Which is good actually because now we can use aetherite ASAP to teleport to nexus arcade or the vue. Earlier we have to move forward a bit before we can use aetherite
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@Takyomi what I've always appreciated is it never feels like "youtubers" running a podcast, there's never any stiff overly produced scriptedness, it just feels like a group of people passionate about the game sitting down to talk about it. Not to mention mogmail, those segments really help build a more communal feeling, and promotes a lot healthier of a discussion since there has to be effort put into the submissions.
See, the thing is ... Wuk Lamat *doesn't* listen to the WoL's advice, because WE HARDLY EVER GIVE ANY. She listens to Alisaie and occasionally Alphie or Krile, and we smile and nod in agreement. That's why I agree the *intent* was that we're mentoring her, but the way it's written and portrayed undermines it severely. (and this is NOT her fault, obviously, I just want to shake the writers by the shoulders)
A lot of people talk of mentoring about this story, but actually mentoring is completely something different. It is teaching how to do things, correct the mistakes and offer constructive criticism, that is a nutshell. What the WoL does is nod and smile nothing else, so cannot be considered mentorship but it is nice to use the word as it is trendy and makes this summertime babysitting job somehow meaningful.
@@The4thHorsemanIT I agree. When I think of a mentor, I think of someone like Kakashi-who actively tries to teach Team 7 things like teamwork and how to think like a ninja-or Mr Feeny who gave perspective and made complicated concepts simple. I think we give her advice like two or three times, one of them was basically a pat on the back.
Wuk Lamat has two points of character growth. 1) She gets over her fear of Llamas. It's cute. 2) She learns that she can't do everything on her own and that it is okay to rely on others. This is a perfectly fine bit of character growth in any story. However, for Wuk Lamat it is dumb. Before Dawntrail she specifically seeks out people to HELP HER with the Ascension. Yet when we get to Tural she forgets that she recruited people to help her and tries to do things on her own only to re-learn to rely on others. Others that she went out of her way to recruit in order to help her in the first place because she knew she couldn't do it alone.
I'm saying this with love. Wuk Lamat will be the new eureka/relic weapon for Speakers. That is to say, all discourse, every single discussion, no matter what the mogmail says - everything eventually leads back to this topic.
On the pacing letter: I'm having a tough time seeing how "This is my second favourite expansion" and all the criticism that follows (all very valid btw) fit together. For me this expansion's msq is firmly in last place. I can't really tell if I'd place it above or below ARR, cause it's been so long that I can't really recall all the details and feelings I had about that one, but I can confidently say that of the expansions, in terms of pacing, stakes, gameplay during msq (Dungeons and trials notwithstanding), character depth, growth & competence and overall themes that this was a complete miss from Square. I don't think that during ARR I ever felt as bored and disconnected as I did with DT, but that one did also have its very uninteresting moments. How anyone would place this above Heavensward and Endwalker, neither of which, at least in my opinion, suffer from the criticisms the writer of the letter puts on DT, is beyond me.
I'm someone that puts DT over HW because for me, other than the drama of dragonsong war and the patch content it was boring and I don't care for the locations it brought. Mind you I don't see the expansion as bad, just a bit bland with a few highlights. With DT, aside from the moblin area and the train arc, everything looked gorgeous and discovering bits of lore connecting back to Eorzea, Amurot and even the First were fun highlights. I enjoyed the little rite of succession contest and with wishful thinking, thought our own political leaders should do the same lol. The story started to dip for me when we got to Sphene but Solution 9 was such eye candy it made up for it. Then you have the dungeons and raids which have a pain but fun at the same time. I love EW, but it too had chunks of boring bits as well but the story and spectacle of it also made up for its short comings. For me it's EW > ShB > DT > HW > StB > ARR
The difference between ARR and DT is that ARR, at least for me, made me want more. DT fails on that. It has already prepared me to expect low quality in MSQ like we got from 6.1~6.55. ResidentSleeper part 2. The rest of the content, is up in the air but the MSQ is solid bottom tier for me.
I would place it above Heavensward myself from replaying the entire MSQ before DT launched. I would argue it had different problems that matched or exceeded DT problems : The B plot of bringing Nanamo back, Adding the Garleans in its final hours to Azys Lla only to forget after you beat Thordan with you leaving the area to fly back to Ishgard for a happy ending credits included only for it to not be addressed unless you do patch side content in particular Containment Bay to name a few. And then the patch story by itself without Shadowbringers to come later to carry what was started there the Warriors of Darkness story did not hold interest and almost felt like throwaway episodes of any old science fiction or kids TV show where alternate universe "EVIL" versions of the main characters come to fight the main characters. Then on the gameplay side of things Heavensward was a mess at launch in comparison. The most insulting the game can be is when it forces the player base to abandon jobs because game design. I can also point at the deleted first attempt at Field Operaton content. Zones having few teleport points meant a lot more walking during the run time.
Bakool Ja Ja's popularity isn't just the thirst or memes though and I will not stand for this slander! He's genuinely got a really fantastic arc that's told really well, to the point where Zoraal Ja's whole deal feels even less fleshed out in comparison lmao. and i still really like what they were going for with him, Zoraal Ja's got "eldest daughter syndrome" *bad* and i know a lot of people can relate and their use of his trial for character beats was really good, probably some of the best so far in the game. Bakool Ja Ja's whole deal is the pressure from his village and especially his parents and never measuring up to those expectations with the weight of *hundreds of dead children* on his shoulders. When he said that he felt he should've never been born, it all clicked into place for me about why he was Like That before. Him freeing the Skyruin in particular was a way to display of how, on some level, he doesn't care if something comes and burns the whole world down because he's never been good enough for what his village wants from him and knows it deep down. I do hope we get more on him actually addressing his wrongdoings in the patches, I think he'd make an /excellent/ optional trial quest companion in particular. I really look forward to seeing what they do with him and the rest of Mamook in the future. Plus there's something to be said about how overdue we are for a meathead type character, DT has a ton of really refreshing character types to choose from and I wasn't expecting to enjoy the cartoon villain lizard who stepped on my tacos this much.
It's funny. I finished DT MSQ day three of early access and I actually commented on how much better the pace was. I did MSQ and all the sidequests and whatever fates I could get my hands on. I really took my time and enjoyed it. Yet - I felt from zone to zone each one was well paced in the sense I wasn't there long. I understand the lack of "Combat" quests but that's been a staple for some time I'm not sure if it has more or less than others do. I do find the people saying you're in Tuliyollal for too long must have memory erased the Sharlyan tour we did in EW. Because it was paced out exactly the same way.
having less combat in MSQ is likely a side effect of them having more combat focused content in patch content - we're supposedly getting epxloration zones in 7.2, trial series, ultimate, etc etc... we have lots of combat on the way, it just usually doesnt drop on launch. people forget that dawntrail lasts 2-3 years not just 7.0
Honey B Lovely got a lot of implied story in the song and her voicelines during the fight. She didn't need anything more, most people can understand her personality and personal history from that and their tacit knowledge of general streamers/vtubers.
her and Wicked Thunder were really excellent storytelling fights, the desperation, the frustration, both for very different reasons but they really stand out from most other normal raid bosses in that way. i would love to see more of her later on where she's not performing and just herself, too. i'm kinda hoping we at least try to warn the other fighters about the whole soul degradation thing, her and her legion of fans would make for interesting allies/obstacles down the road.
I think it's mentioned in the MIN/BTN quests that there are more female Shetona than male, and it goes into more detail on how their society/family structure works. The males typically have multiple families in different places and lead a more nomadic lifestyle.
I wonder if Snowcloak is going to be showcased with some sort of new graphics engine updates. If the ice gets the aetheryte crystal treatment it could be a spectacle. As far as the NPC rankings, I think it's pretty telling that the first comment made is denegrating to the west "They don't have the same issues that we have in regards to how there are people in the western fanbase that dislike Wuk Lamat for reasons outside of her character..." rather than considering that if a character is widely unpopular in multiple places, maybe it's the character? Rather than gaslight, consider the common factors. Wuk Lamat wasn't a bad character as a character, she was very poorly written. The voice performance was perfectly fine, it was just terribly directed. This was the case for a lot of performances. I don't know if they used a new studio (since they recorded in thew US for the first time) or new director. She was a stereotypical Mary Sue. She was never actually challenged. She succeeded at every single thing she attempted without fail and the only token resistance was a thin lack of self confidence that amounted to just needing another character to say "You can do it!" so she immediately does. They realized that she had few to zero character flaws so they said "Ok, afraid of heights, alpacas, and seasick constantly" and then played those things for jokes every couple of hours ad nauseum not to forget she rode on a boat three times in 6.5 had had nothing but fun, rode a zip line across a massive chasm three times and had nothing but fun. Then she forgot what a zipline was and had to have it explained to her in the final zone.
When people say "the character wasn't bad, it was badly written" is a little odd, usually a character is good BECAUSE it's well written, are there any examples of terrible characters that are wonderfully written?
@@rickydargence5948IMO Viserys from GoT. A brat prince that is unlikeable and have no trait except a (supposedly) legitimate heir to iron throne. He is now forgotten. Well written up to his death when you watch the first season though
second comment for the youtube gods and also i got tilted about Y'shtola's lack of writing again. Y'shtola's main humanizing element in my experience as a Y'shtola lover is that she's got a sort of "false bravado". she has a version of herself she presents and doesn't let anyone get close to her emotionally, for her she'd much rather appear as this aloof mage and i think that really feeds into her recklessness with magic! she, on some level, probably aspired to be a specific type of person as a child living with Matoya and has a very specific self image in mind in how she presents herself. Hell I'd even say that's part of why she usually discusses WoL's well-being in private, sure the EW scene is optional but it's there and canon on some level for the Scions to feel that way. *and then they never fucking do anything with any of that* and honestly it kinda pissed me off that we got the first real humanizing scenes with Y'shtola being just the tiniest bit goofy or fallible in the EW patches and then Yoshi P was immediately like "yeah we're not doing that again" like WHY NOT??? LET HER BE A REAL CHARACTER FOR ONCE!!! her main other trait is like, sassy but caring about the wellbeing of others and she's only ever sassed like 2 leaders in all of xiv and one of them was Magnai so he doesn't count. None of that plays into the void storyline so far besides her changing Drippy's incantation. Nothing about her interactions with Zero required her to open up. Nothing in the Void required her to do something reckless and get called out for it. They just. /refuse/ to do anything with her and I'm so so so tired. Granted I'm partway convinced that the second they give her an arc she's going to either die for real or get shipped off to a cave/the First and never be seen again.
Regarding that first Mogmail: they have a place to lore dump, that unending Codex that came with EW, they could dump all the tacos and burritos in there instead of 10 paragraphs about how not peruvians love mezcal, a mexican beverage, or how not amazonians love burritos, a mexican food...
I would say about Sphene, it was VERY heavy handed how she was picking and choosing what to show to us to make herself look good and trustworthy. Now the secondary issue here is that I'm not so sure that's how it was supposed to read. I actually get the feeling that this was supposed to feel organic and not like she was making a deliberate effort to make a good impression. Like she just so happened to care so much about a sick kid and some cabbage, not like she was giving us the tour of AND HERE IS HOW MUCH CHARITY WORK I DO LOOK AT ME I'M SUCH A GOOD RULER. I'm honestly not sure what to think about this.
I prefer to not think about endwalker patches, the only thing it liked was the omicron beast tribes. They were legitimately cool and the mount is neat. Its weird how endwalkers patches have absolutely nothing to do with anything, no other expansions patches has been like that.
Most notably, the Omicron tribe quests are the epilogue for Endwalker. The patches proper are a compressed expansion, the Pandemonium raids were exhausting after Asphodelos and apparently imply even more unneeded positives about Venat, and the stuff not about those two are pretty much the foreshadowing towards all aspects of Dawntrail.
You realize it's a fictional character and doesn't exist without writing to support it, right? You DO hate the character BECAUSE of their writing. There's nothing wrong with that.
@Null_Experis What even is this question? Duh, it isn't a real character. Please do not attempt to "correct me" and tell me what I do or do not "hate." I know what I said.
@@VoxfluxWhat you said is nonsense lol. It logically does not make sense. Wuk Lamat IS her writing. End of story. That is how a written canon narrative exists. It doesnt matter that they animated her and added visuals and sound. She is only comprised of her writing. Delusional lol
@@cb3490 Only one here that is "delusional" is you. Getting this hyped up over someone's level headed opinion. *Imagine thinking you can only have extreme thoughts or emotions* "End of Story" indeed. Touch Grass.
@@Voxflux A character is their writing. Everything else is design. If you dislike the writing, you have a fundamental dislike of the character, no matter how much you like their design.
Is this a riddle or are you just being weird? If you suspect a player is botting you should report it in-game. Posting about it in the comment section of a FFXIV podcast isn't going to do anything. We are not FFXIV GMs and this isn't customer support.
@@DeletedUser57346 Use the literal in-game tools to report it. Report this to any of our FC officer in-game if you're so aversed to using the tools that exist in-game to report cheating. Provide proof of this "prolific botting" (not in this comment section), and action will be taken. I am not going to investigate individual members based on a *RUclips comment* by someone with the username "DeletedUser57346". It's not my responsibilty to make sure every member follows the rules, and it's not my responsibility to resolve personal beef between players. If someone is botting, I expect the community to report the offending player (IN-GAME) and have the FC officers and GMs punish or remove them from the game. So no, Lukile Bravestone does not allow polific botting to happen in his FC day in day out - he also doesn't allow members to be ejected based on a comment made by a throwaway account on RUclips.
*"Give props to the writers"... yeah you guys lost me there, sorry. (And this is the first video that came across my recommendations in all my years playing FFXIV)* It was on the level of 'my summer holiday story' of a elementary school kid with Wuk Lamat being the elementary school kid. "And then I went to the big birds and there was this festival and we danced. And then I went to the funny duck people with the Lamas. Lamas are scary, but I was very brave and even rode one. And then I went to the giants and they were giant... and then I met Speeeen. Speeen is my very very best friend forever now....but my brother was a total meanie all the time and then Speeen was a meanie too, so I was sad that I lost my bestest of best friends, but I'm sure Speeen isn't even that mean, so...." That's Dawntrail's writing. If you want to give credit for that abomination, you also have to give credit to every person on the planet, because compared to that a shopping list is thought provoking poetry! Just saying... Also I doubt anyone near the Bard quest had anything to do with it, because that one was decent and obviously written by an adult with the capability to think and therefore write like an adult. So either the poor person who has written the Bard quest has suffered extreme brain damage in the meantime or I would press X to doubt that anyone was involved in this msq who wrote anything before aside from "xyzs yoghurt. Don't touch" for this game. There is a gigantic difference between being an unexperienced writer and being simply incompetent. Whoever wrote vast parts of the msq (singular or multiple people) is obviously incompetent, because being able to write interesting characters and scenarios and most of all write what PR has promised (a vacation, adventure, direct contest with the scions, Erenvilles and Kriles story explored indepth, setup for the next 10 years with the introduction of new and interesting characters - of which is non to be found in the msq, just hours and hours of babysitting and like I said elementary school kid level of dialogue) is not because someone is inexperienced but rather a skill and talent issue. You can learn the basics of good storytelling, but that's something they should have learned before getting hired to write for such a big project. That's what education is for. But you can't learn to create stories that make people forget that it's just a story. And if the best they could come up with given the chance to write for such a big project, for such a big audience was 'Wuk Lamats summer vacation story' as full grown adults with (I assume) an education in this particular field, then maybe they should look for a field of work that suits them better, because what they delivered was - in my opinion - the worst writing I've seen in years. To be fair, if they intended to write this story for 4-6 year old kids, it's decent. I just don't understand where dead babies and mass deletion á la "I don't consider you truly alive, therefore I'm not guilty of m.... you" fits into the whole Disney channel for toddlers and pre-school kids type story. I won't bash anyone that likes it, people like all kinds of stuff, but from an objectiv perspective considering the topics and way to tackle it that came before and even the age rating of the game, the DT msq was an inconsistent, in major parts boring failure that neither delivered what it promised nor understood the age group this game was previously made for. *To sum it up: I'm not a person that believes in everyone needs to get a participation trophy even if their attempt was a complete failure, so they don't get any applause from me for the few ok-ish parts you can count on one hand. It's just not even anywhere close to the level I expect a story written by adults for adults to be. It's an incompetent and immature piece, written by someone that had the chance to write something brilliant, but wasn't capable to produce anything better than someone in third grade, just with more words.*
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I am happy to report that the horrible teleport positions for Solution 9 has been fixed as of Patch 7.05!!!
Which is good actually because now we can use aetherite ASAP to teleport to nexus arcade or the vue. Earlier we have to move forward a bit before we can use aetherite
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this! you guys are really fun to listen to
@Takyomi what I've always appreciated is it never feels like "youtubers" running a podcast, there's never any stiff overly produced scriptedness, it just feels like a group of people passionate about the game sitting down to talk about it. Not to mention mogmail, those segments really help build a more communal feeling, and promotes a lot healthier of a discussion since there has to be effort put into the submissions.
yes, id be sad if the videos stopped, i look forward to every wednesday except sometimes thursday!
Omg yeah I've never listened to it on a podcast platform only RUclips. I love it
See, the thing is ... Wuk Lamat *doesn't* listen to the WoL's advice, because WE HARDLY EVER GIVE ANY. She listens to Alisaie and occasionally Alphie or Krile, and we smile and nod in agreement. That's why I agree the *intent* was that we're mentoring her, but the way it's written and portrayed undermines it severely.
(and this is NOT her fault, obviously, I just want to shake the writers by the shoulders)
A lot of people talk of mentoring about this story, but actually mentoring is completely something different. It is teaching how to do things, correct the mistakes and offer constructive criticism, that is a nutshell. What the WoL does is nod and smile nothing else, so cannot be considered mentorship but it is nice to use the word as it is trendy and makes this summertime babysitting job somehow meaningful.
@@The4thHorsemanIT I agree. When I think of a mentor, I think of someone like Kakashi-who actively tries to teach Team 7 things like teamwork and how to think like a ninja-or Mr Feeny who gave perspective and made complicated concepts simple. I think we give her advice like two or three times, one of them was basically a pat on the back.
Wuk Lamat has two points of character growth.
1) She gets over her fear of Llamas. It's cute.
2) She learns that she can't do everything on her own and that it is okay to rely on others. This is a perfectly fine bit of character growth in any story. However, for Wuk Lamat it is dumb. Before Dawntrail she specifically seeks out people to HELP HER with the Ascension. Yet when we get to Tural she forgets that she recruited people to help her and tries to do things on her own only to re-learn to rely on others. Others that she went out of her way to recruit in order to help her in the first place because she knew she couldn't do it alone.
I'm saying this with love. Wuk Lamat will be the new eureka/relic weapon for Speakers. That is to say, all discourse, every single discussion, no matter what the mogmail says - everything eventually leads back to this topic.
i can see it haha
On the pacing letter: I'm having a tough time seeing how "This is my second favourite expansion" and all the criticism that follows (all very valid btw) fit together. For me this expansion's msq is firmly in last place. I can't really tell if I'd place it above or below ARR, cause it's been so long that I can't really recall all the details and feelings I had about that one, but I can confidently say that of the expansions, in terms of pacing, stakes, gameplay during msq (Dungeons and trials notwithstanding), character depth, growth & competence and overall themes that this was a complete miss from Square. I don't think that during ARR I ever felt as bored and disconnected as I did with DT, but that one did also have its very uninteresting moments. How anyone would place this above Heavensward and Endwalker, neither of which, at least in my opinion, suffer from the criticisms the writer of the letter puts on DT, is beyond me.
I'm someone that puts DT over HW because for me, other than the drama of dragonsong war and the patch content it was boring and I don't care for the locations it brought. Mind you I don't see the expansion as bad, just a bit bland with a few highlights. With DT, aside from the moblin area and the train arc, everything looked gorgeous and discovering bits of lore connecting back to Eorzea, Amurot and even the First were fun highlights. I enjoyed the little rite of succession contest and with wishful thinking, thought our own political leaders should do the same lol. The story started to dip for me when we got to Sphene but Solution 9 was such eye candy it made up for it. Then you have the dungeons and raids which have a pain but fun at the same time.
I love EW, but it too had chunks of boring bits as well but the story and spectacle of it also made up for its short comings. For me it's
EW > ShB > DT > HW > StB > ARR
The difference between ARR and DT is that ARR, at least for me, made me want more. DT fails on that. It has already prepared me to expect low quality in MSQ like we got from 6.1~6.55. ResidentSleeper part 2.
The rest of the content, is up in the air but the MSQ is solid bottom tier for me.
@@ASZzztoluca I agree with this. DT is the last by a long shot. I do not want to see any more of this expansion's story.
I would place it above Heavensward myself from replaying the entire MSQ before DT launched. I would argue it had different problems that matched or exceeded DT problems : The B plot of bringing Nanamo back, Adding the Garleans in its final hours to Azys Lla only to forget after you beat Thordan with you leaving the area to fly back to Ishgard for a happy ending credits included only for it to not be addressed unless you do patch side content in particular Containment Bay to name a few. And then the patch story by itself without Shadowbringers to come later to carry what was started there the Warriors of Darkness story did not hold interest and almost felt like throwaway episodes of any old science fiction or kids TV show where alternate universe "EVIL" versions of the main characters come to fight the main characters.
Then on the gameplay side of things Heavensward was a mess at launch in comparison. The most insulting the game can be is when it forces the player base to abandon jobs because game design. I can also point at the deleted first attempt at Field Operaton content. Zones having few teleport points meant a lot more walking during the run time.
Bakool Ja Ja's popularity isn't just the thirst or memes though and I will not stand for this slander! He's genuinely got a really fantastic arc that's told really well, to the point where Zoraal Ja's whole deal feels even less fleshed out in comparison lmao. and i still really like what they were going for with him, Zoraal Ja's got "eldest daughter syndrome" *bad* and i know a lot of people can relate and their use of his trial for character beats was really good, probably some of the best so far in the game.
Bakool Ja Ja's whole deal is the pressure from his village and especially his parents and never measuring up to those expectations with the weight of *hundreds of dead children* on his shoulders. When he said that he felt he should've never been born, it all clicked into place for me about why he was Like That before.
Him freeing the Skyruin in particular was a way to display of how, on some level, he doesn't care if something comes and burns the whole world down because he's never been good enough for what his village wants from him and knows it deep down.
I do hope we get more on him actually addressing his wrongdoings in the patches, I think he'd make an /excellent/ optional trial quest companion in particular. I really look forward to seeing what they do with him and the rest of Mamook in the future.
Plus there's something to be said about how overdue we are for a meathead type character, DT has a ton of really refreshing character types to choose from and I wasn't expecting to enjoy the cartoon villain lizard who stepped on my tacos this much.
I wish there was more leveling options for alt jobs that are engaging other than grinding roulettes
We got a thing called FATEs, deep dungeons, and beast tribes.
It's funny. I finished DT MSQ day three of early access and I actually commented on how much better the pace was.
I did MSQ and all the sidequests and whatever fates I could get my hands on. I really took my time and enjoyed it.
Yet - I felt from zone to zone each one was well paced in the sense I wasn't there long.
I understand the lack of "Combat" quests but that's been a staple for some time I'm not sure if it has more or less than others do.
I do find the people saying you're in Tuliyollal for too long must have memory erased the Sharlyan tour we did in EW. Because it was paced out exactly the same way.
having less combat in MSQ is likely a side effect of them having more combat focused content in patch content - we're supposedly getting epxloration zones in 7.2, trial series, ultimate, etc etc... we have lots of combat on the way, it just usually doesnt drop on launch. people forget that dawntrail lasts 2-3 years not just 7.0
Honey B Lovely got a lot of implied story in the song and her voicelines during the fight. She didn't need anything more, most people can understand her personality and personal history from that and their tacit knowledge of general streamers/vtubers.
her and Wicked Thunder were really excellent storytelling fights, the desperation, the frustration, both for very different reasons but they really stand out from most other normal raid bosses in that way.
i would love to see more of her later on where she's not performing and just herself, too. i'm kinda hoping we at least try to warn the other fighters about the whole soul degradation thing, her and her legion of fans would make for interesting allies/obstacles down the road.
I think it's mentioned in the MIN/BTN quests that there are more female Shetona than male, and it goes into more detail on how their society/family structure works. The males typically have multiple families in different places and lead a more nomadic lifestyle.
I wonder if Snowcloak is going to be showcased with some sort of new graphics engine updates. If the ice gets the aetheryte crystal treatment it could be a spectacle.
As far as the NPC rankings, I think it's pretty telling that the first comment made is denegrating to the west "They don't have the same issues that we have in regards to how there are people in the western fanbase that dislike Wuk Lamat for reasons outside of her character..." rather than considering that if a character is widely unpopular in multiple places, maybe it's the character? Rather than gaslight, consider the common factors.
Wuk Lamat wasn't a bad character as a character, she was very poorly written. The voice performance was perfectly fine, it was just terribly directed. This was the case for a lot of performances. I don't know if they used a new studio (since they recorded in thew US for the first time) or new director. She was a stereotypical Mary Sue. She was never actually challenged. She succeeded at every single thing she attempted without fail and the only token resistance was a thin lack of self confidence that amounted to just needing another character to say "You can do it!" so she immediately does. They realized that she had few to zero character flaws so they said "Ok, afraid of heights, alpacas, and seasick constantly" and then played those things for jokes every couple of hours ad nauseum not to forget she rode on a boat three times in 6.5 had had nothing but fun, rode a zip line across a massive chasm three times and had nothing but fun. Then she forgot what a zipline was and had to have it explained to her in the final zone.
When people say "the character wasn't bad, it was badly written" is a little odd, usually a character is good BECAUSE it's well written, are there any examples of terrible characters that are wonderfully written?
@@rickydargence5948IMO Viserys from GoT. A brat prince that is unlikeable and have no trait except a (supposedly) legitimate heir to iron throne. He is now forgotten. Well written up to his death when you watch the first season though
second comment for the youtube gods and also i got tilted about Y'shtola's lack of writing again.
Y'shtola's main humanizing element in my experience as a Y'shtola lover is that she's got a sort of "false bravado". she has a version of herself she presents and doesn't let anyone get close to her emotionally, for her she'd much rather appear as this aloof mage and i think that really feeds into her recklessness with magic! she, on some level, probably aspired to be a specific type of person as a child living with Matoya and has a very specific self image in mind in how she presents herself.
Hell I'd even say that's part of why she usually discusses WoL's well-being in private, sure the EW scene is optional but it's there and canon on some level for the Scions to feel that way.
*and then they never fucking do anything with any of that*
and honestly it kinda pissed me off that we got the first real humanizing scenes with Y'shtola being just the tiniest bit goofy or fallible in the EW patches and then Yoshi P was immediately like "yeah we're not doing that again" like WHY NOT??? LET HER BE A REAL CHARACTER FOR ONCE!!! her main other trait is like, sassy but caring about the wellbeing of others and she's only ever sassed like 2 leaders in all of xiv and one of them was Magnai so he doesn't count.
None of that plays into the void storyline so far besides her changing Drippy's incantation. Nothing about her interactions with Zero required her to open up. Nothing in the Void required her to do something reckless and get called out for it. They just. /refuse/ to do anything with her and I'm so so so tired.
Granted I'm partway convinced that the second they give her an arc she's going to either die for real or get shipped off to a cave/the First and never be seen again.
Regarding that first Mogmail: they have a place to lore dump, that unending Codex that came with EW, they could dump all the tacos and burritos in there instead of 10 paragraphs about how not peruvians love mezcal, a mexican beverage, or how not amazonians love burritos, a mexican food...
I would say about Sphene, it was VERY heavy handed how she was picking and choosing what to show to us to make herself look good and trustworthy. Now the secondary issue here is that I'm not so sure that's how it was supposed to read. I actually get the feeling that this was supposed to feel organic and not like she was making a deliberate effort to make a good impression. Like she just so happened to care so much about a sick kid and some cabbage, not like she was giving us the tour of AND HERE IS HOW MUCH CHARITY WORK I DO LOOK AT ME I'M SUCH A GOOD RULER. I'm honestly not sure what to think about this.
I prefer to not think about endwalker patches, the only thing it liked was the omicron beast tribes. They were legitimately cool and the mount is neat. Its weird how endwalkers patches have absolutely nothing to do with anything, no other expansions patches has been like that.
Most notably, the Omicron tribe quests are the epilogue for Endwalker. The patches proper are a compressed expansion, the Pandemonium raids were exhausting after Asphodelos and apparently imply even more unneeded positives about Venat, and the stuff not about those two are pretty much the foreshadowing towards all aspects of Dawntrail.
I dont "hate" wak lamat. But no amount of explaining will convince me that she wasn't poorly written.
You realize it's a fictional character and doesn't exist without writing to support it, right?
You DO hate the character BECAUSE of their writing. There's nothing wrong with that.
@Null_Experis What even is this question? Duh, it isn't a real character.
Please do not attempt to "correct me" and tell me what I do or do not "hate."
I know what I said.
@@VoxfluxWhat you said is nonsense lol. It logically does not make sense. Wuk Lamat IS her writing. End of story. That is how a written canon narrative exists. It doesnt matter that they animated her and added visuals and sound. She is only comprised of her writing. Delusional lol
@@cb3490 Only one here that is "delusional" is you. Getting this hyped up over someone's level headed opinion. *Imagine thinking you can only have extreme thoughts or emotions*
"End of Story" indeed. Touch Grass.
@@Voxflux A character is their writing.
Everything else is design.
If you dislike the writing, you have a fundamental dislike of the character, no matter how much you like their design.
How funny would it be if they “reset” our jobs back to 1, but with a + or marker after it. Think Skyrim legendary 😂
A vote for Bakool Ja Ja was basically a vote against Wuk Lamat, I don't think it's thirst, it's mostly spite towards another character.
Bakool Ja Ja is a good character all on his own though
why is makkia maki botting everyday?
Is this a riddle or are you just being weird? If you suspect a player is botting you should report it in-game. Posting about it in the comment section of a FFXIV podcast isn't going to do anything. We are not FFXIV GMs and this isn't customer support.
@@SpeakersNetwork Another way to phrase the question is: why does Lukile Bravestone allow prolific botting to happen in his FC day in day out?
@@DeletedUser57346 Use the literal in-game tools to report it. Report this to any of our FC officer in-game if you're so aversed to using the tools that exist in-game to report cheating. Provide proof of this "prolific botting" (not in this comment section), and action will be taken. I am not going to investigate individual members based on a *RUclips comment* by someone with the username "DeletedUser57346". It's not my responsibilty to make sure every member follows the rules, and it's not my responsibility to resolve personal beef between players. If someone is botting, I expect the community to report the offending player (IN-GAME) and have the FC officers and GMs punish or remove them from the game. So no, Lukile Bravestone does not allow polific botting to happen in his FC day in day out - he also doesn't allow members to be ejected based on a comment made by a throwaway account on RUclips.
*"Give props to the writers"... yeah you guys lost me there, sorry. (And this is the first video that came across my recommendations in all my years playing FFXIV)*
It was on the level of 'my summer holiday story' of a elementary school kid with Wuk Lamat being the elementary school kid.
"And then I went to the big birds and there was this festival and we danced. And then I went to the funny duck people with the Lamas. Lamas are scary, but I was very brave and even rode one. And then I went to the giants and they were giant... and then I met Speeeen. Speeen is my very very best friend forever now....but my brother was a total meanie all the time and then Speeen was a meanie too, so I was sad that I lost my bestest of best friends, but I'm sure Speeen isn't even that mean, so...."
That's Dawntrail's writing. If you want to give credit for that abomination, you also have to give credit to every person on the planet, because compared to that a shopping list is thought provoking poetry! Just saying... Also I doubt anyone near the Bard quest had anything to do with it, because that one was decent and obviously written by an adult with the capability to think and therefore write like an adult. So either the poor person who has written the Bard quest has suffered extreme brain damage in the meantime or I would press X to doubt that anyone was involved in this msq who wrote anything before aside from "xyzs yoghurt. Don't touch" for this game. There is a gigantic difference between being an unexperienced writer and being simply incompetent. Whoever wrote vast parts of the msq (singular or multiple people) is obviously incompetent, because being able to write interesting characters and scenarios and most of all write what PR has promised (a vacation, adventure, direct contest with the scions, Erenvilles and Kriles story explored indepth, setup for the next 10 years with the introduction of new and interesting characters - of which is non to be found in the msq, just hours and hours of babysitting and like I said elementary school kid level of dialogue) is not because someone is inexperienced but rather a skill and talent issue. You can learn the basics of good storytelling, but that's something they should have learned before getting hired to write for such a big project. That's what education is for. But you can't learn to create stories that make people forget that it's just a story. And if the best they could come up with given the chance to write for such a big project, for such a big audience was 'Wuk Lamats summer vacation story' as full grown adults with (I assume) an education in this particular field, then maybe they should look for a field of work that suits them better, because what they delivered was - in my opinion - the worst writing I've seen in years.
To be fair, if they intended to write this story for 4-6 year old kids, it's decent. I just don't understand where dead babies and mass deletion á la "I don't consider you truly alive, therefore I'm not guilty of m.... you" fits into the whole Disney channel for toddlers and pre-school kids type story. I won't bash anyone that likes it, people like all kinds of stuff, but from an objectiv perspective considering the topics and way to tackle it that came before and even the age rating of the game, the DT msq was an inconsistent, in major parts boring failure that neither delivered what it promised nor understood the age group this game was previously made for.
*To sum it up: I'm not a person that believes in everyone needs to get a participation trophy even if their attempt was a complete failure, so they don't get any applause from me for the few ok-ish parts you can count on one hand. It's just not even anywhere close to the level I expect a story written by adults for adults to be. It's an incompetent and immature piece, written by someone that had the chance to write something brilliant, but wasn't capable to produce anything better than someone in third grade, just with more words.*
funny thumbnail lol