring up novel ideas of seduction, example luxury. Maybe to connote the luxury she'd be wearing gold, ruby jewelry, red satin finery. Elise is proud to have worked her way up in her society, and geisha were not nobility but entertainers. Your design is way less human, which makes sense since that's what you prefer in general. But, that seems utterly contrary to Elise's lore. You explained how the combination of poisons and magic returned her beauty and youth, but you give her a horrifying visage. I don't see her luring in any unsuspecting prey. I think making the mandibles, extra arms, and spider legs ghostly (and only visible in the dark?), would be a clever way to embrace your monstrous design while allowing Elise's illusion of conventional beauty while in 'human' form. I hope I wasn't too critical . As artists, the two of your are fantastic. Your final design looks 'cooler' and more unique. Mission accomplished? I do you the design let go of everything that makes Elise, Elise. I look forward to seeing how you approach other League Champions (Dr. Mundo, Jax, Shyvana, etc.)
I was focusing on tiddy so much i couldnt think of a proper design in my head, but as soon as i saw you colouring the redesign sketch / concept, i instantly fell much more in love with this version of her! great job with the redesign, **he geisha* part was super smart/genius!... so if i were to see her on a roster on a game i played? i DEFINITELY play/main her now, haha. ❤ EDIT: still gushing over how beautiful the colours are AHH!!..
Your version looks great on its own but sadly nothing about it speaks Elise to me. It may be because of the heavy Japanese/Ionian inspiration. Also, I don't like the idea of her face being a mask when she is very obsessed with beauty, covering here face doesn't make sense. I will admit that your version looks more inhuman and scary tho
What exactly is wrong with Zoe in your opinion? I think her design perfectly reflects her lore, whiile teasing at some connection to Fiddlesticks (Tha key). Veigar's design could use an update, but not a complete rework, I honestly thhink he's fine as is. And what's wrong with Nami's design? I really don't see a problem with her.
This is a really intriguing and well thought out redesign. She definitely has a more Ionian inspiration in the iteration. I wonder how her story would change if her lore came from Ionia instead
I think the new design puts an extra focus on how.... tragic her story really is. Like, the very idea of a young child manipulated into thinking that sex appeal was the only way to get what she wanted and how, in the end, it nearly killed her and made her life crumble around her.
I guess what i'm saying is this design reads more of "I used to be human" and all that entails, rather than "I'm a sexy spider goddess and I've never been anything more" and i really love it
@Apozy ' you do realize heart literally means .. he likes the comment... It makes him happy...?? Why would anyone heart react something that said they did something bad lol
Apozy ' i can’t tell if you’re joking or not lmao because that logic doesn’t add up
What he said?
Some worldbuilding thoughts from someone obsessed with Leagues lore:
The Geisha look is fascinating, and I love the thought put into drawing those parallels, but as has been mentioned below by at least a few commenters, that sort of look would stylistically put her in Ionian territory rather than Noxus. Given Noxus recently invaded and partially incorporated parts of Ionia into their empire, that doesn't entirely rule that out as being her origin, but I think they would still want it to be represented in her color scheme more for a finalized design. To get away from the played-out 'black widow' look, you might instead go for something like an Orb Weaver spider, more spindly and unnatural looking. Several varieties are actually metallic in color, which could be incorporated into something like a 'steel spider' vibe, playing up Noxus' penchant for the spiky, the brutalist, and the weaponized.
Alternatively, since the Spider God Vilemaw came from the Shadow Isles (and has a really sweet design himself if you feel like looking it up; definitely more spider-esque than actual spider) there's some potential direction to take from there instead! They use a lot of gothic shapes, dark steel, and ethereal blue-green. Karthus is also canonically from Noxus prior to becoming a part of the Isles, and could provide a decent foundation for another champion using that particular mix of design iconography. Leaning into the 'preserved lich' angle could also net you a similar 'her face is literally just a mask' approach to what you went with here, but potentially with more of a 'gaunt cheekbones and implied rigor mortis' slant.
Anywho, you just got me pondering late at night with this. It's a really slick design, and I loved hearing how you came up with it and seeing it come together. Gonna dig through some more of your stuff, now. Peace!
man I wish I could pin comments on other people's videos just for this one comment lol. couldn't have said it better myself, and I love your ideas
Riot games sometimes does competitions where they have the community design a new character, I think you'd be great for that.
He wouldnt win with this one is thats whats implied. But i kinda really want that too
When have they ever done that, though it would be awesome if they did
Yes but they are people at Riot who are pays to make the designs
@@elmaxoo.g1313 in an ideal world every company has designers as a separate department.
@@statikin5110 they do with skins not with champions
as much as i love this redesign, there's a small detail that's been bugging me a bit. in Japanese culture usually the neck is used to display power and, well, seduction rather than the chest or legs. i love the long legs on the redesign, but if i were to change it a bit i would drop the back part of the collar and make it so that her legs are just a tad less revealed. then again, i dont know a lot about league of legends so maybe that doesnt fit in with the world, but its just a suggestion :)
why not both?
art brain: elise's design elements have been done to death, and she should be redesigned
lesbian brain: spider lady,,, titty,,, nice,,
This is such a big mood
Call me a big ol poop brain but I just like her spider form. I hate going against her tough
yes. big mood.
😔
-me trying to focus on thoughts on how to redesign her but can only ofocus on tIDDY..-
edit: she turned out great!!
art says elise bad
the horny sais elise good
That’s me at most of the female in lol the lesbian in me too strong
Your design is cool and all, but it doesn't match with the theme of Noxus at all. Ionia is more associated with Asian culture, and Noxus fits more into a medieval Europe archetype.
Ionia is literally named after an area in greece.
CremeCrimson yea but look at all the characters associated with the place Yasuo a samurai, akali a ninja, and others like yo shen and Irelia. This are even rice farmers in one of the cinematics that take place in ionia it’s pretty clear what culture riot is basing the place off of.
@@dantereaves2660 Yeah, Riot's worldbuilding is pretty shit. They should've took or created a name derivative of Japanese culture instead.
@@sawmesalami i can't believe what I just read lol. Riots world building is shit because they chose a name?
@@lich.possum 😑
ok the only problem i have with your new version of elise... is that her outfit looks more ionian than noxian. i love the jorogumo reference but it would have fitted her more if she was a vastayan. noxian outfits are rougher, have less cuvers and have more edges. though if she came from a noxian conquered region of ionia it would make sense since noxians adapted to the cultures they conquered.
can the next character be JarvanIV. you could give him his king armour considering his father died in the comic and now he needs AN ACTUAL DEMACIAN LOOKING ARMOR
A quick change to make the new design work: She is Ionian stuff plays out similar but with an Ionian husband etc, and then she gets contacted by Black Rose when they invade Ionia.
@@Ghilannugs and in return would make her lore a ton more interesting(in my opinion)
I actually like how it looks Ionian. It plays into her themes of deceit and disguise.
The armor Jarvan IV wears in game is his fathers armor.
Or she's from an Ionian family who didn't rebel and instead use this opportunity to rose into nobility thru deception/seduction, and the rest of the story still goes the same. It couldn't hurt to have her clothes to have a little more Noxian touch or if you wanna keep her looks, use the pagodas in the background of her splash art instead of castles, because she kinda looked a bit out of place.
I really need this as a series. You take ambitious approaches on boring and relatively overseen concepts and this is something not a lot of designers take the time to care about. Keep up the good work man, you gained one loyal subscriber here !
I think you did a great job redesigning her. Tho you moved away from noxus, which is a big part of her character. Now she looks a lot more Ionian rather than Noxian. If you continue this series I recommend looking at the runeterra map, where you can see how comon people of those regions dress. But overall good job
I agree. Noxus and Demacia are generally more European in nature, but he went more into Japanese and other Asian themes, which belong in Ionia more than anything.
The ideia of a mask that transform into a mouth is amazing, however the color and clothes for me are the principal problem. If you try something like Gigifabulous metion would be wondefull, and cool design :D
Same here I love the redesign but it strayed too far away from what I’d imagine a Shadow Isles/Noxian character to be.
@@gigifabulous i think that it ended up being more solid and unique overall, even if it strayed a bit away from her home - it would make more sense if there were some ties to Ionia in her lore, but i do think that if it focused on Noxus, then the design would remain kind of generic, like it is now, since Elise pretty much already had a really Noxian spider aesthetic
I believe Elise's "ionian" redesign actually strengthens the notion of Noxus being a culture melting pot where ideas and individuality come together and make them stand out. You could say Elise came from a aristocratic family descended from Ionia who allied with Noxus to conquer Ionia itself
wow this video could not have been better timed! my boyfriend and i were just talking about this trope with a lot of league's female characters yesterday.
i like your redesign a lot! the idea of a mask that opens up into a fragmented spider maw is cool as hell, and i can see it flaring open as the animation for her human form's q or something like that. i also love your use of color and the incorporation of false eyes into her outfit. the gold really helps bring her affluence out, while also being a nice nod to orb weavers.
i only have a couple of qualms:
1. while i don't personally see it as a problem, i know a lot of players (and potentially riot itself) would take some issue with a character from noxus being heavily influenced by japanese culture. ionia is league's typical stand-in for most asian cultures, so having the geisha spider lady not be ionian could be a little weird for some people. you can easily rewrite her lore to have her be a noble from ionia that moved to noxus during the war or something, so this isn't honestly that huge of an issue - just something to keep in mind.
2. one part of elise's lore that i feel is really interesting but untouched in her current design is her status as a bit of a treasure hunter. part of her deal with the black rose is that, as she makes sacrifices to vilemaw to renew her beauty, she brings back magical artifacts from the shadow isles. although i'm lost on how to incorporate that into her visual design, i think having nods to that would be neat. maybe she has a magical mirror on her hip from the shadow isles that she kept for herself, and in her recall animation she could touch up her mask and outfit? just an idea.
overall, this video is SUPER good. i'd encourage you to explore more in this space. i would love if you took a look at redesigning kaisa, as she's personally the biggest letdown for me from the visual design standpoint in all of league.
thanks for the video! hope you're being safe during these troubling times.
Perhaps you could do Malphite next? He's quite a generic rock monster, and I'd love to see what you can do to him.
Edit: Or maybe Chogath. I know he's getting one, but your interpretation will probably be really cool.
wait chogat is gettin a redesign?
Leave my rocky boy alone
Malphite definitely needs some work. His new splash art is nice but in game he’s really stiff and unexciting. Look at his skins like Odyssey or Dark Star- there are ways to make him cool! Definitely on the list
I think a more 'exotic' body structure could be cool, like a quadruped or big ol' gorilla (that actually knuckle-walks).
Adam Wedderburn YES! I’ve said before he should be more gorilla like
I don't think her thumb is meant to bend that way. Amazing work on her look, who knows, maybe this will come as a new skin. Maybe they will add her in the Lunar Revel event next year.
I'd love to see your ideas on someone like Amumu, Cho'Gath, Trundle, Volibear.
I’ve been looking through the comments to make sure I wasn’t the only one who saw that
You should definitely do -Poison Ivy- Zyra next
PLEEEEEEEEEASE! I adore Zyra, but her blatant bootleg-Poison-Ivy design is so apparent that any time I think about her or play her in-game it's all I can think about.
@@neontenebrae1918 considering i love Poison Ivy, that's why I play Zyra :))
Tbh for me, the first thing you should see in Zyra are the plants and not the woman they took over. Your first impression should be plants taking over a lady not a lady who has plant powers.
@@mikhailthegreatestdragon3627 wow, this aged well :)))
Love the design but I really don’t think it fits with Noxia. She looks like she would come from Ionia.
Which imo is where she should be from anyways. Spiders and spider-like spirits are more prominent in Asian myth and folklore than western anyhow.
Sivir is one of those champion, I personally like to play her, but her design is like a random woman holding a huge boomerang.
And half of her skins splasharts look like an anime bikini warrior princess 👀
And qiyana is a 2.0 of sivir but with MaGiC element ( kinda like her design but look to basic and boring )
@@negatywnykraken8780 well, she is pretty outdated. And she's a bit shit in-game (and yeah, her design is so bland) I actually forgot she existed until I saw a video "How to counter every adc"
Pizza Delivery skinn is all you need.
@@itsallfunky4591 I have that skin!! It actually a really cool one. 🧡💛
the only thing that i dont like is the geisha's and japanese inspired theme. she was from noxus, dark place, weapons, warriors and generally evil. japanese art like style is more suitable to ionia...
the other things i loved well done
probably why elise's previous iteration, pricilla the geisha urgot, was scrapped to begin with.
And noxus is closer to lawful neutral. They're expansionist, but a lot more politically progressive....and a lot less bigoted than, say, demacia.
i quess you can retcon some ionion descent, and to be fair there's not too many European myths about the spider, at least as well known as jorogumo.
The "generally evil" look was mostly a part of old Noxus, I really like its new canonical culture.
Their army let whoever fights for them dress and gear up however they want, but this was put into effect after Swain took over and established the 3.
Therefore, if old noxus lore has remained canon, I will agree that Elise should be old enough to continue adopting more traditional Noxian aesthetics.
Then.. just state that her parents were ionian and imegrated to Noxus. Easy fix. Have a little imagination my guy.
I like the design overall but I feel this design would feel more at home in Inonia with the heavy Japanese inspiration.
So I think you should have done a more europian style to fit with the other Noxian characters.
Overall, loved the design and I would love to see a character the Japanese face paint(sry idk what it is officially called :\) with origins in Inonia
Thanks u
Thats exactly what I was thinking. I think for her base skin a good redesign would be maybe a liyyle more victorian or something similar. Then make this concept her blood moon. I absolutely love what he did with her but lore wise it doesnt really fot given that all of the asia themed characters come from Ionia
There is silent shadowseer from legends of runeterra. (I think it was her name not sure)
Noxus is full of various cultures, though. Unless you read the lore it's not apparent, because most of the Noxus champs we have were first designed back when Noxus was it's own, isolated region that was all about being evil and edgy and powerful. In the new lore, though, it's one of the most open-minded, accepting places in Runeterra. Demacia is now the close-minded power-hungry one. Although a lot of Noxians still kind of have a distrust of Ionians because of the war, their hatred is going away, and anyone from any culture can make it big in Noxus as long as they have a skill they're good at. It doesn't even have to be related to raw power. If you're talented at _anything,_ Noxus accepts you.
You mean like a geisha? It would be kinda cool, maybe with some storytelling based abilities or something
i hope you do more of these kinds of videos! it’s really entertaining!
The redesign of Elise is also interesting as it could add to the depth of Noxus lore as the League's culture melting pot(after many conquest) as Elise's redesign resembles more Ionian than Noxian. But it can put Elise as from a family of aristocratic descended from Ionia who helped to war against Ionia
I like this Idea a lot. Noxus has a lot going on culturally ( Look at Kled for Example). I think it does kind of compromise the Lore that is already in place however.
The Nomad Yeah, Noxus is a melting pot of cultures since they don’t try to stamp out local culture, and they even encourage it. That’s Noxians characters can look drastically different from each other depending on if they’re Noxus born or from one of their colonies.
I can't tell you how much I love the choice to segment the face and have it open up like the Reaper Vampires from Blade II. It's one of my favorite things to do with character designs.
If you do more of these episodes, I’d love to see karthus or nidalee redesigned. Nidalee’s design is interesting but kind of bland, much like elise in my opinion, and while karthus is pretty cool he feels like someone’s DnD character they put in league
Yeah Nidalee is really in the same boat as Elise for a lot of reasons- but she could be cool!
Fun fact nidalee has a different design in the lore! Sadly they never made any reference of it besides her one short story. Her redsign has her mostly clothed no boob window (from what I remember) shes a relatively buff women who cant fully speak (plays on the whole caveman idea but honestly I doubt most ionian animals would have different languages) its really sad to see the lore teams better design get hidden by a short story. I know they only rework champions when they arent played enough/ are very old but I really hope riot puts more focus on the lore designs of champions rather then fanservice
Subjectively Nidalee got a re-design in one of her most recent stories, it just wasn’t implemented into the game
But Karthus Pentakill should be untouched. Just saying, tha skin is way to cool man
Ye, I always forget Nidalee is a champ until I see her being played as a support in my bronze games
I absolutely adore this! I'd watch the hell out of this if you made it a series! You, my man, just earned a sub.
This might be a problem cuz she's not from Ionia, where they normally have Asian inspired design.
True but ya gotta remember that op said he just realize that there was more in this game lmao
noxus is known for having all types of cultures and people so it could work
Well, she could be changed into a Vastaya. Part animal, part person. In this case, a spider. Would make a hell of a lot better lore than, "She got bit by a magic spider and stabbed herself with a magic dagger". Vastayans are mainly from Ionia. And while Noxus isn't fully trusting of Ionians, it's not unheard of for them to enter Noxus if they have a skill they can show off. Maybe Elise, being an aristocrat, could represent a push from within Noxus to end racism towards Ionia. She could be sort of a rebel force, seducing then murdering Noxian nobles who want Ionians out of Noxus, to set an example. Would be a great way to drive Noxus' story forward.
@@adailtonneto1767 They dislike Vastayans very much so I don't think that's a good excuse.
@@bugjams and where would black rose be tied to that?
I'd love to see Rammus redesigned...he's my favorite chill turtle thing
Ok
@@onionninja8625 ok
You can't change perfection
As a leg man, I appreciate the effort. As an arachnophobe, I’m extremely confused. The design is so much more in depth now and it really baffles me how many spider themed characters go without silk involved in them. It’s pretty much why I think Black Widow is so bland compared to most other Marvel characters, and not just in the movies.
Is Black Widow even remotely spider themed? I’ve always been so disinterested in her that I’d never care to know
An awesome spider design is KI sadira still till this day my top 10 designs
Stuart Stone I mean, the name is just, well, a name. Her character isn’t actually thematically centered around spiders. Her design is bland, but then again, she began as a secret agent and not a public superhero.
empty Yeah but she doesn’t even dress like a regular woman to sell that lol
This is easily my favorite design you’ve done! I’d love to see more league characters getting redone like this
The only good sexy champion is evelynn , she a good character design to me 8/10 , and i hope you make a re-design champ vid for qiyana
ngân nguyễn Qiyana is a walking disappointment especially with all of the cool concept art of her plus now seeing all of the newest art work for Ixtal makes her even more underwhelming
I’m gay for Fictional characters yeah i just see the new comic and art , her dress is ...... normal but like really normal , and her other sisters look cooler than her , sad tho - i like her skill and her bitch talk but she look sooooooooo basic and it boring AF
Evelynn is a good champion design as she is a demon that uses lust to dish out pain so here design is going to be thicc thighs and big tiddies
ngân nguyễn i like how you just casually said “iam gay for fictional characters”
Evelynn is a great design for a succubus demon
I really like the mask and geisha elements on Elise, the feature that her mask would crack and expose a spider maw, would work so well for when she casts her Neurotoxin, I also think she could hide her extra limbs in the lore with ribbons, since those extra limbs are close to the back/waist and arms, ribbons on those areas wouldn't look unnatural!. And in-game, her extra limbs could be constantly knitting, so they are not just flapping around as she walks, and it would make sense for her to be playing around with the material that makes her webs (And her E wouldn't just look like it spawns out of nowhere)
Wonderful! I would really like to see this become a series!
I think this looks absolutely fantastic and I really prefer this to the original design. The only possible problem is that riot has said before in the past that they have to greatly exaggerated features for them to be noticable at all because of how zoomed out the camera is and how small the characters are. Because of that it could be impossible to see Elise's mask or the face opening up in game, especially if she is moving around a lot. Other than that, I love this a lot. Maybe you could do Olaf next? He seems very generic right now but could be very cool. He could have a God of War vibe to him
Imo I like the design you did of Elise
But the painting that Claire did didn’t really sell it for me
But otherwise I think the design looks awesome and that Claire did an awesome job painting the new Elise
I think the only thing off with the painting is the posing, everything else looks great
We not going to talk about the fact that her thumb is broken to have the fingernail visible from that pose/perspective?
Because that thumb is definitely broken.
The thought put behind this redesign is really amazing, love the final result!
This looks a lot like her original design way back when the game was still in its early stages. Her name back then was Priscila and she looked like a japanese Urgot
Was just about to post saying I was surprised he didn't mention Priscila and still came out with an Asian-inspired look.
Priscilla’s design was rococo inspired, not Japanese.
or urgot is a western priscilla?
Mailark Rococo themes in the dress and makeup would be extremely cool as a different skin. She could even those silly shoe pom pom things some Marie Antoinet inspired characters have. Coupled with the Big Leg energy and fishnets she’d be funny as well as sexy/badass
As a Elise main I am in love with your ideas of redesing! But as some ppl already mentioned - puting some Noxian vibes into outfit would make it look even more creative and character-fitting
Your new look is great, but I don't really like how her mask is so expressionless, it would be really nice if she had some kind of fake smile.
Her expressionless in my opinion makes her look more boring and stale.
The whole design is great, but this stale expressionless face, makes her look really uninteresting in my opinion.
yeah it would play into the uncanny valley aspect more since the human psychology hates constantly smiling things. (like villager in smash bros.)
That face design at 8:50 was genuinely terrifying for me. The fact it looked like a giant spider but was trying to lure you in specifically sparked that caveman fear of predators.
Finally, someone else who’s tired of the generic sexy-scary lady look! It’s just so boring when everyone has small features, small kinda shiny skin, and skinny-curvy bodies
I found this really interesting as I've never played LOL. I now want to learn about the characters, the lore, and eventually play it!
Please continue this as a series!
The only problemas is that any "eastern" aestetic inmediately tie back to jonia, and elise is parte of the noxus region
Awesome. I would definitely watch more of these. You did an amazing job. It’s so unique and interesting.
I would love to see more of these, the character design process is fascinating to me
Words cannot express how much I love this redesign 💕 please make this a thing - I would love to see more thoughtful and layered designs!
I am loving this channel so much recently, thanks so much for providing quality content I can enjoy during this time
a video redesigning a sexy character that isnt just "its sexy, so its bad!"
subjectively has never not been great
I like this design but by trying to take out the black and red aspects of it it turned away from Noxus and doesn't look like that's where she's from looks a lot more Ionian
This is by far my favorite of your LOL redesigns by far!!! You did an amazing job!!!
Other champ that might be interesting to redesign is probably Zilean, Zyra, Nidalee, Karthus, Kogmaw, Chogath and Kassadin.
Can't wait to see your version of these
Zyra is an interesting one for me to be honest. The first thing I have noticed on her splash art is the woman and not the plant. Zyra's main focus is that she should be a plant controlling a woman, not the other way around.
Okay, I love these League of Legends videos. It’s always so interesting to hear your design opinions on such a huge game!
I don't play league or know anything about it, but a series of these would be so fun to watch
I would love to see you change up singed, I think his design is really bland compared to other champions and would love to see it updated!
I would love to see this as a series and would like to recommend Jax as your next one. As for this, I think its excellent. Only thing I could say is you could have pushed the colors further and even went with a lighter scheme bordering on pastels to show more of those uniquely creepy spiders found in more exotic places.
Very cool idea! Issue with it however is that Elise is from Noxus, not Ionia. Meaning this more oriental design makes no sense for a more medieval themed character
I’m not opposed to more animal crossing content. I’d like to see more turning other games characters into animal crossing villagers! What about Minecraft Mobs as villagers?
Am I the only one who thought that the title implied that Elise had boring skills?
Would absolutely love this to be a series.
Would also love to see a potentially redesigned Malphite or Mundo. I really enjoy the idea of expanding on characters who don't do much with a certain trope.
Also am I the only one who thinks the plethora of legs on Elise's in game human model look awkward?
I love this design however I wish she was based off Arachnae from Greek mythology. We see asain inspired spider ladies all the time. I'd have liked the drapery around a toga. But other than my opinions this is a BEAUTIFUL design!
you could always give a try with Udyr, the guy needs a rework. also, what about the armor set design video?
Oh now that is a HECKING awesome character concept for your redesign! That "living mask".
Great video! Great reimagination of Elise! It looks really good! I just had one problem with the design; she doesn't look like a Noxian, but I could absolutely see her as an Ionian with this design!
While her face looks a bit too inhuman to convince anyone to follow her to the shadow isles, this design is really great, pretty much everything about it
try doing cho'gath, he was in riots mind for a while but never got a full visual update, just vfx updates. Would love to see your rendition on this champion !
I really like her idea of being an aristocratic noxian adopting Ionian culture, seeing as how Ionians value balance, Elise could have a twisted form of balance in terms of death(those she seduces) for life/renewal(her beauty and vitality). Elise’s character plays well into the Black Rose faction as their most notable and key aspect being deception, that being said, Elise’s design and motif should share semblance to Elizabeth Bathory or Delphine Lalaurie, two women in power who had an insatiable hunger for personal gain, Bathory most notably murdering for beauty.
5:20 not really blood, she’s killing to make sacrifices to keep staying young so it’s more like beauty
This should be in the game because this is actually better than the original and I think it is amazing. Thank you can Claire for doing this and I'm a big fan of Elise and this design you made makes her even better.
Considering how well the rest of the drawing was done, I'm surprised how the artist drew Elise's thumb broken and facing the wrong way lol. They were even copying a reference! The thumb nail is in the wrong place and making it look so off. If the nail was in the right position, the rest of the thumb wouldn't look so off.
But seriously, other than that, looks great. Currently, better than I could paint any day.
Kalina Zawada I was looking to see who noticed that lol
I am not gonna lie, I think the splash art was really bad. The concept had Elise with big legs and long arms, while the splash had muscular short arm. The perspective didn't help, the pose was awfull and the light was inconsistent, anatomy was all over the place, even without taking the broken finger into account. Overall the design just felt like a bad version of the Blood Moon skin. Still I think the tought process was really good just the execution was subpar.
yesssss please do this, one of my fave champs id love to redesign one day is Vladimir, he's too close to "typical mysterious vampire" instead of his wanted design; ancient mysterious haemomancer that has darkin influence
*not interested in reading their lore* read rammus' lore. you'll understand why the lore team is awesome
@@kainhernandez4849 lol
Istg if this becomes a series it’s gonna be my favourite league content in general on youtube keep up the good work dude!
If there's one league character whose design disappointed me extremely, it'd be Kai'sa. I feel that her design doesn't capture her lore at all, she doesn't look like someone who's lived in the void her whole life only being able to survive because of a symbiote. I'd love to see you do Kai'sa next
As much as I love this design, the Geisha aesthetic doesn't fit because neither Noxus or the Shadow Isles supports this appearence.+
Fiddlesticks new design is amazing and one of my favorites in League but I would like to see your interpretation of him and how you convey fear.
That bright green on her face and spider though, doesn't really show how sinister she actually is, I think darker colors work better on her
Though I like the redesign, I honestly think she is fine the way she is. Everything about her current aesthetic interests me. But that's obviously because of my own preferences. I get adding more color in an attempt to change things up a bit. But there is a reason why that dark style is used so much. It works really well. But I understand that lots of others want something new and different. For me personally though her current design is great. However I wouldn't mind some new splash art (with the same aesthetic) for her lol.
I second it my main issue with this is that he said he wanted something design that doesn't look like any of the other champions, but there are a number of champions that wear Asian influenced outfits and the silhouette he ended up with is largely the same elise's legs and arms make up a large part of her in-game model even the splash for it has the camera center on her legs crossing. most of his changes wouldn't reflect much of a difference in game because a lot of the face markings and whatnot wouldn't read near as well as they would in a painting or comic.
also, elise's design is heavily influenced by both the spider motif and also queen of pain from the original dota and i rather like the call back to the games roots.
well, different opinion.. i always loved this kind of character design, dark, brooding, etc.. but i have to agree, the "spider queen" is a bit overused..
Seeing the redesign, i fell in love with it.. that mysterious geisha look is really great.. but the thing is, wasnt it kinda off from the theme on her backstory? a mansion, into a geisha..
imo, i would have used a more dark medieval looks.. but that spider geisha thing looks great.. it kinda reminds me of Black Maria from One Piece tho..
15:36 is it just me or the thumb seems a bit "weird". Cool design, don't get me wrong 😅😅 I love this new interpretation and hope to see more in the future😊💙💙
Nicole Patrizio
aw dude that was bugging the hell out of me too!! i was hoping she would notice that,,
@@camdom_draws I was worried to say that, because the piece in general is cool😅😅, but....tha thumb eeeeeehk😓
Nicole Patrizio yeah 😅 ha ha I 😅 have too😅 place an 😅 emoji 😅 at 😅 least 😅 twenty😅 times😅
You should totally do more of these! This was really cool!!!
omg Jack, that's amazing! i also had a problem with Elise's design, and you did an amazing job making her more interesting, i love the new face and gueixa look. Riot seems to usually keep the asian looks for skins, which is a shame, and It would be good to more of it in the base skins. Anyway, great job, looking forward for more of this format.
Riot is probably going for a more western look for demacia and noxus and a more eastern look for Ionia
Well thought-out and beautifully creative!
Right off the bat, I have to say, I love how you redesigned Elise. I love the incorporation of geisha into her appearance. To be perfectly honest, even though I don’t play LOL, (I tried, but the tutorial is pretty bad) I really enjoy the games lore. From the stories of the individual champions, to the AUs based on the different character skins, I find the lore quite fascinating. Also, if possible, it would be really cool if you could collab with T B Skyen in another LOL video in the future.
Yes please make more of this. This video was the first one I saw from you and it got me to instantly subscribe to your channel.
That intro confused me SO much I was sat here thinking I was gonna be watching a T B Skyen video and suddenly its Subjectively and Animal Crossing
My only thoughts on this piece is that, I feel like one thing that is missing is the sense of her being a seductress. If I were to change the piece I would have her “mask” as her beautiful face. And the ideal splash art would be of her in an extravagant room, in front of a large full body mirror admiring herself face, elegantly, while half of it is split open to show her deadly spider side. And then in the background is a guy in a cocoon with her spiderlings surrounding him. I believe this to be a good design choice since it shows of her deceptive side, her vanity, extravagance, as well as throwing in a call to two of her abilities.
Your design looks pretty good and all, but unfortunately it wouldn't work in-game, this is something that a lot of artists forget when re-designing league characters.
When you play, you look at the game from far away and you can't tell details. So even though I love what you did to Elise's face, there's too much detail and not only it wouldn't be visible but it could get in the way since it's information that you don't need when you play, and in a game where you need to make decisions in less than a second, any useless information can't be in the game.
fan fact the first riot design for elise was japanese geisha when it was stil beta but she was never released like that!
What would be more interesting is going all out with the Oiran look (Japanese high-ranking courtesan), with the historical fashion references. especially with regards how hideously expensive silk brocade has always been. As Elise is able to produce her own silk, it wouldn't be a far stretch for her to be garbed in silks she produced herself.
However when you take in account that during the Edo era girls groomed to be yuujo (Japanese transliteralion of pleasure girls) were confined to the Yoshiwara district, it fits that Elise would be a deadly seductress who kills men during or after sex as a way to cope with the circumstances and trauma of being a sexual slave. And the abandoned building that is her lair? Her *former* *brothel* .
I love what you and claire did to elise! i love the geisha look and i love the mask hiding the horror underneath. a good character i'd like to see you redesign is Shyvana, as much as i like her and that i know she'll someday get a rework she doesn't really feel like a half-dragon warrior in my opinion, more like a somewhat scaled purple lady.
I actually like the original Elise's design more than yours, just my opinion. I think you kinda missed the whole point of her original design when you ”fix” it. Her original design makes her looks like a spider even in her human form with the black and red colour scheme without having to look too demonic (she's supposed to look more like a human to her followers so that she can lure them into the spider lair). Your design of her just have too many bright color (which makes her looks more like a caterpillar to me). Besides, with that design she looks like she comes from Ionia, a whole different region in the game. Better make more careful research before redesigning a character. P/s: I think ”redesigned” is a better term than ”fixing”. It's disrespect to the original artist.
Agreed. Champions like Karma and Yasuo are from Ionia and, therefore, have a more Asian style and design. As soon as he said he tried making her look like a geisha, he lost me. She is a Noxian champion and their style is a more vintage European style with evil and dark elements added onto it.
Furthermore, he's trying to make her look too spider-oriented which not only goes against her lore, but doesn't allow her to look like a seductive woman enough. She is literally a sexy spider queen who is half human/half spider, just like how the lore suggests she is and how her design is meant to be. It doesn't matter if he finds that trope boring. Clearly, the team who designed her were inspired by that trope.
Not only its a severe deviation based on the region this visual redesign is intended to communicate, but also her background themes: Not only is she one of the few designs intended to be visually sexualized, such as Ahri and Evelynn, as a means to turn seduction as a tool to lure her prey, but also the religious iconography of her as a cultist leader, which she kind of does by her current arachnid attires as the "Spider Queen", as in the handmaiden of her god.
Having your own ideas is disrespectful to the artist?
Now i've heard it all
It's so beautiful. (subjectively) magnificent. love the design. I'd love to see more redesigns. keep it up.
First I'd like to say that I'd love to see a series of these videos, I don't think there's anybody else out there doing this and I love to see champs in a different light.
But I don't think you properly nailed this design in terms of a LoL character.
Don't get me wrong, the design is great and is certainly an improvement to the current Elise, but this design fits even worse with current lore than the base version of Elise.
This kind of look reminds me more of an old Ionian webweaver that somehow got corrupted into being an actual spider.
Pulling ideas from real life cultures is a great base, but you need to realize that there's a bunch of lore revolving around Runeterra and it's culture-rich regions.
I'd say that the whole mask idea is fine and the additional limbs sells her concept much more, but the clothing style you chose for this artwork is just not fitting for a Rich Noxian lady.
Besides, if I look at this artwork's face, I think of Syndra because of the intense glow in her eyes.
For who I'd like to see remade by you would be Malzahar.
Since Malzahar has some strange void powers that he uses to controle voidborne creatures, I feel like he currently looks too much like a Shuriman mercenary, rather than a void-corrupted warlock.
It also doesn't make a lot of sense that he still manages to look like this, while Kassadin looks like a messed up space diver. Though Kassadin could use a visual update as wel.
Seeing Malzahar would be cool, although based on this redesign I assume
Subjectively is new to the league lore. And based on this I wouldn't say that Malzahar would be a good second person to do just based on the fact about how fractured the Void lore is. And how none of the Voidborn designs are canon.
beautiful interpretation! I look forward to more designs in the future!
Dude, this is amazing, I think that some champs don’t look their part, especially the girls, thin waist, big hips, huge boobs, it gets really boring. I think that this went for Elise. But you made her look so cultured, and u strayed away from the cliche spider queen transformation. I think you really hit a home run on this!
(P.S can u plz do Qiyana next...)
Qiyanas an Odd ball and tbh shes designed so you dont like her
Problem:
The Japanese design
(Asian wear is in Ionia and she's from Noxus)
The fact that the splash art doesn't look seducing at all (he said legs were also a good seducing tool and the splash art didn't even show it)
The fact that he made her flat. Sure he could have made Miss Fortune or Nidalee flat but not Elise. That is a big part of her character.
The whole mask thing. He said it's supposed to hide something but nothing was really hidden, she still looked creepy and emotionless and still showing that she is a spider.
The four arms don't feel right.
This are my problems with the design he made. Which means, it's my opinion. I know you didn't ask at all for this just wanted to express my opinion without attracting a lot of attention. Comments tend to get more attention than replies.
This just makes it feel like it would've been better if her origins are ionian
LeBlanc is literally just a 'lady with a staff' according to Riot.
Would love to see another interpretation of 'The Deceiver'.
This was a fun watch!
I agree with other commenters that you ignored Elise's roots in Noxus in favor of a Japanese inspired (basically Ionian) aesthetic. I feel there's a way to add dimension to Elise while exploring her membership in the Black Rose (which includes LeBlanc, Vladamir, etc.). Her black and red coloring indicate her Noxian heritage (shared with Swain, Katarina, Darius, etc.); but a new design could pull on her ties to the Shadow Isles. Maybe the spider limbs, etc. in her human form are ethereal and ghost-like. I would lean in heavily into the medieval and gothic elements of Noxus for the core design. You bring up novel ideas of seduction, example luxury. Maybe to connote the luxury she'd be wearing gold, ruby jewelry, red satin finery. Elise is proud to have worked her way up in her society, and geisha were not nobility but entertainers.
Your design is way less human, which makes sense since that's what you prefer in general. But, that seems utterly contrary to Elise's lore. You explained how the combination of poisons and magic returned her beauty and youth, but you give her a horrifying visage. I don't see her luring in any unsuspecting prey. I think making the mandibles, extra arms, and spider legs ghostly (and only visible in the dark?), would be a clever way to embrace your monstrous design while allowing Elise's illusion of conventional beauty while in 'human' form.
I hope I wasn't too critical . As artists, the two of your are fantastic. Your final design looks 'cooler' and more unique. Mission accomplished? I do you the design let go of everything that makes Elise, Elise. I look forward to seeing how you approach other League Champions (Dr. Mundo, Jax, Shyvana, etc.)
I was focusing on tiddy so much i couldnt think of a proper design in my head, but as soon as i saw you colouring the redesign sketch / concept,
i instantly fell much more in love with this version of her! great job with the redesign, **he geisha* part was super smart/genius!...
so if i were to see her on a roster on a game i played? i DEFINITELY play/main her now, haha. ❤
EDIT: still gushing over how beautiful the colours are AHH!!..
id love if you made this a series, so many champs in league could use the love!
Your version looks great on its own but sadly nothing about it speaks Elise to me. It may be because of the heavy Japanese/Ionian inspiration. Also, I don't like the idea of her face being a mask when she is very obsessed with beauty, covering here face doesn't make sense. I will admit that your version looks more inhuman and scary tho
this is very well thought out, and all the art looks amazing! I'm never disappointed by you guys c:
I WANNA SEE MORE YES YES
THIS DESIGN ITS SIMPLE DIVINE
U w U
In new's make nami
Zoe our Veigar
What exactly is wrong with Zoe in your opinion? I think her design perfectly reflects her lore, whiile teasing at some connection to Fiddlesticks (Tha key). Veigar's design could use an update, but not a complete rework, I honestly thhink he's fine as is. And what's wrong with Nami's design? I really don't see a problem with her.
@@kaytosh5735 I like her desaine
I just imagine how he will play if she redraw her
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Shes aready good
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This is a really intriguing and well thought out redesign. She definitely has a more Ionian inspiration in the iteration. I wonder how her story would change if her lore came from Ionia instead