TFT Connectivity Issues and Run-Through on the R1250GS Adventure - Solved?
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
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Many people seen to have issues with connectivity between the BMW TFT screen, the BMW Navigator 6, their Helmet and Phone. Here I try and pick my way through the issues and give you a clear view of connections that I find successful. I also outline some issues I've learned from the dealer that exist today (October 2020). My equipment and versions:
TFT software: 022_005_041
iPhone 11 Pro running iOS v14.01
Sena SRL headset: V1.9.0
Nav 6: Software v5.80 (Bluetooth firmware 3.0.11 P32)
Hopefully you get something from this video and also I may get some ideas back from your experiences in the comments?
Ride safe
Nick
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Nick
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Watching this Video in 2024 to learn how to use TFT Pairing.
Thank you from Texas for your help.
Glad it worked for you
I found this video just this week (in March 2024), and shared it with a friend in Tennessee. He paired his SENA 50S, iPhone, Nav VI GPS and the TFT on his 1250 GSA today, then went for a 180-mile ride in the mountains. He navigated a route on his Nav VI, and ran the BMW Motorrad Connected app, to record his ride, and display speed limits on the TFT. He said everything worked flawlessly, and also eveything paired back up with no issues, after a gas stop, and a lunch stop. THANK YOU NICK! You'ce onbiously cracked the code! I plan to do the same with my devices, right after I pick up my new 1250 GS next week.
Glad it still works. It’s a few years old now but the tech is the same 👍🏻
This video is indispensable!! Finally got connected after pulling out all three hairs on my head. BMW should be grateful for your contribution since they provide inadequate information concerning connectivity. Thank you Nick, all the hard work that went behind helping your befuddled followers. Gratefully yours, Jim…
Glad it working for you Jim. The system is still not fool proof, particularly on some iPhones, but the theory of the connections to make in the video have proven sound
Thanks for the detailed video!
I just use my iPhone 7 for the connectivity to TFT through app bmw connect and to listen Spotify in my cardo Packtalk..my setup is iPhone connect TFT and cardo to my phone....for some reason navigation app was losing connection to TFT, than TFT just went frozen...the connection would go back if i restart bike and phone...very annoying...it happened a few times...yesterday i did reset TFT to factory default (default was never modified before)...than i did reset all iPhone bluetooth connections...i went for a 640 km ride and everything worked great! Woohoo...back in business none issues!
Great Fernando. You also have a benefit with the older iPhone. It’s weird that sometime a reset just seems to help👍🏻. Ride safe
@@nickhodgeUK happy again...just to mention...i also use my iPhone in the support as a “gps screen” loving it again...tks and great rides to you!
I watch this video every time I get a new (replacement) Nav VI. I am on my third because they all seem to succumb to the same screen problem where it is as though the invisible man is tapping the screen like a mad man. Thank you for an excellent set up guide.
No worries Nick. Glad it works. I thought the ‘refresh’ models ‘22 on fixed the ghosting. Maybe the next should be the BMW navigator which is Tomtom original instead of Garmin??
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I stumbled across this while trying to find a way to for my TFT, Cardo and Phone to work in relative harmony. They've now gone from hating each other to amicable neighbours. Not beer buddies, but nearly.
Virtual beer accepted 👍🏻 Thank you
Hi Nick I've owned my 1250 rs for one year and finally got the connections sorted thanks to your straight forward ,easy to follow and understand video
Why can't BMW produce such a video
Well done 👍
Thanks Paul. Glad it worked for you 👍🏻
Firstly, thank you for taking the time to make this. I think I just got my head around it even if less important for all us non tft bike users🙂.
This just convinces me how much we don’t NEED tft screens. There was a lot to be said for simplicity and clarity. We do not need all the info available, we do not need the connectivity nor the apps nor music blaring in our ears as riding is demanding enough of our concentration without it. I ride an RS and have both the nav V and VI. I used to have the GSA1200, but for clarity I always thought the last of the 1200 RT displays as the best that BMW made. The problems are all bluetooth and app related. The simple answer is either to make a better tft with full nav options, other bike companies manage this, or to go to a simpler display. As for the bmw app,I gave up on that. I just use the nav units to navigate and don’t bother pairing my phone. I don’t need to make calls whilst riding nor take them. Better to pull over for that. I pair my helmet direct to the nav unit then separately pair the helmet to other intercoms if riding with others. Job done. We have made our lives way too complicated and are slaves to flawed tech.
Hi Paul. It’s frustrating for sure. The TFT itself and the integration with the wheel is probably the best and clearest in the business and for us imperial countries offers simple and quick switches to metric when abroad (often). It does also display useful stuff such as tyre pressures, range, trips and stuff but for sure the Nav integration with the connected app could be better on the GS(A). It is MUCH better and more reliable on the K1600 I have now and has map view so much improved. I need a dedicated Nav as I use plotted routes to ensure I take the route I want, not where google maps or Waze want to take me and at last on the K16 with MRA to plot and the connected app it actually works 👍🏻 Thanks for the detailed comment though
Hi Nick, here we are almost three years on after you making this brilliant video, after a year owning a 2020 GS Adventure I purchased an Interphone U-Com4 BT system and the connection with my tft and navigator V been giving me nothing but desperate anger attacks… Thanks to you’re very clear and calm instructions on this video I’ve managed to get the thing working be it without connection to my navigator V and helmet because I couldn’t make phone calls… so nav V is only connected to iPhone for Smart Link traffic info but that’s just fine, I use the Connected BMW app for navigating. So connected helmet to tft first and then iPhone second and it all works… Thank you so much again and best regards from The Low Countries aka Holland.✌🏻👍🏻
Good news Peter. I sped through Holland in June from the Hoek to Kiel and onward to Nordkapp in Norway. 30 day loop back through Finland to home 👍🏻
Thanks Nick after buying the Cardo Freecom 4 plus and attempting many times to achieve a successful connect to R1250GSA, I gave up. Finally after 2 -1/2 years following your directions, success. A big thank you for your concise instructions.
No trouble Nick. It still has flaws but the theory seems to work mostly 👍🏻
This continues to be the reference instructions for whenever I change phones or need to reset the links. Thanks Nick!
No worries. Randomly one of my best videos. At some point it will be out of date but even the new models in 2023 are using the same system 👍🏻
Hi Nick, recently got a new helmet (Schuberth 5 with Sena SC2) and a new iPhone 13. Set both up to my 1250GS in about 30 minutes following your instructions. This is the third GS and third time of using your video so just like to say a big thanks for spending your time producing it and posting on RUclips. Excellent ,clear step by step process, probably the best out there.
Glad it still holds good Andrew. The connections are getting better but the base tech is the same. Still works with the new 1300 thankfully. Must try and do one with my K16 and the 10.25in screen as that is different again 👍🏻
Tks a lot for your time ! Your video is very much appreciated. JF Montreal Canada ( bough my 1st bike GSA 2021 last summer) am 54, did some motorocycle as a kid and tennager...
You’re welcome Jean-Francois enjoy the bike and ride safe 👍🏻
Thank you Nick! I have the new Nav 7 and there's no manual, but your detailed breakdown of how to connect phone and helmet has been really helpful.
The connections should stand the test of time with the Bluetooth only nav systems. It is different on the 10.25in TFT (2021 on RTs, K16, R18) where there is ‘map view’ actually in the TFT which uses WiFi (not internet a motorcycle specific network) AND Bluetooth. Enjoy the rides👍🏻
Just purchased a r1250GS Rallye Adv, this vid has been a great help to me, clear & concise. Massive thanks.
Glad you liked it and enjoy the new bike 👍🏻
Had many problems with Sena, Nav VI and TFT. This was very helpful. If you connect the Sena to the iPhone you blow the lot away.
Correct David. That is a crucial part for sure 👍🏻
Hi Nick. I struggled with this exact issue and the BMW dealer couldn’t fix it - they said it’s one or the other. I found your video today , did the steps and problem solved. Clear, easy to follow and I didn’t even know my Sena 10s has 2 phone Bluetooth channels. One issue I had, was the TFT froze after I changed the Navi Settings (when connected to the bike) and I had to reset the whole TFT back to factory setting then start again. After that it worked fine. Great job, and many thanks.
Cheers Bob. If you have an iPhone there are still some issues but at least if it loses connection you know how to re-pair 👍🏻
I have just bought 1250GS and waiting for delivery. I have Shoei Neotec 2 helmet with Sena SRL 2 and IPhone 12. Almost everything are the same 🤗 I am very happy and love this video. Solving connection problems between motorcycle, helmet, iPhone is really a big f...ng challenge. Luckily we have Nick 🙏❤️
Alim. I’m currently testing an android device and get ZERO disconnects from the TFT to Connected app for navigation so this is absolutely an Apple iPhone issue
Thanks for this, on my 5th BMW now but first with the TFT, and this proved invaluable in connecting my Sena and my iphone , thanks for taking the time to put this together, and sharing your knowledge with us👍
No problem. Glad it helped and hope you stay connected. The latest software on the TFT does seem better now as I road a new GS a couple of weeks back and it stayed connected 👍🏻
Thank you Nick from Chile to share you knowledge. By far the best video with clear instructions that works perfect with the BMW Fit For All Intercom, Nav VI GPS, iPhone 12 Max and BMW R1250 GS Adv TFT. Volume works also for music and phone at the TFT with the BMB left hand control. BMW has a good idea, but should improve his connectivity to work consistent. GREAT value!!!
Thanks for watching Martin. Glad it helped. Ride safe 👍🏻
I solved all my connectivity issues Nick by sacking off the TFT altogether. I now pair Sena 20sEvo with my Nav 6, phone to Nav 6 and it works seamlessly. No issues after stops with reconnecting. Easy and reliable. Having also purchased software to convert Audible files to MP3s I can now listen to my audio books with complete reliability.
Really enjoy your "how to" videos, so many folk rush or leave out the important bits!! Keep it up.
Thanks for the update. I’m minded to do similar. Had a TFT update (to 022_008_020) on Monday. Still disconnecting. I get too enraged I paid top dollar for this and it doesn’t work. I should take the ‘Frozen’ example and Let it Go 🤣👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK I've been there. It isn't right tbh. I have a 12 year old Grand Scenic and the Bluetooth on that works perfectly 99.9% of the time. And yet a brand new 21k motorcycle is a nightmare. Use the Nav6. I have a new Triple Black (130 miles). It replaced my 2019 GSA. I haven't even turned the bluetooth on - and I don't intend to. New bike - no issues as it's all done through my existing kit. I spent hours trying to get the TFT to work. It would all pair perfectly, then first time i turned the bike off it would stutter. The first time it did this was off the ferry in Ouistreham. I spent an hour at the side of the road and got absolutely nowhere.
I won't be using the TFT for connectivity unless they completely redesign the software - and it actually works! Good luck with it .
Nick, thank you. That saved me throwing the crash helmet, the iPhone, the NavVI and the motorbike out of the pram …..along with all my toys.
Glad it helped Andy 👍🏻
Once again, great video! Workers perfectly. One more helpful hint, if not already covered, is I allow the tft, phone and NAV to pair, then I turn on helmet. Things all seem to connect properly in that order.
Hi Brent. I’m not sure the order matters although you may be right. I think it’s more that the BT connection is about the last system booted. Often 30 seconds after ignition and many don’t wait presuming it won’t but thanks for the comment and glad it works 👍🏻
Fantastic easy to follow video, Nick. I was having problems connecting my system; however, after watching your video, no problem, everything set up first time around. Thanks 👍
Good news Dave 👍🏻
Ive just become a member of the 1250 GSA owners club and im so glad i have found you Nick, i shall definitely be watching all your vids. The ones ive seen so far have been excellent. Great work
Thanks and enjoy the 1250. It’s a great choice 👍🏻
Nick, I put a 21 Triple Black GS Adventure in my stable, and this video saved my sanity after spending the first evening pulling my hair out. My system works perfectly and there are no issues. Keep up the good work my friend. BTW, I put those spacers in as you suggested for my 58L Givi top case to work with my Bumot panniers.
Good job William. If I had a ‘21 model that’s the one I’d have for sure. Ride safe 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thanks again.
Absolutely brilliant! The care you took in editing this video is 90% of what makes it so clear and helpful. Thank you, thanks to you, my 1000XR is all set now.
Thanks a lot. I hate editing. It can take hours/days and most of us are not experts so it means a lot when people notice that effort. Ride safe 👍🏻
Thanks Nick, your a bloody legend have been trying to pair my Shoei Neo Tex 2 SRL to my BMW F750GS, very frustrating with the BMW and SRL videos. Your video is the only video explaining and showing how basic this is. Safe Riding from Australia
A legend in my own bathroom 🤣🤣 glad it worked out. Ride safe too 👍🏻
Hi nick , here we are 2 years later since you made this vlog and your still helping people like me !! I've had terrible trouble connecting helmet , phone, to the 1250 GS ,but after watching this , it all works perfectly !!! Well done you 👏
Thanks Simon and glad it works. There are still flaws but the theory is strong and works for many. Ride safe 👍🏻
Hi Nick, great video, thanks! Just a quick fix I found, if you start the bike but NOT start the engine, and you wait until everything is paired, everything will more times.
Also, thanks for the automation idea :)
Hi Joao. I agree I just worry with all my lights and stuff when it’s cold with 30-40 seconds to pairing the battery may struggle to start if I’ve not ridden her a while. Probably unnecessary on my part. I love the fact you spotted the automation. That’s viewing in detail to see that pop up on my phone 😂😂👍🏻 ride safe
I’ve watched this several times now! Just changed my phone and had to watch it again. I would never of worked out he issues I was having without it. I agree with you that with the amount of money we spend it should be straight forward!!
Hi Kenny. I get some “it’s a motorcycle, ride it” comments but what could be so good is flaky. There is a new version of the app (last week) and the TFT software on mine is due an update so I’m ever hopeful 🤣👍🏻
Been trying to connect my tft screen to helmet all morning,found this usefull blog, so will now go back to the garage and try agsin,thanks nick for all the info
No worries David. Good luck 🤞🏻
This video has been so useful. Thank you for not assuming everyone is technically minded, as I am not but found this really clear to understand and follow. I have had my new GSA since 2019 and all the connectivity has baffled me to the point I gave up. Thank so much for putting this together..
No worries Stu. Thanks for the comment and hope you have some joy 👍🏻
Hi Nick Massive thanks. Was really struggling to get my Nav 6, TFT, and Sena headset to work together. Managed to sort it out following the guidance in your excellent video.
Good news rob. It may not be perfect particularly on iPhones but more often than not it’ll connect now and at least you can reconnect quicker next time. Ride safe👍🏻
Super video, solved my problem. Did not know how to select media/phone/Nav channels. big thanks
Glad it worked for you. Still far from a perfect system but at least you’re connected 👍🏻
THANKS NICK YOU HAVE JUST SORTED 90% OF MY PROBLEMS WITH CONNECTING ALL MY DEVICES LUCKY WE HAD SAME NEOTEC2, GS1250 (2020), AND AN IPHONE, BIG HELP THANKS AGAIN
Hi Paul. It’s easier to follow with the same gear for sure but the theory is the same whatever. Glad some issues have cleared up. We need BMW to clear up the others I fear? 👍🏻
Hi Nick. Thank you this video. Finally someone can explain exactly how I can my devices pairing with my motorbike. Thanks. 👍
Lászió. Glad it helped you. There are still some issues with the system(s) but the theory is sound. Ride safe 👍🏻
Another great video Nick. I wish I'd found your channel 6 months ago when the Alaskan riding season was into full swing. I have a 2020 GSA, the NAV VI, and the Sena 20S. Despite several other tutorials, I've had mixed luck getting everything to work and, exasperated, fell back to becoming comfortable with using my Apple AirPod Pro's, a RAM mount and my phone. I shouldn't complain too much -- the audio quality of the 20S speakers is just slightly better than the PA system at my son's elementary school :). Furthermore, the AirPods 'configuration,' is best used without any active connections to either the TFT or NAV unit. Case in point, you start the music, get your gloves on, get underway only to have the bike hijack the connection and have to stop long enough to reestablish connection with the AirPods -- and reglove. This touches on your point and other's comments about the delay in establishing bluetooth harmony. The last video I remember watching on this topic, despite being 30-plus minutes, missed several settings that yours covered. Yours also seems to debunk the possible myth that there's an important sequence of powering on the components. Thanks again -- I have the bike in its hibernation state until April, but look forward to giving this a new go then.
Hi Jim. Not sure this’ll every be perfect until they dump the Nav6. The 2021 RT does this with it all built into the TFT (colour images, live traffic, etc) but it will still need the Connected app and that’s good as then maps and such can be updated regularly without necessitating TFT updates. Mine too will likely be away until the new year but because it rains so much rather than it being 6ft deep in snow and 10 below. Stay warm 👍🏻
Nick, thanks for your feedback. I definitely have more confidence in the system, but I still see great potential for improvement on the part of BMW. Have a great day!
I’m with you Markus. It’s still flaky particularly with iPhones
Hi Nick, you Sir are a Legend. Why are there so many conflicting routes to full Bluetooth Connectivity out there & unfortunately I have followed a few that providential connectivity only to be let down a few miles down the road when either the music stops or we get no further voice navigation commands. My Son just gave up a long time ago on his 2020 1250 GS & now using his bike as a daily commute just connects his Sena to his phone for uninterrupted music on demand & I was sticking to my guns to find a solution. Followed your sequence to the letter this afternoon & all appears to be connecting straight away. The issues I was facing was Music would stop after 20 or 30 seconds or 5 mins other times my Sena would be shown as Pillion & have to discard the connection & reconnect as rider. I honestly have had for the past 2 years the most expensive paperweight the Garmin V1 but now I can also use this along with my TFT. Thank you very much for your time & effort.
Hope it works for you David. There are still issues with certain combinations of iPhone, headset, TFT software version (generally Android is good) but the theory holds. One issue to be extremely sure of it there is no helmet connection direct to the phone. It seems sometimes that ‘steals’ the connection while riding if that makes sense? Another thing is also if you have Sena the default name is Sena SRL 1.2 or similar and although they have unique Bluetooth IDs it helps when connecting rider/passenger helmets in the TFT. To do this TEMPORARILY pair the helmet and phone. Open the Sena app and go to intercom pairings in the app. There you’ll see a pencil by your ‘headset name’ (eg Sena SRL 1.2). Click that and edit the name. (No special characters). Mine is Nicks Shoei. Note: no apostrophe or it won’t save. Now delete the headset/phone pairing and the helmet pairings from the TFT and re-pair the helmet and TFT and this time it’ll have your new name and better to identify 👍🏻
Just received a recommendation to this and it worked very successfully. And I’m not very technical. Big thanks for making it.
No trouble Richard. The system isn’t perfect especially with iPhone but the theory is sound and for some it works great 👍🏻
I do have a problem. Hope you can help. I’ve got the Sena slr2 and previous to following your advice I was able to get my hey Siri by holding the button on the side of the helmet. I know can’t. Any advice if possible. Cheers
Hi Richard. It’s because you should have no connection from the headset to the phone. If you have that you’ll likely lose the connection to the TFT. Try it but I suspect that’s what will happen. It does with the SRL
Quick update. Glad I’ve found your channel. Lots of interesting subjects. I’ve just ended up with iPhone to slr2. Loved using the joy stick but being able to ask for song choice on Spotify and asking to directions on Waze outdid the BMW technology of the wheel etc. but big thanks for your help.
Yep. Best the way it works!! Ride safe
I know this was a while ago Nick but great video. FINALLY, I have it paired the way you state. Strangely, "Hey Cardo" doesnt work with music in this config but Siri works perfectly. Thanks a million
Glad it worked for you. There are still some issues with some iPhones but we are promised a TFT update to hopefully fix those this month
Brilliant video. I have a 2020 R1250R Sport, with software update last week. Also NeoTec 2 with Sena. Thanks for you great advice.
Glad you liked it Alexander and thanks for the comment 👍🏻
What a great video, thank you for a tremendous amount of effort to help your brothers that ride BMW Motorrad, I have had my R1250GSA over a year and I suffered extreme brain cramping trying to get things to work right between devices. Great Job, Thank You
Pleasure John. Some Apple devices still have issue which I’m told will be fixed with a TFT software update in Feb/Mar 22
Cheers for that nick, I now have my Sat nav talking to me for the first time since buying the 2020 Bmw R1250rs
Thank you good info
No worries Chris. Glad it worked for you. Ride safe 👍🏻
Excellent, thanks to you and your video, finally seem to have it sorted! F900XR, Navi VI, Huawei Mate P20 Pro, TFT now all playing together...
Good news Phil and with a Huawei you’ll not have the issues us iPhone users have. New video on that incoming… 👍🏻
Thank You Nick! I have been trying different combinations for 2 days. But I always connected my iPhone to my Cardo Pack Talk Bold first. Your way works great so far And if I ride my other bike, I can re-pair the Mobile phone 1 connection on the Cardo unit for my iPhone, then change it back to the TFT dash when I'm on the GS. Awesome easy to follow video !
Glad it worked out for you. Ride safe 👍🏻
Hi Nick, thanks for the very well explained video I have a 1250GSA from 2021 and the sena SF4 and it worked, I was struggling with GPS and TFT.
Now it makes sense to use both.
Perfect Joaquim. Glad it worked for you 👍🏻
Thank you again, this video is a timesaver every single time. Btw this also works for the 2023 tft on the 1250rt with the srl2 .
Glad it works for you. The RT (and my new 1600) also use WiFi for the map view so the additional steps are to be sure you have nothing in the bike that is also requiring WiFi (like my Innovv camera). Also sometimes the map view won’t start at home as it won’t let go of the Home WiFi (bear in mind this is a wireless network, not hinging to do with internet). Maybe I’ll do a specific video on the 10.25 screen soon
@@nickhodgeUK Interesting, I had an issue with my phone connecting to the TFT on my bike but when I visited the showroom he asked me to get rid of a load of Bluetooth devices which I did, and this automatically sorted it, also my Apple watch needed to be in airplane mode as it was also causing the WiFi to disconnect and therefore the maps.
That’s interesting that some of these things work. The ‘old’ turn-by-turn maps (which if WiFi drops is the drop back on the 10.25) and the default on the 6.5in TFT also runs the media and phone. A phone can have multiple Bluetooth (BT) connections although the more you have the more issue is likely. Only the maps use WiFi and certainly I’ve had issues connecting to those if I am for example outside a hotel and are still connected to their WiFi as a phone can only have a single WiFi connection so entering settings and manually connecting to the TFT WiFi (2Gxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) will sort the issue. The update I had on the TFT on the 16 in September 2022 improved it a lot, but interestingly the latest app update (June 23) seems to have set it back slightly although on a recent 6,500 mile trip it worked the bulk of the time perfectly. I too have had the developers question my Apple Watch but personally I find that a little implausible but if it works I’m willing to accept it. It’s getting there but it really wants a ‘reconnect’ WiFi setting in the TFT that works (there is one I think called connect map view, but it NEVER) works. Nearly there though and with route planning on MRA I’m beginning to like the setup 👍🏻
Nice and clear explanation!! The one who have gone through all this trial and error process will immediately understand what you are explaining and you have done it perfectly 👍
Thanks Amit. Here’s hoping 🤞🏻
Hi Nick, Thank you very much. You helped me where BMW couldn’t. Greetings from Belgium
Hi Seydi. Glad it helps. The system is still not perfect but it’s getting better slowly. Ride safe 👍🏻
Hi Nick, I’m a right numpty when it comes to this sort of thing but followed your instructions they were perfect thanks🍺
Well done Mick. The system isn’t perfect but the theory is correct. Hope the system works for you because when it does it’s very good 👍🏻
Hi I would just like to say a very big thankyou for the way you presented the information on your chanel I've tried several times to per everything and after seeing your presentation I now have full systems go fantastic I definitely owe you a pint or two if your ever over my way in Hornsea.
Glad it worked Des. Ride safe 👍🏻
Superb video with very clear instructions. Just in time for my wild Atlantic way trip. Thanks JR
Thanks Pat. Enjoy your trip and ride safe 👍🏻
Great video, thanks! I have a 2021 F850GSA with same phone and a Krios helmet with Sena and your directions were spot on!
Glad it worked for you Brent. Ride safe 👍🏻
Another excellent video. Struggled for the last couple of weeks since getting my 1250GS to connect all the comms. Driving me mad ! Went through your steps and bingo. I have the same set up with Shoei Neotec 2 and SRL and now all talking perfectly with phone, TFT and NAV6. Is was the only thing spoiling the joy of this bike. Owe you beer
Beer always welcome Mark🍻. Going to try and get a ride tomorrow here before the lockdown 2.0 commences. Ride safe 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK you and me both 👍
Thank you Nick thank you excellent video. BMW Motorad should be ashamed of themeselves becasue they dont produce a decent video like this, same issue with my new X5 comms
Thanks Martin. There are still some issues but this seems to explain the nuances ok 👍🏻
Hi Nick.
Nicely done video. I followed your steps and got things working. I use N-com B 902 R on a Nolan 100-5 helmet. It’s based on same Sena technology as the SRL/SRL2 technology. I have a neotec 2 helmet as well with the SRL2. I’m not a big fan of Sena and these modules are based on their S20 which is an older model but it gets the work done.
Thanks for your effort.
No worries Thomas. Glad it all worked out 👍🏻
Excellent video, Nick!! Getting my new 1250GS soon and I fully appreciate the heads up and specific directions. Easy to follow.
Thanks Brandon and enjoy the new bike 👍🏻
Thank you… a lot of effort, but you have helped a lot of people, including me.
Maybe one day BMW will actually deliver their products that actually just work, out of the box.
Devices that communicate with each other, and sort out the connection hierarchy directly
We pay enough , and they sell enough, for them to be better than currently.
Thanks for watching. Glad it helped you 👍🏻
Thank you.. I also have a ‘20 R1250GSA and have been struggling to get it to provide all connected features. This was extremely helpful.
Great Larry. Glad it helped. May you have better connections xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Which Garmin app do you use for traffic & weather - Smartlink or Drive?
@@larrybenitz2535 not sure if it’s country specific Larry but smartlink
Algorithm points for this complete issue solving presentation.😎
🤣🤣 Thanks Bart 👍🏻
Nick what can I say this has been really helpful Ive owned my 1250 for 2 years and got the Neotec 2 connected to the bike and not the satnav, to be honest I was okay with listening to music and not a voice telling me which way to go. But watching one of your previous videos I realised I wasn't getting what I paid for or the full experience. Thanks to you there has been a vast improvement, still not 100% with the Garmin as every now and again it seems to decide to set its own routes or change screens.
Hi Phil. Glad it’s helped. If your Garmin is under 2 years old it’s still in warranty and if under 3 years still in BMW warranty (if it is a Nav6) the ghosting where it looks like someone else is pressing buttons is a known fault and you may get it replaced with perseverance 👍🏻
Nick just a quick update I took your advice and contacted my local BMW dealers in Essex and they took the Nav 6 in and had a look at it then called me to confirm that it was U/S and to pick up a 2021 version. I have also had all of the software updates on my 1250 done so have reinstalled the crash helmet/phone/Nav again. So thanks again for the advice.
@@philgirling9192 good news Phil. There is supposed to be a big TFT software update in Feb/Mar 22 aimed at stabilising the connections to the TFT in particular the ‘connected’ app. Here’s hoping 🤞🏻 👍🏻
It can be a little aggravating when you get more information from customers experiences then you can the actual dealers that sell these. I just bought the 22 R18 bagger…. From a Harley dealership that are now starting to sell BMWs 😊 so getting anyone that has any knowledge on how these bikes are set up and operated is an adventure on its own. I haven’t really messed too much with the TFI display besides setting the app up on my phone ,but I was wondering on the headset in my helmet if it could be linked considering it is the Cardo brand? but I agree having a second phone to set up and use it as a designated operation source would be a good choice, besides my max pro will not fit in the compartment they have on the bagger. I know the bikes are still new and have a lot of bugs to work out but I’m patient! So great video and information. Thanks
Hi Donnie. It’s frustrating the issues that are there however you may find the R18 will be fine. For sure I don’t hear much from S1000XR riders for example. The Nav 6 does not help for sure. The system will only work if you pair a headset and the cardo will be fine. Good luck 👍🏻
Hi Nick, thanks for this and hopefully BMW will sort it all out soon. I have a Cardo Pactalk Bold and an I phone with my GS. I have had frequent problems with connections. The main success I have implemented is to turn on the bike first and get it to pair with your phone and get the phone symbol to come up on the TFT before you turn on your Cardo, then the helmet symbol comes on. No problems. The pain is when you stop for say petrol and you turn the bike off you must turn off the Cardo, before restarting the bike waiting for the phone symbol and then turning the Cardo back on. If you don’t do this I just get the phone symbol on start up and the Cardo will not pair. It’s a nightmare.
Andrew. I agree. It takes to long to start the Bluetooth connections. Maybe 30-40 seconds. That’s for ever when your waiting to ride especially in a group. You know when it’s trying as the BT symbol starts to flash on the TFT. It’s never going to connect before that. Hope springs eternal 👍🏻😂
Nick, Thank you very much for putting together this video. I have referred back to it many times in order to commit to memory the pairing sequences and nuances of pairing all the devices. You are a wonderful teacher, very easy to follow on video. Once again, Thanks!
...and until all the issues are ironed out I feel committing to muscle memory is best as it lowers frustration. With the extra fuel range of the GSA I can do a full TFT, phone, lid reset in that time easily 🤣🤣👍🏻
Wish I’d watched this when you first posted it Nick.. as I thought it was just me! 🤣 my iPhone kept unpairing and dropping out (have a 2020 r1250gsa). Only a month ago (May 2022) I asked the dealer to update all of my
Software and firmware. It turn out it had never had any updates.. and this (though as you say it took about 6 hours just for the updates), it seems to have fixed all of my issues. Though, it still seems slow IMHO to lock onto the iPhone and my headset. Sometimes a few minutes. But at least I’m not pairing them every other time! J
Hi John. Part of the issue was the unreliable connecting so they seem to have moved it to the end of the TFT boot queue. Does seem more reliable there but as you say can take a good minute 👍🏻.
My eyes glaze over. I'll be out riding while all you guys try to figure this stuff out.
My videos can have that affect 👍🏻
This is easy to follow .. going to try it. Noticed the BMW app has now been updated ! Then just have to fix the Sena SRL2 issues with crappy speakers .. can5 listen to music over 50mph💩
Andrew. I think your issue there is the volume. My speakers are fine so long as you’re one click off full. 1st. Connect everything, start your music (this is important as otherwise this next step turns up the ringer). Turn the volume to full on your phone. This is actually turning up the BT channel volume. Now turn it up full on SRL until it starts bleeping. Then back one press to stop it distorting. That works for me up to the speed limit (at least 😉). Unfortunately you also need to get someone to call you on phone and when answered turn volume up to Max that channel also. Both these settings will persist at least until you use another BT device (eg home speaker) to listen to your music 👍🏻
Great video! They are delivering my 2020 R1250RS next week, your video is exactly what I needed! Thanks!
You’ve an exciting week incoming!! Ride safe 👍🏻
Good morning Nick
Very good and very helpful Nick on my Gs1250 I just have my old iPhone 6s and helmet connected to the TFT I’m going to try to connect my sat nav v to it now after following your video. Thanks Nick
Good luck Chris 👍🏻 sorry it took a long time to reply you fell in the RUclips naughty bucket for some reason 🤷♂️
Sorry to hear about your troubles with your GS connectivity.
I love the look of the GS but just too many problems with it especially with it costing $31,000 in Canada.
Glad I bought a new 2019 Super Tenere ES for $16,500.
I use a TomTom 400 GPS and an IPhone 7Plus for music and run everything thru my SENA 20S and it works perfectly all the time.
The Tenere doesn’t have all the electronics like the other bikes , but what it does have, works perfectly.
Keep up the great videos.
Good luck and ride safe.
Must try a Tenere. The Africa Twin is gaining traction here it seems but I saw a BMW, Yamaha, Triumph, Honda test a year or so ago and the BMW romped all but cost and the Yamaha seemed to drop into 2nd in most categories. It’s probably not as big an issue as us ‘prima Donna’s’ make out but your right. It should work all the time at that price. Many do what you do and use the Nav as everything and that seems to work better but you then lose handlebar control. Ride safe and often 👍🏻
Hi Nick. Thank you so much again. Your channel has been very useful around the world. Hug my friend. Congrats from Brazil Soutf America . City of Campinas - State of São Paulo
Thanks for the comment Junior 👍🏻
Excellent video Nick, I use the same method for my 1250 RT, a little bit tricky because I have the radio on the bike and a Bluetooth dong specially to pair music from Spotify to the radio. the only difference is that I start from the bike and then to the Garmin VI. Appreciated the “trick” of disconnecting the “media” on the Garmin VI. Sometimes my system also gets confused so, turning that off might help. Another thing I always do, otherwise thing will go crazy and I wont be able to answer phone calls, despite I see them coming, is to always connect the helmet first (mine is SLR2) then the bike. Cheers and keep safe.
Thanks for the additional info Sérgio. I too always have helmet on first. Ride safe 👍🏻
Hi Nick. Bruce in Wagga Wagga Australia. just watch this RUclips on the TF Connectivity issues etc. Although it is now May in 2022 I think it is still very relevant to me. I have a 2019 R1250GS. iPhone 12 and a BMW Navigator GPS (Garmin) I have the BMW Motorrad Connected App on my phone and it has not recorded any trips for over a year. At the bottom of that screen on the App it says There is “no devices connected”. I also have a Shoei Neotech and the same Senna headset integrated as you which I have not used due to similar issues.
I am going to uninstall all connections and follow you instructions and see if this sorts it out.
Hi Bruce. The ‘no device connected’ in the app is not related. That’s a new things for the BMW connected cradle which you can use with your phone rather than the BMW Nav 6. Hope you get stuff sorted though 👍🏻
Well done, difficult subject with many interacting variables.
Thanks John. It’s still not the most reliable tech and they’ll be better when they incorporate ‘full’ Nav in the TFT (as the 2021 RT) and ditch the external Nav which complicates it but this works (mostly) for me 👍🏻
Wow, an impressive tutorial. Sadly I don't have a GS but I do have the SRL headset and this has helped with understanding the various BT protocols, thanks.
Thanks. Pleasant consequential 👍🏻
Thanks for doing this Nick, I think we’ve all had problems, get frustrated and just give up or use just one connection. I’ll give your step by step instructions a go and hopefully get successfully connected. User friendly! No where near yet! Maybe one day all our gadgets will automatically connect with a simple singular command. Thanks again Nick, you’re a good teacher. 👍
Thanks for the comment. You’re right... one day 😂😂
Hear hear. Well said. Thanks for posting- very useful.
Hi Nick, thank you so much for you informative and helpful video. I struggle and struggled with this issue and basically just gave up. I have a Sena 20S Evo so adapting some of your instructions was a bit taxing but having now done so it all just works. And that my friend is all down to you, your patience and ability to put it out there on the interweb. Once again my thanks, Mark.
Good news Mark. I’m sure there’ll still be days it’s an issue as the system is not perfect but the frustration of fixing the issue is easier with knowledge. Ride safe 👍🏻
Thank you, I will have another go with mine as I'd given up connecting everything. 👍
Good luck Steve. We shouldn’t give up. I’ll try and help but keep pushing and complaining. It should work. BT is fairly old tech 👍🏻
Thank you Nick, I will try again tomorrow 👍👍
Good work Nick. Will check mine over 2moro. I’ve never had it all working together. Must write your sequence down for posterity.
Here’s hoping and don’t give up. Post back for more advice 👍🏻
Thanks for a great video. I have repeatedly reset the connections only for the music to drop out after 10 or 15 minutes and the phone is unreliable. I hope this works but nonetheless I’m grateful for your assistance.
No problem Warwick. Unfortunately the system isn’t flawless with certain headset/phone combinations but the theory stacks up and improves it for many. Good luck 👍🏻
Make sense, and thank you for the explanation. However, in my case, I ride more than one bike, and in this case I need to pair my helmet to my phone...
Again Nick this is another very good and helpful review👍🏼
Thanks Mike 👍🏻
Hi Nick, great video and was interested to see the issues BMW owners are having with connectivity.
I own a Triumph Rally Pro and people are also saying they are having connectivity issues, whereas I didn't and I know its all in the way everything is connected and in the correct order.
I have to say it seems very convoluted the way any of these things connect.
What I found best was to remove all pairings from helmet to phone (I use Android) and then pair phone to TFT then pair helmet to TFT and it has worked flawlessly.
I'm surprised BMW don't have it so that the Nav pairs to the TFT along with the phone and helmet, if it did I feel these issues would be resolved. Just seems too compilcated.
Also hate to say but the common theme is that most problems are with iPhone. Especially the camera failing due to vibrations when mounted to the bike, more specific, iPhone 11.
I can’t argue with any comments there. Certainly I travelled recently with a new Rocket 3 owner and he’d live my issues (we called his ambient temperature guage a random number generator). It’s frustrating but I find when you get a ‘way’ that works it’s at least manageable. For sure Apple are a big negative contributor 👍🏻
THANK YOU! This is so helpful and a lot easier to digest than some of the other videos. The only minor thing that would improve your cheat sheet would be labeling the green and blue lines with mobile 1 and mobile 2 respectively.
Thanks Andy. I noticed that actually after production but glad and hope it helps anyhow 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Your automation inspired a whole new area of "playing"
I added an automation to open the BMW Connected App (And then turned off always in location services for the app - I just don't like apps always using location)
I had it open my favorite playlist in music and set the volume
I also added another automation shortcut to open the Garmin Smart Link when the Nav 6 connects via Bluetooth.
One last tweak was on the Bluetooth setting on my iPhone (IOS 14.*). on the (i) info section for that connection, the sync contacts is checked, but I unchecked all contacts and just check favorites. This means I just get a handful of contacts on the TFT.
The Automation idea was really cool, so maybe a good idea for a future vlog. Thanks for helping me along.
@@andyjames1699 hi Andy thanks for the comment. Be careful turning off location services in the app. I heard directly from developers that the phone going to sleep (as it would in your pocket) can stop it working which is a problem to use any Nav from it although that may not worry you. If not you have no need to open it as it’s not needed for anything else 👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK I've been using it to log ride history only.
@@andyjames1699 great bit of info as I have had a real headache because Siri won't work with tft & I have over 500 contacts
Super helpful. First time connecting satnav or helmet and made the process very easy. Cheers Nick :)
Glad it worked Andrew. Still not 100% but hopefully software updates will help 👍🏻
Thanks. Welldone. Explained a difficult subject, very well.
Glad you could follow it Romney 👍🏻
Hi Nick thank for the video, I have followed it to the letter, updated, restarted But my GSA and Packtalk Bold are so intermittent, music skips and fast forwards, sometime no map prompts then all of a sudden she goes nutz in my ear telling me directions from miles away from where I have travelled from until it catches up to where I am ??? I have a Nav6, Iphone 12, all the updates are complete and BMW have updated the TFT etc, the other thing is you cannot sometimes use the wheel to start music playing it has to be done from the phone... I am at a total dead end now !!! Just been on a 10 day trip and it was sooooo frustrating, BUT the bike its self is just so good its just the connectivity issue Thanks great vids
Hi Andy. That’s not an unusual experience I’m afraid. Here’s what I do. Delete all pairings. Reset TFT via settings. Factory reset the headset and re-pair everything, starting phone to TFT. Headset to TFT. Now try that without connecting to Nav. I’m finding it important to have phone accessible to TFT (breast pocket). If all that works then connect the Nav (disconnecting the phone and media channels). There is a 14.6 for iPhone and an update for the app too last week. Good luck👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Thank you appreciated, I will try it tomorrow ;-)
Nick, thanks so much for this. I couldn't work out what I was doing wrong but thanks to your video its all sorted and it makes sense. I owe you a beer 👍👍
David. Glad it worked out. The connection is still sometimes unreliable particularly on Apple phones with iOS past v13 but at least if you commit it to muscle memory you can reconnect in around a minute if you need. I’m hoping soon I may be able to release a video with this fixed but it’s over a year there’s been the dropping issue which BMW blame on an Apple update so anyhow. Watch this space 👍🏻
Another well explained video.
Well done Nick.
Thanks Ian 👍🏻
This is great. I have a new GS, an iPhone and the same intercom as you. Cheers
Glad you found it useful Chris 👍🏻
Watched and took notes. I'm sure it will help, even though I have a Cardo Freecom 4... but it all made sense - Thanks for taking the time to break down a very complicated 4-way integration, plus apps, very much appreciated.
No problem Dean. It seems to work for most. The theory applies to all kit. Good luck 👍🏻
Hi Nick, had my GS first service a couple of weeks ago, there was a TFT update which they offered a couple of days before as they need the bike all day on the day of service !! I have had NO issues with connecting Sena 30K /Samsung phone /Nav ect , it was suggested that I don't need to have the updates if I don't want them as they occasionally throw up problems that were not there before and you can't go back !!It's all working perfectly so declined the updates!!! The only thing I have found is that for the Sena and phone to connect automatically to the TFT every time I need to have the bike switched on and done its start up checks before I turn on the 30K, not have the Sena on first. love the vids, Dave
Cheers Dave. Yep, if it ain’t broke don’t fix it is certainly the case. I think the November one will be worthwhile for those of us with issues 👍🏻
Hey Nick
Your setup is pretty similar to mine 70 plate GSA exclusive only difference is Sena SRL 2. I've updated the firmware of the Sena today and setup as you suggest. Set the Nav 6 to run in GPS home mode and set music running from TFT. Then got my wife to phone me and bugger me it all worked, first time since I got the bike. We're off on a ride tomorrow Kielder and the Boarders so will give it a full test. Thanks for putting all your time and effort into these videos I really enjoy them.
That’s fantastic news. Remember too once it’s connected start your music and turn the volume up full on you phone before you ride off as you can’t do that until that channel is ‘in use’. The same with your phone. Get your wife to call you while stationary. Answer it on the TFT and turn the volume up full on the phone while on the call. This should not need doing each time but now you have those channels on full volume you can adjust them with the headset buttons on the SRL 2. BMW are looking to release the protocol to adjust the volume using the wheel which is currently only licensed to work in their helmets. Hopefully major headset manufacturers will retro-release but you have more chance than me in that although they may also see it as new headset sales and only fit to new models???? Enjoy your trip. Did it a month ago. Great time. Ride safe 😂
@@nickhodgeUK Hey Nick, had a great ride around Kielder yesterday and guess what all was good. Took you advise about volume levels and had no issues whatsoever. Its the best it's been no dropouts from what I assume must have been crossed connections. Thank so much for the video its greatly appreciated. 👍
@@stevenwilliams2 I’m chuffed about that. I’m sure there are still bumps in the road with it but hopefully you can now get it working well if it does. The next couple of months will move closer to fixes and with the new RT announced yesterday needing full reliance on the connection to the app for navigation they have to pay more attention. Glad the ride was good too. We had great days up there. Ride safe and often 👍🏻
Nick thanks for the info. Getting ready to purchase GS next year. I will skip the nav and use my phones nav. I will say I have never had any issues like this on my Harley Ultra Limited.BMW needs to make their moto: " what's wrong with doing it this way to easy". Thanks again!
Hi David. I think the Nav 6 is the weak point but it has the live traffic/cameras and more detailed route planning. Maybe too much. BMW seem also to have been thrown a curve ball by a BT (or privacy) issue in the Apple iOS. Hopefully when the Nav is fully brought in the TFT (although it will still use the app for maps as it’s easier to update) things will improve. That’s 2021 on the RT so expect it on the GS in a year or so 👍🏻
All done Sena30k and pack talk bold seems to be working out tomorrow will let you know my issues when listening to music and get a command from the satnav the music would not come back on stay safe mark
Well done mark. Be great to know how you get on. Ride safe 👍🏻
A highly detailed video Nick - must have taken ages to produce - well done. I have a 1200 GS Rallye 2018, a Samsung S10 and a Cardo 4 unit. I followed BMW’s pairing instructions and everything appeared ok. However when I try to make or receive a phone call, I can hear the party at the other end of the line but they cannot hear me. Media is perfect although the Cardo unit can be slow to connect. I have not tried to use navigation as it’s difficult to get lost in Ireland. I’ll reinstall each unit following your instructions and see if that improves my phone issue. Thanks for your video. Brian.
Thanks Brian. Hope you can get stuff sorted 👍🏻
Hi Brian , i have exactly the same issues using s10+ and cardo packtalk bold...have you found any solutions please ? Cheers
Andy
@@andybaker973 Hi Andy. Try connecting your helmet and phone to your bike. Then connect your phone to your helmet. This worked on my GS which I've recently swapped for a 900 XR. I've been on holidays for the past few weeks and haven't had a chance to set up the new bike. Good luck.
very informative nick , thanks , had a car load of problems with mine aswell , gonna try your method asap , i very nearly threw my nav 6 away in temper !!!!!!!!! ,lol , and that was just round scotland , never mind europe !! , love the comment to bmw , haha , been trying to get my bike serviced for months and updated , no joy!!
bmw are rapidly going down in my estimations , not a happy camper
I think you’ll find some connectivity solutions Brian. At least I hope. It is getting there. I love my GS and it does let them off much they shouldn’t be let off. My dealer is good though and try to keep me sane 👍🏻
Hi Nick, I have a R1250GSA Jan 2020 and I have had exactly the same issues. My dealer recommended only using the NAV6 for all communications and not to use the TFT at all which seemed ridiculous. I also had numerous problems with the NAV6 which meant replacing the unit not once but 4 times. In the end I asked for a refund. I fitted my TomTom Rider using an Evotek mount. Now everything works really well I just cannot use the wizzy wheel to control the TomTom but I can live with that. I can even use the Motorrad App to find and Nav to something specific like a fuel station or restaurant without having to interrupt the main trip on the TomTom.
Frustrating eh? The Nav 6 is really the weak link here. It doesn’t really do anything well 😂 the only issue I now have is with the map suddenly going crazy and losing buttons and stuff and also it looking like I’m getting phantom presses. Quicker they incorporate Nav properly in the TFT the better but then everyone wants regular map updates and some link to live traffic and cameras. Good old google maps 😂👍🏻
@@nickhodgeUK Yep it was losing buttons and phantom presses which drove me to hand the unit back. They are a lot of money and they do not work well. Friend of mine has the Nav5 and that seems a lot better.
Great video Nick I don’t have a tft I’m on a 19 XR but planning to go back to a GSA or the new XR next year so this is of great interest well put together clear and concise as always keep them coming 👍👍
That new M XR looks (as my kids would say) sick. Bit too revvy for me and a chain????? But lovely non the less. Seen the new additions to the RT??