Dont let the comments get to you. It has always been clear to me this is informative entertainement rather than exact science. keep it up, I like it. P.S. love the comment about ppl looking at your videos on mute HA!
Well said! And yeah, so many seem to! "Have you tried this? I think it would be better if..." Me, looking at the fact that I state "I tried this, and it didn't work because" 😂
Tbf Benzie, if they watch it muted, it still counts as a view.... And the complaints are still 'engagement with the content'. So while it's annoying it still moves the needle.
I appreciate the time and effort you put into making your videos, Benzie! 🙏 It's just sad to hear (for the second time) that people are watching your videos on mute. For myself, I do the opposite actually. 😅 But, I do look at the video when you're demonstrating something. And sometimes I even rewind (if anyone ever uses that feature otherthen me) when I missed a part of the video or something you said. Anyways, Keep up the good work! 😁👍
Totally agree about passive fits - I love my Guristas ships but never run passive...it's boring! Also yep good call on the C3-X, pricey but complements Guristas nicely. You also get into that decision..do I use another dmg mod instead of shield recharge etc in the low and have 'rat removal rate' as tank, or just rely on actual tank. Kill them faster and they do less damage...always an interesting decision. I also personally use an AB on my Abyssal ships as I don't race around collecting loot, just permanent AB to cache then gate and to allow fast orbit and no scram issues. You really don't need a MWD IMHO. Finally..in the words of my super-experienced FC..."FOCUS FIRE, STOP SPLITTING DPS!!!". To go to extremes...split 5 drones/guns onto 5 different ships...take 5 ships worth of damage the ENTIRE time. Focus on ONE ship..take 5 ships worth of dmg for short time, then 4, then 3 etc etc. You get the idea ;). And yea if you had AB instead of MWD you could focus dmg-dealing rats and not worry so much about being scrammed. Just my 0.02c to help ya out :)
They often have good Amount of low slots as well as strong medium slot layout so you can fit rechargers etc in the lows in addition to shield extenders and hardeners. They also profit from strong resistance bonuses and large base shield HP, as guristas do. I abstain from tanking anything smaller than a cruiser with a passive fit as it’s very module/slot intensive but it works, as proven here by benzie
An active tank you can overheat for 30% more effectiveness of the modules, a passive tank does not use capacitor but it will break when your shield hit points go below 25% (not sure on the exact number), its a dance around the edge because your regeneration is at the highest point before it falls off and then you are basicly dead if you have not removed the dps like you have seen in the first room.
As stated below. But the main reason here to use passive is low capacitor and low PG so can't support an oversized booster, coupled with very large base Shield HP.
Prices will vary day to day, but T2 Gammas have been cheaper than Electrical for a while, and probably a bit easier to run with a Mamba (T2s in general are all pretty cheap, so pick your fave). Ultimately, it's going to depend on what the 'real' price of the Mamba is. Unless it's quite a bit cheaper than a Gila, it's hard to justify it (or, if you really want a Dessy, something like a Jackdaw).
Yeah, Electrics are always so expensive which is why I try to avoid them. As for cost, as I say, not everyone wants to fly a Gila. As much as I love Guristas, the Gila bores me something chronic, and not everyone wants Cruiser skills. Edit: In fact, the guy above you literally says his Alpha just skill capped as he topped off Destroyer skills. So for him, Gila is out of reach.
6 - Eifyr & Co. 'Rogue' for Afterburner/MWD 7 - Zainou 'Gnome' SM for bigger shields 8 - Zainout 'Deadeye' GP for missile application 9 - Zainou 'Snapshot' LM for missiles damage or Zainou 'Gnome' SP for shield recharge 10 - Zainou 'Deadeye' RL - rate of fire
could add like one hardener, would enhance the tank by alot and wouldnt hurt capacitor that much too, have it on at all times and you are going to passively regen more hp than your current fit (optimal passive regen focus is always 2 hardener as primary goal, 4 extender as secondary, and 1 mid slot recharger as tertiary but you can play around with it, fit extender if you worry capacitor) [Mamba, Passive Mamba] Dread Guristas Shield Flux Coil C3-X 'Hivaa Saitsuo' Ballistic Control System Thukker Small Shield Extender Caldari Navy Multispectrum Shield Hardener Thukker Small Shield Extender 5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive Light Missile Launcher II Light Missile Launcher II Light Missile Launcher II Light Missile Launcher II Light Missile Launcher II Light Missile Launcher II [Empty High slot] Small Core Defense Field Purger II Small Core Defense Field Purger II Small Core Defense Field Purger II Hobgoblin II x10 Inferno Fury Light Missile x4484 Inferno Precision Light Missile x2000 Scourge Fury Light Missile x3180 modified fit, change caldari navy hardener to compact if price is a concern, as a kiter you should be far in range from neuts so capacitor isnt really a concern for fast ships like that, focus out the drainer/starving first if you are concerned, pulse the mwd if mwd usage is needed, fight at range and loot after rats are dead, stay at a range and you will have the tank necessary and always keep the hardener on as best as you can
Thanks for revisiting this hull. I'm very interested in 'polishing the edge' of my experience with it when I'm finally able to undock one. With the active fit, an AB was used. And with this a MWD. Is the MWD mandatory, or could one get away with an upgrade AB?
@@captainbenzie my intent would be to run gamma filaments, so an AB and multispectral makes more sense. Especially with the obscene shield buff from the gamma abyss.
You need to be in a fleet (even if just with yourself) and use the Filaments from your cargo. One for a cruiser, two for a destroyer, three for a frigate
passive show case nice. just curious why you prefer flux coil over power relay? i take it's because you use MWD and prefer having cap? hehe i guess i use an AB and thats why i prefer running a power relay, cap isnt an issue, we get more total shields and regen, its minor increase to regen, but atleast it doesnt reduce total shields. apart from that, glad to see its gonna breeze through gamma t2. thats what i was hoping to upgrade too. my alpha just reached 5m skill points yesterday and getting destroyers upgraded was his last things hehe, i doubt he will be able to reach gila any time soon.
Talking about risks... Imagine joining a nullsec alliance, buying a porp, undocking it... and lose it 15 minutes later to a fleet of bombers what happened to pick me as their target There goes 360 mill isk What i learned from it? Avoid busy systems, and make the fit cheaper. Havent lost it since, and even if i do, i made its cost back almost completely. But i will switch to a mackinaw once i have the skills for t2 mining crystals Yes i am a dedicated miner/indy guy now
I just logged out for a day, I lost a ship, and spent 2m on 16 blasters in the station I was in and nothing shows up in my assets or item hanger. Not gonna lie I'm a bit pissed about it.
@@captainbenzie ya, twice I even took a bit to redo it because I thought they went to another station and took a phone call. Then I did it again and still nothing showed up in assets or in the item hanger and my isk wasn't returned. I bought it from a supply of 138. Game says both transactions completed but I got no product both tries.
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Dont let the comments get to you. It has always been clear to me this is informative entertainement rather than exact science. keep it up, I like it. P.S. love the comment about ppl looking at your videos on mute HA!
Well said! And yeah, so many seem to!
"Have you tried this? I think it would be better if..."
Me, looking at the fact that I state "I tried this, and it didn't work because" 😂
Tbf Benzie, if they watch it muted, it still counts as a view....
And the complaints are still 'engagement with the content'. So while it's annoying it still moves the needle.
@@ottomcannick7698 yeah true, I just don't like wasting people's time 😅
@@captainbenzie you provide content. If they dislike it and still watch, they've wasted their time. Not you.
@@ottomcannick7698 perhaps but I still will always try to find ways to improve and grow
The wolf does not concern itself with the opinions of the sheep. Great content! Keep doing your thing.
Haha thank you! 😂
I appreciate the time and effort you put into making your videos, Benzie! 🙏 It's just sad to hear (for the second time) that people are watching your videos on mute. For myself, I do the opposite actually. 😅 But, I do look at the video when you're demonstrating something. And sometimes I even rewind (if anyone ever uses that feature otherthen me) when I missed a part of the video or something you said. Anyways, Keep up the good work! 😁👍
I appreciate that!
Fan of your vids! Our corp had a run in with you guys today and had some fun!
Ah nice! Dark Venture?? Did see a message in local and responded, but probably too late.
Ya! I must've left before any local chat happened. GF though! @@captainbenzie
I just barely missed all the good fun, those two Bustard kills you guys won today was wild.
@@lifeinthefoyer8687 dude no kidding. Just right place at the right time. It should never have happened!
Totally agree about passive fits - I love my Guristas ships but never run passive...it's boring! Also yep good call on the C3-X, pricey but complements Guristas nicely. You also get into that decision..do I use another dmg mod instead of shield recharge etc in the low and have 'rat removal rate' as tank, or just rely on actual tank. Kill them faster and they do less damage...always an interesting decision.
I also personally use an AB on my Abyssal ships as I don't race around collecting loot, just permanent AB to cache then gate and to allow fast orbit and no scram issues. You really don't need a MWD IMHO.
Finally..in the words of my super-experienced FC..."FOCUS FIRE, STOP SPLITTING DPS!!!". To go to extremes...split 5 drones/guns onto 5 different ships...take 5 ships worth of damage the ENTIRE time. Focus on ONE ship..take 5 ships worth of dmg for short time, then 4, then 3 etc etc. You get the idea ;). And yea if you had AB instead of MWD you could focus dmg-dealing rats and not worry so much about being scrammed. Just my 0.02c to help ya out :)
Swapping to AB may be a good shout, but no way to fit more damage mods 😅
@captainbenzie Haha I'm all about the damage! 🧨 AB will also help with more cap and fitting room too 👍
Random ganker with a fleet of T1 dirt cheap destroyers seeing this: " Is this Christmas already?"
Always good stuff Capt Benzie!
Thank you!
Always enjoy your videos. Keep them coming!
Thanks, will do!
I subbed because you make mistakes - and i do make even more mistakes and so i learn from yours. Thats what making your videos valuable to me.
Glad to be able to help!!
Would the Anchoring Damavik have the same effect on a afterburner as it did with a Micro warp drive? No idea just asking.
No. Scrams switch off MWDs but do nothing to ABs.
What makes a ship more suitable for passive shield tank vs active?
They often have good Amount of low slots as well as strong medium slot layout so you can fit rechargers etc in the lows in addition to shield extenders and hardeners. They also profit from strong resistance bonuses and large base shield HP, as guristas do.
I abstain from tanking anything smaller than a cruiser with a passive fit as it’s very module/slot intensive but it works, as proven here by benzie
An active tank you can overheat for 30% more effectiveness of the modules, a passive tank does not use capacitor but it will break when your shield hit points go below 25% (not sure on the exact number), its a dance around the edge because your regeneration is at the highest point before it falls off and then you are basicly dead if you have not removed the dps like you have seen in the first room.
As stated below. But the main reason here to use passive is low capacitor and low PG so can't support an oversized booster, coupled with very large base Shield HP.
Prices will vary day to day, but T2 Gammas have been cheaper than Electrical for a while, and probably a bit easier to run with a Mamba (T2s in general are all pretty cheap, so pick your fave). Ultimately, it's going to depend on what the 'real' price of the Mamba is. Unless it's quite a bit cheaper than a Gila, it's hard to justify it (or, if you really want a Dessy, something like a Jackdaw).
Yeah, Electrics are always so expensive which is why I try to avoid them. As for cost, as I say, not everyone wants to fly a Gila. As much as I love Guristas, the Gila bores me something chronic, and not everyone wants Cruiser skills.
Edit: In fact, the guy above you literally says his Alpha just skill capped as he topped off Destroyer skills. So for him, Gila is out of reach.
What Boosters and / or implants would you recommend if you were to use them?
6 - Eifyr & Co. 'Rogue' for Afterburner/MWD
7 - Zainou 'Gnome' SM for bigger shields
8 - Zainout 'Deadeye' GP for missile application
9 - Zainou 'Snapshot' LM for missiles damage or Zainou 'Gnome' SP for shield recharge
10 - Zainou 'Deadeye' RL - rate of fire
could add like one hardener, would enhance the tank by alot and wouldnt hurt capacitor that much too, have it on at all times and you are going to passively regen more hp than your current fit (optimal passive regen focus is always 2 hardener as primary goal, 4 extender as secondary, and 1 mid slot recharger as tertiary but you can play around with it, fit extender if you worry capacitor)
[Mamba, Passive Mamba]
Dread Guristas Shield Flux Coil
C3-X 'Hivaa Saitsuo' Ballistic Control System
Thukker Small Shield Extender
Caldari Navy Multispectrum Shield Hardener
Thukker Small Shield Extender
5MN Quad LiF Restrained Microwarpdrive
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
Light Missile Launcher II
[Empty High slot]
Small Core Defense Field Purger II
Small Core Defense Field Purger II
Small Core Defense Field Purger II
Hobgoblin II x10
Inferno Fury Light Missile x4484
Inferno Precision Light Missile x2000
Scourge Fury Light Missile x3180
modified fit, change caldari navy hardener to compact if price is a concern, as a kiter you should be far in range from neuts so capacitor isnt really a concern for fast ships like that, focus out the drainer/starving first if you are concerned, pulse the mwd if mwd usage is needed, fight at range and loot after rats are dead, stay at a range and you will have the tank necessary and always keep the hardener on as best as you can
I had considered swapping to an AB rather than MWD too.
@@captainbenzie ab works, now you can have it on pretty much at all times along with hardener, better overall
Thanks for revisiting this hull. I'm very interested in 'polishing the edge' of my experience with it when I'm finally able to undock one.
With the active fit, an AB was used. And with this a MWD.
Is the MWD mandatory, or could one get away with an upgrade AB?
I've been thinking about this a lot and I think I may swap to a Deadspace AB and drop an Extender for a Multispectrum... I'm still playing 😂
@@captainbenzie my intent would be to run gamma filaments, so an AB and multispectral makes more sense. Especially with the obscene shield buff from the gamma abyss.
Still crazy in love with this hull. Time to polish the Edge on a Gamma Fit
Good luck!
Would a single multispectrum not help with overall tank since resists would be higher?
Maybe
Great video thanks I don't know how to get into abyssal space how do you?
You need to be in a fleet (even if just with yourself) and use the Filaments from your cargo. One for a cruiser, two for a destroyer, three for a frigate
passive show case nice.
just curious why you prefer flux coil over power relay? i take it's because you use MWD and prefer having cap? hehe
i guess i use an AB and thats why i prefer running a power relay, cap isnt an issue, we get more total shields and regen, its minor increase to regen, but atleast it doesnt reduce total shields.
apart from that, glad to see its gonna breeze through gamma t2. thats what i was hoping to upgrade too.
my alpha just reached 5m skill points yesterday and getting destroyers upgraded was his last things hehe, i doubt he will be able to reach gila any time soon.
Nice, and an excellent reason to give the "why not use a Gila" crew!
Yay another captain B. Video ❤ did you Check out the mass test earlier? A lot of fun the new systems in the warzone.
I'll check it out!
I get 20EHP more tank per second with 1 invul so maybe worth a shot?
As I say, absolutely play with the fit to make it work for you. 😊
You don't have to defend yourself mate, play and post how you like, F the haters.
Haha thank you
Nice upgrades. Your destroyer has more dps and a better tank than my Rapid Light Caracal 😥
Caracal is a lot cheaper though, very different ships 😉
Use nirvana mate with some drone and missle implants as well or some cap and cpu implants with the nirvana should give you an awesome tank
Great tip!
I rarely run passive tank, so I get it. I fly for crap too but I build a good ship so it doesn't matter as much haha.
Fair enough!
May the algorithm be kind and help you out! 😆
Haha thank you!
Talking about risks...
Imagine joining a nullsec alliance, buying a porp, undocking it... and lose it 15 minutes later to a fleet of bombers what happened to pick me as their target
There goes 360 mill isk
What i learned from it?
Avoid busy systems, and make the fit cheaper.
Havent lost it since, and even if i do, i made its cost back almost completely. But i will switch to a mackinaw once i have the skills for t2 mining crystals
Yes i am a dedicated miner/indy guy now
I'd say that would teach me not to fly solo and to have intel but glad you're enjoying! Good luck with the Mackinaw!
I just logged out for a day, I lost a ship, and spent 2m on 16 blasters in the station I was in and nothing shows up in my assets or item hanger. Not gonna lie I'm a bit pissed about it.
Are you certain you bought them at the same station? I've done it many times where its another station in system accidentally
@@captainbenzie ya, twice I even took a bit to redo it because I thought they went to another station and took a phone call. Then I did it again and still nothing showed up in assets or in the item hanger and my isk wasn't returned. I bought it from a supply of 138. Game says both transactions completed but I got no product both tries.
[Mamba, Mamba abyss? $$$$$]
C3-X 'Hivaa Saitsuo' Ballistic Control System
C3-X 'Hivaa Saitsuo' Ballistic Control System
Gistum A-Type Medium Shield Booster
1MN Analog Booster Afterburner
Republic Fleet Small Cap Battery
Domination Multispectrum Shield Hardener
Domination Light Missile Launcher
Domination Light Missile Launcher
Domination Light Missile Launcher
Domination Light Missile Launcher
Domination Light Missile Launcher
Domination Light Missile Launcher
Small Capacitor Control Circuit II
Small Thermal Shield Reinforcer II
Small EM Shield Reinforcer II
'Augmented' Hobgoblin x2
Scourge Fury Light Missile x678
Great fit!
@@captainbenzie yeah hes practically a loot pinata .
Erhm, maybe remove the Cap Boosters from the fit? :D
Yeah were just on the cargo lmao
I love your Vids and keep up the good work but please for the love of God STOP Apologizing !!!!
😂
I clicked the link on my over 13 year old, 167m sp acct, and got a free million sp, frikkin insane!
Excellent!
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😂 thank you!!
First one here :P
Congratulations!!
Im not here to learn how to die.
Then you'll fail at EVE. Learning to grow beyond the mistakes is how you win.
@@captainbenzie Thats like, your opinion man.
thx for 1mil skill points on 12 yr old acc
Awesome! Glad to help!