to have less drag on pro4/rs4 is easy to remedy as they use torsion springs to engage the pawls simply bend them. its why i got RS4 less pawls less drag . i think its the beauty of hope design. its fully adjustable. if i want loader hubs i use a double spring on each pawl. if i want less noise i simply use 1 spring bend to adjust
Awesome hub. Just put a pair on my V10. With my Tech 4s & Hope ventilated 203 rotors. But disappointed in the lack of sound. Can hopefully modify ??? Got my mate at bike shop to clean some of the grease out & bend the springs. Not much difference. Not happy.
im still using RS4 hubs on a 20five rim in me hybrid. 3 years now ive tortured the rims and there still dead straight not 1 lose spoke unreal. question will the hope 5 freehub FIT PRO4/RS4 HUBS. SUBBED
Good Day. What spoke length/nipples did you use for the Hope pro 5/DT Swiss EX511 build. Thank You! Cant seem to find proper hub spec dimensions anywhere.
For our custom wheel builds we do the manual calculations in house, and cut the spokes accordingly. I'm not 100% sure what the exact lengths were. I'm pretty sure it was DSF: 293mm NDSF: 291mm DSR: 290mm NDSR: 292mm. Double check those measurements before you go buying tons of spokes, but I'm 99% sure those are the lengths mine are (due to the spares I have)
@@SingleTrackSurgeonThose measurements seem accurate and perfect for the EX511 ERD of 601. I plan to build with Spank 395 rims and guesstimate my ERD ++ (591+8=599). So I ordered 291's for everything. LOL. If it is too long, do you think Sapim nipples washers might be a good idea? I read someone added +4 only for his ERD++. Not really sure how to do this right. Thanks for the info!
Oh and the hubs specs were in the Hope website I just didnt find it at first. I really want to make this the perfect build and last a lifetime. Spank 350/359 comes with Mg? washers but the 395+ doesnt come with any. I would have to ask spank too if it would affect warranty. Sapim website have 4 different types of nipple washer. Oval,HM,MS? and MG and flat/round? They even have spoke washer but for steel flange hubs which might not be for mtb? another option they say is the Double square nipples which have longer threads or the Dt Swiss squorx. I've been reading a lot about how others build their wheelsets and washers like the DT Swiss PHR for durability makes sense. Cheers and happy riding!
If it is the same as the Pro4, that would just require a standard XD boost hub with QR caps to convert it. All supplied by Hope. This is common with many Trek frames.
lol i dont get the comment. actually the music does not over power whats been said that's most important. the dim music gives a comfortably feel as we watch and listen to the upload. love it as the music is dimmed and not over powering. i think your been very picky. but each to his own opinions.
Just bought the pro 5 and it does not sound like the pro 4. So I switched back to the pro 4 as its loud buzzing clicking sound is awesome while on the pro 5 it is timid and not as effective in announcing your arrival if you're going fast on a busy trail. I have used the pro 4 for many years and it's totally a Made In The UK masterpiece.
Appreciate the hub intro but Hope has no North American customer support. Having to deal with the Brits directly in UK is not the same level of service as I get from the Americans.
We have had some issue at the shop getting customer service issues handled in the past. But this is a fantastic reason to go to a LBS. We can go to bat for you and get issues fixed when people who buy from online retailers can't get an email back.
Glad to hear these are quieter. One of the reasons I'll purchase. And it is one of the reasons for low drag.
I've always said, less noise, less drag... for 99% of cases.
to have less drag on pro4/rs4 is easy to remedy as they use torsion springs to engage the pawls simply bend them. its why i got RS4 less pawls less drag . i think its the beauty of hope design. its fully adjustable. if i want loader hubs i use a double spring on each pawl. if i want less noise i simply use 1 spring bend to adjust
That is certainly an option we have used before, but with the testing so far the Pro5 seems to have significantly less drag even with more engagement.
Looks sick brother can’t wait to see the new wheels
They are nice and clean. Nox hoops FTW!
Awesome hub. Just put a pair on my V10. With my Tech 4s & Hope ventilated 203 rotors. But disappointed in the lack of sound. Can hopefully modify ??? Got my mate at bike shop to clean some of the grease out & bend the springs. Not much difference. Not happy.
If you want them loud, these are probably not the hubs for you. I really like them quiet.
Cool. Be nice if they followed up the launch with some availability.
They definitely sold like hot cakes.
im still using RS4 hubs on a 20five rim in me hybrid. 3 years now ive tortured the rims and there still dead straight not 1 lose spoke unreal. question will the hope 5 freehub FIT PRO4/RS4 HUBS. SUBBED
I think because of the size, and the housing it is completely different. However, we haven't tried that yet.
found the outer freehub bearing on the microspline hubs wore fast on my pro 4s, hopefully fixed that in the pro 5
I'm guessing that's another reason for that step up axle 👍🏼
Hello, Do you know if the free body of the hope pro 4 is compatible with the hope pro 5?
That would be something to talk to Joseph about at Ridgeline Bike Service
How wide are the hub flanges compared with ONYX that seem to be wider than other brands. Are the wider compared to the Pro 4 model?
Good Day. What spoke length/nipples did you use for the Hope pro 5/DT Swiss EX511 build. Thank You! Cant seem to find proper hub spec dimensions anywhere.
For our custom wheel builds we do the manual calculations in house, and cut the spokes accordingly. I'm not 100% sure what the exact lengths were. I'm pretty sure it was DSF: 293mm NDSF: 291mm DSR: 290mm NDSR: 292mm.
Double check those measurements before you go buying tons of spokes, but I'm 99% sure those are the lengths mine are (due to the spares I have)
@@SingleTrackSurgeonThose measurements seem accurate and perfect for the EX511 ERD of 601. I plan to build with Spank 395 rims and guesstimate my ERD ++ (591+8=599). So I ordered 291's for everything. LOL. If it is too long, do you think Sapim nipples washers might be a good idea?
I read someone added +4 only for his ERD++. Not really sure how to do this right. Thanks for the info!
Oh and the hubs specs were in the Hope website I just didnt find it at first.
I really want to make this the perfect build and last a lifetime. Spank 350/359 comes with Mg? washers but the 395+ doesnt come with any. I would have to ask spank too if it would affect warranty.
Sapim website have 4 different types of nipple washer. Oval,HM,MS? and MG and flat/round? They even have spoke washer but for steel flange hubs which might not be for mtb? another option they say is the Double square nipples which have longer threads or the Dt Swiss squorx. I've been reading a lot about how others build their wheelsets and washers like the DT Swiss PHR for durability makes sense.
Cheers and happy riding!
Old pro4 was 48poe the trials hub was 76 I think
„Boost” 141 qr with XD drive?
If it is the same as the Pro4, that would just require a standard XD boost hub with QR caps to convert it. All supplied by Hope. This is common with many Trek frames.
Great video. Music was a bit confusing.
Sorry to hear that, glad you enjoyed the video.
lol i dont get the comment. actually the music does not over power whats been said that's most important. the dim music gives a comfortably feel as we watch and listen to the upload. love it as the music is dimmed and not over powering. i think your been very picky. but each to his own opinions.
I’ll take a set of blue straight axle 6 bolt non boost thru axle xdr please. Yes, i said xdr not xd, bee-aches!
Very specific... :D
Just bought the pro 5 and it does not sound like the pro 4. So I switched back to the pro 4 as its loud buzzing clicking sound is awesome while on the pro 5 it is timid and not as effective in announcing your arrival if you're going fast on a busy trail. I have used the pro 4 for many years and it's totally a Made In The UK masterpiece.
Personally, I much prefer the more refined sound of the pro 5. The hubs on my personal bikes are Onyx, so you can see which direction I swing. :D
Hope 4 Pro hubs still sounds better than Hope 5 hubs.
If you like the loud buzz, this would be true.
Appreciate the hub intro but Hope has no North American customer support. Having to deal with the Brits directly in UK is not the same level of service as I get from the Americans.
We have had some issue at the shop getting customer service issues handled in the past. But this is a fantastic reason to go to a LBS. We can go to bat for you and get issues fixed when people who buy from online retailers can't get an email back.
@@SingleTrackSurgeon Glad to know. Thanks in advance.
I just ebay parts and tools