I love the story because the way the witch dramatically leaves is because she can't stand the fact that everyone just blames each other and instead of trying to solve it they just argue until she can't take it, dumps all her magic beans, and says "screw it I'm out" gets cursed, and vanishes
@@BarelyABookworm i think it was important for her to die, since she lost everything she had and was clearly suffering because of it (i.e.: her chasing Jack through the Woods to try and put a stop to all the deaths) but when the other 3 opposed her because of morals just to then push the blame into her, she just snapped And the lines "i'm leaving you alone, you can tend the garden it's yours" and "Give me claws and a hump, just away from this bump and the doom" means that she's willing to go anywhere as long as she doesn't have to be in a place where she failed everything, everyone and herself AND it was a changing point to the main cast to just see the Witch give up and die because they immediately start to rethink how their wishes and actions way back in the Act 1 Prologue doomed them (which reminds me of the Witch's line in First Midnight: Sometimes the things you most wish for.. are not to be touched!)
Gotta be honest i don't really like this version - it feels like they struggle to put any kind of emotion into it because they're just trying to keep up
Honestly the main reason i prefer this version is because the blame-shifting isnt thought out and dont see that giving each other blame honestly doesnt really matter at that point
But it isn't my fault, I was given that joke. They persuaded me to trade my dignity with that joke, and without that joke, there'd have been no sin of me making that joke in the first place!
@@kennethfajardo9102 WAIT A MINUTE One quick laugh for a joke so old That you didn't even need to tell it which YOU told. Were the laughs so bad? Was the tension broke? Oh and tell us who "persuaded" you to steal the joke! See it's YOUR fault!
No. So it’s your fault. No. Yes it is. It’s not. It’s true. Wait a minute but I only stole the joke to get the attention back FROM YOU! SO ITS YOUR FAULT!
I just realized that in your fault the baker could have stood up for the witch saying she inherited the garden and probably didn't even plant them in the first place and she probably didn't know that they would grow a stalk, and the witch could still be alive
The point of the song is that they're all blaming only the others and denying their (and their loved ones') responsibility, why would he stand up for the witch?
@@BarelyABookworm cursing him never to have children and kidnapping his sister isn't wrong? And he does blame her, and then she deflects, like every other character in this song is doing. Her pointing out that they're wrong for shifting the blame is not her being the voice of reason, it's her being a hypocrite. Why are people in the comments acting like you can't sympathize with the witch and still admit she's wrong?
@@anylove370 Well, maybe the cursing him to be infertile is wrong, but she didn't essentially kidnap Rapunzel, the bakers father agreed to her having Rapunzel, and she was seeing sense, that in the end it doesn't matter who started it, just that they needed to get out of it. Not to mention the fact that she was blamed because she raised the beans, yet it's not like she chose to, she was threatened to by her mother, if she lost them, she would be ugly, well she did lose them but still, she had no intention of using them, and if we are trying to blame someone, then technically we can blame anyone that used or related to them afterwards, and the person that could be at blame the most is Jack, Cinderella was right in defending the fact that she didn't even know what it was, the bakers wife simply did what her husband told her to, which was normal in that time, Red Riding Hood was obviously not gonna believe Jack, and didn't think he would do it, and Jack was the one who stole from the giants, then killed them, and caused this whole thing because he didn't have more than five braincells to not take his cow for only five beans, if we are going to place the blame, put it on Jack or his mom, don't be mad at the witch for having a garden, trying to stop this madness, and mourning her daughter. And another thing, she didn't blame anyone and then say it was wrong, she said that the baker's father stealing her beans was wrong, and then she completely left the conversation, until people said it was her fault for raising beans when it wasn't. She then defended herself like how Cinderella did. The person who wrote the original comment, said how the baker could have stood up for her and done what was right, and that makes sense because he knew she didn't do anything wrong. Check, your move.
@@BarelyABookworm your long ass answer just makes me think maybe you misunderstood the play. First of all saying the baker's wife "only did what her husband told her to" is totally inaccurate, since she went into the woods against her husband's wishes in the first place, It takes two is when he finally agrees to let her stay and help out. The witch cursing the baker's father and his whole family line is wrong, and it's one of the tenants of the play that she doesn't see it that way, but instead grossly downplays it. Like no it's not fair to take someone's baby and curse their family line to extinction because they stole vegetables from you. Also another thing you seem to have misunderstood, the witch didn't know the baker had stolen the beans when she cursed him. She says so in the prologue, taking the baby and cursing the baker's family was punishment for taking the greens. The witch is not "right" in the last midnight, despite saying so. She is willing to ally herself with the others (except jack) bc she can, rightly so, see a common goal for survival, but she still thinks very selfishly and shortsightedly. Trying to ascertain blame at that time is wrong because it serves no purpose and wastes valuable time, but the witch's solution of just hand delivering Jack to the giantess isn't acceptable for the characters for a reason. Rapunzel was killed after having been made insane by the punishment the witch gave her so you'll excuse me for not being really sympathetic to her mourning. All these comments display a really shallow understanding of the play and its characters, this isn't a disney movie with a redeemable villain
I mean, I don't think it's such a novel idea, since she's the one who says it. But she isn't entirely right at all though. She's being pragmatic, but she's also very casual with Jack's life, and it's not unreasonable of the characters to refuse to kill him to save themselves
The best part of this story is that there is no hero Everyone acts selfishly and enjoys their happy ever after until they realize there were consequences
I love the story because the way the witch dramatically leaves is because she can't stand the fact that everyone just blames each other and instead of trying to solve it they just argue until she can't take it, dumps all her magic beans, and says "screw it I'm out" gets cursed, and vanishes
I think she actually dies at the end, I read something about her falling into a pit of tar at the end of the song
@@BarelyABookwormthat's on the (horrible) Disney's movie adaptation!! But yes, she dies
@reihenry I agree, the Disney movie adaptation sucked. But I hated her dying, especially since she was my favorite character in the musical
@@BarelyABookworm i think it was important for her to die, since she lost everything she had and was clearly suffering because of it (i.e.: her chasing Jack through the Woods to try and put a stop to all the deaths) but when the other 3 opposed her because of morals just to then push the blame into her, she just snapped
And the lines "i'm leaving you alone, you can tend the garden it's yours" and "Give me claws and a hump, just away from this bump and the doom" means that she's willing to go anywhere as long as she doesn't have to be in a place where she failed everything, everyone and herself
AND it was a changing point to the main cast to just see the Witch give up and die because they immediately start to rethink how their wishes and actions way back in the Act 1 Prologue doomed them (which reminds me of the Witch's line in First Midnight: Sometimes the things you most wish for.. are not to be touched!)
@reihenry256 you are right, I guess I never thought of it that way but it makes sense
This musical was fireee
the little hand movement she does when she sings 'oh why bother?' 4:50 kills me
So much better than the movie. They go so slow in the movie. Mostly James Cordon’s sake. The other actors could have done it at speed.
Corden was awful. He can't even sing
Gotta be honest i don't really like this version - it feels like they struggle to put any kind of emotion into it because they're just trying to keep up
Honestly the main reason i prefer this version is because the blame-shifting isnt thought out and dont see that giving each other blame honestly doesnt really matter at that point
I'm doing this song as jack and I gotta say. It's HARD (Dont think about saying it)
But it isn't my fault, I was given that joke.
They persuaded me to trade my dignity with that joke,
and without that joke, there'd have been no sin
of me making that joke in the first place!
@@kennethfajardo9102
WAIT A MINUTE
One quick laugh for a joke so old
That you didn't even need to tell it which YOU told.
Were the laughs so bad?
Was the tension broke?
Oh and tell us who "persuaded" you to steal the joke!
See it's YOUR fault!
No.
So it’s your fault.
No.
Yes it is.
It’s not.
It’s true.
Wait a minute but I only stole the joke to get the attention back FROM YOU!
SO ITS YOUR FAULT!
I just realized that in your fault the baker could have stood up for the witch saying she inherited the garden and probably didn't even plant them in the first place and she probably didn't know that they would grow a stalk, and the witch could still be alive
The point of the song is that they're all blaming only the others and denying their (and their loved ones') responsibility, why would he stand up for the witch?
@@anylove370 Cause she did nothing wrong and he knew it, plus the fact that he never really blamed the witch, only defended himself
@@BarelyABookworm cursing him never to have children and kidnapping his sister isn't wrong? And he does blame her, and then she deflects, like every other character in this song is doing. Her pointing out that they're wrong for shifting the blame is not her being the voice of reason, it's her being a hypocrite. Why are people in the comments acting like you can't sympathize with the witch and still admit she's wrong?
@@anylove370 Well, maybe the cursing him to be infertile is wrong, but she didn't essentially kidnap Rapunzel, the bakers father agreed to her having Rapunzel, and she was seeing sense, that in the end it doesn't matter who started it, just that they needed to get out of it. Not to mention the fact that she was blamed because she raised the beans, yet it's not like she chose to, she was threatened to by her mother, if she lost them, she would be ugly, well she did lose them but still, she had no intention of using them, and if we are trying to blame someone, then technically we can blame anyone that used or related to them afterwards, and the person that could be at blame the most is Jack, Cinderella was right in defending the fact that she didn't even know what it was, the bakers wife simply did what her husband told her to, which was normal in that time, Red Riding Hood was obviously not gonna believe Jack, and didn't think he would do it, and Jack was the one who stole from the giants, then killed them, and caused this whole thing because he didn't have more than five braincells to not take his cow for only five beans, if we are going to place the blame, put it on Jack or his mom, don't be mad at the witch for having a garden, trying to stop this madness, and mourning her daughter. And another thing, she didn't blame anyone and then say it was wrong, she said that the baker's father stealing her beans was wrong, and then she completely left the conversation, until people said it was her fault for raising beans when it wasn't. She then defended herself like how Cinderella did. The person who wrote the original comment, said how the baker could have stood up for her and done what was right, and that makes sense because he knew she didn't do anything wrong. Check, your move.
@@BarelyABookworm your long ass answer just makes me think maybe you misunderstood the play. First of all saying the baker's wife "only did what her husband told her to" is totally inaccurate, since she went into the woods against her husband's wishes in the first place, It takes two is when he finally agrees to let her stay and help out. The witch cursing the baker's father and his whole family line is wrong, and it's one of the tenants of the play that she doesn't see it that way, but instead grossly downplays it. Like no it's not fair to take someone's baby and curse their family line to extinction because they stole vegetables from you. Also another thing you seem to have misunderstood, the witch didn't know the baker had stolen the beans when she cursed him. She says so in the prologue, taking the baby and cursing the baker's family was punishment for taking the greens.
The witch is not "right" in the last midnight, despite saying so. She is willing to ally herself with the others (except jack) bc she can, rightly so, see a common goal for survival, but she still thinks very selfishly and shortsightedly. Trying to ascertain blame at that time is wrong because it serves no purpose and wastes valuable time, but the witch's solution of just hand delivering Jack to the giantess isn't acceptable for the characters for a reason. Rapunzel was killed after having been made insane by the punishment the witch gave her so you'll excuse me for not being really sympathetic to her mourning. All these comments display a really shallow understanding of the play and its characters, this isn't a disney movie with a redeemable villain
rip sondheim ❤ the baddest g
I wonder if this recording has ever been digitally remastered? If not, it should! X
Yes, the whole musical was fan remastered in this channel ruclips.net/video/WYvLTTNxRCI/видео.html&ab_channel=ChrisPatstone%28Alt%29
There is a full high quality recording of this musical on RUclips!
it was in hd and i think 4k using ai, i recommend the hd one though
it's actually hilarious how the witch is like i can't deal with your shit goodbye forever and then she just leaves. iconic
Awesome
Actually … of all of them, the witch was right.
I mean, I don't think it's such a novel idea, since she's the one who says it. But she isn't entirely right at all though. She's being pragmatic, but she's also very casual with Jack's life, and it's not unreasonable of the characters to refuse to kill him to save themselves
The best part of this story is that there is no hero
Everyone acts selfishly and enjoys their happy ever after until they realize there were consequences
1:11
How old is this
I don't know, but it was in the ninetye
I think that recording is from 1987
This recording is from 1989 but the show premiered two years before most of the OBC came back to film
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