If everyone’s life is put under a a microscope and that’s the worse we’ve heard? I’m sure you were perfect over the years. I swear Peiple try to read people down to their level nowadays because they themselves are horrified people
He didn't bully anyone Read Chris Kanyons book, when the office found out he was gay, they put him in a closet on smackdown in a Boy George outfit taker legit beat the living hell out of him, because Chris wanted to come out
Rene is so good. He lets his guests speak. He is honest. Doesn’t try to hype himself up because he doesn’t have to. Thank you for what you do. I hope more people see this. You are so much more than your WWE run.
I still like Taker I don’t know any of these guys ppl just need to learn song worship these celebrities/entertainers we don’t know how they’re behind the scenes
Then you got Mark Henry's response to finding out Darren Young was gay Gives him a hug. "Why didn't you tell me a long time ago! A bunch of my family is gay!"
These wrestlers sound so sad. Grown men living in absolute fear of other grown men who play pretend. "Oh no, the UNDERTAKER isn't going to like my gay little dance!" I'm sure he'd be fine with it if Daddy Vince told him to do it on TV though.
Bro legit this is what I’m thinking. Sure, they can make or break a persons push SADLY, but man, it’s sad to see grown ass men just not stand up for themselves. I love taker but bro was just the mafia boss to all this bullshit. Whole lot of scummy bullying going on and he just watched and laughed fr
@@sethantoniorodriguez9190 I don't call adults picking on each other "bullying.." Guys trying to get a rise out of you AND YOU LET THEM?? You talk to him like a man and say if you have a problem let's handle it. I do not respect you because you put more time in simply because you been alive longer.
@@kennedywilliams2280 Yeah you wouldn't last a month in that locker room if you openly disrespected Taker like that, right or wrong. And you'd get you're ass beat as well if it came to it.
@@supermegaguy666 The Undertaker was a coward who couldn't fight and took it out on the newbies at work. Imagine being 50 years old shadowboxing like an old ass man. Lmao but okay fanboy, I bet you would do everything he demanded of you out of "respect" just like all these other weak ass man children. "You wouldn't last a month in that locker room!!!!' As if I would ever be enough of a mark to risk my health and life for a company that won't even cover my insurance. Stfu boy.
@@supermegaguy666 I doubt that last line. Most fake wrestlers are over glorified male cheer leaders. Gtfo here with that tough man shit. The last wwe guy who tried that tough man shit was cm punk and see what it did for him. The only reason Brock lesbar was legit in ufc was cause he was the literal weight limit for the heavy weight class. Lmao. He outweighs most his opponents, and even when faced with a legit grappler like frank mir, got his ass handed to him due to a basic submission. Lmao. Grow up, nigga.
Jesús Christ the build up to his nervous explanation had me burst out laughing Almost like something from South Park “to be honest guys.. I just think it was a little gay” - Randy Marsh
Another OVW talent called up and then run out for BS reasons. WWE had no idea what they had with some of these guys, whether it be the Tolands, Brent Albright, Elijah Burke, Johnny Jeter, and many more. It was BS like this that began causing me to see through a lot of WWE's shenanigans. I'd be reading about these guys in PWI, hyped to see a new talent to shake up the roster, only for them to immediately get saddled with an asinine gimmick or just put on TV and forgotten about.
Some of these stories are making me look at some of these wrestlers in a different light. I guess never meet you heroes. Poor Chad they must of rigged the shit outta him man
I like Taker but he’s a slave to Vince. The way Vince said “I put taker through hell and back” so arrogantly, how did any of this make you a better person? More money for sure it’s like Taker loves his sadistic master. His wife Michelle is straight up. I like her a lot. I’m just talking based on gossip y’all but heck this is what this is for anyways. I also don’t like how back in the day it was known that Melina got bullied by these men in wrestlers court yelling and screaming at her as she’s an easy crier. And I can best believe that Melina cried not so much out of fear but out of helplessness that if these guys were girls her size she would mess them up. The allegations about her dating life? And Batista stood up for her allegedly. And remember guys on Raw ivory talking about wrestlers court and she just kept talking to them and instead of Taker it was Triple H. Another gripe is Vince. He likes muscular muscle men. He used to tout them out back in the day making them wreck every wrestler in the ring and then it seemed he got bored of them and left them out to the wolves.
They did that to Melina because she threw Angelina Loves bag in the trash and told that's where she belongs. Melina got everything she deserved for that.
I mean once Undertaker retired and started doing more interviews he started to show his true self and how he was backstage, these shoot interviews are the receipts Guess it wasnt just the Golden age and the Kliq creating a toxic environment
The key to beat hazing is to just no sell it and make them regret it. It's stupid but I learned it was better to take that beating for the one day, rather than getting pinched every day going forward. I don't condone it, but just like that Kenny Rogers song says "Sometimes you have to fight when you're a man". I actually think female bully's are worse to each other. They attack their victims mentally and behind each other's backs. Most guys are just immature dicks. That's what these 40 year old wrestlers remind me of.
Sounds like a modern times Diff'rent Strokes with Arnold and Dudley at the bike shop, hanging out with Mr Horton. When did they sit and watch the adult cartoons?
Absolutely pathetic behaviour from people who should have known better. I'm glad we're having Taker exposed eventually. A shame tis stuff has largely emerged after he has retired with wealth and respect.
@@ThunderJuice I imagine Michelle is not cheap either. lol Same woman who tells the world he's not her type & that she didn't wanna date him, but did so because he wouldn't leave her alone. And told then world that her father thinks he's overrated & will be the first to say it. LOL! ALLEGEDLY she treats him like shit when there's no cameras around. And if it's true, I think "no better for him." Be a good dose of karma. But again, ONLY IF IT'S TRUE.
I love this podcast so much. I think something is wrong with the Apple podcast upload tho… some episodes won’t play… am I the only one having this issue?
@@cafederene creating one now! Thank you!! Please keep the podcast going. This is one of the best wrestling podcasts around. Love how real you guys are about everything.
Man undertaker and the others supporting wrestlers court better be glad times were different back then these days undertaker woulda caught HANDS outside of the ring and in the streets people are more unhinged these days in this case rightfully so.
probably didn't necessarily hate gay people. but found something to mess with Chad over. then keep in mind Orlando was taking the tombstone, FU, Batista bomb, whatever it was at the time. Orlando was getting laid out by the top babyface to send the crowd home happy every night. I don't know that Bradshaw had to treat him better. but if he didn't, he would really be a dick because Orlando Jordan was helping JBL keep his heat.
@@forgottenmma3694 mystique??? that would require providing some kind of interesting setting.......not a dirty living room with his nose pressed against the computer screen...
99% of people who are homophobic, or go out of their way to slander someone, with false claims of homosexuality and to bully them, excetera, just means they're homosexual themselves... It simply comes down to this and it's 100% provable, so don't think you're going to debate me on it, because if you do, you need to re-read what I just wrote and that is this, people are not affected, unless there is some kind of Truth involved and so if somebody goes out of their way, to make a big deal out of nothing, literally, whatever they're making a big deal out of, most likely pertains to them and they're just simply reflecting all that inner anger and confusion and emotion, on to someone else. I would bet the Undertaker and JBL and all those other guys, who were apart of this, are most definitely homosexual and this is the way they deal with it in public, opposed to how they deal with it behind closed doors...
@@nadirsanchez1675 Sounds like you knew him and were there?? Regardless of his alleged behaviour, there are other ways to go about things, from listening to this interview, it sounds like wrestlers ganging up on one person. Taking shits in bags, dumping stuff in the shower for peoples amusement doesn't make someone tough or a man, makes them nothing more than a bully and a coward, people who do this should take a look at themselves in the mirror.
And this is why Jeff Hardy and RVD used to sit in their car and get stoned instead of trying to socialize. I would have been the same way. These people sound horrible. I'm a conservative Christian who reformed into a Libertarian as I got older, and I don't like a lot of the SJW stuff going on now, BUT I AM GLAD STUFF LIKE THIS IS NOW NOT TOLERATED. In my experience, this stuff was always done by people who weren't outgoing and wouldn't try anything new, and if someone was actually confident and outgoing...It meant they liked men. Good job. 👎
@@louie8425 I did hear that Ultimate Warriror would opt out of banging Hulk Hogan's wife back in the day. I never knew that about Lex, but looking back on him, he didn't seem like a schidt stirrer. He was probably consumed with staying fit with how he looked.
@@Ken9284 Yeah, Bro. I don't know about your background or your life, but I lived throughout most of high school. I dressed nice, worked out, took karate, meditated a lot, traveled, read self-improvement, and on trips I was always eating with girls from different schools/walking with them. It didn't hurt, but Bro, it was just annoying.
Furthermore, guys like Edge, Matt Striker and The Miz came out fine because they have the mental strength to handle the business. The ones who can't take the hazing don't belong in the business in the first place
Look guys Chad got what he had coming to him and he didn’t really belong in professional wrestling if he was gonna cry because people think he’s gay but he thinks he’s not…. Guy stuff isn’t always cool and rainbowish but it’s better than being phony because you wanna keep your money. Chad was probably replying like “guys stahp, don’t say that, mmmnot gay okay guys geez” That doesn’t help. Good for the men in the locker room that day but sad for you Tom. Sounds like you had someone who wasn’t right mentally as a partner.
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What a "great guy" Undertaker was sure he didn't bully anyone but he co-signed every single incident
I guess that's exactly why Paul London called him the "mafia boss" of the locker room.
If everyone’s life is put under a a microscope and that’s the worse we’ve heard? I’m sure you were perfect over the years. I swear Peiple try to read people down to their level nowadays because they themselves are horrified people
@@bdix42 taker was an instegator
Didn’t he bully ddp? He definitely screwed his wwe career up
He didn't bully anyone
Read Chris Kanyons book, when the office found out he was gay, they put him in a closet on smackdown in a Boy George outfit
taker legit beat the living hell out of him, because Chris wanted to come out
Rene is so good. He lets his guests speak. He is honest. Doesn’t try to hype himself up because he doesn’t have to. Thank you for what you do. I hope more people see this. You are so much more than your WWE run.
Thanks
Shut up. Lol ofcourse he is more than his wwe run. Everyone who does a job, no matter how long they do it? Is more than that job.
He's perfect I wish he was a peer in my life I always had shitty ones😂
@@andygarza8132 You must be fun at parties, cynical edgelord
@@cafedereneWhat Holly did to you was crap... and that's coming from an Anglophone from Ontario 😂
Once that tape made it to Pat Patterson's office, it never came back out!
I’m dying 😂
I can say this will be a legendary RUclips comment 😂🤣💀☠️
Pat probably didn't have an office by then. He was less hands on after October 2004.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
“Awh man we were up all night dancing” 😂😂😂😂
They were just there for the salad bar.
I wonder how scared Orlando was?
That's what I was thinking.
In another video they have they mentioned Orlando was always open and didn’t take crap about his sexuality!
Orlando was good friends with Bradshaw, Doug Basham was on his podcast saying they always went out drinking together and apparently didn't care
Oh gosh poor Chad man, just trying to help the gimmick out… 😂
I grew up admiring Undertaker in the 90s
Stories like these, Rene's Flag, and what he did to Chris Kanyon
What an asshole
I still like Taker I don’t know any of these guys ppl just need to learn song worship these celebrities/entertainers we don’t know how they’re behind the scenes
@@donaldb93
Go in ignorance if you don't like hearing these stories, don't listen
Then you got Mark Henry's response to finding out Darren Young was gay
Gives him a hug.
"Why didn't you tell me a long time ago! A bunch of my family is gay!"
What a brilliant story, indeed it was pretty gay.
These wrestlers sound so sad. Grown men living in absolute fear of other grown men who play pretend. "Oh no, the UNDERTAKER isn't going to like my gay little dance!" I'm sure he'd be fine with it if Daddy Vince told him to do it on TV though.
Bro legit this is what I’m thinking. Sure, they can make or break a persons push SADLY, but man, it’s sad to see grown ass men just not stand up for themselves. I love taker but bro was just the mafia boss to all this bullshit. Whole lot of scummy bullying going on and he just watched and laughed fr
@@sethantoniorodriguez9190 I don't call adults picking on each other "bullying.." Guys trying to get a rise out of you AND YOU LET THEM?? You talk to him like a man and say if you have a problem let's handle it. I do not respect you because you put more time in simply because you been alive longer.
@@kennedywilliams2280 Yeah you wouldn't last a month in that locker room if you openly disrespected Taker like that, right or wrong. And you'd get you're ass beat as well if it came to it.
@@supermegaguy666 The Undertaker was a coward who couldn't fight and took it out on the newbies at work. Imagine being 50 years old shadowboxing like an old ass man. Lmao but okay fanboy, I bet you would do everything he demanded of you out of "respect" just like all these other weak ass man children. "You wouldn't last a month in that locker room!!!!' As if I would ever be enough of a mark to risk my health and life for a company that won't even cover my insurance. Stfu boy.
@@supermegaguy666 I doubt that last line. Most fake wrestlers are over glorified male cheer leaders. Gtfo here with that tough man shit. The last wwe guy who tried that tough man shit was cm punk and see what it did for him. The only reason Brock lesbar was legit in ufc was cause he was the literal weight limit for the heavy weight class. Lmao. He outweighs most his opponents, and even when faced with a legit grappler like frank mir, got his ass handed to him due to a basic submission. Lmao.
Grow up, nigga.
Not that much into wrestling anymore, but i love hearing these backstage stories from the 2000’s
What a different time the early, mid-2000s were.
They were definitely MID. That's why SmackDown! hasn't been on Thursday night, since. It sucks.
@@bradpaton3927 smackdown was on Thursdays in the 2010’s for a while here and there
@@bradpaton3927 no those were the good days
Jesús Christ the build up to his nervous explanation had me burst out laughing
Almost like something from South Park
“to be honest guys.. I just think it was a little gay”
- Randy Marsh
Jesús Christ I didn’t even get to the next part….. I didn’t know they had “you tuk ur jehbs” guys in wrestlers court…
😂😂
Another OVW talent called up and then run out for BS reasons. WWE had no idea what they had with some of these guys, whether it be the Tolands, Brent Albright, Elijah Burke, Johnny Jeter, and many more. It was BS like this that began causing me to see through a lot of WWE's shenanigans. I'd be reading about these guys in PWI, hyped to see a new talent to shake up the roster, only for them to immediately get saddled with an asinine gimmick or just put on TV and forgotten about.
Yep, Aron Stevens. Damaja, Doug Basham, Dinsmore, Conway... They had serious depth if Johnny Ace wasn't so chapped about Cornette..
Chad unknowingly ribbed himself ....a rare occurence in professional wrestling
Are you saying... That a Dick self ribbed??
So true 😂😂😂
Some of these stories are making me look at some of these wrestlers in a different light. I guess never meet you heroes. Poor Chad they must of rigged the shit outta him man
Yeah it’s how I feel about the undertaker. Lost respect for him.
"I thought they will tear his ass up!"
Not for the first time that week! Bah dum tssh.
2:50 LMAO 🤣
6:59 I'm dead 💀
that shit had me dying loool
Ikr 😂 Hell, sounded like a fun locker room to me🤣
That locker room sounds like a Saturday morning cartoon
I like Taker but he’s a slave to Vince. The way Vince said “I put taker through hell and back” so arrogantly, how did any of this make you a better person? More money for sure it’s like Taker loves his sadistic master. His wife Michelle is straight up. I like her a lot.
I’m just talking based on gossip y’all but heck this is what this is for anyways.
I also don’t like how back in the day it was known that Melina got bullied by these men in wrestlers court yelling and screaming at her as she’s an easy crier. And I can best believe that Melina cried not so much out of fear but out of helplessness that if these guys were girls her size she would mess them up. The allegations about her dating life? And Batista stood up for her allegedly. And remember guys on Raw ivory talking about wrestlers court and she just kept talking to them and instead of Taker it was Triple H. Another gripe is Vince. He likes muscular muscle men. He used to tout them out back in the day making them wreck every wrestler in the ring and then it seemed he got bored of them and left them out to the wolves.
They did that to Melina because she threw Angelina Loves bag in the trash and told that's where she belongs. Melina got everything she deserved for that.
He makes me sick these wrestlers continue to kiss that POS Vince McMahon's ass. I suppose it's Stockholm syndrome.
i love Rene, worked on many shows with him here in QUEBEC
Brutal. Looks a great interview
I mean once Undertaker retired and started doing more interviews he started to show his true self and how he was backstage, these shoot interviews are the receipts
Guess it wasnt just the Golden age and the Kliq creating a toxic environment
Damn man, I never knew this. It makes me think less of jbl. Tank tried to help, good on him at least
Chad must have been quite a dipshyt... Why in the world he'd even need Tank to tell him not to show that video to anyone...
Great podcast
The key to beat hazing is to just no sell it and make them regret it. It's stupid but I learned it was better to take that beating for the one day, rather than getting pinched every day going forward. I don't condone it, but just like that Kenny Rogers song says "Sometimes you have to fight when you're a man".
I actually think female bully's are worse to each other. They attack their victims mentally and behind each other's backs. Most guys are just immature dicks. That's what these 40 year old wrestlers remind me of.
Sounds like a modern times Diff'rent Strokes with Arnold and Dudley at the bike shop, hanging out with Mr Horton. When did they sit and watch the adult cartoons?
I’m very surprised that Chad was not hospitalized by someone in that locker room.
They straightened that boy out the old fashioned way
F workplace bully...
What they did was purposely give you a purposely thought out trick question and on the spot so it's it's even harder to answer
Tank Toland: he was crying, sitting there, performing jumping jacks.
Tyrone Biggums: how can I be asleep and high on crack @ the same time!?
I think Wrestler's Court needs a Dark Side of the Ring episode.
1.41.. I'm laughing already
Absolutely pathetic behaviour from people who should have known better. I'm glad we're having Taker exposed eventually. A shame tis stuff has largely emerged after he has retired with wealth and respect.
Why? So he could have been "canceled?" Lol what a wad.
@@LumpyAdams i don't think he should be, it's just unfortunate with the times. That's my opinion though not speaking for the original comment
‘Taker admitted he used to be the muscle for a loan shark. Of course he’s going to be a “mafia” style person.
Wealth? Not if Jodi Lynn and Sara have anything to say!
@@ThunderJuice I imagine Michelle is not cheap either. lol Same woman who tells the world he's not her type & that she didn't wanna date him, but did so because he wouldn't leave her alone. And told then world that her father thinks he's overrated & will be the first to say it. LOL!
ALLEGEDLY she treats him like shit when there's no cameras around. And if it's true, I think "no better for him." Be a good dose of karma. But again, ONLY IF IT'S TRUE.
I’m only speaking from experience. There is no difference between the locker room and prison.
VICE presents, Dark Side of the Ring: Wrestler’s Court.
Bet Taker would get canceled
Holy Shit! LOL
One of the stupidest career killing gimmicks since the ding dongs 🤦🤦🤦🤦
It looked kind of strange to me 🤣🤣🤣
I love this podcast so much. I think something is wrong with the Apple podcast upload tho… some episodes won’t play… am I the only one having this issue?
Yeah a few people has said they've had issues, podcast is also available on Spotify, podbean and Anchor if that helps
@@cafederene creating one now! Thank you!! Please keep the podcast going. This is one of the best wrestling podcasts around. Love how real you guys are about everything.
Man undertaker and the others supporting wrestlers court better be glad times were different back then these days undertaker woulda caught HANDS outside of the ring and in the streets people are more unhinged these days in this case rightfully so.
Calling him gay? To some of those wrestlers at the time, that's like calling the kettle black and they're black too
Awesome story, weirdos!!!
Lol wtf? He mentioned Orlando Jordan was in the room, so wouldn't he be offended or did the boys completely forget he was openly gay.
probably didn't necessarily hate gay people. but found something to mess with Chad over. then keep in mind Orlando was taking the tombstone, FU, Batista bomb, whatever it was at the time. Orlando was getting laid out by the top babyface to send the crowd home happy every night. I don't know that Bradshaw had to treat him better. but if he didn't, he would really be a dick because Orlando Jordan was helping JBL keep his heat.
Jordan wasn't an idiot who gets offended at everything.
I don't think he was out of the closet back then.
Isnt he bisexual ?
Orlando was bi and he's married to a woman.
It is way too bright in Rene's room.........I wish he would not use so much lighting......
Its part of the ominous mystique. Get use to it, new guy
@@forgottenmma3694 mystique??? that would require providing some kind of interesting setting.......not a dirty living room with his nose pressed against the computer screen...
Some of yall on the internet are so evil
Did the boys ever give rico any shit for his flamboyant character?
I heard he is having issues atm .
...and at that moment, Orlando Bloom knew he fucked up.
Sounds like scene from Full Metal Jacket. Jeez sounds like a great work environment.
Except this is real life…and people like that exist
The wrestling business is so fucking weird
So taker was a bully
judge judy
They wrestle in their underwear tho. Lot of our heroes are really awful people
Why feel bad ...You warned him... sad thing is his mistake costed you
Can Chad be a guest?
He's been a guest
@@cafederene I will look for the episode, forgive me my fellow Canadian I'm new here
99% of people who are homophobic, or go out of their way to slander someone, with false claims of homosexuality and to bully them, excetera, just means they're homosexual themselves... It simply comes down to this and it's 100% provable, so don't think you're going to debate me on it, because if you do, you need to re-read what I just wrote and that is this, people are not affected, unless there is some kind of Truth involved and so if somebody goes out of their way, to make a big deal out of nothing, literally, whatever they're making a big deal out of, most likely pertains to them and they're just simply reflecting all that inner anger and confusion and emotion, on to someone else.
I would bet the Undertaker and JBL and all those other guys, who were apart of this, are most definitely homosexual and this is the way they deal with it in public, opposed to how they deal with it behind closed doors...
Disgusting how wrestlers seemed to be bullied, makes me mad 😡
@@nadirsanchez1675 Sounds like you knew him and were there?? Regardless of his alleged behaviour, there are other ways to go about things, from listening to this interview, it sounds like wrestlers ganging up on one person. Taking shits in bags, dumping stuff in the shower for peoples amusement doesn't make someone tough or a man, makes them nothing more than a bully and a coward, people who do this should take a look at themselves in the mirror.
@@nadirsanchez1675 did you know him then, were you there or witness things?
Put on a cape and you can be super mad.
@@nadirsanchez1675 nice try, Mark Callaway
And this is why Jeff Hardy and RVD used to sit in their car and get stoned instead of trying to socialize. I would have been the same way.
These people sound horrible. I'm a conservative Christian who reformed into a Libertarian as I got older, and I don't like a lot of the SJW stuff going on now, BUT I AM GLAD STUFF LIKE THIS IS NOW NOT TOLERATED.
In my experience, this stuff was always done by people who weren't outgoing and wouldn't try anything new, and if someone was actually confident and outgoing...It meant they liked men.
Good job. 👎
Lex Luger & Ultimate Warrior also hung out by themselves
@@louie8425 I did hear that Ultimate Warriror would opt out of banging Hulk Hogan's wife back in the day.
I never knew that about Lex, but looking back on him, he didn't seem like a schidt stirrer. He was probably consumed with staying fit with how he looked.
@@louie8425 there's stories of Luger hanging out with groups of wrestlers at the bars.
You are 100% correct
@@Ken9284 Yeah, Bro. I don't know about your background or your life, but I lived throughout most of high school.
I dressed nice, worked out, took karate, meditated a lot, traveled, read self-improvement, and on trips I was always eating with girls from different schools/walking with them.
It didn't hurt, but Bro, it was just annoying.
Wrestlers was so homophobic back then but wrestled each other oiled up in underwear…..make it make sense!
Crying in wrestling for any reason other than a death/retirement is weak.
Kurt Angle disagrees. "It's okay to win and cry."
Furthermore, guys like Edge, Matt Striker and The Miz came out fine because they have the mental strength to handle the business. The ones who can't take the hazing don't belong in the business in the first place
True but it is still unnecessary honestly
Look guys Chad got what he had coming to him and he didn’t really belong in professional wrestling if he was gonna cry because people think he’s gay but he thinks he’s not….
Guy stuff isn’t always cool and rainbowish but it’s better than being phony because you wanna keep your money. Chad was probably replying like “guys stahp, don’t say that, mmmnot gay okay guys geez”
That doesn’t help. Good for the men in the locker room that day but sad for you Tom. Sounds like you had someone who wasn’t right mentally as a partner.
@@marcbasil I don’t even know why I wrote this like that 😂
oh my? the undertaker? homophobic?
how has he not been canceled?
@6:58
Lmao. 😂😂😂😂