I've never been on a sailboat of any kind. I've been on motor yachts. And I don't know a damn time about sailing. I have picked up a lot of the lingo, parts of the boat along with rigging. But mostly I love looking at floorplans. It started with houses & mobile homes. Then RV's, & motor yachts. I then found Jordan & Randi's channel. I saw my 1st sailboat floorplan. Thought it was so cool with the design. Andddd... I've been hooked watching y'all's channel ever since. Just love it! And to make this even more trippy. I'm not an Architect. I'm a truck driver that's been fighting for disability for many years. My med card was snatched after finding out I have lupus. And the real nail on the coffin was heart attacks 3 & 4. I had 1& 2 at 36yrs old. 3& 4 @ 45. I'm 46 now & still being refused disability. Go figure.
As a dad of a 24 and 21 year old...dude, never worry about Morgan being talkative. :-) Those sounds are pure joy. Thanks for sharing a look at at an amazing cat. Honestly - until this video not one I would have considered but now...maybe? Be well.
You all make a great trio...always helps to have both your perspectives on any boat, and Morgan's additional comments are terminally cute! This is an incredible cat!
The very first thing that I like about your channel is "YOU TWO GUYS".. You complement each other's views of a boat so well... Two soft kind of guys enjoying life at it's own pace! Next thing is your analysis of the boat.. You see things from all the perspectives.. Next is covering important things and explaining why you feel it is important.. In total, you score 10/10 and I love watching your channel.. Stay good, stay safe and stay blessed.. Loads of love from India..
Out of my price range but a beautiful catamaran. Thanks for this tour of a dream boat. I feel for you guys, cause you really won’t have an easy time sailing till the little one is probably 8 years old. Gives you guys time to put money away and save for your dream. Key is to keep your health in the meantime and don’t stop dreaming. By touring all these boats, you’ll be far ahead of anyone else searching for a good priced boat.
Great boat. The raised cockpit, with storage under, and helm set up reminds me of the old Lagoon 67. The retractable rudders are awesome. A 50 plus foot boat floating in less than 2 feet of water opens up so many more anchorages. In addition, the fact the rudders are hung externally is a fantastic safety feature.
the helm stations are so much part of social life on the aft deck - all too often, they are raised (Outremer, Balance, HH...), but here, they're practically on the same level as the aft deck, making them part of social life on the aft deck, and the seats look super comfy.
Nice cat. What I look for first is: Draft, sail plan, engines, electronics, head waste handling, bridge deck clearance, watermaker, AC, gen set, and tank capacities. I figure the rest is eye candy, and will be there.
I really appreciate your videos. They are in my humble opinion one of the best Sailboat tour youtube channel out there. They are also about "real boats", meaning they are more tangible more affordable for everyday people... not like the superyatch tours and such. Either way, keep up the good work, i always appreciate it.
Mainsheet bridle and performance catamaran are mutually exclusive, I know some ppl love these boats, but I meet a lot of boat owners that don’t seem to know much about boats so I’m not sure that says much. Points for the listing rudders but that mainsheet system is a dealbreaker
As much as I've tried, I just can't find the Seawind love! At $900K base you are really looking at $1.1mil for a sail ready production cat. This puts it in the same ballpark as a Balance 482 or you can sail away in a Knysna 500 SE for less. Both of which, are far superior semi-custom builds IMO.
Randi, its good to see you back in the videos more. Both perspectives make the reviews far more in depth, and your smile is far prettier than your husband's :)
It’s perfect. Modern but not cold. Well build and organize inside and outside. Good colour’’s choices. The next one to me.. if I became millionaire!!!😃👋🇨🇭
Had a catamaran with engines in a similar position outside and above the transom steps. In the tropics it means working exposed to the sun and rain, often upside down. Believe me this has its drawbacks
They did a great job with the deck and cot-pit. So glad not to see a crazy fly bridge or the helm station with all the lines lead to it . As if the helmsperson does not have enough to do or the space to handle all the lines. (This is not a crewed charter boat, you are supposed to all be involved!) Should be a very Sail-able boat! Just try not to fill all that ‘wonderful storage’ up with do much weight to take the fun out of the sailing ! Cheers Warren
Hey Jordan & Randi, nice review! Love the galley too. Watching this review, I kept comparing the 1600 to the Outremer 51 (of course) and was wondering, does this boat have a single-line or double-line reefing system? BTW, how old is Morgan now? She's almost speaking English. Better start teaching her a second language, she's going to be a linguist.
First off, Morgan is growing up so fast and is absolutely precious! This Cat was indeed a wonder of modern construction with speed, comfort and livability! At every turn you can see how much time & effort went into its design. Loved that Galley too Randi! You must be getting ready to go back to school/work soon. Who will be taking care of Morgan?
A good review, but you didn't mention the great ventilation from all the opening windows, particularly the large ones and build quality. It's my dream boat as well so it's a race to Seawind to see if they want to give one away! André in Sydney.
Nice, I like the low boom, far to many catamarans with the sails so high , and above a fly bridge. One for people that sail and not motor everywhere. 👍 Your bambino getting bigger by the day . 👍
Those cabin windows look HOT in the tropics. And contrary to intuition, slanted windows don't really help with aerodynamics. Aerodynamic shapes are basically flat in the front with a teardrop slope in the back. Nobody is really putting aero fairings on the back of a cockpit (or side/back depending on wind angle), so practically speaking air drag is a simple matter of the surface area you can see straight on from the wind angle. Slants and swoops may offer other purposes just not so much reduced drag.
They would off less resistance at low wind speed (2-4knots), and besides, with their angle you can see the sails from the nav station...And if you take a GREEN WAVE over the bows these windows offer less resistance...a flat window might more easily be 'punched' out by a big wave!
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I also like the general design of the boat but I'm not a fan of the swept back windows which can let more light into the cabin and make it hotter than a boat with more vertical windows, and some of those have overhangs to provide even more shade. I like the use of regular solar panels rather than the flexible type glued to the surface. They are far easier to repair or replace, stay cooler, and generally perform better. The only thing I would add, and I haven't researched this yet, is a solar water heater. Also revising the hatch to the engines to open the other way is safer.
Very nice boat. I mainly like mono hulls but after seeing that Cat I may be changing my mind. Now how do they pull a cat out of the water for dry dock, they can not use a travel lift. Do they use a trailer big enough for that boat? Love your videos.
I felt like the salon could have been a bit deeper (more space bow to stern), particularly for the LOA of the boat, but other than that, really great cat!
The problem with performance cats is you end up with narrow hulls compared to non-performance. This is a 50'+ cat yet the forward berth is really a single. Still if it works for you, happy travels :) Thanks for the review.
You are correct. If you care more about maximizing interior volume a performance cat is not for you. Personally, I care more about maximizing performance so I would go even narrower on the hulls if I could. 😁
Look guys, all you have to do is get 3-4 million subscribers and maybe you could get one. Ha ha. Agree, very nice vessel, although I do not like saildrives. Otherwise love it. And I thought is was cute when you said “ it’s holding up well “ and it’s one year old. I have had boats over 50 yrs old holding up very well. My Cal 2-46 comes to mind. If you ever get a chance to view a NICE Cal 2-46 galley up, you would be amazed. And yes they sail well! Many have circumnavigated and I have crossed oceans on mine. Sometimes averaging near 200 mile days.
this might sound small, but it's not. the down facing, water facing windows are portless and small it looks like.. when the waves start pounding a vessel that's a refreshing sight to see instead of a hatch that leaks. Is that cock pit encloseable? I would think it is, as long as you can get those helms protected I'm sold.
Great boat, but would love to see someone change the sheets on these beds when no walk around, thinking would be quite difficult, especially for a fatty.
Boats, unfortunately are an exercise in compromise. This compromises comfort for boat speed and performance. If you want a comfortable catamaran, then you wold look to a larger 'hulled' catamaran like the Lagoon's, Sun Reef's, Xsquiste, Majaestic's or St. Francis's. You'll notice from the specs that this weights in at ~14K kgs, where as the more spacious models often top 20K kgs, this displacement costs in boat speed. So instead of traveling the ocean and having to do a 10 day passage, you can do it in 5. It makes for a big difference in sailing comfort.
Thanks for the great tour. I would love to have a fantastic boat like this, but I can´t help to think it is a little below the standard set by the other Seawinds considering its size and price? The helm positions are less protected, the saloon is a step down and there is not the same integration with the outside. Maybe Seawind will consider an update after the 1370 deliveries start.
Nice boat. I would prefer a more protected engine access ideally from the inside, but at least with the hatches opening the other way. I am thinking about increment weather and an emergency...
Seawind has a video out of the changes they've made to the 1600. They are calling it the 1600 Passagemaker. You might want to check it out. They added some length and width to make it able to handle more weight. This is one of my favorite cats along with the Vision 444 which you toured a while back. I know it's comparing apples to oranges, but from the standpoint of a livaboard couple, which did you like better?
From what we've seen, the Seawind 1600 is our personal favorite production cat for a liveaboard couple or small family. The passagemaker looks great as well. I don't think you could get a better boat without going full custom.
I have a non-sailor question. You guys always talk about preferring the forward facing nav station. I always figured this was just a place to review charts and electronics of the boat, since it doesn’t have a wheel. But this episode got me wondering if you can do some amount of piloting from there? If no, why do you like the forward facing ones if there are no directional controls there?
For the answer to this question, I suggest you seek out the latest video by Sailing Ruby Rose on their channel. Here they discuss the benefits to forward nav stations over side and rear facing navs. It's probably too lengthy a discussion to have here. But in essence You can steer a vessel via the electronic equipment on board, plotting courses 1000's of miles in advance. Then it is just a matter of changing the sails and tacking where necessary.
A short answer to your question, many sailors like to sit in that direction, because they have an autopilot with a wheel to steer by hand. Or change the course. The rest of the work with sails you to it outside.
Why is the angle on the foredeck and coach house any advantage to windage? When underway under sail the wind isnt coming from the front and when at anchor you want the boat pushed straight back from the anchor. So why is a rear sloped coach house any advantage at all?
While under sail close-hauled the apparent wind does come over the front at about a 30-40 degree angle so it definitely makes a difference. They're also angled inward from the sides so at apparent wind angles from 30 degrees all the way to 90-100 degrees you'll benefit from the less windage. At anchor you definitely benefit as well. Think of the shape of this cat. It wants to sit, bows straight into the wind at anchor. That's the path of least resistance for the wind to pass over the boat. The less windage from head on the better because it'll cause that boat to be more stable and not sail from side to side. Also, the less windage, the less pressure on your anchor and thus you're less likely to drag.
Plus you can see the sails from the nav station...And if you take a GREEN WAVE over the bows these windows offer less resistance...a flat window might more easily be 'punched' out by a big wave!
@@gbsailing9436 I like the design and aesthetic of the reverse raked windows I see on a lot of the new designs in power yachts. They offer not only safety from the sun but also reduce glare from the sun thus aiding in safe navigation. Not to mention the added benefit of lessening the heat build up caused by those large raked windows. I dont know why a builder like Leopard with the forward cockpit wouldnt incorporate this beautiful feature in their boats. Not to mention the benefit you could have adding a portuguese type walk around on the foredeck that could also be used for tracking for a self tacking sail. I wish I could better convey my vision. Hope you can sort of get an idea of what I'm thinking of. Maybe its just bad ideas I have.
@@bucknaykid5821 Yes I do know of Portuguese style windows. I think on Trawler styled yachts where speeds can be lower and less internal reflection of light is needed, they are good. But for a sailing vessel like this I prefer the better sail visibility and easier access to the coach roof that these windows give. As I said earlier, every single boat design is an exercise in compromise. No design is perfect or even correct - it comes down to what you prefer and are seeking in a design. As a designer, the minute you draw a line on a piece of paper for your next design, you are limiting the specifications in some way. "Oh, you should have made the draft deeper, or the length longer/shorter, the space in the cabin bigger, the surface area of the water line less." There is no perfect rule/s, only compromise and design. Typically, if you want more space (especially in the bedrooms) then by a bigger boat...Don't be surprised then when it weights more and doesn't more as fast.
People pan you for pointing out storage cause in your earlier clips all you pointed out was storage and joinery. You are supposed to be learning the lines. You almost never do any advanced research on a vessel you are showing. Your subs and views reflect that. How about mentioning some specs, tankage, solar, hp, that kool little wifi boost on the left davit. Seems like you have live aboard experience, but not a lot of sailing time. How about some performance specs ? Estimated of course. You do not need to point out storage. Your excellent video quality shows that stuff admirably. Storage really matters when you consider how far you want to go. I hope you check out Delos and La Vagabond. Riley and Elaina got their cat up to 23 knots and will be in Viet Nam soon building a custom tri-maran Uma started out with out no hot water, no water maker, no windlass, a collapsible dingy etc. You are a great couple with a really cute kid. Please offer some useful info. Your vids will interest many more watchers. You will get a little more cash. If you so desire you can get you boat going a little sooner. Keep on learning so we can as well. Thanks and have a great day
... But! But! .. so you sayin if taller than about 5'9" you cannot stand at the helm .... Wa Wa Wa with descending crescendo ... that is bizarre .... would like to see a higher back on the helm seat for comfort when relaxing at the helm keeping an eye on things ..... on the whole a great looking boat .. love that you can be tending something on the cook-top and still have pretty much a 360 view and can see the instruments at the chart table, Ideal could not be much better ... thx for the share ... as always .. never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans ...
The hardtop needs to be extended laterally to cover the entire helm stations. To do otherwise is foolish. When on watch, the helmsperson is the most important crewman of the boat. He or she is responsible for navigation, not crashing into things and preventing the boat from broaching so rolling over. Therefore, the helmsperson should not be distracted by spray or cold or even warm water running down his or her head and neck. The helm station should be protected and these are not, at least not adequately. Otherwise, very nice.
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I've never been on a sailboat of any kind. I've been on motor yachts. And I don't know a damn time about sailing. I have picked up a lot of the lingo, parts of the boat along with rigging. But mostly I love looking at floorplans. It started with houses & mobile homes. Then RV's, & motor yachts. I then found Jordan & Randi's channel. I saw my 1st sailboat floorplan. Thought it was so cool with the design. Andddd... I've been hooked watching y'all's channel ever since. Just love it! And to make this even more trippy. I'm not an Architect. I'm a truck driver that's been fighting for disability for many years. My med card was snatched after finding out I have lupus. And the real nail on the coffin was heart attacks 3 & 4. I had 1& 2 at 36yrs old. 3& 4 @ 45. I'm 46 now & still being refused disability. Go figure.
As a dad of a 24 and 21 year old...dude, never worry about Morgan being talkative. :-) Those sounds are pure joy.
Thanks for sharing a look at at an amazing cat. Honestly - until this video not one I would have considered but now...maybe?
Be well.
You all make a great trio...always helps to have both your perspectives on any boat, and Morgan's additional comments are terminally cute! This is an incredible cat!
I love the boat, everything looks extremely well laid out, from bow to stern, top to bottom. And that kitchen is absolutely perfect!
Great video guys! Thanks so much for the shout out!! Hopefully this helps anyone curious about the Seawind 1600.
No problem! Thanks for having us aboard!
The very first thing that I like about your channel is "YOU TWO GUYS".. You complement each other's views of a boat so well... Two soft kind of guys enjoying life at it's own pace! Next thing is your analysis of the boat.. You see things from all the perspectives.. Next is covering important things and explaining why you feel it is important.. In total, you score 10/10 and I love watching your channel.. Stay good, stay safe and stay blessed.. Loads of love from India..
Out of my price range but a beautiful catamaran. Thanks for this tour of a dream boat. I feel for you guys, cause you really won’t have an easy time sailing till the little one is probably 8 years old. Gives you guys time to put money away and save for your dream. Key is to keep your health in the meantime and don’t stop dreaming. By touring all these boats, you’ll be far ahead of anyone else searching for a good priced boat.
The perfect boat and perfect tour. This is the boat.
I love having your kiddo in the video.
Your little human is seriously adorable.
Great boat. The raised cockpit, with storage under, and helm set up reminds me of the old Lagoon 67. The retractable rudders are awesome. A 50 plus foot boat floating in less than 2 feet of water opens up so many more anchorages. In addition, the fact the rudders are hung externally is a fantastic safety feature.
Love the zero clutter look on the fore deck,nice and tidy,free of ropes everywhere.
Just like to give you my apenion i don't mind the quiet baby talking in the video it brings a smile to me to see
Yes, I always enjoyed all your videos. Fabio and Kristin sure take good care of their boat, not to mention a great diet busting menus. 👍🙂
It's so good to see you Randi! Morgan was talking up a storm and our 11 month old was locked in. I wish I could know what she was saying!
i like the Seawind brand, definitely top of my list.
Yes I love this sailboat this is my baby here, just what I need.
the helm stations are so much part of social life on the aft deck - all too often, they are raised (Outremer, Balance, HH...), but here, they're practically on the same level as the aft deck, making them part of social life on the aft deck, and the seats look super comfy.
an open book, that boat is - easy to read and you just dig it right away. Very desirable.
Ruby Rose have been sailing a Seawind waiting for theirs to be finished. They have some good vids about Seawinds.
glad you shared this with all of us...
Nice cat. What I look for first is: Draft, sail plan, engines, electronics, head waste handling, bridge deck clearance, watermaker, AC, gen set, and tank capacities. I figure the rest is eye candy, and will be there.
I really appreciate your videos. They are in my humble opinion one of the best Sailboat tour youtube channel out there. They are also about "real boats", meaning they are more tangible more affordable for everyday people... not like the superyatch tours and such.
Either way, keep up the good work, i always appreciate it.
Morgan is trying to follow what mom is talking about...adorable.
Now that's a boat one could live on!!!
Storage is key and we are busy working on storage setup here!!! Great vid guys!
Morgan is the ROCK STAR of this video!
The 1370 Ruby Rose Edition has been ordered, it will still take time, but we are already looking forward to it.
Mainsheet bridle and performance catamaran are mutually exclusive, I know some ppl love these boats, but I meet a lot of boat owners that don’t seem to know much about boats so I’m not sure that says much. Points for the listing rudders but that mainsheet system is a dealbreaker
So adorable! What a talker! So cute! Your daughter of course! :)
ITS MORGAN APPROVED!🤗
Love the videos, keep em coming 🤙🏻
Nice boat.
Big money
Great tour
Thank you
Very nicely designed boat.
I like that you said "yet"…
Another great video!
As much as I've tried, I just can't find the Seawind love! At $900K base you are really looking at $1.1mil for a sail ready production cat. This puts it in the same ballpark as a Balance 482 or you can sail away in a Knysna 500 SE for less. Both of which, are far superior semi-custom builds IMO.
You missed the cockpit frig just before entering the salon on the starboard side ! Not to mention the sliding window above the sink !
Randi, its good to see you back in the videos more. Both perspectives make the reviews far more in depth, and your smile is far prettier than your husband's :)
It’s perfect. Modern but not cold. Well build and organize inside and outside. Good colour’’s choices. The next one to me.. if I became millionaire!!!😃👋🇨🇭
These are great and give great insight and ideas on what to look at & for.
Love your work
Had a catamaran with engines in a similar position outside and above the transom steps. In the tropics it means working exposed to the sun and rain, often upside down. Believe me this has its drawbacks
Beautiful boat
really dig that foot window in the second bath. Did not look used in the least.
GOOD CATAMARAN . NICE VIDEO
They did a great job with the deck and cot-pit. So glad not to see a crazy fly bridge or the helm station with all the lines lead to it . As if the helmsperson does not have enough to do or the space to handle all the lines. (This is not a crewed charter boat, you are supposed to all be involved!)
Should be a very Sail-able boat!
Just try not to fill all that ‘wonderful storage’ up with do much weight to take the fun out of the sailing !
Cheers Warren
She's a beauty ❤️❤️😍 😍
The best thing about this Cat is it's "Baby Approved"!!
Awww the baby ! Buy it 😄
Here's a tip. Never make a video without the whole family . You guys rock together , stay together .....
There’s so much room for activities!
Hey Jordan & Randi, nice review! Love the galley too. Watching this review, I kept comparing the 1600 to the Outremer 51 (of course) and was wondering, does this boat have a single-line or double-line reefing system? BTW, how old is Morgan now? She's almost speaking English. Better start teaching her a second language, she's going to be a linguist.
Why you all mothetf**krs care what the is teaching to her daughter??
First off, Morgan is growing up so fast and is absolutely precious! This Cat was indeed a wonder of modern construction with speed, comfort and livability! At every turn you can see how much time & effort went into its design. Loved that Galley too Randi! You must be getting ready to go back to school/work soon. Who will be taking care of Morgan?
I think, that's the problem of the mother, whether Morgan goes to school or not.
Love the videos and love the Seawind.
A good review, but you didn't mention the great ventilation from all the opening windows, particularly the large ones and build quality. It's my dream boat as well so it's a race to Seawind to see if they want to give one away! André in Sydney.
Awesome, video. Cute baby guys.
I'd like a mini greenhouse under the slanted windows for fresh herbs and greens
Oh hey, I see Yoda's food bowl, lol.That would mean that this is Wanderlust.
Yoda indeed!!
Beautiful boat and a great tour. Do you think those helm stations would be a little wet?
Nice, I like the low boom, far to many catamarans with the sails so high , and above a fly bridge. One for people that sail and not motor everywhere. 👍 Your bambino getting bigger by the day . 👍
Those cabin windows look HOT in the tropics. And contrary to intuition, slanted windows don't really help with aerodynamics. Aerodynamic shapes are basically flat in the front with a teardrop slope in the back. Nobody is really putting aero fairings on the back of a cockpit (or side/back depending on wind angle), so practically speaking air drag is a simple matter of the surface area you can see straight on from the wind angle. Slants and swoops may offer other purposes just not so much reduced drag.
They would off less resistance at low wind speed (2-4knots), and besides, with their angle you can see the sails from the nav station...And if you take a GREEN WAVE over the bows these windows offer less resistance...a flat window might more easily be 'punched' out by a big wave!
Loved the boat...all about it is great
I always try to give at least a like. Hopefully Morgie benefits!💕♥️
Hello 👋 nice video thanks you made my day. Saludos
AMERICAN OTHER COMMENTS LONG HAIR BUT IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE SEEN ANY OF YOURS AND I'VE ALWAYS ENJOYED YOUR CHANNEL BUT YES IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE SEEN YOUR YOURS
I also like the general design of the boat but I'm not a fan of the swept back windows which can let more light into the cabin and make it hotter than a boat with more vertical windows, and some of those have overhangs to provide even more shade. I like the use of regular solar panels rather than the flexible type glued to the surface. They are far easier to repair or replace, stay cooler, and generally perform better. The only thing I would add, and I haven't researched this yet, is a solar water heater. Also revising the hatch to the engines to open the other way is safer.
I'm watching this from my liveaboard in NZ so... +1 for storage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😁
Beautiful catamaran. I personally like the new Outremer 55 better, although I can't afford either one yet.
The outremer 55 is over $500,000 more than the 1600
love your video's
Very nice boat. I mainly like mono hulls but after seeing that Cat I may be changing my mind. Now how do they pull a cat out of the water for dry dock, they can not use a travel lift. Do they use a trailer big enough for that boat? Love your videos.
That's a nice catamaran!
Videos are great!
I felt like the salon could have been a bit deeper (more space bow to stern), particularly for the LOA of the boat, but other than that, really great cat!
The problem with performance cats is you end up with narrow hulls compared to non-performance. This is a 50'+ cat yet the forward berth is really a single.
Still if it works for you, happy travels :)
Thanks for the review.
You are correct. If you care more about maximizing interior volume a performance cat is not for you. Personally, I care more about maximizing performance so I would go even narrower on the hulls if I could. 😁
Cheers
Nice review, hope your dream comes true someday.
So perfect, just need over $1,000,000
How can you buy one of these without having to go through a broker? In my experience, they are half the battle when trying to buy a yacht.
Look guys, all you have to do is get 3-4 million subscribers and maybe you could get one. Ha ha. Agree, very nice vessel, although I do not like saildrives. Otherwise love it. And I thought is was cute when you said “ it’s holding up well “ and it’s one year old. I have had boats over 50 yrs old holding up very well. My Cal 2-46 comes to mind. If you ever get a chance to view a NICE Cal 2-46 galley up, you would be amazed. And yes they sail well! Many have circumnavigated and I have crossed oceans on mine. Sometimes averaging near 200 mile days.
this might sound small, but it's not. the down facing, water facing windows are portless and small it looks like.. when the waves start pounding a vessel that's a refreshing sight to see instead of a hatch that leaks. Is that cock pit encloseable? I would think it is, as long as you can get those helms protected I'm sold.
Great boat, but would love to see someone change the sheets on these beds when no walk around, thinking would be quite difficult, especially for a fatty.
Boats, unfortunately are an exercise in compromise. This compromises comfort for boat speed and performance. If you want a comfortable catamaran, then you wold look to a larger 'hulled' catamaran like the Lagoon's, Sun Reef's, Xsquiste, Majaestic's or St. Francis's. You'll notice from the specs that this weights in at ~14K kgs, where as the more spacious models often top 20K kgs, this displacement costs in boat speed. So instead of traveling the ocean and having to do a 10 day passage, you can do it in 5. It makes for a big difference in sailing comfort.
Nice Cat!
Thanks for the great tour. I would love to have a fantastic boat like this, but I can´t help to think it is a little below the standard set by the other Seawinds considering its size and price? The helm positions are less protected, the saloon is a step down and there is not the same integration with the outside. Maybe Seawind will consider an update after the 1370 deliveries start.
AWESOME CAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If the galley comes with its own Fabio , it’s bound to be excellent Randi 😃🤣🥂
A gentleman never sails to windward...Capt Q .
Nice boat. I would prefer a more protected engine access ideally from the inside, but at least with the hatches opening the other way. I am thinking about increment weather and an emergency...
I'm sure you could either order the boat that way when purchasing, or refit the lids fairly easily...
Seawind has a video out of the changes they've made to the 1600. They are calling it the 1600 Passagemaker. You might want to check it out. They added some length and width to make it able to handle more weight. This is one of my favorite cats along with the Vision 444 which you toured a while back. I know it's comparing apples to oranges, but from the standpoint of a livaboard couple, which did you like better?
From what we've seen, the Seawind 1600 is our personal favorite production cat for a liveaboard couple or small family. The passagemaker looks great as well. I don't think you could get a better boat without going full custom.
I have a non-sailor question. You guys always talk about preferring the forward facing nav station. I always figured this was just a place to review charts and electronics of the boat, since it doesn’t have a wheel. But this episode got me wondering if you can do some amount of piloting from there? If no, why do you like the forward facing ones if there are no directional controls there?
For the answer to this question, I suggest you seek out the latest video by Sailing Ruby Rose on their channel. Here they discuss the benefits to forward nav stations over side and rear facing navs. It's probably too lengthy a discussion to have here. But in essence You can steer a vessel via the electronic equipment on board, plotting courses 1000's of miles in advance. Then it is just a matter of changing the sails and tacking where necessary.
A short answer to your question, many sailors like to sit in that direction, because they have an autopilot with a wheel to steer by hand. Or change the course. The rest of the work with sails you to it outside.
Thanks, but I prefer the Beneteau line of cats.
Wonder how much it costs.
Why is the angle on the foredeck and coach house any advantage to windage? When underway under sail the wind isnt coming from the front and when at anchor you want the boat pushed straight back from the anchor. So why is a rear sloped coach house any advantage at all?
While under sail close-hauled the apparent wind does come over the front at about a 30-40 degree angle so it definitely makes a difference. They're also angled inward from the sides so at apparent wind angles from 30 degrees all the way to 90-100 degrees you'll benefit from the less windage. At anchor you definitely benefit as well. Think of the shape of this cat. It wants to sit, bows straight into the wind at anchor. That's the path of least resistance for the wind to pass over the boat. The less windage from head on the better because it'll cause that boat to be more stable and not sail from side to side. Also, the less windage, the less pressure on your anchor and thus you're less likely to drag.
@@LearningtheLines cool thanks for the information
Plus you can see the sails from the nav station...And if you take a GREEN WAVE over the bows these windows offer less resistance...a flat window might more easily be 'punched' out by a big wave!
@@gbsailing9436 I like the design and aesthetic of the reverse raked windows I see on a lot of the new designs in power yachts. They offer not only safety from the sun but also reduce glare from the sun thus aiding in safe navigation. Not to mention the added benefit of lessening the heat build up caused by those large raked windows. I dont know why a builder like Leopard with the forward cockpit wouldnt incorporate this beautiful feature in their boats. Not to mention the benefit you could have adding a portuguese type walk around on the foredeck that could also be used for tracking for a self tacking sail. I wish I could better convey my vision. Hope you can sort of get an idea of what I'm thinking of. Maybe its just bad ideas I have.
@@bucknaykid5821 Yes I do know of Portuguese style windows. I think on Trawler styled yachts where speeds can be lower and less internal reflection of light is needed, they are good. But for a sailing vessel like this I prefer the better sail visibility and easier access to the coach roof that these windows give. As I said earlier, every single boat design is an exercise in compromise. No design is perfect or even correct - it comes down to what you prefer and are seeking in a design. As a designer, the minute you draw a line on a piece of paper for your next design, you are limiting the specifications in some way. "Oh, you should have made the draft deeper, or the length longer/shorter, the space in the cabin bigger, the surface area of the water line less." There is no perfect rule/s, only compromise and design. Typically, if you want more space (especially in the bedrooms) then by a bigger boat...Don't be surprised then when it weights more and doesn't more as fast.
Its my dream cat. I'm one lottery win from placing an order.
Are you two sure that's your baby.👶 the cute factor is pretty high. Could be the next Gerber food baby. Hang in there guys.
People pan you for pointing out storage cause in your earlier clips all you pointed out was storage and joinery. You are supposed to be learning the lines. You almost never do any advanced research on a vessel you are showing.
Your subs and views reflect that. How about mentioning some specs, tankage, solar, hp, that kool little wifi boost on the left davit. Seems like you have live aboard experience, but not a lot of sailing time.
How about some performance specs ? Estimated of course. You do not need to point out storage. Your excellent video quality shows that stuff admirably.
Storage really matters when you consider how far you want to go.
I hope you check out Delos and La Vagabond. Riley and Elaina got their cat up to 23 knots and will be in Viet Nam soon building a custom tri-maran
Uma started out with out no hot water, no water maker, no windlass, a collapsible dingy etc.
You are a great couple with a really cute kid.
Please offer some useful info. Your vids will interest many more watchers. You will get a little more cash. If you so desire you can get you boat going a little sooner.
Keep on learning so we can as well.
Thanks and have a great day
Everybody loves a million dollar boat. As the price goes up, the compromises fall away. Certainly a viable world cruiser that actually sails great.
... But! But! .. so you sayin if taller than about 5'9" you cannot stand at the helm .... Wa Wa Wa with descending crescendo ... that is bizarre .... would like to see a higher back on the helm seat for comfort when relaxing at the helm keeping an eye on things ..... on the whole a great looking boat .. love that you can be tending something on the cook-top and still have pretty much a 360 view and can see the instruments at the chart table, Ideal could not be much better ... thx for the share ... as always .. never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans ...
You stand on the right or left hand sides where the throttles are. Besides, why wouldn't you want to sit down?
The hardtop needs to be extended laterally to cover the entire helm stations. To do otherwise is foolish. When on watch, the helmsperson is the most important crewman of the boat. He or she is responsible for navigation, not crashing into things and preventing the boat from broaching so rolling over. Therefore, the helmsperson should not be distracted by spray or cold or even warm water running down his or her head and neck. The helm station should be protected and these are not, at least not adequately. Otherwise, very nice.
Antares 44 is probably in the running for best.
The Antares is a boat for charter and not for real performance sailors