Harold Wilson Night part 3

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • On Saturday 16 February 2013, BBC Parliament devoted its Saturday evening to a series of programmes about Harold Wilson - on the 50th anniversary of Wilson's election as Leader of the Labour Party. www.bbc.co.uk/p...
    In this third part:
    • Conference '75. Harold Wilson's last speech in the 'Parliamentary Report' to the Labour Party Conference. Original tx 30.9.75.
    • 31:02 Harold Wilson's Resignation Interview. David Holmes interviews Harold Wilson following his shock resignation. Original tx 16.3.76.
    • 45:00 David Holmes Interview. David Holmes looks back on his time as BBC political editor during the Wilson years.
    • 53:08 Wilson's World. Peter Snow debates Harold Wilson with Baroness Williams, Lord Donoughue and Lord Hurd.

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  • @petergreen2552
    @petergreen2552 5 лет назад +28

    Harold Wilson_ the last truly independent prime minister the UK ever elected.

    • @MarkHarrison733
      @MarkHarrison733 Год назад +2

      Every Prime Minister did what Washington wanted, beginning with Churchill.

    • @dianethibault4265
      @dianethibault4265 Год назад +1

      @@MarkHarrison733 your tinfoil hat is slipping

  • @peterbradshaw8018
    @peterbradshaw8018 5 лет назад +26

    Much of the legislative work was pretty impressive.

    • @hughobrien4964
      @hughobrien4964 5 лет назад +1

      Peter Bradshaw bar cancelling the channel tunnel

    • @peterbradshaw8018
      @peterbradshaw8018 5 лет назад +3

      Remind me what was the rational behind that. Finance engineering feasibility.....

    • @jonathanbuss7538
      @jonathanbuss7538 2 года назад +3

      except decriminalising abortion and homosexuality which was truly shameful.

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 Год назад +2

      @@jonathanbuss7538 so blackmailing people was ok ?

    • @dianethibault4265
      @dianethibault4265 Год назад

      @@briandelaney9710 you take risks in life..... what life is about, isnt it

  • @bobwebb1348
    @bobwebb1348 4 года назад +10

    Great speech.

  • @andrewgilesrobinson5664
    @andrewgilesrobinson5664 3 года назад +13

    We need him back

    • @SuperFerdie1965
      @SuperFerdie1965 Год назад

      He's knocking on a bit now, aged 106!

    • @Psmith-ek5hq
      @Psmith-ek5hq 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@SuperFerdie1965 Well he would be if he was alive.

    • @SuperFerdie1965
      @SuperFerdie1965 6 месяцев назад

      @@Psmith-ek5hq
      Twas a joke!

    • @ThomasDanielsen1000
      @ThomasDanielsen1000 3 месяца назад

      Wilson was a mediocre prime minister at best, so why would you want him back?

    • @SuperFerdie1965
      @SuperFerdie1965 3 месяца назад

      @@ThomasDanielsen1000
      Not entirely. He won four elections and was the outstanding student of his year while at Oxford.

  • @insertclevername4123
    @insertclevername4123 8 месяцев назад +1

    2:50--One appreciates Michael Foot's commitment to ideals: Casual Friday means Casual Friday, even if it falls during the party conference.

  • @Return26-p4t
    @Return26-p4t 10 месяцев назад +1

    For a man who was supposedly resigning due to failing mental health he was very sharp and articulate in his resignation speech. Makes one wonder if there was another reason.

  • @Deepakverma-yb5ro
    @Deepakverma-yb5ro Год назад +1

    Them were the days they were great for heavy industries and the railways I was a child in the 1970s they were great for me when I lived in Oldham

  • @cinebwahaha
    @cinebwahaha 5 месяцев назад +2

    18:54 -- Reg Prentice, the Secretary of State for Overseas Department, smiling sourly at Wilson’s obvious reference to him. Two years later, he defected to the Tories.

  • @JohnEboy73
    @JohnEboy73 3 года назад +8

    Where are you Harold, we need you?!

    • @ryanchapman8255
      @ryanchapman8255 2 года назад +1

      Too true John

    • @keithsmith3678
      @keithsmith3678 2 года назад +2

      We have people like Liz Truss now instead! OMG.

    • @zachsmith5515
      @zachsmith5515 2 года назад

      @@keithsmith3678 - even worse! we have Keir Starmer

  • @willhovell9019
    @willhovell9019 Месяц назад

    What a politician and deliverer of major reforms.

  • @stc40
    @stc40 6 месяцев назад +1

    Harold v Rishi.... bring it on...???!!!!

  • @willhovell9019
    @willhovell9019 Месяц назад

    Mistake in cancelling the original channel tunnel scheme for😢

  • @lennylaa1686
    @lennylaa1686 Год назад +4

    He settled the account with his trade union paymasters after the narrow GE victory
    in Oct. 1974. Public sector was granted 30% pay rises, 33% to GP's and TWO 35% pay
    hikes within ten months of each other to the miners.
    This foolishness ramped inflation up to a peak of 27% and was the cause of a visit
    to the IMF to bail out the nation's finances. It was still 8% almost four years later when
    saint Margaret Thatcher came to office in May, 1979.

    • @DBIVUK
      @DBIVUK  Год назад +2

      The miners were being underpaid compared to other workers, as the Pay Relativities Board (not normally sympathetic to the likes of Joe Gormley) found. But Wilson soon started cutting back on public spending after the summer of 1975 and it was his government who began a pay policy limiting rises to £6 per week in July 1975. UK inflation was actually a result of the Heath government's 1973 budget and the general rise in energy costs after the Yom Kippur war; Wilson and Callaghan did extremely well in reigning it back to 8% by 1978 without causing a recession. When Thatcher came in it immediately went over 20% again.

    • @lennylaa1686
      @lennylaa1686 Год назад +1

      @@DBIVUK On You Tube, I dropped a similar comment on ''RR 7535A UK The Recession''...gives a good picture of events in 1975.
      Yes, I was at secondary school at the time of the ruinous Barber Budget when
      Tory MP's anticipated a free markert programme, they got instead an expansionary,
      unfunded budget.
      But by granting such large pay increases, Wilsom embedded inflation and we endured
      years of industrial strife, that's why I voted for Maggie and the Conservatives
      to correct this ruinous anarchy. And UK industry has been all the better for it.

  • @krisburgess2857
    @krisburgess2857 2 года назад +6

    My personal opinion the best prime minister in the history of the UK 🇬🇧 the JFK of UK 🇬🇧

  • @user5.2003
    @user5.2003 Год назад +1

    Come back Harold

  • @richardlaversuch9460
    @richardlaversuch9460 5 лет назад +3

    I represented Stevenage too, Shirley.

  • @zeddeka
    @zeddeka 4 года назад +4

    Douglas Hurd absolutely spot on about referendums there.

    • @VaucluseVanguard
      @VaucluseVanguard 3 года назад +2

      No he's not. Swiss parliament is strong as is Australia's. Referenda are much more common than the UK.

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@VaucluseVanguardSwitzerland and Australia have much stronger constitutional safeguards for referendums than the UK. Even then, he was indeed right to say that there is "no magic" in them.

  • @TomCullimore
    @TomCullimore 7 месяцев назад

    Compare this man to the 2nd rate lot we have now. God bless you Harold

  • @christopherlane2552
    @christopherlane2552 3 года назад +4

    Benn refused to accept the EEC Referendum results

    • @zachsmith5515
      @zachsmith5515 2 года назад +1

      the Lord Viscount was right

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 5 месяцев назад

      He didn’t think they were a final judgement

    • @willhovell9019
      @willhovell9019 Месяц назад

      Only Benn's version of democracy was valid in his view

  • @radioandtvmemories6178
    @radioandtvmemories6178 10 месяцев назад

    What is the "anti-party group" he is referring to in his conference speech?

    • @DBIVUK
      @DBIVUK  10 месяцев назад

      He didn't want to name them, but he meant the 'Social Democratic Alliance', which was campaigning to stop Reg Prentice being deselected in Newham North East and had issued a vitriolic attack on various Ministers and NEC members who were on the left. Note at 18:32 the camera briefly picks out Prentice listening to the speech.

  • @ThomasDanielsen1000
    @ThomasDanielsen1000 5 месяцев назад +1

    15:08 "We have now become the natural party of government in this country", Labour then proceeding to not win a general election for the next 21 years...

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 5 месяцев назад

      18

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 5 месяцев назад

      Plus Labour Party policy radicalized between 1979-83 and there was the SDP split and it took some time to come back from that

    • @ThomasDanielsen1000
      @ThomasDanielsen1000 5 месяцев назад

      @@briandelaney9710 No, from the time Wilson made his speach til Labour again won a general election it took 21 years.

    • @highdefboxing8056
      @highdefboxing8056 3 месяца назад

      @@ThomasDanielsen1000 This speech is 1975. Labour won in 1997, so 22 years.

    • @jimjam5239
      @jimjam5239 3 месяца назад

      Hindsight. Up to that point Labour were very much the natural party of government in 1975.

  • @richardlaversuch9460
    @richardlaversuch9460 5 лет назад +1

    Why me no listen, Professor Bogdanor?

  • @MarkHarrison733
    @MarkHarrison733 Год назад +2

    What was his legacy? Well, in his first term, the economy drifted from one sterling crises to another, in his second term inflation exploded and reached 25-30 % in '75. Industrial relations worsened during his tenure culminating in 68-69, and he completely failed to curb union power as laid out in "In Place of Strife". He tried desperately to solve the problem with South Rhodesia, but failed. He even tried to broker a peace in Vietnam but failed at that also. It was also during his first term that violence in Northern Ireland started to escalate. The "National Plan" was abandoned in favor of deflation to keep the pound afloat. The fundamental problem in the British economy (inefficient state-owned industries) was never tackled. Rather big failing state industries were just merged into huge conglomerates (like British Leyland). And finally he allowed his cabinet to be riddled with factions and mistrust, which shows that his leadership qualities were questionable.

    • @brianwarden7250
      @brianwarden7250 Год назад

      Yet he achieved higher employment rates than anytime in UK history besides WW2. The Conservatives never were able to meet his unemployment rate for 17 years.

  • @brianwarden7250
    @brianwarden7250 Год назад +1

    The employment rate that Wilson achieved would not be achieved through 17 years of Tory government. Simple fact.

    • @ThomasDanielsen1000
      @ThomasDanielsen1000 5 месяцев назад +1

      It's very easy to keep the employment high if the government borrows money to keep people in unproductive jobs. At 1979 when the Tories took over, it was absolutely clear to most people that this couldn't continue...

  • @krisburgess5258
    @krisburgess5258 7 лет назад +7

    Very tipicel of the panel to take pot shots at tony benn I think he was the best thing to happen to the Labour Party a real man of princabel a real voice of the working class a man real man of the left wing of the Labour Party

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 6 лет назад +13

      Kris Burgess Tony Benn did more than any other politician to keep Margaret Thatcher in power. Yes, he did have principles but it's tragic that so many people ended up having to suffer for them. It's interesting that he was deeply unpopular with a significant proportion of the working class, whom he claimed to speak for.

    • @darryltester5376
      @darryltester5376 6 лет назад +1

      Agree....tony benn was a great orator but his two big achievements was concorde for the rich and the interconnector with france which ended up with the uk getting electricity from europe......

    • @markharrison2544
      @markharrison2544 6 лет назад +5

      Benn kept Labour out of power throughout the 1980s.

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 5 лет назад +2

      The SDP By splitting the Labour Party and the hard left kept Labour our of power in the 1980’s

    • @zeddeka
      @zeddeka 4 года назад

      @@briandelaney9710 you honestly think labour had any chance of winning in the 80s even if the split hadn't occurred?? The whole reason the SDP people left was because the party has become dominated by the extreme left. There's also been quite a lot of academic work to show that the SDP may actually have helped Labour in many ways and the Tory majority in 1983 would have been even larger if the SDP hadn't happened. The SDP not only attracted conservative voters, but also former labour voters who were disgusted by Labour and would have voted Tory instead if the SDP hadn't existed.

  • @Bastillian
    @Bastillian 3 года назад +1

    Such blind faith in the movement expressed by Wilson. What follows is the Winter of Discontent.

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 Год назад

      Not under his watch

    • @ThomasDanielsen1000
      @ThomasDanielsen1000 5 месяцев назад

      @@briandelaney9710 No, but the pyre had been building during his tenure...

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 Месяц назад

      @@ThomasDanielsen1000 Callaghan and Healey insisted to an extreme degree on the 5% pay policy. Healey himself reflected that it was a mistake