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- Noah confronts Claudia; in 1987, Egon visits Ulrich at the hospital!
Noah enfrenta Claudia; em 1987, Egon visita Ulrich no hospital!
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Noah confronts Claudia; in 1987, Egon visits Ulrich at the hospital!
Noah enfrenta Claudia; em 1987, Egon visita Ulrich no hospital!
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O que eu gosto desse episódio é que ele traz algo que até então a gente nem tinha parado pra pensar, que é sobre o Egon. A Claudia volta no tempo para falar com o pai dela e meio que se desculpar, pois as viagens no tempo dela meio que ferram a vida dele, que de fato, é um cara do bem que tá alí só fazendo o trabalho.
É, cara... Egon sem dúvida é uma vítima dessa loucura toda, coitado... e ele é meio ingênuo, só tá ali com uma "visão monocromática" das coisas - só pra brincar um pouco com os olhos bicolores da filha.
The main thing that people often forget in S2 is that it has been months since the majority of the events of S1 in each respective time period, unless specifically stated otherwise.
Mikkel/Michael's suicide was mid-2019 (June).
Late 2019 is after Jonas has been to a psychiatric facility for a couple of months and so on. In S2, his "native time" is then mid-2020, since he's been trapped in 2052/2053 for months.
Late 1986 is then mid-1987.
Late 1953 is then mid-1954.
If you went missing from your "original time" in S1, you've been missing for months by S2. Thus, young Helge's return is very surprising.
Right! That gap is indeed important to understand the chracters actions and reactions in season 2. Thanks!
Good job to the crew following along pretty good so far!! Very excited for the next episode.
Thanks! We're all very excited and eager for more!
Tava com saudades de Dark ❤❤
Eu também!
Eu acho que o menino Helge ficou sumido 7 meses, pq aparece o Egon falando que o Ulrich já estava preso há 7 meses (la nos anos 50) e ainda não tinha falado nada, e ele foi preso logo naquela epoca
Aaahhh legal, Leandro!!
Um tempo significativo até...
Time is not linear in that "Dark" universe 😀. Remember, in season 1 episode 10 Jonas and Helge touched through that "space-time hole". Jonas was drawn to the apocalyptic future and Helge to 1986. That's the point where he is now at the beginning of this episode.
Yes! Gotta keep that concept in mind haha!
Tannhaus' book (published by MINO TAUROS, like the creature in the maze in Ariadne mith):
- Copy 1: Helge bought it (1986?) ➡️ Helge keep it for years (until 2019) ➡️ Ulrich take it (2019) ➡️ it travelled 66 years in the past along Ulrich (1953) ➡️ Ulrich show the book to young Tannhaus, starting the Bootstrap paradox (1953)
- Copy 2: Helge bought it (1986?) ➡️ Helge gives it to Claudia (1986) ➡️ Claudia asks about the book to Helge (1987) ➡️ Claudia asks about the book to Tannhaus (1987)
Pocket watch ("For Charlotte"): Noah gave it to Elisabeth, for Charlotte (2019)
Triquetra Notebook:
- Old Claudia gave it to Tronte and Peter (2019) ➡️ Peter and Tronte read the dates of time travels (2019)
- Noah has a copy (all times), but the last pages are missing ➡️ Bartosz probably read some pages (2019-2020)
- Old Claudia has the missing pages (all times) ➡️ Noah took them after killing her (1954)
Time Machine:
- The Stranger arrives at Winden along with the broken machine (2019) ➡️ the Stranger shows the broken machine to Tannhaus, asking to repair it (1986) ➡️ Tannahus use the broken machine to finish the "younger" version (1986)
- Old Claudia showed to Tannhaus the blueprint (1953) ➡️ Tannhaus is still building the machine (1986) ➡️ Tannahus use the older machine as a model to finish this one (1986) ➡️ the Stranger is the new owner ➡️ Hannah and the Stranger traveled to 1987 to see Mikkel ➡️ the machine now is in 2020 along with the Stranger
- Old Claudia met Middle Age Claudia, and after the explanation she recharged the machine to travel (1987) ➡️ Old Claudia buried the machine (1954) ➡️ Middle Age Claudia found the machine (1987) ➡️ Claudia is the new owner
Saint Cristopher pendant:
- Jonas has it in 2052-2053
Mikkel's letter: Mikkel wrote it before his death (2019) ➡️ Ines found it and kept for her (2019) ➡️ Ines pass the letter to Jonas (2019) ➡️ ??? ➡️ The Stranger left the letter to Jonas (2019) ➡️ Jonas read the letter finding out his father's secret (2019) ➡️ Jonas destroys the letter (2019)
Ah, the objects... make me wonder about humans themselves being nothing more than pieces too... who have the illusion of freewill. But then again, who are we to say it isn't possible to change anything? Let us see.
"iii tá tendo filho"
Ah, a inocência...
Gosto da inocência... gera boas reações!
In Dark the dates seem connected to each other, with the interval being 33 years. It seems that the events are on the same plane of existence. Example: June 21, 1921 (Adam, young Noah, adult Noah, the dead man), June 21, 2020 (no longer 2019) (Hannah, the Stranger, Charlotte, ...) and June 21, 2053 (no longer 2052) are connected and events run parallel
2019 in the caves:
- Right Door: access to 1986 (-33 years)
- Left Door: access to 1953 (-66 years)
Probably in 2020, if the passage hadn't been closed, they had the passages to 1987 (right) and 1954 (left)
Wormholes experiences:
- Helge (1953) and Jonas (1986) they both traveled forward the time: Helge went to 1986 (+33 years), while Jonas traveled to 2052 (+66 years)
Great summary, as always! Thanks!
E se eu não me engano essa máquina do tempo (e o tunel) só podem fazer você viajar 33 anos exatos por vez. Então, se esses forem os unicos metodos que existem e que a Claudia tinha acesso, fica dificil ela voltar a aparecer velha, pq a segunda temporada ta seguindo cronologicamente dia apos dia até o apocalipse (desconsiderando o ano).
Então a Claudia velha só poderia aparecer se ela tiver um jeito diferente de viajar no tempo ou se a série quebrar o padrão narrativo de seguir contando cronologicamente os episodios (esse começou em 23 de junho de 1954/1987/2020, teoricamente o próximo vai ser dia 24 de junho de todos esses anos ou algum outros +/- 33 anos esses e assim por diante), ou variar pra contar a historia de algum ano entre esses “fixos” onde a historia acontece
Cara, excelentes observações! Não havia pensado sob essa ótica. Obrigado!
People either get it or not. Most don't but still can enjoy it to a degree. A notebook might help.
We are not getting everything, or even most of it. But we are certainly having a good time. Yes, a notebook might help.
@@reatores Don't worry. I can't even remember how much I understood at first watching. Think I've seen the whole show 3or 4 times by now.
(nao contem spoiler)
A máquina do olho é a primeira e a câmara é a segunda digamos assim, no bunker. Nao tem relação com o Helge estar mais velho ou mais novo nessa sala. De acordo com a sequencia estabelecida na serie O Noah e o helge fazem experimentos com erick e yasin meses antes do noah achar o helge no bunker em 86 depois de ele ter trocado de lugar com jonas no ep 1x10 (lembrando que se passaram 6 meses). Ele encontra helge e durante meses ele aprimora a maquina do tempo provavelmente com o helge mais velho e usa no helge crianca pra mandar ele de volta pra 57 pra que ele possa crescer normalmente ate virar o helge que conhecemos. O helge fica enta 6 meses desaparecido antes de voltar pra casa
Ahh que ótimo! Obrigado pela cronologia!
Uh, also in Italian we say "Fantasma" as Ghost (or Spirito as Spirit)
Oh! Cool!
Eu recomendo tbm vcs analisarem aquela foto. Tem em hd na internet
Beleza!
O Helge ajuda o Noah a sequestrar as crianças para testar a máquina no tempo justamente com o fim de funcionar para ele criança voltar no tempo.
Isso é muito legal! Como os personagens participam ativamente da própria história passada.
Holy shit.... 😅
I was curious.
I had no idea since recently that Dark was a German series.
Glad to see that you're not watching the horrible American dub. 😅
Now I'm curious if you guys are already better in German than I am in Portuguese... 🤭
I must admit, I haven't learned a lot...
I know "eo ache que..." and "gente".... etc, etc. ..
Pessoal...
Hahaha you definetely got more Portuguese than us got German! Although some words in German sounds very similar to English.
Victims of the time loop:
- Mikkel: stuck 33 years in the past without any possibility to travel back, coexisting with his younger self, knowing that his son and his childhood friend are the same person, living in the same town where there are his lost parents, he ended his live by suicide. 😭😭😭😭😭
- Helge: he tried to stop himself, but he failed, and unfortunately he died, keeping the time loop intact
- Old Claudia: with the knowledge of all events of time loop, she was killed by Noah 😭. You were a good player Claudia
It would be impossible for everyone to have happy endings in this loop... but I do feel for them, especially Mikkel!!
Si las 4 familias que estan conectadas
Jonas ulrich claudia y charlotte
Gracias!!