A Man Dry Scooped 35000 Milligrams Caffeine. This Is What Happened To His Organs.
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These cases are patients who I, or my colleagues have seen. They are de-identified and many instances have been presented in more depth in an academic setting. These videos are not individual medical advice and are for general educational purposes only. I do not give medical advice over the internet.
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"If it doesn't challenge you, it doesn't change you," he thought
Finally an another episode .
a blessing from the lord
what happened to the other comment u wrote, Chubby?
Then he presented to the emergency room
@@spookystars_x3037 it took too much caffeine
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Don't drink 875 cups of coffee in one go, got it.
he mislabeled caffeine for supplements.
why he had caffeine powder in the first place, I've no clue.
@@BattousaiHBr caffeine is arguably the most important ingredient in pre-workout. There are other ingredients that may help with pump and concentration, but its caffeine that keeps you going. The only reason to take a premade preworkout without caffeine is if you're working out a few hours before sleeping. Otherwise, if you're buying preworkout without caffeine, you're pretty much just wasting your money and being a sucker to either advertising or simply a bad product.
The biggest advantage of having a bag of caffeine is allowing you to control the measurement of caffeine, instead of an estimated amount removed from a source such as a coffee bean or even a premade preworkout mix. I take preworkout sometimes and I don't know if that 1 serving is scooping exactly the perfect ideal ratio of whatever the serving is suppose to be. For example, if 1 serving scoop was suppose to be 200mg of caffeine and 100mg of everything else, I don't know if I scooped up 150mg of caffeine and 150mg of everything else.
Nope, but you can drink 874
Espresso please!
@@jaimezozobrado1142 A healthy person can keep going without caffeine, its not important at all.
Dry scoop 35g of caffeine. Then realize half way to the gym you forgot your car at home.
no, 35000!!!!! milligrams.. (scarcasim)
@@SuperLifestreamscarcasim
@@SuperLifestreamI would prefer if you said 35000000 micrograms
dude I had a dream just like this
These are rookie numbers. Try Brain implosion energy, it has 10 kg of pure caffeine.
The fact that he survived is incredible - even more astonishing is that he sustained no lasting damage.
Amazing.
Probably because he was in great shape. People underestimate how far a healthy body can get you, even when you do something really dumb lol.
@@Planclanman3Also with nerve-affecting stuff it is common to be less dangerous in long-term. You jus need to survive.
so coffee is safe!!!!! om nom nom
People like you should be contracted by universities to produce their educational material. This video simply and effectively conveys so many of the biological processes that most teachers struggle to properly present to their students. Absolutely phenonenal.
ET Go Home🤣
LOL
he is a professor
most doctors even struggle with this 😊
Yeah no. This video is nice and informative with great visuals, but it barely even scratches the surface of sympathomimetic toxidrome or caffeine mechanism of action, whether you take college-level physiology or are in medical or other health professions school. People complain about their professors, but chances are they probably don't do that bad a job when you take into account the sheer volume of material that they have to condense and organize for you to learn in a short amount of time. Exceptions exist sure, but at least here in the US higher/professional education is largely of very high quality.
This one is scary, because it wasn't just someone being stupid, but merely negligent. It seems like an honest mistake that anyone can do while not paying attention.
Funny that you consider negligence (while dealing with dangerous objects or substances) to not be stupidity. Hannah Gutierrez-Reed would agree.
EDIT: Since people are morons, I have added the part in parentheses. I suspect this will make no difference to the idiotic responses because so many people are the very kinds of idiots who would do something like this (to someone else), then claim "everyone makes mistakes." If they even admit fault at all.
@@Bacteriophagebs Mistakes happen, it doesn't make you stupid. Negligence is something that happens, one cant be vigilant 24/7.
I think the first mistake was having a giant bin full of pure powdered caffeine in the kitchen
@@Bacteriophagebs Negligence is not tantamount to stupidity, because this guy likely knew overdosing caffeine was dangerous, but made an honest blunder. A stupid person would probably OD on caffeine trying to hop on a tik tok trend.
@@stanley13579 it depends on the type of negligence. Negligent as in mistake v. Negligent as in ‘I don’t need to look both ways before crossing the street’
What's scary about this is that this isn't the typical case of the patient being stupid and landing in the ER. It sounds like this guy had a really good head on his shoulders. He called 911 right away and wasn't embarrassed about his mistake to stop him from telling medical staff exactly what he could've overdosed on by accident, allowing them to have the knowledge to save his life. It was just an honest mistake. I'm glad he was able to recover.
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@@ebolapie Recommending is Fun. Sooo?
@@nenmaster5218 Seeing completely irrelevant spam-adjascent comments is not fun, sooo?
@@nenmaster5218 I just said it comes off more like spam than anything else. People don't like being recommended political content out of the blue.
I have a lot of medical anxiety so I probably shouldn’t be watching these videos but I also like learning about stuff like this a lot. the fact that most of the patients in your stories survive have honestly alleviated a lot of my anxiety. the human body fights so hard to stay alive it’s amazing
Medical anxiety why?
@@producedby3am344 i don't really want to go into the nitty gritty details of my mental health on a youtube comment tbh
@@alexbradley2398 no need to explain yourself. I feel your pain. even the smallest symptoms of anything will erupt a panic attack and send you to the ER. Hope all is well!
I used to be really scared of medical things too, like I just hated the whole subject but now I’m slowly less afraid and becoming a little interested in it too lol
@@alexbradley2398Girl: “I have this thing I don’t want to bring up, but I am bringing it up right now.”
Guy: “What is that thing you don’t want to bring up?”
Girl: “I don’t want to talk about that thing that I just brought up and only I brought up.”
Girls in a nutshell
When I was in a worse place mentally, I purposefully overdosed on caffeine pills after just one made me feverish. It was an odd impulse and I still don’t get why I did it. I took two more in the morning, four more at lunch, and eight more a few hours after that, re-dosing whenever my symptoms eased off. 2-4 left me dizzy, nauseous, and shaking all over. After I took 8, the nausea + my inability to stop my muscles from contracting resulted in me vomiting all the water out of my body. Sometimes my abdomen would stay clenched for so long that I would get lightheaded from a lack of oxygen, because I couldn’t inflate my lungs. If my parents hadn’t found the bottle of caffeine pills hidden in my tissue box and taken me to the ER, I would have died of either dehydration or seizures.
I get weird when I’m reminded of it. Like now. Consider this a cautionary tale, I guess. Don’t be a dumbass and poison yourself just because you think the poison’s nonlethal. Anything can be lethal given the right circumstances.
that's not from being a dumbass though, just saying, your brain makes you do weird stuff when you're mentally unwell. honestly hoping you're doing better, take care ❤
Self harm can take a lot of different forms, I’m glad you’re in a better place now!
Almost overdosed on pre-workout once and literally felt like I was going to die. Vomiting, losing consciousness and spent the next few days in bed feeling like death. Can't imagine what 35000mg of caffeine would feel like. Poor guy is never going to look at a coffee the same again
I had the same experience. The feeling of being on the brink of death lasted several hours. I don't wish that to even my enemy lol
Bet you guys learned to follow the damn dosing instructions, huh?
...How is that almost overdosing?
Also how could you even remotely do that on preworkouts nowadays? The sheer amount you'd have to take would be a red flag to the dumbest person already. You look too young to have been in the legal DMAA days.
@@thisdude9363 the most ive ever taken was two scoops of GAT and that was hard on the body lol I wonder how much this dude took thinking it was a good idea
@@Th3UprightMan yuk DMAA, i remember taking jack3d when i was 13-15 when i worked out with my dad. The comedown was horrible.
I’m a biochemist in a medical device production company - THIS kind of stuff is why our procedures involve painstaking labeling practices and TWO people signing off before transferring things to other containers. It’s so easy for even the healthiest/brightest of humans to make simple errors like this…
@@korat7933
Sales getting you down?
It really is when it comes to same looking powders and hurrying up. My cat died couple weeks ago and my dog hasnt been same since
@@scoper7897
I'm sorry about your cat. :(
@@WhatIsSanity Thanks alot. My dog cries loud every night and i scream to him to stop or i throw him out he probably thinks i throw the cat out because of that but i cant sleep so im late for work often and my boss very mad too but he understands the situation
@@scoper7897
That's really hard, Scoper. I hope you and you're dog can mourn your lost friend and find a new normal. Take care.
Hey, i've found your channel just today and kind of went down a rabbit hole watching more and more videos. I just want to congratulate you for the level of production quality and good understandable structure. It's fascinating, educational and triggers a morbid curiosity. Thank you for your work!
Thank you, ET, I have been waiting for you all day.
Most sane gym enthusiast
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I took chemistry in college. One guy in one of my labs wanted to show me something. He took the ACS grade pure caffeine, had a stainless steel scoop and started eating it. I pointed out to him that it's poisonous but he just said "no it isn't". He ate around 30k MG of it. Went to the water fountain outside the lab to drink it down. Had to excuse himself to the washroom. Ambulance was called. Took him 6 months to recover. Dropped out after that.
you dropped out or he did?
@@ninab2509 my question as well
How dumb can someone be to actually do that?
@@Jtzkb The fact that he didn't take home the prize is an insult to our ancestors. All the money and resources used to save someone so that they can pollute the gene pool.
@@PoodleinacanPeople be cray. A kid in my biology class ate some formaldehyde soaked organs out of a dissected frog for $5.
This video saved my life, I was extremely low on potassium due to my adhd meds and I was getting heart issues on the daily. I now take potassium supplements and it helps greatly. Thank you chubby emu
A little dramatic….
@@WheresMyInhaler go puff your inhaler. Imagine being allergic to air
Dr. Bernard I love the way you do your channel you explain it so succinctly and well for lack of a better term dumb and down but not in a insulting way. Yeah you do man.
I love that this channel is both very serious and explains interesting problems in medicine, and has some of the funniest medical memes I've ever seen
This channel gives hyperintelemia xD Hyper meaning high. Intel, referring to intelligence, in this context meaning knowledge. And emia, meaning presence in blood. High knowledge presence in blood xD
Nice to have the levity when the subject matter gets pretty grim
@@Devo57 that’s exactly it!
Dude embraces the memes and I love it.
Do you love it? Really? Will you die for this channel? Will you take the final dive and dry scoop 35000 milligrams of caffeine to show your devotion? Only when your organs have become liquid shall we believe you.
I took too much caffeine once before going to the gym (just a little bit more than usual, nothing dramatic) and it was the worst feeling ever.
I was so anxious and couldn't focus at all. I felt my heart beating all the time.
I cannot even begin to imagine how this guy must have felt.
Yup, did the same too. My breathing was very fast and I had a a intense anxiety attack for a few minutes. Really hard to explain the feeling but something I will never want to experience ever again.
That's why I try to be careful whenever I use pre-workout powder for my own exercise. I try to follow the recommended dosage. The most I've ever was like two scoops, and that was because I had to get up super early in the morning to travel.
Something about pure caffeine like that is different than energy drinks or coffee. I can handle a LOT of coffee or Red Bull, but give me 2 No-Doz and I feel like I am gonna have a panic attack.
TFW when your legs are shaking so much you can’t walk properly
I usually drink 2-3 cups of regular/traditional coffee per week. Started taking 2-3 cups of coffee every time before cycling. I can feel my heart racing, my mind is in full focus and it triggers fight mode, noticed big cycling improvement. Only drawback is that i feel anxious at night, it takes time for caffeine to leave the body...
Besides your great delivery, I'm in nursing school so your videos make me happy to know medical terminology and help me appreciate AP classes.
Thank you for posting this. I just had a "Vaso syncope" happen at the VA recently, just realized it was actually most likely a seizure due to my caffeine abuse. When I woke up after the blood draw my clothes were absolutely soaked in sweat and I was absolutely miserable...
This video and information might have saved my life. I'm limiting my caffeine intake now.
A rare case of a patient who had the right idea, but just had a complete and unintentional lapse of awareness. Fortunately, as soon as he had enough lucidity to answer questions coherently, he was able to provide doctors in the ER with exactly the information they needed to help him as expediently as possible, and we got to see a good ending to this story of a patient making a _full recovery_ and going back to the thing they were doing, that they still have the right idea about.
I don't think he had the right idea, as they remarked at the end of the video it'd have been better to just have a balanced diet without the supplements.
@@StratOCE clearly you don't lift
In the actual story, the man died. Emu modified it here for educational purposes.
@@miteshkumar5557 my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
@@miteshkumar5557 Where did you find that? I want to read about it.
Full recovery after downing 90 DAYS worth of caffeine... This guy heard colours and saw sounds, and lived to tell the tale
I like how 368 cups of coffee's worth of caffeine is 90 days' worth to you (and most people).
Granted, I drink 2-3 glasses of soda per day, but I'm also immune to caffeine, so it doesn't matter to me if the soda is caffeine free or not.
I respect and celebrate your use of "u" in colour! And also respect the content of your comment! May you enjoy 90 days worth of regular caffeine consumption, then many more!
@@Bacteriophagebs LOL! Did you learn nothing from this video? You are not "immune" to caffeine. And if you think you really are, drink 50g. Show this guy he was just being a pussy. Drink 100g and show us all we don't know anything about biochemistry!
@@thirstfast1025 That was the most polite comment I think I've ever read on here, thank you very much!
Being stuck in Scotland, I often forget that my spelling might seem silly to my brethren across the pond...
Aluminium! Manoeuvre! Humour! 😂
@@Bacteriophagebs they may be going off the recommended maximum of around 400 per day 😅 I'm also an avid soda drinker (with the rare coffee thrown in sometimes) so I can't really judge haha
I heaved a sigh of relief when I heard the words - "full recovery". I had a colleague pass out from a caffeine overdose caused by his over-dependence on energy drinks during all-night coding sessions for a particularly rushed project. Thankfully, he was able to make - "a recovery", but blood flow obstruction during his stroke caused some permanent damage to his body. I'm glad ET was luckier.
I wonder how much caffeine your friend had that cause the OD - glad he is okay.
@@snowflake4656 Not sure. The housekeeping staff cleared out the trash before I could see. Must have been a bunch, though. I used to see him down 2-3 on an average 8-hour workday.
as a student nurse these videos are amazing not only are you entertaining but i feel like i’m involved in a sort of heath care study without that “frick i gotta study” feeling thank you the chubbiest of emus
As a chemist, we not only label our bottles but we also color code them to differentiate between drastically different chemicals. It can be as simple as wrapping a colored strip of tape around the neck or base of the bottle; somewhere highly visible and around the entire perimeter so that there is no way you will miss it. Stay safe everyone!
When I refill the different containers for my morning musli, there's only one open container and refill bag at any time. Not for any particular reason, but after watching this video I think it's definitely a good habit to already have for when I might be handling more dangerous stuff.
@@rolfs2165 Political-Study should never be boring,
it should be done like so many RUclipsrs teach Science or History
or This-or-That. So here, have my Random Recommendation
named 'Some More News'. Or Hbomberguy'?
@@nenmaster5218 Wat.
Also, as a chemist, knowing the rough density, smell, consistency and flow of your powders is key when you get lazy with labelling ;)
Oh !
colored containers.
Just like things used for children who can not read.
It must be nice and comforting to know that you work around and with children.
I think your video just told me what happened some months back when I went to the ICU with aFib. I had been consistently taking daily energy supplement mixes and was doing so for years. The caffeine and your explanation of what it does to your heart cells and muscles make sense for why I had irregular rhythm. I stopped almost all caffeine intake except for sometimes coffee now. And knock on wood I haven’t had another episode or heart palpitations like that night.
That’s so well explained! And well cut, a good watch
I drank eight energy drinks before lunchtime when I was in my late teens and I legitimately thought I was going to die. I was unable to get up and my heart was doing some really weird things. This poor guy had more than twenty times the amount of caffeine I’d estimate was in that many energy drinks. He is lucky to be alive.
35g of caffeine = 218x 0,5L Monster Energies
Or a measly 109 liters of Monster at once😄
Sounds like when my friend (14 at the time) chugged down a BFC of monster (320mg caffeine) in about 5 minutes. On an empty stomach. Stomach pain, cold sweat, heart racing. He ended up fine the next afternoon after he finally ate some food
I had 7 energy drinks at a night club in one night didn't do much. Just made my eccy high better for 10 minutes.
Damn. No wonder gen z were consuming tidepods. Common sense is dead lol
@@ipassingthrough yeah nobody actually understands that there are consequences that come with overconsumption of anything
Two lessons for everybody here: always label everything carefully, and don’t feel bad if you overdose on caffeine compared to a guy whom overdosed on 35,000 mg of caffeine-I once went to the emergency room for a high heart rate due to dehydration and a lack of potassium probably partly due from caffeine, although I can now show others this video and say that I’m not as addicted to caffeine as others might like to say.
i'll drink to that!
I once went to the hospital just from the noradrenaline alone caused by a panic attack caused by stress of tests at the university. I never had a panic attack before, my heart rate increased without reason and I got worried and went driving to the hospital (not a wise idea, but still, I was driving when it happened).
They ended up injecting rivotril (aka benzodiazepine) on my veins to calm me down. I ended up losing the test obliviously, I couldn't drive after being sleepy from it. So I got up from the hospital, not in a sane mind, walked out, and ended up sleeping on the car. I don't know why they dispensed me, I guess they didn't knew I came by driving.
The car was parked without the hand brake and I almost crushed a person that leaned on the car. That was stupid, don't lean on others cars, you never know if they are parked correctly, and it only needs a gentle push to crush someone, I woke up from their cursing, even on rivotril I couldn't have a deep sleep.
All of that without abusing caffeine, but I got the same secondary effects described on the video.
@@monad_tcp , I’m surprised that the hospital allowed you to be released while you still had Rivotril in your system.
@@NicoleCzarnecki Maybe I escaped , I don't really remember much, I remember hallucinating and getting on my car and thinking.
I guess I'll sleep here because I can't drive, this is not normal.
I went other times to that hospital, they put things on you, and sometimes leave you alone in a waiting room.
Your doctor obviously has to dispense you.
I mean, you could just walk up and get out. Specially since there was just a door, no security or anything, it was a door that opens from the outside.
If someone enters and leave it open, you can get out, as simple as that.
You do have to return a paper signed by the doctor, so they push a button to open the door, I think I just escaped.
It was a place I already knew and went several times. Not far fetched that I could sleep-walk out.
This is a great video. Thank you for breaking down all the medical jargon.
As a caffeine sensitive person, this amount would have made my heart explode out of my chest like aliens. Hard to imagine the terrible suffering he made it through.
I'm super sensitive to it. I can't even tolerate chocolate. That amount would kill me instantly.
@@bowm0 lmao weak-ass genetics
i have the opposite, the other day i drank 14 decaf espresso shots but someone replaced the decaf with real coffee, which hurted a little. I slept 4 hours later.
@@talpa6969
What he had would be more like 400 Espresso shots.
yeah lol i cant even have a coke now as even that small amount of acffiene destroys me and makes me ill. i used to in the past take a 1000mg of caffiene a day for fat burn but now im super sensitive for some reason. the last time i drank caffiene was i had a monster as i was tired and couldnt grab a coffee. the monster made me burst into a sweat laying in a puddle on the floor and my resting heart rate was so high i was gagging and couldnt breath. baically i drank tonnes of water to get it out of me and felt like death for days on end having horrible stomach cramps. im gonna say caffiene can for some reason become and intollerance overnight for some and could cause big problems. i have known a few people that have had heart attacks from caffiene as they had energy drink addictions.
im glad to learn at least that he didn't deliberately consume that much caffeine. im no longer surprised to hear about what people eat and drink just from watching this channel
My reaction too. But I better understand why my chemistry professor was so OCD about neatness, measuring & labels.
@@angelachouinard4581 OCD is an actual mental condition - what you're describing is just standard perfectionism.
@@Cat-pw5qr Is it really perfectionism when accurate measuring/labeling is of critical importance tho? Either way good on the professor for being vigilant about it, uncertainty is not something you need in chemistry
Same. I figured someone wanted to one up Rich Piana in the stim department
@@angelachouinard4581 that, and to reduce the possibility of something unintentionally exploding;)
First time watching your video Dr. and now subscribed. Keep educating lads. Thanks
These videos always shock me when they survive. As someone who struggles with remembering chemistry, the resilience and resourcefulness of the human body is surprisingly complex and impressive.
I'm a chemist, mislabeling is probably the most common error I've seen made in the lab, usually just a typo or an incorrect lot number. This sort of mistake is bound to happen if someone is mixing thier own pre-workout like that, just a matter of time and severity.
I don't think I ever want to have a jar of caffeine powder near me after watching this lol. Can't mislabel it if you don't have it!
@@1000_Gibibit Gym bro actually lived after consuming 35g of caffeine! Regardless of how scared you are or he was, he's going down in gym bro history lol.
And how do you guys do to systematically try to minimize this sort of issue? I assume it's impossible to null it, but there's probably a few ways to decrease the odds
@@rayres1074 different colors for containing stuff. Usually you have a sticker attached to the jar (or whatever it is) and you throw the jar when it's empty so you don't mix things up. When we do some clinical experiments on proteins and we gotta use different components for a Western Blot for example, we have components made on different hours by different persons and usually it's instantly written down on the jar when we finished creating something (for example you create a SDS 10% and when you stock it you instantly write it down on the jar before starting the PBS to be sure you don't mix things up otherwise you will fuck up your reaction and some days of work)
@@rayres1074 Typically it's done with scannable labels on containers and tubes. My lab currently doesn't have a system like that so we need another chemist to verify any label before we apply it. Both chemists will put their initials on the label to show who made it. Before we manufacture anything, another chemist will also sign off on the batch record to confirm no mistakes were made when it was being setup. These are specific to my lab but there are also universal labeling conventions that are done in every lab, typically involving dangerous chemical and the labels that a re required.
As someone who (deliberately) took 2000 mg caffeine once and felt like I was literally about to die, I can barely imagine what almost 20x that would feel like.
What were you trying to achieve by taking 2g of caffeine?
why'd you take 2000 mg of caffeine tho
@@maimtubeTV I can see doing this as a result of being sleep deprived and feeling like doing something to really wake up and to Finally become Wide awake.
At that point you might as well just take adderall lol.
Hope everything's okay
Cannot believe he survived!! Amazing!!
This is one of my favorite channels!
Ive had a caffeine crash while getting a migraine at the same time, godbless this man for surviving a version 10x more worse than what I experienced
The headaches associated with the overuse of caffeine and with caffeine withdrawal are not forms of migraines. Caffeine is used to abort migraines, so it's practically unheard of as a migraine trigger, but theoretically anything one ingests could be a potential trigger.
@@HenriFaust oh yea I know, I was getting a migraine and then I crashed from caffeine. I suffer migraines genetically and I drank like 3 dr peppers before it hit and it was the worse experience ever
@@HenriFaust I don't think caffeine is unheard of as a migraine trigger. I have no idea where you heard that. It's on the list of possible triggers on the headache foundation site. The trigger can be drinking it at all, changing the amount you consume suddenly, or triggering a different condition which sets off an inflammation response that can sometimes trigger a migraine later.
@@HenriFaust caffeine can absolutely cause migraines in large doses.
I'm walking proof.... happens anytime I overdo caffeine...or any OTC stimulant.
@@HenriFaust I get complex migraines and I discovered that caffeine helps but I also found out that if I am dehydrated, caffeine can make the migraine worse. I also learned something recently. I was taking a pre workout mix that had caffeine but also L-carnitine and L-tyrosine. After a hard workout, I got the aura and numbness and the headache, one of the worst. I made the connection with the pre workout and looked up side effects of the ingredients. They also cause sleeplessness, restlessness, and interfere with thyroid function. Most people blame the caffeine but need to investigate the other ingredients and drink plenty of water.
For reference, one 8oz cup of coffee is about 100mg. Thus he basically drank 350 cups of coffee worth of caffeine, or in easier to understand units, 3.5 times the amount of coffee Fry drank in that one episode of Futurama
“I couldn’t sleep. I was up all night thinking of coffee!”
holy shit haha
But did he become the flash before his heart stopped?
Ha, when I read the first few words of your second sentence, that’s where my mind went right away. Futurama
I usually drink 4-6 espresso each day. That is about 20oz espresso. I can feel my heart pumping faster and heavier for about an hour…
I'm about to cite you for a class paper because you're the reason I know that caffeine displaces adenosine in the body.
Love your videos! It's nice to see you doing well after all these years--I remember us briefly talking back in 2015 or so, and not really going anywhere with it, but I'm proud of you and how far your RUclips journey has come. Maybe we can chat again, sometime.
Wow!!! Love the way you explain Sir!!!!
Absolutely excellent video!!! 💚❤💙💜💖💗💚
Hi Chubby Emu! Me and my brother are huge fans of your vids. A week ago he unfortunately fell ill due to sweet potato poisoning (we grow our own in our backyard) and the memes we do when he was hospitalized kept him in high spirits and laughing it off. We joked about how he will end up in a chubby emu video, a man ate homegrown sweet potatoes, this is what happened to his organs.
Luckily he has made a full recovery now. Cheers!
How did he get sweet potato poisoning? I'm glad he made a full recovery!
I also got potato poisoning definitely not as bad as you’re brother, but it felt like I had just chugged a fifth of whiskey and spent the rest of the night throwing up over the toilet.
You got to "cure" root vegetables. Basically dry out the skins. .
glad it's a full recovery and not *a* recovery
as hobby gardeners we should probably steer clear off root vegetables.. I never had the guts to plant carrots, potatoes etc and your comment definitely reaffirms it. safer with tomatoes, eggplants, fruits etc
It is really a good ending of this type of story when you hear the narrator saying "he/she was able to make a full recovery." It just puts smile on my face, and lightens up my heart, every time I hear him saying it.
Yeah -Mr White- Medical Staff,
Yeah Science!
Still, you cant help but wonder if the "full" recovery was just NOW, but the damage that was done can have long term later negative effects and they might not be obvious then they were caused by what happened. His heart, kidneys, organs, brain were all negatively affected and damaged.
It’s so depressing when he says “‘A’ recovery”.
Yeah, I wasn't sure if this guy was gonna make it when he was talking about the dead muscle remnants messing up his kidneys and how his heart kept stopping.
He took a dose thousands of times than the one needed to die,I think he meant 5700mg and even so it would already be waaaaaaaay to much,as in the sites I consulted varied from 50mg to 180 mg as the fatal dose of caffeine,now compare that with 57000mg!!
Thanks man, I was just about to do this
wow, these videos are very good for recalling physiology for vet students (or med students if U are one). Entertaining and educational! Also crazy how basics we learn we really need to have down pat for situational like this!
As a hemodialysis technician, every time the kidneys are affected, I just think, "oh, no, they're gonna need dialysis." Thank God he didn't need it for life, but for others, they don't know what they've lost til it's too late. I hope he takes care of himself, and those kidneys.
What would you suggest to do to have a healthy kidney? I'm being serious
@@lalotz I've read somewhere that fatty liver disease is one of the most common liver problems, it can be really dangerous if neglected and can lead to serious complications. And many people have it, even young and not fat people...
So yeah. Eating healthy is the key, who would of thought it.
@@lalotz high blood pressure silently destroys your kidneys over time. Get that taken care of if yours is high. That’s what gets the bodybuilders on steroids
@@lalotz go to your doctor and ask What is my serum creatinine level and wheter or not I have protein in the urine . If both test are normal , then you are good .
I'm on dialysis full time and would not wish it on anyone I won't be on it for life though as i'm on the kidney transplant list.
I'm for once genuinely glad he's okay because he didn't try the last tiktok trend and just misread a label.
He wasn't poisoning himself on purpose like the others omg
Poor man, glad to hear he recovered..
So relieved!!
Same, I find it hard empathizing with people who put themselves in critical danger for the sake of doing tiktok challenges...
Oh good! I didn't really wanna continue watching because an honest accident like this made me sad. I'm glad to know he was okay!!
@@machinismus He did a really smart thing by dialing 911 soon enough, and giving them the info they needed to help him, and they were able to dialysis the caffiene out of him in time. WWHHEEWW!!! I always get tears of relief at the words "full recovery"!
Caffeine has always been easier for me to process due my ADHD. In many ways, caffeine is a good substitute for my medication since while the medication targets parts of the brain that lack dopamine, caffeine is more of a shotgun which could still hit those parts of the brain that need the stimulation. While I don’t take caffeine as much anymore, this is a very fascinating watch
Wonderful work!!
I love the representation of hyperglycemia as millions of tiny sugar cubes floating through your bloodstream!
I think it was made with Dall-E
If you're going to do this, consider color-coding your ingredients. Whenever you mix your stuff, make sure you have a chart that clearly spells out your own color code, and make sure all labels are clear, visible, and legible. Even then, you're not just paying for pre-mixed supplements at the store, you're also paying for the guarantee that they're going to be mixed CORRECTLY.
Yeah I thought this. If he stored all the white powder in white containers it’s no wonder he got mixed up.
Carpenters have a good rule: measure twice, cut once. Critical steps should be done with extra scrutiny.
If this is based off the case i think it is, the problem wasn't labeling. There was an issue with the weight scale. Your idea of clear colour coded labels is a very good idea. Calibration of tools matters just as much as clear labels.
The FDA in the states doesn't garantee things on supplements. We often find measurements are off and in some cases the ingredients aren't always transparent.
@@Ellie-gp9dg you can misread a label but you can't mistake a color
If you're going to supplement with caffeine, buy it in pill form, not powder form, and leave it in its original packaging. You'll never confuse it for your BCAAs because it's in a completely different form.
So glad he survived !
God Bless Those Who Saved Him !
I really like the way everything is explained
I'm glad that ET finally returned home as he always wanted.
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not the time to be making this joke dude
@@heiidii dark humor exists, get used to it
@@heiidii 🥱🙄 you’ll live, it’s not that deep. In fact…it’s pretty hilarious
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Thank you so much for this video on what this man did I take thyroid medicine for underactive thyroid I know how I felt before I took thyroid medicine I was tired all the time and very depressed and I didn't know why once I was given thyroid medicine which is nothing more than a pill I feel so much better my mother had hypoactive thyroid also and my grandmother so I guess it's in our family but thank you so much for this experiment which I think it turned out to be but I'm glad he lived and I hope he stays healthy from now on thank you.🙂
I love listening to these videos, they're rlly interesting and explained so well that even I can understand what's going on!! 😂😊
I read about a case where a hospital accidentally infused like 9 grams of caffeine in to a woman, thinking it was something else, and it is one of the only known cases of a fatal caffeine overdose.
Technically, wouldn't it also be the only known case of manslaughter by caffeine?
@@blunderingfool well, womanslaughter actually...🙃
@@blunderingfool it would probably be closer to criminally negligent homicide, depending on how the mix up occurred.
"woopsie"
I accidently took a heaping spoonful of pure caffeine power thinking it was creatine. Suffice to say, I thought I was going to die. It was a very dysphoric 18 hours.
When I was taking my class to get certified as an EMT, they said that the mark of true mastery in a subject is the ability to relay that information in a way so that anyone could understand that. You’re videos are informative, fascinating, incredibly easy to understand, and a great tool to get people interested in the practical uses of chemistry, anatomy, and pathophysiology. You are an absolute gem to the medical community
You going paramedic?
He isn't videos.
@@ialien2077 I’m videos 😳
Then who was video???
@@ialien2077 I AM VIDEO!
You are an excellent teacher. I hope you are teaching classes in medical school.
Glad he survived! What a legend!
I’ve tried to limit my pre-workout for this reason. I stupidly took an extra scoop once and I learned my lesson. I’ve never been more anxious panicky. My heart wouldn’t stop racing I really wanted to go to the ER.
Yeah fuck that
Levy, Presenting to the Emergency Room...
@@GOD_SHINIGAMI.07
☝️🤨
Once he gets the medical bill he'll prolly need the ER again. lol
Is pre-workout extremely bitter or something? Caffeine powder is unbearably bitter, I don't know how he wouldn't have realized something was off from that.
I love your videos thank you so much for all the time and effort put into them
It's crazy that this came up in my recommendations. I went to high school with someone who did almost the same thing. Unfortunately he decided to go home since he wasn't feeling well, and he died. He was a really good kid and this happened just a few weeks before graduation, so it's something I think about a lot.
Damn
pretty crazy coincidence indeed
Its a tragic situation when people, just trying to be healthy, make a an honest error that ends up harming them. Sorry to about this.
@@davidoppenheimer7842 A lot of people thing you get healthier by adding more of healthy stuff, but that's not true. Health is all about balance, too much or too little of something can kill you. When it comes to concentrated chemicals one should be very careful, it's like playing with fire.
@@davidoppenheimer7842 caffeine isn't healthy. How on earth was the kid being healthy? Nothing they did was healthy.
Very informative, thanks ❤
9:40 - The mitochondria is powerhouse of cell xD
As someone who's heart freaks out after a cup of coffee ...this is terrifying
Fr I had to stop drinking coffee because it was giving me bad panic attacks so this is like my worst nightmare lol
If your heart freaks out after a cup of coffee, you probably might have anger issues or anxiety. For me, punching a bag for a good while lets out the aggression and now I can tolerate more caffeine.
Seriously, the other day I made some coffee from a concentrate after only having had tea for a while and it hit me all at once and for about 10-20 seconds I felt like I was dying and got crazy tunnel vision and couldn't move. Absolutely bizarre, I thought I was having a stroke. It's never happened to me before.
Put a paper face of someone you hate so bad, put it on a punching bag and throw your fists harder than before. You'll able to handle the caffeine really well
drink decaf. I hate caffeine now, sleep mood and anxiety levels are much better without it.
Wow, I wasn't expecting him to survive after all that. Glad to know he made a full recovery.
Yeah, it's crazy what someone can survive if they get treatment early. I tried to kill myself by taking 500mg alprazolam, 100mg fentanyl, 5g GHB as well as some heroin & alcohol. I also had hypokalemia like the person in this video, but mine took days to resolve, even with the doctors putting me on a KCl drip and KCl tablets by mouth. I thought for sure that there was no way anyone could survive that much all at once.
@@internetuser8922 hope you feel better now.
That sounds like such a horrible ordeal. Oh my goodness ! So sorry
Spoilers!
@@internetuser8922 ❤
Holy fuck I haven’t watched one second of this video yet but I already know this one is gonna be a hoot. The difficulty involved in consuming such an absurd amount of caffeine has me kind of amazed
Excellent video!!
It's nice to see one where the patient did everything right. There were more precautions he could have taken, sure, but he wasn't doing anything stupid, he called 911 as soon as he recognized he was very ill, and he told the doctors what they needed to know, leading to a full recovery in a situation where someone less prepared could have easily died.
It's always a great day when Chubbyemu uploads
Not a great day for Mr. ET though
Terrifying happiness.
gotta love the music at the start of every video
Glad the guy made a full recovery.
That is the equivalent of 368 cups of coffee is one scoop. Fucking insane how he lived, the body is magnificent.
It's like that one episode of Futurama where Fry has a hundred coffees :')
So the limit is 367
He lived because they got it out of his body though, not like it had any way of coping with that amount.
@@walterroux291 where everything slows down for him cause he's moving so fast.
@@walterroux291 It's like watching that episode at 3.68x speed. 😀
It's always nice to know that someone made full recovery to a healthy life after being in a dangerous medical condition.
Yeah some of these don't endbthey way he presents them
I think he should include a dsiclaimer with the word "full recovery" (or he already has done that in some of the videos) as this doesn't mean long term effects that do not yet show are impossible.
So he could still have damaged something longterm, but at the moment have no problem and seem healthy again.
A bit like the video about the girl that acidentally ate her dads eddibles and made a "full recovery".
Universities in europe have shown that non adults that are exposed to a single use of THC (and that have a predisposition for psychosis or depression) can devellop a psychosis or depression. Single use! But it doesn't mean that that shows upt immediately 5 minutes after the exposure to the substance. And so it can look like a full recovery for the moment, and a few days or weeks later you got a problem long term.
@@nirfz Sometimes he says "recovery" rather than a "full recovery". Maybe he doesn't intend to distinguish them, but saying "full recovery" implies that long-term damage is minimal, while just "recovery" implies that the patient may still suffer from lingering effects of their medical problem.
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I love how ET got a full beard after the couple of days in the hospital. That must have been a bad trip!
I have two M.S. degrees (two B.S as well, not to mention multiple certifications) and decided against my MD/PhD due to finances. I’d rather my children have an education than my old ass trying to reach heights I hadn’t.
I’d lost some love for science and felt so defeated that none of it even mattered. Then I found your channel; technically, my 12 year old son (at the time) found you and said, “hey mom, you would LOVE chubbyemu!”
I went to check out the channel and saw that I’d already subscribed some years earlier. It took my son to remind me how much I love medicine/a&p while it took my old self realizing I’d always loved it, I simply needed a reminder. Thank you for your work.
For heavy stimulant overdoses(cocaine/amphetamines),the first line of treatment is IV diazepam(a benzodiazepine). I would imagine the same could be done for a severe caffeine OD since benzos rapidly reduce electrical activity in the brain. They basically reverse the effects of stimulants. Although at a dosage like the one he took I could imagine additional treatments might still be necessary.
At such a high dosage though, benzos can only occupy the receptors for a few hours at most before tapering off. In heavy overdoses like caffeine at that amount, you're only adding more byproducts that will put more strain on the liver as the enzymes ( Cytochrome P450) are constantly working to try and metabolise it which could cause further damage to the liver, renal system (worst case scenario) or even have less effectiveness. I'd hedge a bet and say that certain stimulants have a very short half and are excreted quite quickly from the body, and thus drugs like benzos are applicable when given through an IV
You make a good point saying that it could be applicable to a smaller scale caffeine overdose
@@shad0wVA There a benzodiazepines with a very long half life (12-36 hours), which could prove useful in a situation like this.
@@wagwanpiftingwhatsurbbmpin1673 Yes.Diazepam’s is over 40 hours so there will be plenty of time for the stimulant to leave the system,Caffeine especially. (4-6 hour half life I believe.)
@@justinscaffidi3570 at that high a dose i imagine processing that would take longer tho, no? bc it wouldnt be used up since u have a limited amount of neurotransmitters it can bind to
@@uuh4yj43 benzodiazepines bind to different receptors and release different neurotransmitters than caffeine. And the more you take the more binding affinity it will have so it will just be more powerful. And since it’s going into the bloodstream directly there won’t be any delay. It’s after long periods of time of continued use that the receptors can desensitize. I highly advise against that however because benzos can be extremely addictive if not only taken on occasion. If you have anxiety from all stims in general look into low dose ssris.
I can't imagine how awful that would be. I've had s few times when I was a kid where I had just a little too much caffeine and I felt absolutely awful. Taking as much as he did must had been a truly miserable experience.
I don’t think miserable is the right word i believe you meant horrific.
Probably more terrifying than miserable.
A few months ago, I suffered a hypertensive crisis where my blood pressure shot up like crazy. The feeling of doom, the tachycardia, the sweating, the excessive anxiety, the confusion, everything described here in the video is correct. But I'm guessing this guy's condition was much, much worse. Having tachycardia alone is super distressing, now imaging having both tachycardia AND arrhythmia.
This video was not very fun to listen to.
Man died a couple times, he's feeling just a little blue
I’ve overdosed on caffeine in college studying for finals in 2008, my senior year, and I didn’t even know it was possible. But I had caffeine from 3 different sources and worked out and after that experience is when I developed panic disorder 😢 it was absolutely no where close to this level
Wow, now I know why potassium is so important. I presented to the er yesterday with very low levels. I take stimulants for my adhd too. I may consider taking a potassium supplement
I love how you explain all of the biochemical processes! I wish we had access to videos like these when I was in university 20 years ago 😅
I’ve found the idea of getting pure caffeine powder to be very appealing, but the idea that one tiny bit of human error would be the difference between life and death has kept me from doing that.
you could try just getting caffeine pills to start with/stick with since it's more certain
Try a handful of blueberries before you workout
@@chronicler2313 lol
@@iggywow
I do that. Took me a while to find a decent brand, but it works great for me and now I can get caffeine without all the extra sugar
Maybe 20 years ago, a company started selling "caffeine shakers," little tins of caffeine powder that you could hake to deliver one dose of caffeine into your drink or whatever, one dose being the amount in 8 oz. of coffee or 12 oz. of soda. A few news outlets freaked the hell out about this and how people could so easily OD on caffeine using these things. I can imagine those journalists just fainting to see big bags of scoopable caffeine being sold in health stores.
For those wondering the text at 9:40 says "The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell" and the one at 9:43 says "-emia means presence in blood"
I like it when people have to work for the easter eggs. hehe cheers.
I had to slow the video down to 0.25x then take a screen recording and basically go through frame by frame
You sir are a hero
@@joshb_1111 If you ever want to do that in the future just pause and use the , . keys.
They go frame by frame on youtube so you don't have to screen record or adjust playback speed.
@@nocare I would have but I was using RUclips on my mobile with no computer nearby!
God damn this is like a biochemistry epic; enthralling from start to finish t'was.
Had me glued to my seat
I'm so happy to hear those words "able to make a full recovery".
I love this channel not just for the interesting stories but also the educational content about the mechanisms and machinery of the body. It's so interesting.
I'm amazed he made a full recovery after his heart stopped. It goes to show how great the medical care we have is.
Gotta love human development
You get what you pay for.And americans pay a lot.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 every one pays a lot, in form of huge income taxes EVERY MONTH, on in the form of a solid health assurance 👍
Lol the ER sewed my Dads toe back on sideways just week and a half ago.
@@naamadossantossilva4736 Doesn't the US have the highest rate of death in childbirth of all modern Western countries?
Man I was so happy to know,
he made it back safe,
from the door to death.
I think my favorite recurring thing in these videos is what I can only describe as the “fuck around and find out” music when they’re first making their mistake but don’t realize it yet
There's actually a way to avoid this. I've worked with trainers before and they use dry food coloring to color the different chemicals.
I don't know which they used exactly so I'd probably check up on it being inert in the chemicals before doing it myself, but it sounds like a good way to be doubly sure.
just buy the caffeine in pill form
buy anything *poisonous* in a way that makes the serving size obvious
Probably stuff like beetroot powder or natural dyes are a good way to mark these things
Flavored gelatin or drink packets are cheap too.
Unless you accidentally put the wrong color in the wrong substance, also 😅.
Or maybe just keep things in their original packaging. Why overcomplicate matters?
Me snorting pre-workout on the way to the gas station for sushi:
Ooh, grab me some nachos while you're there!
And a bowl of sus macaroni and cheese
I had a similar experience with too much caffeine.
This was around February of 2023. I worked for a company that supplied vending machine snacks and repair services for vending machines. I woke up at 5 in the morning and clocked in at 7. During this time, I had to cover a job for someone in a giant refrigerator for two weeks. I hated this job, but still had to get through it. It was exhausting and sometimes maddening.
For context, this particular company also made in house sandwiches, hot dogs and other foods like that in large bulk, sometimes up to 800 at a time. Throughout the eight hour shift, I had to sort out all of them to assigned drivers who would deliver these food items the following morning. Math was never my strong suit, and working in an industrial sized fridge, along with having to count these sandwiches one by one, and as an autistic person, it was very maddening to me, and left me mentally and sometimes physically exhausted. This was a big fridge, enough for a small crowd of people to squeeze into.
For the first three days, it was hell. Then, there was something I saw in our break room vending machine: Java Monster.
After seeing that, I guzzled a can a day. Then on week two, it was two a day, along with any mountain dew I had to drink with lunch. I think you can tell where this is going.
One day, I was on my laptop, and was watching a video. I forget what it was. Suddenly, I felt my head spinning a little, and my body was shaking like a generator, and my heart rate was pumping out like a machine gun. Tumbling down the stairs, I thought I was going to have a heart attack and pleaded to mom. She knew what was happening, having 22 years in the medical industry. She told me to sit down and shake it off, and let it wear off.
It thankfully eventually did, but I had health problems over the course of two weeks, along with the effects of not eating enough.
I obviously did not have it as bad as this guy, but I am telling you now, caffeine poisoning is real, and it is agony. I have never touched another energy drink since.
My experience was a long time ago when i was a pizza delivery driver. I had to work a double which is basically all day. I didn't sleep well the night before, so worried that a bit of sleep dep would put me at risk, I started pounding energy drinks. Caffeine apparently doesn't have an effect on me as far as being "awake" and alert. I started off with 2 red bulls, nothing. Then got a Rockstar. Then got a Monster. Then got a 5 hour energy. Basically desperate to just have me alert and focused at the days' job in hand.
My last delivery of the night, I'm at a gated apartment complex but they never gave us the code. That's when my heart started dangerously racing as if I needed to at least get out and move around. Sorta panicking. Finally some other car comes and opens the gate, I drop off the food, rush back to the store and rush home because it's starting to get worse. Talk about jitters x10.
I had to slam down a few beers (I know that's not safe) but it being a depressant, I finally was able to just relax and not feel like I was gonna go into cardiac arrest
Light work
Having taken to much preworkout before this is truly the stuff of nightmares
What a terrible form of sickness caffeine toxicity is. Makes me queasy just thinking about this.
I like how it feels in my body but it can be over done
Have you tried food? It's pretty good. Can even come with protein and shit.
@@Tetus7 sometimes it’s not enough and you’ll get full. especially if you’re into body building you’re gonna need that boost of protein.
@@capitcha you don't make sense. pre workout doesn't have thousands of calories and it doesn't make sense to consume thousands right before a workout
I've never felt more glad to have gotten over my caffeine addiction.
ill never quit
It's caffeine Levi, not heroin.
Any advice? I've found it so bloody hard to quit..
@@Lee-wk3cb it’s an addiction
Quitting caffeine for 4 years during high schools
Poor guy, I know how it feels just after way too much caffeine. I can't even imagine the pain. Glad he made it.
Wolfgang is great. His expressions are sometimes hilarious and sometimes freightening.
A single 500ml energy drink (160mg caffeine) makes my heart race. 35 thousand mg?! I can't even imagine how that would feel.
And to think there are people that stay up for days getting high off of stimulants… I dont want to imagine how their heart feels
Most caffeine trip reports are around 1500-6000mg, some of those ended up in the hospital close to cardiac arrest. Apparently 8000mg is considered a fatal dose. 35 grams is an insane amount.
@@zoniyat8519 as someone who once took stimulants (the legal kind) for ADHD, I agree. Glad I quit and started focusing on behavioral therapy 👌🏽
@@android584 Its roughly 200mg/ki if I remember correctly for the LD50(i was about 50ki and I did 10,500)
160mg is not much for the average coffee drinker. That would be around 2 cups of coffee. If you don't regularly consume caffeine, 160mg is going to feel very potent.