Ha! I know, right?! Thanks for the compliment! I love making these, and I haven't been advertising my channel at all. So, I'm hoping it'll take off. You're one of the first subs to something I hope becomes big! Cheers!
Mosh I love the movie Groundhog Day so I decided to Google: "How many days was Phil Connors stuck in Groundhog Day?" And I picked this. Keep up the great work man! :)
Imagine being Phil on February 3rd when everyone thinks that February 1st was two days ago but you can barely remember any of it because 12 years have passed since then and you've filled your memory with skills and details of everyone living in Punxsutawney.
One thing I always assumed was that the magic of the timeloop gave him perfect memory so all that info he acquired during the timeloop was locked in but like info he already knew. So he would remember Feb 1 as the day before but all the info gained on Feb 2 (Across the potentially 10,000 years or whatever) was all just info on that day and the timeloop condensed it down.
I always thought that if a crocked politician or someone we neede answers from . Would have to watch this over &over &over on a loop without any stop or edits rolling to know when it ends would go crazy in 5 years of watching it. Or is that just me?? 😱😱🤪
I’ve always liked to think he lived that day for 24 years. Just cuz I think him living the same 24 hour loop for 24 years adds an extra layer of irony to the whole thing
Was directed here by a Groundhog Day clip which appeared on my home page for seemingly 0 reason. I almost didn’t click because I thought your channel was a huge watch-mojo style meh fest, glad I found ya!
A normal human would probably try to kill themselves within 10 years. Phil is especially vain and hates the town already, so I can see him offing himself in 30 days.
It makes more sense that he'd have a high density of attempts once the monotony set in. Once he realized it was futile, he just stared learning skills.
Well a film blog has worked it out for you: 33 years and 350 days. whatculture worked out just how long Phil Connors spent in limbo back in 2013 to mark the film's 20th anniversary. Amazingly, the torturous time equates to repeating the same day 12,395 times. This includes all the deleted scenes, like the pool hustler, the bowling, saving the little girl and her dog, etc.
There's one thing I don't understand why they cut it out. Or just didn't include it. The old homeless man. On a certain couple of days, Phil tries to save his life by giving him food and making him warm. Ultimately, it is revealed that he is just old and is his time to go. On the final day that Phil lives through( before the loop is broken), we never see anything of the old man. I suppose it is implied that he at least gives the man something to eat on his final day. Mainly because Phil's last repeat day is supposed to be his ultimate growth. He is seen being kind to everyone in the town and giving unconditionally. Idk, it is just weird to me that they didn't include anything about the old man on the final day. Now, I suppose I could have missed something since I haven't seen the movie in a bit, but that's just what I noticed.
Yes... You're spot on. I believe the implication is the old man DOES die, even on Phil's last day. It's the message that "sometimes it's just a person's day to go" or more broadly, "Not every bad thing can be stopped."
@@db5094 A person can easily read a chapter book in 1 or 2 days, even factoring sleeping hours and a work schedule. Not everyone is a slow reader buddy.
Lets be honest. If you've spent 10 years reliving the exact same day, suddenly breaking the loop would probably psychotically break you for the remainder of your life.
Yeah, I'd imagine that after spending so much time used to things repeating. You'll go mad from not being able to predict anything. The attitude of "meh, try again tomorrow" will be lost, and knowing true consequences will be hard to overcome.
Why does nobody talk about how the cycle didn't break until after he bought life insurance from Ned? Ned is clearly a sorcerer that curses people that refuse to buy his insurance.
12 years? Damn, shouldn't Phil suffer massive anxiety when he finally gets out of the loop? Think about it, he knows every mistake, every joke that doesn't land, every awkward moment can be fixed the next day, suddenly no more
Chio Chan Genocide ... the Nervous Break down from no longer knowing what's going to happen is the basis for the sequel Ground Hogs Day 2: The search for Space Balls 3.
I love Phil's character progression throughout the movie. At first he is completely frustrated on how everything is repeating. Then he became a sociopath because he can do whatever he wants without consequence. Then he became depressed and suicidal. Then he tried to help as many people as he can. Eventually he realized since everything resets except his memory, he could only focus on learning skills and bettering himself. Which is how he broke out of the loop.
@@alvexok5523 that happened as part of The Melancholy of Hurahi Suzimi Endless Eight story arc. They found out they relieved one day over 10,000 times.
I ran into Harold Ramis in the La Guardia American Airlines Club in 1994. We had mutual friends and had a delightful 4-hour conversation. He was in NYC scouting locations for his upcoming picture with "Billy Crystal and Bobby DeNiro" ("Analyze This"). During the conversation, I asked him The Question- "How long was Phil Conners trapped on Groundhog Day?" His answer? "56 years". From the writer's mouth.
Damn, when I was younger i just thought the loop was a few months. I dunno if i would go mad living the same day over and over again but there's the thought of being immortal while having the time to learn tons of things you wouldn't have the time to learn since most skill take a lot of time to master. Now that I think about it that would be a good power to have as long as you can turn it on and off.
The real horror movie would begin once he wakes up on February the 3rd. Imagine being able to live the same day, over and over again. Then after 12-40 years of the same day its gone. Life just keeps moving on. Your world view, shattered. You're supposed to go to work the next day....WORK?!?! The thought of the loop starting over again on some other day would keep you from living peacefully for the rest of your days. Sounds like true Hell
i mean after you leave the loop you could probably get through life as the most interesting man in the world which would be cool. He's got an in at broadcasting too, Just record yourself being a master at all skills and call it a freak accident that set your brain up. But yeah pretty insane. Imagine seeing yourself begin to age on a daily basis again. Like having to re-remember to shave.
I didn't consider that, but you might be right. He finally got the woman that he wanted though, so maybe he wouldn't care. Maybe he'd even forget all of those time loop days and only remember the original Groundhog Day, before the loop started.
@@jeffgreen3376 better yet would be if he remembers the last one the most, and that's the one that everyone else will remember, and it was his best one. All those other days never even existed to anyone else. Phil really got lucky with his last one being the way it was
The population in Punxsutawney Pennsylvania in 1993 was 6,852 if he took 5 days to get to know every single person in town, it would have been approximately 93 years.
Well, but he doesnt have to know each and every person, right? He just needs to know those she asks about. if he doesnt know he can use a few days to find information about that person and try again. rinse repeat until she eventually believes you.
Seth I'm not saying that he got to know every single person in town, just that it's a possibility. When he said "I know everybody" he could have meant that litterly.
lunacron 5 days per person? That seems a bit much. For most people, he basically has a soundbite: "This is Doris. Her brother in law Carl owns this diner, she's worked here since she was 17. More than anything else in her life she wants to see Paris before she dies." He doesn't have to know everything about each person, just enough to impress Rita. Most of the information he has about the patrons is 5 minutes of conversation away for an inquisitive person who's not embarassed to ask some personal questions.
landochabod7 I agree 5 days is a bit much, but I said 5 days per person because that's the amount of time he suggested in the video. Plus the "I'm a god" scene is after he gives up trying to impress her by memorizing every little detail. I like to think that the scene in the diner is really from the heart and he only did it once.
Oh yes...The Internet (The Information Super Highway). BUT, in today's modern times, with cell phones, e-mail, face time, and etc. communication is faster and quicker so Phil will learn everything 100 times as fast, therefore learning his lesson and breaking the loop super quick and become that super gentlemen amazing talented beloved guy in the end. In my opinion, no matter how many years it actually was, Phil just needed to phrase key words or sentences together that will allow him to break the loop in a few days. Oh well...Phil was hardheaded and stubborn and a jerk and to much into himself to realize the key words. Good point there SvenicusGermainus.
@@accelerator8929 plenty of time to weed out all the fake stuff too, right? all of those web pages that contained inaccurate things that never get fixed the next day for example... (or pages that are down but would have been back up but he starts so never gets to see them)
That would have been too much for this kind of movie. Probably a remake done during these last years would have been much more "gore", including murders, mass-shooting, raping, aimless violence, exhibitionism, voyeurism, sex in public...elements that can fit the atmosphere of these days. But I can only imagine the terrible impact these things could have on the public. Even considering the character changing into a perfect sweet man, the viewer would be stuck to the violence images forever...
@@kerbangofiji5646 to be fair he could try all those out of frustration and even madness. Let say he's already living the same day for almost a decade he can turn insane and did all those. After a long bout of insanity he will be broken into being sane again. Also the ending is kinda creepy, sure he's being nice to all of them and get the girl. But it's probably because his mind is already broken and no longer feel. What if his relationship with the main girl is more about manipulation rather than affection? Since he knew her inside out it's less about mutual love and more about shaping himself to be her perfect man (that irl is not possible)
@@scoutbite4334 I can say honestly, me, and probably everyone, would end up doing the most unspeakable acts imaginable. I'm talking-- actually, I'll just leave it up to your imagination.
I say he became a doctor, a jazz pianist a french speaking poetry lover, an ice sculptor familiar with the whole town etc... 30 - 40 years seems right. Defiantly his best movie.
In the original script Phil went to the local library every day and systematically went through the library reading one page of each book in a day. When he finished that book he moved on to the next and the next and so on, keeping track of the total number of pages. Pretty smart right? However before the end of the movie he had finished the entire library. They cut it because it seemed to grand a concept for mainstream audiences to grasp but in my mind that’s how long he spent there.
average number of pages in a book= 400 (Literally googled it and found a result for 100,00 words, but there doesn't seem to be an average number of words per book that's easy to find so screw it this will do!) average number of books in a library = 100,000 (this one was hard for me to find, Walsh university has 132,000 so I would expect a city Library to be a little bit less than a small university library) 400 x 100,000=40,000,000 days~100,000 years Now I accept that my numbers are probably a bit too high, but if we imagine a small library has 1000 books, thats still 1000 years. If we ignore all complicated maths and assume the average book has 365 pages, then each book is a year, so a page a day is more than a lifetime of reading. Imagine how fucked up you would be if you spent just 40 years re-living the same day whilst remaining in your mid 40s, you would want to die, the world would cease to amaze you, I really doubt the average man would stay sane enough to break the loop! With 1000 years dedicated to perfecting skills and learning I cannot imagine his potential outside the loop.
Wow... that is a big number. But honestly to me at least 1,000 years makes more sense than 40 due to not just the skills he learns but also the sheer amount of information he learns about the town, all the people in the town and who knows what else. I also feel like there's so much the film doesn't actually show with him including skills and knowledge. I doubt the only skills the mastered were the ones he showed off. And I feel like even over hundreds or thousands of years he would go through severe ups and downs of sanity. Although 100,000 does seem like a bit too much. The longer the better for me, but at that point it seems like SO much more would have happened to him that the film didn't show that the film would actually be incomplete.
Fly Beep possible, but I'm saying maybe mental damage reset the same way physical changes did. You couldn't live 10,000 years of the same 24 hours over and over and not go completely bonkers, I struggle not to lose it on the day to day.
Fun-fact: the original reason for the loop was going to be an ex-gf who was a witch putting a hex on him. Director Harold Ramis quickly realized the reason for being in a time-loop wasn’t necessary.
Yeah I think it's nice that it wasn't really Supernatural, although it kinda is in nature, but I mean that they didn't show anything, or some mysterious teacher that guides him.
@@kraven4444 Well... it most definitively WAS supernatural? He was trapped in a time loop until he convinced a specific woman to love him... that sure ain't natural?
@@lenajohnson6179 for sure that isn't natural in anyway , what the hell is he talking about. He talks as if its natural , maybe he often finds himself in these loops and doesn't think anything of them
The real answer is probably about 6 months because the title of the video is "Groundhog Day lasts HOW LONG for Bill Murray?". It doesn't say Phil. So how long it lasts for Bill Murray would be however long it took to film the movie.
Groundhog Day fits in that category of "Bull's Eye" movie, in that it was a movie that on the surface, feels like a very average movie that might have been forgotten, but it's writing, acting, narrative, slick deadpan humor, and a brilliant performance by Bill Murray make this one of the most remembered and beloved films of it's time. It's one of those movies almost anyone can enjoy and should be watched by everyone at least once.
I think something thats missed a lot is that Phil wasn't trying to better himself and grow as fast as possible, he was just around and had nothing to do so slowly got better at stuff due to boredom, its also fair to assume we dont see every skill he has, he is amazing at everything we see him do at the end and knows everyone hes asked about really well, those are just random people there is a good chance he is amazing at many more things and knows pretty much everyone in town. When you think of it like this I think it is more like 400 years.
Yes, the 10-40 years tally requires a _lot_ of focused learning of things that make more sense if they were learned organically. Even the things that were learned with more intensity (like the piano) seem suppressed by a strange assumption that he only learned how to play the things we see him perform. IMO, it's much more likely he can play pretty much anything and the song selections shown were arbitrary. Certainly that's the way it's played off in the film. If so, then he probably spent 10+ years on the piano alone.
@@Oswlek I remember when the piano teacher said she was busy until Phil pulled out a stack of cash. She throws the kid out the door. LOL I love that movie
I agree. Who learns just two songs on the piano really well but can’t play anything else? The clear implication of the film is that he learned to play the piano to an expert level, he actually learned to speak French (not just learned a couple of sentences), etc. Each of these things is years of work, and he probably didn’t start them immediately, having spent huge amounts of time in depression. So I would say if not centuries then at least multiple decades.
A goal in my life is to successfully prank someone in this way. I go out in public with my mom and try to tell her im going through a groundhog day. That this was the 17th day in a row. I point to a man who is going to bend over and tie his shoes in 13 seconds. I tell her my phone is gonna ring in 6. Tell her my stepfather is gonna text her in 3 minutes to tell her to pick up milk on her way home. That her neighbors are going to visit with her and tell her about something inane. The twist is, everyone would be in on it. Id like to do it on April 1st.
Such a shame that in the manga the protagonist kept writing a number on the back of his hand every time he woke up after dying, and at the end the way he sees the world and time makes him more alien than the pacmen he is fighting.
@@NativS2002 Well...why arent you doing that now?? I was thinking the same thing, but then I realized that I do have time to learn to play piano, I have time to read every book on my shelf,I have time to learn french,ice skating,dancing,a bunch of other things I want to learn....I do have time to be nice to people, and learn about their lives... BUUUUUUT I am not doing that.Think about it.You can always find 20 minutes of the day when you are doing nothing, when you are staring at your clothes without really thinking what to wear, when you are on the toilet thinking you are being interviewed by Graham Norton, or when you watch Graham Norton (srsly, what use we have of knowing lives of celebrities??) or when you are wasting your time on Instagram or Snapchat (like, We know it is 8:30,there is no reason to see it 10 times on the 10 different picture of the trees from 10 different people)...Basically we have our Groundhog day-it called life.Everyday is the same anyway.But we are not using it(Well, at least I am not using it...)
Just did a rewatch today and I want to clarify: Phil's major growth comes from *trying* to mold himself into the perfect guy for [1] His infatuation, Rita and [2] The perfect guy for everyone else, the classic nice guy that everyone likes. Neither of which work. It's not until Phil earnestly gives up trying to be someone he isn't and embraces the spontaneity of enjoying every little moment life throws your way that he finally escapes the loop. Phil learns to love himself and after that, Rita fell in love with him just like that. It was actually quite heartwarming doing a rewatch recently. This is the perfect romcom.
Another factor: your video doesn't take into account deleted scenes. If you look at those (available right here on RUclips) we discover that Phil ALSO became a bowling champ and an expert billiards player. Given those accomplishments, I can see why the director has stated that his protagonist was in that loop for decades. So yes, the skill acquisition meter is definitely the way to go here...
@@alexpollock6932: I figure they'd count because they "happened," we just didn't get to see them... just as his trips to the bathroom, say, or sick days he might have spent in bed or even in a hospital.
Seeing how things like death, injury, and other physical conditions got reset every time, it's a good thing he didn't lose muscle memory on how to ice sculpt, play piano, or throw cards into a hat.
Even if you wer to loose msucle memory, you would still be awkwardly good at something, only be sheer known theory. For example, even if you owuldn't be "good" at piano, you would remmebr hand placements, know how to read and play without looking, or not as much, as a new player. BAsically you would pick up the skills at an exteme speed
I took my friend to this movie, after having seen it myself. It was still in theaters. Afterward, he quipped "Man, you said it was good, but wow..............it's REALLY GOOD!" He was really inspired by it. Hence, he bought a piano and had it installed in his dining room. He preceded to take piano lessons on it until he could play.
I read a story that used the Groundhog Day premise. After her loop was finally broken she was pretty messed up psychologically. The concept of actions having long-term consequences and how permanent her actions were again terrified her, nearly paralyzing her ability to make even small choices because she couldn't just eventually try all options until finding the optimal one. Also there were several moments where she almost killed herself non-nonchalantly over some minor mistake to restart the day before realizing at the last second her life doesn't work that way anymore and she almost actually ended herself. Don't worry, she got better eventually.
I have watched this film multiple times (ha) and I finally realized that Phil doesn't escape the loop until he's truly selfless. I had previously thought it had to do with his growth or his abilities, but it all revolves around him doing everything for OTHER people and not for himself. It's really surprising yet awesome once you "get" the movie!!
@@carmendelgado105That's right. I've wondered how things looked from others' points of view, particularly Rita's. One day, she's sitting in a van on the way to Punxsutawney with this obnoxious jerk who's rude and depressed, talking about leaving work and not caring about what anyone besides himself thinks about anything. And then, which to them was the next day, Phil is suddenly charming, articulate, sensitive and caring, is an awesome pianist and ice sculptor, and woos Rita so much with what she sees as this amazing 180. Rita and the others only remember the day they drove to Punxsutawney and Phil's last repeated day where he was this great guy and totally charmed her, which was also her first and only day there, until they both woke up together Feb 3. All of those other Feb 2 days, including Phil's first one before the loop began, never existed to Rita or anyone else
@@carmendelgado105 Also, can you imagine how it would've been to Rita's point of view on, for example, one of the Feb 2 days Phil killed himself? She one day sees this arrogant self centered guy and then the next day sees him flip out and drive a pickup off a cliff and explode on impact.
12 years 6 months only takes into account the positive days he had besides the 7 you counted for killing himself. he probably spent years in depression and suffering like it was a living hell, and spent years just giving up on life before he finally thought to make the best out of a shitty situation. you are right though these years are uncountable but he could have spent centuries just going through the motions before finally starting to better himself. that's why I feel 12~ years is way to short.
I thought that too at first, but even when depressed we have to do SOMETHING. And there never being anything new on tv, or internet porn, or friends or family to hang with, the only thing to do is learn skills, even if you dont really want to you would out of boredom, honestly I would of spent 30 seconds throwing cards into a hat before going out and picking fights with people just to learn how to fight
I'd love to have a groundhog Day, I would learn as many languages as I could, study every book I could, master programming, master first aid, learn to play the ocarina really well, although who am I kidding? I'd probably just play video games
And then it will be over and you will for the rest of your life wonder what force made you live the same day over and over. never finding the answer, never trusting research because you always know that there is something freaky going on that others don’t know about. who or what did this too you? why? have others had the same experience? are people having it right now?
The writers of the movie actually wrote it as hundreds of years! They had a scene that was written where Bill Murray read one page in a book for each day. At the end of the montage, it was supposed to show him with dozens of books representing thousands of pages.
From what I'm to understand it was originally supposed to be 10,000 years but things were changed by the director and certain things became unnecessary to the story. So to me it seems the number of years he was in the loop was originally supposed to be a long time, but eventually got brought down to a shorter time frame. In my personal opinion I think it was something around 30-40 years. At least that's what my guess is from the research I've done and what I believe to be the true answer as it seems difficult to find the true one.
If you watch the original behind the scenes, the director and writers said it was supposed to be about 1000 years. Not that we see even close to that in the movie. Lol
A couple other comments around here actually support that, namely some deleted scenes where he read a page from a book in the library every day supports that. edit: sorry if I don't make sense, I'm incredibly tired
Will Cook nah, you made plenty of sense. Lol. For a moment I thought I was the only one that remembered the behind the scenes and I even started 2nd guessing myself until I popped in the DVD and rewatched it.
Damien Green I'm just saying what the old behind the scenes said. Just pick up the Old dvd if you have it. And you'll see what I mean. All they said is that they intended it to be 1000 years. Doesn't mean that's what they ultimately decided up it 'canonically'.
Harold Ramis mentioned in the movie commentary that the film was based on Buddhist philosophy which says that if you repeat a certain thing 10,000 times you will become a master. So I have always considered that he relived 10,000 days which is approximately 30 years. This would be a reasonable time to mature and develop as her did. So I consider this the true value. I have watched the film AT LEAST 30 times. In English, Spanish, Italian and French.
I think so too. How many years was he depressed and suicidal? How many years did he spend going crazy? How long did it take to memorize every fact about every person in town?
A great breakdown, but I think you missed the point of the movie. The most important thing wasn't learning all about Rita so that he could court her. In fact, this is pointed out by Rita who says that's not what love is. The most important thing was that he can't change the circumstances and people around him, but that he can enrich their lives (and his) by being his best self.
Soon as he stopped pursuing her and became worthy, he won her. Not that she was so unobtainable, she was just a nice, sweet person who deserved better than what he was.
There was a period back in the mid 90's that this movie was on Cinemax all the time for a good year plus. If my roommate or I could not find anything to watch we would leave this on. It became a running joke, people would come by and comment on how this movie was on the last time they were over. My roommate or I would just say "no, this is the first time I ever seen this". We would then from time to time quote the movie while they were there. We also debated about the time line and figured somewhere around 15 to 20 years to learn all he did and get the timing down for certain events.
Mark R - Great story of you and your roommate. Love it! Thanks for sharing. As for your estimate, I feel like you’re dead on. Our total of 12 years doesn’t account for time he must’ve spent goofing off doing other things, which doesn’t really short in the movie, so is impossible to measure. Anyway, great movie, thanks for the comment!
He probably did try, but he had no control over it,so it is most likely that he would just wake up at 6:00 in bed again , without even falling asleep....
If I had to choose one day to live over and over again, it would be January 14, 1973. That's the day that the Miami Dolphins won the Super Bowl and completed the perfect season.
Amazing vid! I was born in '85 so I grew up watching this flick many, many times but it never occurred that he'd been stuck in the loop for 12 years!!! I guess I was too young to question it and just enjoyed Bill's antics! :) Thanks for the vid!
What I always found the most intriguing thing, was how the hell did he fall into this loop to begin with?! It's a mysterious magical element at work, but we never find out what and why.
I think I’m happy they didn’t tell us how he got into the loop and how the loop became broken. The movie leaves it up to the viewer’s imagination rather than some predictable cliché like magic. Maybe Ned just really wanted Phil to get life insurance and the loop broke when he finally got insurance lol
In the original script, Phil's ex girlfriend throws a hex on him to relive Feb 2nd. Would you like that version more than the mysterious one we cherish so much?
It's fun to try to figure it out but it really is impossible to even ballpark how long Phil was stuck in the loop. It had to be a mental roller coaster that the film doesn't touch upon fully, for example I'm sure there had to be periods where Phil just probably laid in bed and did nothing at all, due to depression and being tired of the same things every single day.
He learned to play the piano to a very high standard so it was years. Funny thing is his piano teacher looks really proud of him as he plays to everybody but on that day he would have already been at that level so she wouldn't know what had been achieved.
FrostedNuts - I just looked on Wikipedia. It’s not from a book - it is an original screenplay for the film. However, apparently in the second draft of the script his ex-girlfriend cursed him to be stuck in there for 10,000 years, so I think that is where that number comes from.
Imagine one of the days he decides to unleash all of his bestial anger and commits heinous acts from early morning to midnight, before calmly going to sleep knowing he's going to repeat it all over again... but when he wakes up it's Feb 3rd. "Oh sh-"
Wow... that was... awesome! And 12 years sound plausible as well (give or take a few years). I would've never came up with a number that high but... yeah. Still plausible. But honestly: 12 years. Waking up with the same song over and over again. And a song that can wreck ones nerves after listening to it, say... two or three times in a row. I would've gone clinically insane ^^
So they might be more than 12 years. Imagine him going through depression and not being able to advance (or even leave the bed) for a couple of years...
panner11 why would you think that attempting to commit suicide is evidence of going nuts rather than a perfectly rational response to an unbearable situation?
I remember playing through it on my VCR, pausing it, and trying to count it, and then decided that there were a lot of iterations that were simply offscreen, because we didn't see NEARLY enough to account for him getting good at playing the piano. So all in all, I think he actually was in the time loop for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. Just like in that awful Endless Eight episode of Suzumiya Haruhi season 2. Now HERE'S the REALLY depressing thing. If you had lived for THOUSANDS OF YEARS already, and then you finally broke the timeloop, and now you had to look forward to a remaining lifespan of like 50 years, wouldn't that be kind of like finding out you have untreatable cancer and have 5 weeks to live normally? You've ALREADY lived like 100 times longer than that, you have lived 99% of your life already. Wouldn't that suck, to live your remaining 50 years and yet to already be of the mindset that it was practically the blink of an eye the way you saw it?
In the deleted scenes we also see he became an expert pool player and memorized the scores from all the sports games played that day. I've always imagined it was like 10 to 20 years he spent on repeat.
That's gonna be pretty traumatic after reliving the same day for 12 years. Also really hopeless if you try to commit suicide but there is still no way out.
@@AbrahamLincoln4 Except, there is such an unbelievable amount of shit to do in the world, by the time you do it all it would be decades upon decades later. People who fear immortality have no imagination.
Congrats on one of the best videos I’ve ever seen on RUclips. You get the information out in a very timely and quick fashion and you cover all your bases excellent work.
I remember reading about a planned scene for Groundhog Day where Phil would keep track of how many days he spent trapped by reading one page of a book every day at the library, starting alphabetically, and by the end would have read every book.
There are also the deleted scenes where he shoots pool and clears the table with trick shots, and then bowls a perfect game. That adds a few more days.
And this is without accounting for the fact that he probably knows nearly every person in the city at this point, as the ones he picked out in the cafeteria were picked at random. Adding 5 days for each person in town would probably get the day count to explode further
But he is not just learning about the people in the cafe. He clearly also knows plenty of others, concidering how in the final scene where he plays piano lots of people who werent in the cafe approach him at random and applaud him, as he seemingly knows them well
you only THINK they where picked at random, it's the same group of people in the diner at the same time every day, so he only needed to learn some basic information about each one of them, it only appears "random" to you because you don't know how many times he's been in that diner on that day at that time or how many times he tried to convince her of this fact, learning only the next person in his path till he got enough to convince her.
@@Anonymos185 and all those people are on the same path he takes everyday, think of it like you go to work, well you see the same group of people everyday eventually you get to know them, but you NEVER meet the people in the building next door, 1 block over or across town.
30 years is what I would say. Like you said at the end the movie didn’t show all the times he failed. It’s interesting to hear people talk about people that have accomplished a lot such as athletes, actors, anyone that excels in their field. I think many people highly under estimate the time put forth by those individuals to get to the level of expert in their specific art/work.
Great comment--and yes, it's easy to discount athletes or experts as merely "gifted," when the truth is they're 'gifted' because they spent thousands of hours on their craft.
It was originally supposed to be a much darker movie. Phil's character lives through the day long enough to experience all aspects of human suffering. Not just death/suicide. The amount of time he spent wandering in that despair must have felt like eternity.
It's probably not that much different to white room torture. Phil would have completely lost his mind and eventually have gone brain dead. Not to mention the atrocities Phil likely committed in those 30+ years because nothing mattered at that point.
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Ha! I know, right?! Thanks for the compliment! I love making these, and I haven't been advertising my channel at all. So, I'm hoping it'll take off. You're one of the first subs to something I hope becomes big! Cheers!
Also, if I may be so bold, how did you stumble upon this channel / one of these videos?
Mosh I love the movie Groundhog Day so I decided to Google: "How many days was Phil Connors stuck in Groundhog Day?" And I picked this. Keep up the great work man! :)
i find your link at imdb trivia about groundhog day
Thanks Doctor 12! Glad you found us!
on one of his many days , he definately killed everyone in the town.
At least one. Probably untold hundreds. The Buddha hated the world before he loved the world. Everybody hates the world before they love the world.
Anyone who's played Skyrim knows that this is true.
@@TwiggehTV I got all my townsfolk murdering out in #3 and never killed random people (except vampire shenanigans) in the next two.
This is one of the best comments I've ever read.
Imagine after killing everyone, the loop stops
Imagine being Phil on February 3rd when everyone thinks that February 1st was two days ago but you can barely remember any of it because 12 years have passed since then and you've filled your memory with skills and details of everyone living in Punxsutawney.
One thing I always assumed was that the magic of the timeloop gave him perfect memory so all that info he acquired during the timeloop was locked in but like info he already knew. So he would remember Feb 1 as the day before but all the info gained on Feb 2 (Across the potentially 10,000 years or whatever) was all just info on that day and the timeloop condensed it down.
Oof, now the next time I watch this movie, I'll really feel Phil's relief at the end when he finally breaks the loop. 12 years! That's insane!
I always thought that if a crocked politician or someone we neede answers from . Would have to watch this over &over &over on a loop without any stop or edits rolling to know when it ends would go crazy in 5 years of watching it. Or is that just me?? 😱😱🤪
Judging by my own character arc of evolving from dickhead to gentleman I'd say a decade or more is about right.
4,000 days.
It's 42! Punxsatawny Phil declares 6 weeks of winter which is 42 days.
I’ve always liked to think he lived that day for 24 years. Just cuz I think him living the same 24 hour loop for 24 years adds an extra layer of irony to the whole thing
I was going to say like maybe 3 years but 10!!! Damnnnn no wonder he knew everything so well lol
Was directed here by a Groundhog Day clip which appeared on my home page for seemingly 0 reason. I almost didn’t click because I thought your channel was a huge watch-mojo style meh fest, glad I found ya!
Thanks Regret 26.95 -- yeah, we're not into listicles. You deserve better than that trite fluff!
Well for Bill Murray it lasted as long as the movie took to film.
one of my fav films, my dad's bday on 2/2 so I always watch it on GHD....this is just hilarious
Imagine all the things you could learn if there were no consequences for failing other than starting at the beginning of the day again.
12 years and 6 months and 11 day's sounds about right ... add or subtract a year or two ...lol
10,000 years in total
I wish I had enough free time to make videos like this.
Yeah I don't think a guy would be driven to like 10 creatively different attempts at suicide in just 30 days
10+ years sounds more like it
A normal human would probably try to kill themselves within 10 years. Phil is especially vain and hates the town already, so I can see him offing himself in 30 days.
It makes more sense that he'd have a high density of attempts once the monotony set in. Once he realized it was futile, he just stared learning skills.
33 years, 350 days or 12,395 times, according to a quick Google search.
Well a film blog has worked it out for you: 33 years and 350 days. whatculture worked out just how long Phil Connors spent in limbo back in 2013 to mark the film's 20th anniversary. Amazingly, the torturous time equates to repeating the same day 12,395 times. This includes all the deleted scenes, like the pool hustler, the bowling, saving the little girl and her dog, etc.
There's one thing I don't understand why they cut it out. Or just didn't include it. The old homeless man. On a certain couple of days, Phil tries to save his life by giving him food and making him warm. Ultimately, it is revealed that he is just old and is his time to go. On the final day that Phil lives through( before the loop is broken), we never see anything of the old man. I suppose it is implied that he at least gives the man something to eat on his final day. Mainly because Phil's last repeat day is supposed to be his ultimate growth. He is seen being kind to everyone in the town and giving unconditionally. Idk, it is just weird to me that they didn't include anything about the old man on the final day. Now, I suppose I could have missed something since I haven't seen the movie in a bit, but that's just what I noticed.
Yes... You're spot on. I believe the implication is the old man DOES die, even on Phil's last day. It's the message that "sometimes it's just a person's day to go" or more broadly, "Not every bad thing can be stopped."
Don't forget he read all the books in the library... that's got to add a lot of time right there.
2 days each.
Literary my dream
@@youtubeenigma8316 it does not take two straight days to read one book
@@db5094 A person can easily read a chapter book in 1 or 2 days, even factoring sleeping hours and a work schedule. Not everyone is a slow reader buddy.
@@youtubeenigma8316 buddy, im saying it takes way less than that. Not everyone is incredibly slow as that.
Lets be honest. If you've spent 10 years reliving the exact same day, suddenly breaking the loop would probably psychotically break you for the remainder of your life.
Good point! It would be pretty traumatic!
That might explain why he chose to remain there. Why move when you can stay in a town that you have spent years becoming an expert in?
Yeah, I'd imagine that after spending so much time used to things repeating. You'll go mad from not being able to predict anything. The attitude of "meh, try again tomorrow" will be lost, and knowing true consequences will be hard to overcome.
He probably just killed himself as soon as he realized he got out of the loop and wouldn't come back to life......
He’d be institutionalized like prisoners when they get released from prison.
Why does nobody talk about how the cycle didn't break until after he bought life insurance from Ned? Ned is clearly a sorcerer that curses people that refuse to buy his insurance.
Nobody? Like the comment further up, from over a year ago?
lol Good one.
Touché
Bing
He makes sure to reverse the curse afterwards. No need for unnecessary claims. Ned's not silly, & been in some other cool roles too, like Sneakers.
I would just like to point out that he didn't escape until AFTER he bought insurance from Ned "the head" Ryerson. Coincidence? I think not!
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He wasn’t able to escape the present until he planned for the future. Deep.
12 years? Damn, shouldn't Phil suffer massive anxiety when he finally gets out of the loop? Think about it, he knows every mistake, every joke that doesn't land, every awkward moment can be fixed the next day, suddenly no more
he's probably have like the same number of mental attacks or more or lease
He comes out far more enlightened. I think he'd be equipped to handle anything at that point.
Not any more anxious than, say, a prisoner being released from a relatively benign prison.
Chio Chan Genocide ... the Nervous Break down from no longer knowing what's going to happen is the basis for the sequel Ground Hogs Day 2: The search for Space Balls 3.
Felipe Aguena I thought the same thing. Groundhog Day 2 would be DARK
I love Phil's character progression throughout the movie. At first he is completely frustrated on how everything is repeating. Then he became a sociopath because he can do whatever he wants without consequence. Then he became depressed and suicidal. Then he tried to help as many people as he can. Eventually he realized since everything resets except his memory, he could only focus on learning skills and bettering himself. Which is how he broke out of the loop.
Imagine if everything reset including our memory, then we wouldn't even know we're repeating a day.
That's a great way to put it, and all of the stages he went through, and it is why he finally became a better person, and broke the loop.
Kind of right but not quite all the way. Phil learns to earnestly love himself which attracts everyone else to him along with Rita :)
I think he broke out of the loop by getting Rita to love him in a single day
@@alvexok5523 that happened as part of The Melancholy of Hurahi Suzimi Endless Eight story arc. They found out they relieved one day over 10,000 times.
I ran into Harold Ramis in the La Guardia American Airlines Club in 1994. We had mutual friends and had a delightful 4-hour conversation. He was in NYC scouting locations for his upcoming picture with "Billy Crystal and Bobby DeNiro" ("Analyze This"). During the conversation, I asked him The Question- "How long was Phil Conners trapped on Groundhog Day?" His answer? "56 years". From the writer's mouth.
Yep I’d heard 44 years or an entire lifetime but good to know from the Genius himself!!
Wow amazing thank you
Awesome!!
Damn, when I was younger i just thought the loop was a few months. I dunno if i would go mad living the same day over and over again but there's the thought of being immortal while having the time to learn tons of things you wouldn't have the time to learn since most skill take a lot of time to master. Now that I think about it that would be a good power to have as long as you can turn it on and off.
I read in an interview it was 33 years. I think he is screwing with all of us 🤣
Imagine 12 years of cold showers?
@Scott Sykes He wakes up refreshed already
He could sleep during the day?
I've been taking cold showers for years. Not that bad. You get used to it at around month 18.
@@hunterdakota5271 WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY!!
Big Max Music imagine ten years of no showers? Even if it doesn’t affect your hygiene, that’s still pretty weird
The real horror movie would begin once he wakes up on February the 3rd. Imagine being able to live the same day, over and over again. Then after 12-40 years of the same day its gone. Life just keeps moving on. Your world view, shattered. You're supposed to go to work the next day....WORK?!?! The thought of the loop starting over again on some other day would keep you from living peacefully for the rest of your days. Sounds like true Hell
or, living a meaningless life where nothing you do matters is soul crushing and he's happy to escape.
i mean after you leave the loop you could probably get through life as the most interesting man in the world which would be cool. He's got an in at broadcasting too, Just record yourself being a master at all skills and call it a freak accident that set your brain up. But yeah pretty insane. Imagine seeing yourself begin to age on a daily basis again. Like having to re-remember to shave.
thats why i the end of the movie he said he wanted to stay in the town, I think he is in a prison and he cant comprehend another world outside of it
I didn't consider that, but you might be right. He finally got the woman that he wanted though, so maybe he wouldn't care. Maybe he'd even forget all of those time loop days and only remember the original Groundhog Day, before the loop started.
@@jeffgreen3376 better yet would be if he remembers the last one the most, and that's the one that everyone else will remember, and it was his best one. All those other days never even existed to anyone else. Phil really got lucky with his last one being the way it was
The population in Punxsutawney Pennsylvania in 1993 was 6,852 if he took 5 days to get to know every single person in town, it would have been approximately 93 years.
Wow! Extra bonus points for doing this research!! Awesome point!! And your math is spot on! That's a lot of years meeting folks.
Well, but he doesnt have to know each and every person, right? He just needs to know those she asks about. if he doesnt know he can use a few days to find information about that person and try again. rinse repeat until she eventually believes you.
Seth I'm not saying that he got to know every single person in town, just that it's a possibility. When he said "I know everybody" he could have meant that litterly.
lunacron 5 days per person? That seems a bit much. For most people, he basically has a soundbite:
"This is Doris. Her brother in law Carl owns this diner, she's worked here since she was 17. More than anything else in her life she wants to see Paris before she dies."
He doesn't have to know everything about each person, just enough to impress Rita. Most of the information he has about the patrons is 5 minutes of conversation away for an inquisitive person who's not embarassed to ask some personal questions.
landochabod7 I agree 5 days is a bit much, but I said 5 days per person because that's the amount of time he suggested in the video.
Plus the "I'm a god" scene is after he gives up trying to impress her by memorizing every little detail.
I like to think that the scene in the diner is really from the heart and he only did it once.
Groundhogs day with internet access would be a whole different beast altogether.
Oh yes...The Internet (The Information Super Highway). BUT, in today's modern times, with cell phones, e-mail, face time, and etc. communication is faster and quicker so Phil will learn everything 100 times as fast, therefore learning his lesson and breaking the loop super quick and become that super gentlemen amazing talented beloved guy in the end. In my opinion, no matter how many years it actually was, Phil just needed to phrase key words or sentences together that will allow him to break the loop in a few days. Oh well...Phil was hardheaded and stubborn and a jerk and to much into himself to realize the key words. Good point there SvenicusGermainus.
Groundhogs day with internet access would be near omniscience.
@@accelerator8929 plenty of time to weed out all the fake stuff too, right? all of those web pages that contained inaccurate things that never get fixed the next day for example... (or pages that are down but would have been back up but he starts so never gets to see them)
Porn everyday all day
@@uliloolilu780 Ah yes, a man of true culture
Harold Ramis was a film making genius.
Bartolomeo Ramis was a music genius.
Don't forget the inevitable loops where he went on a murderous rampage out of sheer frustration.
That would have been too much for this kind of movie. Probably a remake done during these last years would have been much more "gore", including murders, mass-shooting, raping, aimless violence, exhibitionism, voyeurism, sex in public...elements that can fit the atmosphere of these days. But I can only imagine the terrible impact these things could have on the public. Even considering the character changing into a perfect sweet man, the viewer would be stuck to the violence images forever...
The creators themselves have said as much.
kerbango fiji what
@@kerbangofiji5646 to be fair he could try all those out of frustration and even madness. Let say he's already living the same day for almost a decade he can turn insane and did all those. After a long bout of insanity he will be broken into being sane again. Also the ending is kinda creepy, sure he's being nice to all of them and get the girl. But it's probably because his mind is already broken and no longer feel. What if his relationship with the main girl is more about manipulation rather than affection? Since he knew her inside out it's less about mutual love and more about shaping himself to be her perfect man (that irl is not possible)
Starting with Ned
This movie is so subtly dark it actually makes me feel anxious.
and dont forget the times were he actually killed everyone! :)
I hope they make an extremely dark-toned movie with the same concept
@@amalj5456 dr strange 2
@@scoutbite4334 I can say honestly, me, and probably everyone, would end up doing the most unspeakable acts imaginable. I'm talking-- actually, I'll just leave it up to your imagination.
Yes we’ve been living in it through 2020
I say he became a doctor, a jazz pianist a french speaking poetry lover, an ice sculptor familiar with the whole town etc...
30 - 40 years seems right. Defiantly his best movie.
The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou is a great movie. Maybe not his best, but it's a great cast and script. It's really cool.
In the original script Phil went to the local library every day and systematically went through the library reading one page of each book in a day. When he finished that book he moved on to the next and the next and so on, keeping track of the total number of pages. Pretty smart right? However before the end of the movie he had finished the entire library. They cut it because it seemed to grand a concept for mainstream audiences to grasp but in my mind that’s how long he spent there.
average number of pages in a book= 400 (Literally googled it and found a result for 100,00 words, but there doesn't seem to be an average number of words per book that's easy to find so screw it this will do!)
average number of books in a library = 100,000 (this one was hard for me to find, Walsh university has 132,000 so I would expect a city Library to be a little bit less than a small university library)
400 x 100,000=40,000,000 days~100,000 years
Now I accept that my numbers are probably a bit too high, but if we imagine a small library has 1000 books, thats still 1000 years. If we ignore all complicated maths and assume the average book has 365 pages, then each book is a year, so a page a day is more than a lifetime of reading. Imagine how fucked up you would be if you spent just 40 years re-living the same day whilst remaining in your mid 40s, you would want to die, the world would cease to amaze you, I really doubt the average man would stay sane enough to break the loop! With 1000 years dedicated to perfecting skills and learning I cannot imagine his potential outside the loop.
Wow... that is a big number. But honestly to me at least 1,000 years makes more sense than 40 due to not just the skills he learns but also the sheer amount of information he learns about the town, all the people in the town and who knows what else. I also feel like there's so much the film doesn't actually show with him including skills and knowledge. I doubt the only skills the mastered were the ones he showed off. And I feel like even over hundreds or thousands of years he would go through severe ups and downs of sanity. Although 100,000 does seem like a bit too much. The longer the better for me, but at that point it seems like SO much more would have happened to him that the film didn't show that the film would actually be incomplete.
Jared Clark maybe he went nuts and woke up at the start of the day sane again
Hellfire Heroes that would go against what the movie is portraying. He retains memory and emotion from previous days. Saneness is linked with emotion.
Fly Beep possible, but I'm saying maybe mental damage reset the same way physical changes did. You couldn't live 10,000 years of the same 24 hours over and over and not go completely bonkers, I struggle not to lose it on the day to day.
Fun-fact: the original reason for the loop was going to be an ex-gf who was a witch putting a hex on him. Director Harold Ramis quickly realized the reason for being in a time-loop wasn’t necessary.
That would have definitely ruined the whole movie
Yeah I think it's nice that it wasn't really Supernatural, although it kinda is in nature, but I mean that they didn't show anything, or some mysterious teacher that guides him.
@@kraven4444 Well... it most definitively WAS supernatural? He was trapped in a time loop until he convinced a specific woman to love him... that sure ain't natural?
@@lenajohnson6179 for sure that isn't natural in anyway , what the hell is he talking about. He talks as if its natural , maybe he often finds himself in these loops and doesn't think anything of them
@@Roam-de-route Obviously Doctor Strange did it.
Real answer:
The movie "Groundhog's Day" takes place over the course of one day. Feburary 2nd.
Well no, in the beginning of the film it's 1st February, and the film ends on 3rd February
Got em
The real answer is probably about 6 months because the title of the video is "Groundhog Day lasts HOW LONG for Bill Murray?". It doesn't say Phil. So how long it lasts for Bill Murray would be however long it took to film the movie.
Imagine if the loop randomly just ended while Phil was in jail 😂
That would be the version if it were me instead of Phil.
That’s a life sentence what you did wakes up in county 😂
That's what I've always thought he had no way of knowing when the loop would break and got extremely lucky
Imagine having to hear Cher every time you wake up for 10,000 years...
Eh, I wouldn't mind waking up to "I Got You, Babe" for thousands of years. It's probably the least annoying easy-listening song.
Theroux
Now that is Cher hell!!!!!!
NO PATS JIM
Hearing Cher 1 time is enough
Where did you get a 10k estimate from?
MS the book
You missed the pool hall quote "I've been coming here for months".
No, that's in a deleted scene, which we did not count for the purposes of our analysis (because it's not an 'official' part of the movie).
@@mosh2225 DELETED SCENES??? I've seen (pun) none of those!
Groundhog Day fits in that category of "Bull's Eye" movie, in that it was a movie that on the surface, feels like a very average movie that might have been forgotten, but it's writing, acting, narrative, slick deadpan humor, and a brilliant performance by Bill Murray make this one of the most remembered and beloved films of it's time. It's one of those movies almost anyone can enjoy and should be watched by everyone at least once.
Excellent story, excellent script, Bill Murray is one of the GOATs -- yup! It's a good show. Very re-watchable, positive message -- it's got it all.
I think something thats missed a lot is that Phil wasn't trying to better himself and grow as fast as possible, he was just around and had nothing to do so slowly got better at stuff due to boredom, its also fair to assume we dont see every skill he has, he is amazing at everything we see him do at the end and knows everyone hes asked about really well, those are just random people there is a good chance he is amazing at many more things and knows pretty much everyone in town. When you think of it like this I think it is more like 400 years.
Yes, the 10-40 years tally requires a _lot_ of focused learning of things that make more sense if they were learned organically. Even the things that were learned with more intensity (like the piano) seem suppressed by a strange assumption that he only learned how to play the things we see him perform. IMO, it's much more likely he can play pretty much anything and the song selections shown were arbitrary. Certainly that's the way it's played off in the film. If so, then he probably spent 10+ years on the piano alone.
@@Oswlek I remember when the piano teacher said she was busy until Phil pulled out a stack of cash. She throws the kid out the door. LOL
I love that movie
I agree. Who learns just two songs on the piano really well but can’t play anything else? The clear implication of the film is that he learned to play the piano to an expert level, he actually learned to speak French (not just learned a couple of sentences), etc. Each of these things is years of work, and he probably didn’t start them immediately, having spent huge amounts of time in depression. So I would say if not centuries then at least multiple decades.
@@willmosse3684, "at least multiple decades"
So like three or four decades, thirty or forty years?
notahotshot - at a minimum
A goal in my life is to successfully prank someone in this way. I go out in public with my mom and try to tell her im going through a groundhog day. That this was the 17th day in a row. I point to a man who is going to bend over and tie his shoes in 13 seconds. I tell her my phone is gonna ring in 6. Tell her my stepfather is gonna text her in 3 minutes to tell her to pick up milk on her way home. That her neighbors are going to visit with her and tell her about something inane. The twist is, everyone would be in on it.
Id like to do it on April 1st.
Watch the movie with her a few days before that, so the concept of a time loop will be fresh on her mind.
@@jeffgreen3376 She won’t believe him in this case.
So how did it went?
April 1st is too obvious
How did it went?
Do the same thing but with Edge of Tomorrow
Hmm..... Not a bad idea...
Emily Blunt is HOOTTTT!!
Such a shame that in the manga the protagonist kept writing a number on the back of his hand every time he woke up after dying, and at the end the way he sees the world and time makes him more alien than the pacmen he is fighting.
Roy Redfield okay then that went from 0-100 really quick
@coke man I love that movie!
If you had control of the loop, when it starts and when it ends. It would be awesome.
SimpleMan.45
Same.
I'd master everything in the world before I move on to knowing anything about anyone I can before I move on to the next day.
@@NativS2002 Well...why arent you doing that now?? I was thinking the same thing, but then I realized that I do have time to learn to play piano, I have time to read every book on my shelf,I have time to learn french,ice skating,dancing,a bunch of other things I want to learn....I do have time to be nice to people, and learn about their lives... BUUUUUUT I am not doing that.Think about it.You can always find 20 minutes of the day when you are doing nothing, when you are staring at your clothes without really thinking what to wear, when you are on the toilet thinking you are being interviewed by Graham Norton, or when you watch Graham Norton (srsly, what use we have of knowing lives of celebrities??) or when you are wasting your time on Instagram or Snapchat (like, We know it is 8:30,there is no reason to see it 10 times on the 10 different picture of the trees from 10 different people)...Basically we have our Groundhog day-it called life.Everyday is the same anyway.But we are not using it(Well, at least I am not using it...)
@@Ja-zz2gn You make a good point
Ja 123 are you doing that now?
@@Ja-zz2gn Because people need rest and most people can't keep that up.
Just did a rewatch today and I want to clarify: Phil's major growth comes from *trying* to mold himself into the perfect guy for [1] His infatuation, Rita and [2] The perfect guy for everyone else, the classic nice guy that everyone likes. Neither of which work. It's not until Phil earnestly gives up trying to be someone he isn't and embraces the spontaneity of enjoying every little moment life throws your way that he finally escapes the loop. Phil learns to love himself and after that, Rita fell in love with him just like that. It was actually quite heartwarming doing a rewatch recently. This is the perfect romcom.
just imagine your in that movie living the same day over and over again
Another factor: your video doesn't take into account deleted scenes. If you look at those (available right here on RUclips) we discover that Phil ALSO became a bowling champ and an expert billiards player. Given those accomplishments, I can see why the director has stated that his protagonist was in that loop for decades. So yes, the skill acquisition meter is definitely the way to go here...
The director didn't say decades, he said 10 years. That is one decade
The director changed it to 30-40 years.
robert hough deleted scenes don’t count, but it’s still worth looking at I guess
@@alexpollock6932: I figure they'd count because they "happened," we just didn't get to see them... just as his trips to the bathroom, say, or sick days he might have spent in bed or even in a hospital.
KutWrite sick days doesn’t really make sense
Seeing how things like death, injury, and other physical conditions got reset every time, it's a good thing he didn't lose muscle memory on how to ice sculpt, play piano, or throw cards into a hat.
Muscle memory is still on your brain though.
Even if you wer to loose msucle memory, you would still be awkwardly good at something, only be sheer known theory. For example, even if you owuldn't be "good" at piano, you would remmebr hand placements, know how to read and play without looking, or not as much, as a new player. BAsically you would pick up the skills at an exteme speed
@@shorebreakers96 Have you lost muscle memory recently?
I think this plot line probably defies a full scientific analysis
It's like riding a bike.
I took my friend to this movie, after having seen it myself. It was still in theaters. Afterward, he quipped "Man, you said it was good, but wow..............it's REALLY GOOD!"
He was really inspired by it. Hence, he bought a piano and had it installed in his dining room. He preceded to take piano lessons on it until he could play.
That is AWESOME! What a great story of a movie inspiring change!
The alarm clock is at 6:00am. This video is 6:00 minutes long. Coincidence? I think not!!
Infrared Sight nope 6 minutes...AND ONE SECOND
6:01 because we're out of the loop finally. How many years were we in there?
hey it is 6 minutes, you lying poo poo pants
Check tomorrow!
I read a story that used the Groundhog Day premise. After her loop was finally broken she was pretty messed up psychologically. The concept of actions having long-term consequences and how permanent her actions were again terrified her, nearly paralyzing her ability to make even small choices because she couldn't just eventually try all options until finding the optimal one. Also there were several moments where she almost killed herself non-nonchalantly over some minor mistake to restart the day before realizing at the last second her life doesn't work that way anymore and she almost actually ended herself. Don't worry, she got better eventually.
What is the name
Hyreia, what was the name of the story?
Imagine dropping a bombshell of a story only to dissapear from the internet
I have watched this film multiple times (ha) and I finally realized that Phil doesn't escape the loop until he's truly selfless. I had previously thought it had to do with his growth or his abilities, but it all revolves around him doing everything for OTHER people and not for himself. It's really surprising yet awesome once you "get" the movie!!
❤️ Yes! He saw the good in others and became love. Once he became love, he found it with Rita.
@@carmendelgado105That's right.
I've wondered how things looked from others' points of view, particularly Rita's. One day, she's sitting in a van on the way to Punxsutawney with this obnoxious jerk who's rude and depressed, talking about leaving work and not caring about what anyone besides himself thinks about anything.
And then, which to them was the next day, Phil is suddenly charming, articulate, sensitive and caring, is an awesome pianist and ice sculptor, and woos Rita so much with what she sees as this amazing 180. Rita and the others only remember the day they drove to Punxsutawney and Phil's last repeated day where he was this great guy and totally charmed her, which was also her first and only day there, until they both woke up together Feb 3. All of those other Feb 2 days, including Phil's first one before the loop began, never existed to Rita or anyone else
It is, and that's just how I see it as well. Also, see my above reply to Carmen Delgato
@@carmendelgado105 Also, can you imagine how it would've been to Rita's point of view on, for example, one of the Feb 2 days Phil killed himself? She one day sees this arrogant self centered guy and then the next day sees him flip out and drive a pickup off a cliff and explode on impact.
12 years 6 months only takes into account the positive days he had besides the 7 you counted for killing himself. he probably spent years in depression and suffering like it was a living hell, and spent years just giving up on life before he finally thought to make the best out of a shitty situation.
you are right though these years are uncountable but he could have spent centuries just going through the motions before finally starting to better himself. that's why I feel 12~ years is way to short.
I thought that too at first, but even when depressed we have to do SOMETHING. And there never being anything new on tv, or internet porn, or friends or family to hang with, the only thing to do is learn skills, even if you dont really want to you would out of boredom, honestly I would of spent 30 seconds throwing cards into a hat before going out and picking fights with people just to learn how to fight
Yeah he did not count the 3 years where he just laid in bed trying to go back to sleep.
The sequel ... Groundhog Day: Covid-19 Edition
Every time my roommate turns on CNN, I feel that the news is in a time loop. The same Covid crap every day.
Just two more weeks of lockdown!
@@Danebrogen1 Is that what the groundhog suggests?
Well, Phil said he got to know EVERY person in the town, not just the specific ones he mentions.
Yeah like he never lied. I think he just met everyone that went down down town
I'd love to have a groundhog Day, I would learn as many languages as I could, study every book I could, master programming, master first aid, learn to play the ocarina really well, although who am I kidding? I'd probably just play video games
Ha! Yup.... I think you speak for most of us!
wouldnt you have to play the same level over and over though?
Chip Higgens that is true but imagine how fast you'd get at it, you'd become speedrunner tier
Roguelikes lol
And then it will be over and you will for the rest of your life wonder what force made you live the same day over and over. never finding the answer, never trusting research because you always know that there is something freaky going on that others don’t know about. who or what did this too you? why? have others had the same experience? are people having it right now?
The writers of the movie actually wrote it as hundreds of years! They had a scene that was written where Bill Murray read one page in a book for each day. At the end of the montage, it was supposed to show him with dozens of books representing thousands of pages.
From what I'm to understand it was originally supposed to be 10,000 years but things were changed by the director and certain things became unnecessary to the story. So to me it seems the number of years he was in the loop was originally supposed to be a long time, but eventually got brought down to a shorter time frame. In my personal opinion I think it was something around 30-40 years. At least that's what my guess is from the research I've done and what I believe to be the true answer as it seems difficult to find the true one.
10-20-30-40, The upside he only aged a day.
If you watch the original behind the scenes, the director and writers said it was supposed to be about 1000 years.
Not that we see even close to that in the movie. Lol
A couple other comments around here actually support that, namely some deleted scenes where he read a page from a book in the library every day supports that.
edit: sorry if I don't make sense, I'm incredibly tired
Will Cook nah, you made plenty of sense.
Lol. For a moment I thought I was the only one that remembered the behind the scenes and I even started 2nd guessing myself until I popped in the DVD and rewatched it.
A thousand years??? Not even close to that.
Damien Green I'm just saying what the old behind the scenes said. Just pick up the Old dvd if you have it. And you'll see what I mean.
All they said is that they intended it to be 1000 years. Doesn't mean that's what they ultimately decided up it 'canonically'.
@@piroshi3rd yeah, I thought so too. I remember seeing another video that he was actually in the loop for like thousands of years...
Harold Ramis mentioned in the movie commentary that the film was based on Buddhist philosophy which says that if you repeat a certain thing 10,000 times you will become a master. So I have always considered that he relived 10,000 days which is approximately 30 years. This would be a reasonable time to mature and develop as her did. So I consider this the true value. I have watched the film AT LEAST 30 times. In English, Spanish, Italian and French.
But he was a master at several things
I'd spend at least 10 years having duvet days.
Lyca31 I'm currently at four weeks trust me its sickening.
What?!!
Stonemansteve II I've been ill four six weeks.
There's a difference between healthy or ill for 10 years.
The was 40 years that's fact.
Imagine your born on Groundhog Day
Being born countless times
Or giving birth countless times haha
That poor mom...
You're
Bob Dylan She won’t remember it, it’s not that bad.
Pussy everyday bro
It would probably take at least 15 years to get that good at the piano...
For most people I agree
If he had netflix it would have been alot more then 30 to 40 years
I dunno. I find the content available on netflix surprisingly dull. I rather quickly ran out of things I could actually be bothered to watch...
@@KuraIthys so many subpar originals, and most of the good stuff is bingeable in a day or already cancelled
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About 15 years alone trying to decide what to watch
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I've been watching this video everyday for 30 years
Woodstock I'll. Straight down Rt 47 people there don't know Groundhog Day was filmed there.
@IPA SOLÉ yeah, we've had this discussion countless times😳😁
Then there was the deleted scene where he read one page from a book every day and then he ends up finishing every single book in the library
yeah i think that's why he lived 30-40 years
10 thousand years
will give such a crick in the neck.
God damn it I was going to reply that.
FEEL THE HATRED OF 10,000 YEARS!
10,000 years. That's what I heard
I think so too. How many years was he depressed and suicidal? How many years did he spend going crazy? How long did it take to memorize every fact about every person in town?
A great breakdown, but I think you missed the point of the movie. The most important thing wasn't learning all about Rita so that he could court her. In fact, this is pointed out by Rita who says that's not what love is. The most important thing was that he can't change the circumstances and people around him, but that he can enrich their lives (and his) by being his best self.
Great insight, Scott! The movie is very zen. Be your best self, accept what is and your problems go away.
The other thing he had to learn was not to be a douche to everyone.
Soon as he stopped pursuing her and became worthy, he won her. Not that she was so unobtainable, she was just a nice, sweet person who deserved better than what he was.
Be the change you wish to see in the world. Gandhi
I absolutely agree except that you left out all the medical studies he put in trying to save the old man, how long is med school?
There was a period back in the mid 90's that this movie was on Cinemax all the time for a good year plus. If my roommate or I could not find anything to watch we would leave this on. It became a running joke, people would come by and comment on how this movie was on the last time they were over. My roommate or I would just say "no, this is the first time I ever seen this". We would then from time to time quote the movie while they were there.
We also debated about the time line and figured somewhere around 15 to 20 years to learn all he did and get the timing down for certain events.
Mark R - Great story of you and your roommate. Love it! Thanks for sharing. As for your estimate, I feel like you’re dead on. Our total of 12 years doesn’t account for time he must’ve spent goofing off doing other things, which doesn’t really short in the movie, so is impossible to measure. Anyway, great movie, thanks for the comment!
I think bill should've stayed up until 6:00 am, to see why the day keeps repeating itself.
He probably did try, but he had no control over it,so it is most likely that he would just wake up at 6:00 in bed again , without even falling asleep....
He did
Noobly He did. He just blacked out and woke up the day before.
He did. You see him laying in bed watching the clock tick over from 5:59AM to 6:00AM, at which point he opens his eyes to the song playing.
@@trequor exactly, it was like he just blincked in the last second before 6:00am
Surely Phil listing all the ways he’s died should factor into the minimum number of days?
I could name you a few people who would love to stay in the early nineties forever.
People in the Balkans be like : /
If I had to choose one day to live over and over again, it would be January 14, 1973. That's the day that the Miami Dolphins won the Super Bowl and completed the perfect season.
Amazing vid! I was born in '85 so I grew up watching this flick many, many times but it never occurred that he'd been stuck in the loop for 12 years!!! I guess I was too young to question it and just enjoyed Bill's antics! :) Thanks for the vid!
I just can't fathom he can play the piano that good in 33 days. So, that's off from the start....
What I always found the most intriguing thing, was how the hell did he fall into this loop to begin with?! It's a mysterious magical element at work, but we never find out what and why.
I think it's best left to the imagination rather then the actual answer
Groundhog magic
I think I’m happy they didn’t tell us how he got into the loop and how the loop became broken. The movie leaves it up to the viewer’s imagination rather than some predictable cliché like magic. Maybe Ned just really wanted Phil to get life insurance and the loop broke when he finally got insurance lol
In the original script, Phil's ex girlfriend throws a hex on him to relive Feb 2nd. Would you like that version more than the mysterious one we cherish so much?
It's fun to try to figure it out but it really is impossible to even ballpark how long Phil was stuck in the loop. It had to be a mental roller coaster that the film doesn't touch upon fully, for example I'm sure there had to be periods where Phil just probably laid in bed and did nothing at all, due to depression and being tired of the same things every single day.
He learned to play the piano to a very high standard so it was years. Funny thing is his piano teacher looks really proud of him as he plays to everybody but on that day he would have already been at that level so she wouldn't know what had been achieved.
That's what I thought and I don't think that he took piano lessons in the very last days so the teacher must not even know him as his student??
2019 millenial groundhog days would all be spent in bed catching up on sleep
Bwahahahah... nice!
Yup, I agree :p
ok boomer
A lot of wanking
@@mrdewb Millennial = Boomer wait whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
Read the book it's based on and realize he's lived the 1 day for over 10 thousand years
It was based on a book?
@@willmosse3684 Indeed, I just can't remember the name
FrostedNuts - I just looked on Wikipedia. It’s not from a book - it is an original screenplay for the film. However, apparently in the second draft of the script his ex-girlfriend cursed him to be stuck in there for 10,000 years, so I think that is where that number comes from.
Imagine one of the days he decides to unleash all of his bestial anger and commits heinous acts from early morning to midnight, before calmly going to sleep knowing he's going to repeat it all over again... but when he wakes up it's Feb 3rd.
"Oh sh-"
That would be an absolute Frick for him.
That would be a great sequel.
why'd he get interrupted?
Yeah, I'm gonna pitch a script like this to the studios, I'm gonna call it "Repeaters".
That would probably be a horror movie plot
When he finally left the loop he successfully became the most talented man in the world.
He became A god, not THE God, at least he doesn't think.
Wow... that was... awesome! And 12 years sound plausible as well (give or take a few years).
I would've never came up with a number that high but... yeah. Still plausible. But honestly: 12 years. Waking up with the same song over and over again. And a song that can wreck ones nerves after listening to it, say... two or three times in a row. I would've gone clinically insane ^^
So they might be more than 12 years. Imagine him going through depression and not being able to advance (or even leave the bed) for a couple of years...
well he did commit suicide numerous times so he went pretty nuts too.
panner11 why would you think that attempting to commit suicide is evidence of going nuts rather than a perfectly rational response to an unbearable situation?
John Hill because suicide is nearly always irrational. It ends everything, going against human instinct to stay alive.
Keepyupy yes but he couldn’t escape nothing mattered he would reset every day
I think he was there a couple of hundred years.
There's a deleted scene where he's crushing a game of pool.
I remember playing through it on my VCR, pausing it, and trying to count it, and then decided that there were a lot of iterations that were simply offscreen, because we didn't see NEARLY enough to account for him getting good at playing the piano. So all in all, I think he actually was in the time loop for hundreds of years, maybe thousands. Just like in that awful Endless Eight episode of Suzumiya Haruhi season 2.
Now HERE'S the REALLY depressing thing. If you had lived for THOUSANDS OF YEARS already, and then you finally broke the timeloop, and now you had to look forward to a remaining lifespan of like 50 years, wouldn't that be kind of like finding out you have untreatable cancer and have 5 weeks to live normally? You've ALREADY lived like 100 times longer than that, you have lived 99% of your life already. Wouldn't that suck, to live your remaining 50 years and yet to already be of the mindset that it was practically the blink of an eye the way you saw it?
You would basically lose the perception of time after all that time
In the deleted scenes we also see he became an expert pool player and memorized the scores from all the sports games played that day. I've always imagined it was like 10 to 20 years he spent on repeat.
That's gonna be pretty traumatic after reliving the same day for 12 years. Also really hopeless if you try to commit suicide but there is still no way out.
eh all the time in the world, not having to go to work yeah i would probably spend 10,000 years watching MASH re=runs.
@@sandraday6955 it would be pretty boring after theres nothing left to do.
@@AbrahamLincoln4 Except, there is such an unbelievable amount of shit to do in the world, by the time you do it all it would be decades upon decades later. People who fear immortality have no imagination.
@@StopReadingMyNameOrElse if you were immortal the universe would explode and you would be there for all eternity doing nothing and having no-one
@@scoutbite4334 What?
13 Years ...no work... no worries...
Congrats on one of the best videos I’ve ever seen on RUclips. You get the information out in a very timely and quick fashion and you cover all your bases excellent work.
I remember reading about a planned scene for Groundhog Day where Phil would keep track of how many days he spent trapped by reading one page of a book every day at the library, starting alphabetically, and by the end would have read every book.
But when does he practice his hand writing? This not being a skill he'd have much cause to retain, while living his Etch a Sketch existence.
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There are also the deleted scenes where he shoots pool and clears the table with trick shots, and then bowls a perfect game. That adds a few more days.
And this is without accounting for the fact that he probably knows nearly every person in the city at this point, as the ones he picked out in the cafeteria were picked at random. Adding 5 days for each person in town would probably get the day count to explode further
Dank Potatoes LOL he only needed to know the people in the cafe. It’s literally the same people every single day.
But he is not just learning about the people in the cafe. He clearly also knows plenty of others, concidering how in the final scene where he plays piano lots of people who werent in the cafe approach him at random and applaud him, as he seemingly knows them well
Dank Potatoes yes but that still doesn’t mean that he knows even 10% of the 8000 people that live there
you only THINK they where picked at random, it's the same group of people in the diner at the same time every day, so he only needed to learn some basic information about each one of them, it only appears "random" to you because you don't know how many times he's been in that diner on that day at that time or how many times he tried to convince her of this fact, learning only the next person in his path till he got enough to convince her.
@@Anonymos185 and all those people are on the same path he takes everyday, think of it like you go to work, well you see the same group of people everyday eventually you get to know them, but you NEVER meet the people in the building next door, 1 block over or across town.
30 years is what I would say. Like you said at the end the movie didn’t show all the times he failed. It’s interesting to hear people talk about people that have accomplished a lot such as athletes, actors, anyone that excels in their field. I think many people highly under estimate the time put forth by those individuals to get to the level of expert in their specific art/work.
Great comment--and yes, it's easy to discount athletes or experts as merely "gifted," when the truth is they're 'gifted' because they spent thousands of hours on their craft.
Imagine after he grows old and peacefully dies he wakes up on groundhog day.
Should we rename this 12 years a slave to time?
12 years a day laborer
It was ten years, the writer said so.
@@MrParkerman6
The director later changed what he said to 30-40 years.
It was originally supposed to be a much darker movie. Phil's character lives through the day long enough to experience all aspects of human suffering. Not just death/suicide. The amount of time he spent wandering in that despair must have felt like eternity.
It's probably not that much different to white room torture. Phil would have completely lost his mind and eventually have gone brain dead. Not to mention the atrocities Phil likely committed in those 30+ years because nothing mattered at that point.