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The Key Differences Between Government HR and Civilian HR
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2023
- I've worked in both Government Human Resouces AND Non-Government or Civilian Human Resources. This video goes over the top Pros & Cons including Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF).
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Hey Lady, you are so right. I just left state service after 25 years and went to corporate. Im glad we still have pensions, so i will be able to collect that. But, i felt stuck working in the stone ages. I know I could have been a lot further along had i not been married to the state. It used to be the place to retire from, but now other places have better pay and benefits. Leaving state service was the BEST decision I've made re my career. I've never been this happy at a job. The perks are amazing. My pay jumped to over 20K and i got a sign-on bonus. I also get every other Friday off and we shut down the last week of the year, so thats an additional week vacation. I thank God weekly for blessing me. I love my employer!
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I don't know how your channel popped up on my feed. I'm just glad it did. I love the content but what got my attention immediately was the accent to which I said, This lady is from my home. I scroll down to the bottom of your description and see your address as Goose Creek. I definitely have to click subscribed for the Low Country. Stay positive!!!!
💜It's you knew this was something I was about to look into, yas! Thank you as always for another video, Timeka! I'm an HR Coordinator in the Hospitality (Hotel) industry so it's nice to see videos/info like this that break down the day-to-day encounters, pros and cons, etc
Yaaassss! You’re so welcome! 💜💜💜
I have 10 years state government HR experience, 2 local govt and 2 years of corporate recruiting. I was laid off with no real reemployment rights in private and that was enough to rock me right back to the State.
I just discovered your channel. I got into human resources late in life (late thirties) after a career in the military. I found it difficult to obtain a civilian position. I recently retired from state service. I do agree that working for the government stifles your career. Mostly because you are assigned duties as a specialist. You are not or rarely given the opportunity to work in different areas of human resources to develop and grow as a human resources professional. I even obtained my PHR and attended a number of training classes. My question is how to break in the civilian market? I am told you are not a fit...we want someone already in the industry. I don't know if it was my age, the reluctance to train an older employee or thinking a person with only government employment is not open. I would love to learn the other areas of human resources or work in differ industries, but the opportunity has never presented itself. Listening to you broke my heart because I agreed with you. It took me back to when I was employed by the state. I felt stuck but at the same time grateful to be employed.
Thank you for this so much, also the places that you are in impact differently and pay is tremendously in local federal, and state government is different what I could have earned in Georgia is largely different from here in Colorado. I left Atlanta and in the first couple of months, I increased my income by 20000, and then at least 10-15 thousand without having to change my job description that much. Yes, the cost of living is more but the salary is comparable with where I live and is 50 percent more than what I would have made in Georgia or the southern states with no certification just with degrees. I appreciate you, Sis, and please continue to share your truths and your knowledge, For folks that do not want to listen that is on them but your beliefs are just that and your truths are just that you are awesome!! ps I do work in local government and the benefits and pay are much better than some of the state positions I have looked at the benefits of having Pera plus 401 k simultaneously allows me to double save for retirement and still take home what I need to live and enjoy life...I digress, thanks again. Love your chanel
Thank you so happy you found it helpful. Location is a whoooole nutha animal that I didn’t want to overwhelm folks with… lol
I can’t even lie, I was too nervous to move early in my career as a young single mom. 🥹
This was very helpful Timeka thank you sm! Currently a HR Manager trying to work my way up on the civilian side.
You’re so welcome!!!! You’ve got this! Stay focused! 💪🏾💜💜
I do agree with quite a bit of your points and I’ve worked in Federal HR for 6 years now. Although the six figures are nice, I don’t feel challenged at all so I’m already looking for the next thing, but where can I go? Because like you said, there is no cross training of any other sector to prepare you for anything else. I have my masters in HR, but had no idea that I’d end up in Federal government and now I feel like it was a waste. Sometimes I think about leaving gov’t HR, but I see so many losing their jobs SO frequently it scares me. I worked retail management for years before coming into Federal gov’t so I’m used to fast-paced, high volume and this is SO not that. SMH. Great video by the way! 😊
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I am not a fan of the government . I used to work in the veterans administration as a nurse assistant. I wouldn't go back . My boyfriend is in the government and he HATES his job. The government people don't like any changes even if it will help. Then there is the union that takes seniority over experience. There is a pension but you have to be a LIFE employee. I am with you government yuck 🤮
You hit on it all! How can I go professionally if you don’t want to change anything? New initiatives require change. Smh
And why I gotta commit to LIFE just to retire well? Sounds like the chances of me enjoying that retirement money is slim to none. 🙄
I find your videos very helpful as I transition into HR. Can you suggest which industry would be advantageous to work in for civilian HR, such as tech, hospitality, or small business?
Hey! I’m so happy to hear that they’re helpful! Yes, here’s a video on HR in different industries ruclips.net/video/hmd-Yt0BUXI/видео.htmlsi=iyMzb4eVVLX0xiAZ
Thank You for the details:)
You’re so welcome! 💜💜
you right i already spent 10 yrs trying to move up and around in the government
Who mad?!? I understand that government workers are passionate about the work & feel they are serving a purpose by serving the people. I understand that government positions feel like a sense of security and an imitation feel of care. HOWEVER, Timeka is correct from a factual standpoint. Though harsh, true. The PSLF does sound sweet. For workers are given a .22 cent raise every year for ten years, this is an awesome offer. HOWEVER, civilians are getting $$$$ and bonuses that can cover student loan payments. Also, are in positions to negotiate for the employer to pay some/all of their loans. Heeyyyy HR, Ms. Timeka Green, ouch, but you are telling the truth. We got a real one y’all.
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Some government agencies have student loan repayment program where you get $10K per year up to $60K. You make $$$$$ in government you have to apply for positions with promotion potential so you can go from entry level HR to making 6 figures in 3 year time frame.
I just got out the military and was thinking about going federal to continue contributing to my tsp. I fell in love with HR from recruiting so I'm working on my MBA and preparing for the PHR. In my head federal would better for me becauae where i want to work I'd be surrounded by a lot of veterans but listening to this makes me question all my decisons lol
That actually sounds like a safe route. I think going to non-government HR would be risky. You have a good plan! Or, you could do a staffing agency & get a lot more money but then you wouldn’t be able to contribute to TSP.
Have you ever worked for the federal government because state government and federal is different. I do know federal makes more than state. I have worked for both them and state they don’t get pay raises like the federal.
Uh oh, you didn’t watch the video 😬
I never worked for the federal government bc in addition to TOTAL compensation (ie salary, perks & benefits), I always wanted professional development TOO.
HR is my passion so I want to get paid AND learn more, get professional experiences, etc.
@@HeyyyHR I did watch it but was just asking to make sure because I only heard state government you worked for.
@@MJ-ln4xm awesome, just wasn’t sure if you caught the part where I said after 5 years I realized I absolutely didn’t want to go higher. 🥴
What companies should you work for in HR that will pay you well?
Companies vary toooo much, but I did a video on industries that pay HR professionals comfortably. Here’s the link:
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Some government agencies have student loan repayment program where you get $10K per year up to $60K you’ll have to sign a service agreement for 3 years. You can make $$$$$ in government you have to apply for positions with promotion potential so you can go from entry level HR to making 6 figures in 3 year time frame. You can go from GS-07 ($51k/year) to GS-09 ($62k/year) in a year (52weeks) then to GS-11 (75k) the second year then to GS-12 (90k) the 3rd year. You just have to be smart and know the job announcements with promotion potential so you’ll move up a grade every year. Don’t just sit there and wait for someone to retire. Go get the grade you deserve because you’re eligible for the next grade after completing 52 weeks/ 1 year.
Thanks for sharing. This definitely helps those who want to marry into government HR. At 2 jobs in my HR career, I've gotten promotions in 3 months. At one job, I got 3 pay increases in one year and the third pay increase came with a promotion. Just want folks to make a decision that works best for them. There are options every where and that's enough to thank the Lord for. 🙌 💜