Alison I come from guitar and you are right on all counts. I can even add vibrato as being ridiculously difficult. I found it easy on guitar. To sound good on violin the vibrato has to be there. Holding the instrument and rocking the note with bowing is so challenging. But that’s why we don’t have violinists on every corner. thank you for your channel.
OMG same here! Been playing guitar for almost 5 years now and I have learnt to play solos, chords, finger picking, and some riffs. I have just recently started to learn violin a week ago and I find it weird with the positioning and hitting other strings with the bow all the time. I have to get through this struggling phase lol
Alison I'm a guitarist and I've just started to learn the violin. I am struggling with holding the bow and holding the violin in a 10 o clock position on the shoulder. I find it very odd without the frets lol. I have to adjust to the new settings, I will get through. I'm so glad I found your channel. I guess I'm staying here from now on . 💯🔥
I have been playing pedal steel for years. It has 10 strings, 4 floor pedals, and 5 knee levers. It was the hardest thing I've ever learned, until last week when I bought my 1st violin. Learning eruption on guitar was easier than learning to hold the bow correctly and maintain the hold. Still working on that.... But I am making progress....🎻🎼🎶🎵
Thank you for this wonderful encouraging video. One of my kids is learning (early primary school) and it has been a real battle at times, but he has found his achievements SOOO rewarding. Along with an excellent teacher who has provided us great support. Thankyou for your wonderful videos. My son first got into the violin because we inherited on and every morning when he got out of bed he'd just fiddle with it (pardon the pun) for ages ... So we looked up you tube for some how to and found yours... Went as far as we could and then lessons... Teacher was so impressed with how hold for complete beginner, thanks to you for that!!! And yes, when he was struggling teacher said exact same thing as this video, violin is a HARD instrument! Such a boost to sense of achievement to acknowledge that and work through it! Thank you for your wonderful videos 💛💛💛
Kind of makes you wonder if the person who came up with the original concept of the violin had a bit of a of sadistic nature. 😉 I can attest with daily practice and discipline you will be surprised at how quickly you progress! Your course has helped me get there.
I started to learn this year and find the violin very technically challenging for the reasons you state. There is virtually no margin for error in both bowing and intonation. However when I played the guitar I found chords difficult to sight read and when I played the piano sight reading chords was also difficult as well as having two lines of music (treble and base clefs). At least the violin has only one line of music and chords don't feature much in most violin music. The violin is so challenging I wonder how it ever managed to survive as a musical instrument.
Good points. When I started, I thought that playing the violin is just so three-dimensional. You move up and down, forward and backward, and left and right. At the same time, reading the notes. Takes some read effort!
Don't mean to be rude (as Philomena Cunk might say 😉), but I'm learning to play electric bass, alto saxophone, acoustic guitar, piano, recorder and harmonica. They're all so !@$%& hard to play properly, from my experience. All I would say is it really takes a lot of determination, perseverance, tenacity and unending passion to get good on any musical instrument. #justathought
In one of the violin documentaries, Itzak Perelman said the problem is " the violin is very, very difficult". He said for the average beginner , between the violin and the piano, there's no comparison. I would agree with anyone that beyond a brand spanking new beginner the piano can get difficult to refine but "at the end of the day " as we like to say, the violin can be the most beautiful sound by far - to my ear anyway.
I agree. The violin is a very difficult instrument to learn to play. That’s why I play the violin only in the first position and only in first two octaves. But I think playing the piano, harp and organ would be more difficult to learn to play. Unless you only play lead sheets, the piano, organ and harp require learning two music languages: the treble clef and the bass clef. And to make things more difficult, you need to play both clefs simultaneously when playing the piano, organ and harp - the bass clef notes with the left hand, and the treble clef notes with the right hand. At least with the violin, you only need to learn one clef - the treble clef. BTW: I love playing the violin, but only in the first position and within the first two octaves. 😊🎻🎶
subscribed to you channel in 2011 or so, after my wife got a violin. She gave up on it 2 weeks after, and I only manage to play children’s songs in c major. Yes I find it extremely hard to master, the piano is so much easier to play. We keep the instrument though - it has a beautiful appeal to it.
When I developed cranial nerve damage (C6 and C7) I could no longer hold the bow with the proper grip. I would tremble and soon toss the bow across the room. I was at a lost for 18 months until I saw a boy with an artificial arm ending in two stainless steel claws griping the bow and playing well. I devised a grip that took the thumb out of play and now am playing again, losing only the flexibility the traditional grip gives you. I have learned to compensate for that inflexibility by moving the instrument back and forth and can bow without wavering from bridge to pegs now.
Tuning was difficult at first dozen times I did it. I was trembling , sweating, swearing because I had paid over 600 dollars on a Fiddlerman Concert Series instrument and was terrified of breaking it. After I was able relax, finally, I now enjoy it. After I get it tuned by plucking, then bowing, I tune myself with 4th finger, then both string and finger. Being a bit OCD, being close on my tuning app isn't enough. I MUST have the dinging big flashing check mark. It makes me happy even if it's a bit pathetic.
Not pathetic, this is the only way to get the notes accurately “in your head” so that you won’t need a tuning machine eventually. I thought I had perfect pitch because I could. But then I didn’t practice for 25 years and guess what my internal tuner totally broke. It has taken 2 years of lessons and practice for it to start getting close to what it was. (Point is that you can learn pitch, and being sloppy with tuning isn’t going to get you there)
Once upon a time, I played cello in grade school. I have tried trumpet, guitar, and euphonium without success. I am getting a violin to go back to when I was having fun learning music. Since I have a lot of time due to disabilities, I am eager to become a decent player in record time. I think in 12 or so weeks I can be a decent violin player on the streets of my small town. I base this on when I was a bus driver, I was required to make announcements. The "average" time it took drivers to make announcements was two months. It took me two weeks. Why? I practiced at home for 2 hours per day (1 hour for each set of announcements). The practice was deliberate. What was I going to say when? Do I start with X and end with Y? etc. I used the actual job to perform the practiced routine. I made a lot of mistakes during the course of a 10 hour day (40 total announcements). Even with the mistakes I knew I was making, I continued to do what I practiced. Each night, I studied my notes and made changes the next day. I repeated this process until on day 5 of actual driving I realized a) I didn't make any mistakes and b) I got all of the right info into the announcements. At that point, i started adding flair to my routine. Two working days later I was taken out of service and grilled to find out how I "easily mastered" making announcement. My response was that I did not confuse practice with performance. My approach to learning violin will be 2 hours of focused practice in the morning followed by a few hours of performance (playing) in the evening. Take notes and plan for the focus practice in the AM. Rinse and Repeat.
Miss or Mrs. Sparrow, I began violin by the first Thursday of 2023. My hands are constantly sweaty in everything I do, would my sweaty hands hurt my violin? What can and what should I do about it?
I've been playing the violin for 8 years now.....I have a very sweaty hand too. All you just need to do is have a soft(cotton) piece of cloth, so you can clean the violin and bow after practice...that's how we sweaty hands 👐 human survive with the violin 😂
Hi could you tell me if you know anything about the Hidersine vivente academy violin, only I'm thinking of buying it as my first violin for a beginner.
The violin isn't difficult at all. Easy peasy, any fool can do it. HOWEVER playing the Bow is close to being a crime against humanity! Contrary to appearances, the violin played with the bow, it feels like I'm playing the bow with the violin.
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Alison I come from guitar and you are right on all counts. I can even add vibrato as being ridiculously difficult. I found it easy on guitar. To sound good on violin the vibrato has to be there. Holding the instrument and rocking the note with bowing is so challenging. But that’s why we don’t have violinists on every corner. thank you for your channel.
OMG same here! Been playing guitar for almost 5 years now and I have learnt to play solos, chords, finger picking, and some riffs. I have just recently started to learn violin a week ago and I find it weird with the positioning and hitting other strings with the bow all the time. I have to get through this struggling phase lol
Alison I'm a guitarist and I've just started to learn the violin. I am struggling with holding the bow and holding the violin in a 10 o clock position on the shoulder. I find it very odd without the frets lol. I have to adjust to the new settings, I will get through. I'm so glad I found your channel. I guess I'm staying here from now on . 💯🔥
I have been playing pedal steel for years. It has 10 strings, 4 floor pedals, and 5 knee levers. It was the hardest thing I've ever learned, until last week when I bought my 1st violin. Learning eruption on guitar was easier than learning to hold the bow correctly and maintain the hold. Still working on that....
But I am making progress....🎻🎼🎶🎵
Respect. The pedal steel is such a great sound but so hard to play.
Thank you for this wonderful encouraging video. One of my kids is learning (early primary school) and it has been a real battle at times, but he has found his achievements SOOO rewarding. Along with an excellent teacher who has provided us great support.
Thankyou for your wonderful videos. My son first got into the violin because we inherited on and every morning when he got out of bed he'd just fiddle with it (pardon the pun) for ages ... So we looked up you tube for some how to and found yours... Went as far as we could and then lessons... Teacher was so impressed with how hold for complete beginner, thanks to you for that!!! And yes, when he was struggling teacher said exact same thing as this video, violin is a HARD instrument! Such a boost to sense of achievement to acknowledge that and work through it! Thank you for your wonderful videos 💛💛💛
*inherited one
*Bow hold
Thank you again for being part of our amazing violin journey. Such a beautiful instrument 💛
Kind of makes you wonder if the person who came up with the original concept of the violin had a bit of a of sadistic nature. 😉
I can attest with daily practice and discipline you will be surprised at how quickly you progress! Your course has helped me get there.
Someone: please help me to develop patience.
Me: lemme get you a violin
I started to learn this year and find the violin very technically challenging for the reasons you state. There is virtually no margin for error in both bowing and intonation. However when I played the guitar I found chords difficult to sight read and when I played the piano sight reading chords was also difficult as well as having two lines of music (treble and base clefs). At least the violin has only one line of music and chords don't feature much in most violin music. The violin is so challenging I wonder how it ever managed to survive as a musical instrument.
I love my violin. Posture and concentration play a big role.
Good points. When I started, I thought that playing the violin is just so three-dimensional. You move up and down, forward and backward, and left and right. At the same time, reading the notes. Takes some read effort!
Don't mean to be rude (as Philomena Cunk might say 😉), but I'm learning to play electric bass, alto saxophone, acoustic guitar, piano, recorder and harmonica. They're all so !@$%& hard to play properly, from my experience. All I would say is it really takes a lot of determination, perseverance, tenacity and unending passion to get good on any musical instrument. #justathought
OMG. I can hear her voice while reading this.
In one of the violin documentaries, Itzak Perelman said the problem is " the violin is very, very difficult". He said for the average beginner , between the violin and the piano, there's no comparison. I would agree with anyone that beyond a brand spanking new beginner the piano can get difficult to refine but "at the end of the day " as we like to say, the violin can be the most beautiful sound by far - to my ear anyway.
I agree. The violin is a very difficult instrument to learn to play. That’s why I play the violin only in the first position and only in first two octaves. But I think playing the piano, harp and organ would be more difficult to learn to play. Unless you only play lead sheets, the piano, organ and harp require learning two music languages: the treble clef and the bass clef. And to make things more difficult, you need to play both clefs simultaneously when playing the piano, organ and harp - the bass clef notes with the left hand, and the treble clef notes with the right hand. At least with the violin, you only need to learn one clef - the treble clef. BTW: I love playing the violin, but only in the first position and within the first two octaves. 😊🎻🎶
subscribed to you channel in 2011 or so, after my wife got a violin. She gave up on it 2 weeks after, and I only manage to play children’s songs in c major.
Yes I find it extremely hard to master, the piano is so much easier to play.
We keep the instrument though - it has a beautiful appeal to it.
When I developed cranial nerve damage (C6 and C7) I could no longer hold the bow with the proper grip. I would tremble and soon toss the bow across the room. I was at a lost for 18 months until I saw a boy with an artificial arm ending in two stainless steel claws griping the bow and playing well. I devised a grip that took the thumb out of play and now am playing again, losing only the flexibility the traditional grip gives you. I have learned to compensate for that inflexibility by moving the instrument back and forth and can bow without wavering from bridge to pegs now.
Tuning was difficult at first dozen times I did it. I was trembling , sweating, swearing because I had paid over 600 dollars on a Fiddlerman Concert Series instrument and was terrified of breaking it. After I was able relax, finally, I now enjoy it. After I get it tuned by plucking, then bowing, I tune myself with 4th finger, then both string and finger. Being a bit OCD, being close on my tuning app isn't enough. I MUST have the dinging big flashing check mark. It makes me happy even if it's a bit pathetic.
Not pathetic, this is the only way to get the notes accurately “in your head” so that you won’t need a tuning machine eventually.
I thought I had perfect pitch because I could. But then I didn’t practice for 25 years and guess what my internal tuner totally broke. It has taken 2 years of lessons and practice for it to start getting close to what it was. (Point is that you can learn pitch, and being sloppy with tuning isn’t going to get you there)
The violin is difficult to learn but well worth the effort so please DON'T FRET lol 😅
YESSSS!!! YEEEEESSSSS!!! Who the heck made this up?!??!!?
Once upon a time, I played cello in grade school. I have tried trumpet, guitar, and euphonium without success. I am getting a violin to go back to when I was having fun learning music. Since I have a lot of time due to disabilities, I am eager to become a decent player in record time.
I think in 12 or so weeks I can be a decent violin player on the streets of my small town. I base this on when I was a bus driver, I was required to make announcements. The "average" time it took drivers to make announcements was two months. It took me two weeks. Why? I practiced at home for 2 hours per day (1 hour for each set of announcements). The practice was deliberate. What was I going to say when? Do I start with X and end with Y? etc. I used the actual job to perform the practiced routine. I made a lot of mistakes during the course of a 10 hour day (40 total announcements). Even with the mistakes I knew I was making, I continued to do what I practiced. Each night, I studied my notes and made changes the next day.
I repeated this process until on day 5 of actual driving I realized a) I didn't make any mistakes and b) I got all of the right info into the announcements. At that point, i started adding flair to my routine. Two working days later I was taken out of service and grilled to find out how I "easily mastered" making announcement. My response was that I did not confuse practice with performance.
My approach to learning violin will be 2 hours of focused practice in the morning followed by a few hours of performance (playing) in the evening. Take notes and plan for the focus practice in the AM. Rinse and Repeat.
Nothing is hard to play or learn if you have an ideal/great teacher and if you are self interested to learn that thing with passion.
Yes I would agree. No rushing or comparing yourself to others progress
My friend “piano is the hardest instrument” me,you don’t know the meaning of “hard”
Miss or Mrs. Sparrow, I began violin by the first Thursday of 2023. My hands are constantly sweaty in everything I do, would my sweaty hands hurt my violin? What can and what should I do about it?
I've been playing the violin for 8 years now.....I have a very sweaty hand too. All you just need to do is have a soft(cotton) piece of cloth, so you can clean the violin and bow after practice...that's how we sweaty hands 👐 human survive with the violin 😂
@@musvictoredikan Thank you
Hi could you tell me if you know anything about the Hidersine vivente academy violin, only I'm thinking of buying it as my first violin for a beginner.
Came for the thumbnail.
Can you help with learning how to play a five string violin?
its the exact same, only difference is an extra string being C (5 notes lower than G)
Wow, first. All instruments are difficult to master. Listen to Mike Compton on mandolin or Billy Strings on guitar.
Just like learning to use a controller or a keyboard.
The violin isn't difficult at all. Easy peasy, any fool can do it. HOWEVER playing the Bow is close to being a crime against humanity! Contrary to appearances, the violin played with the bow, it feels like I'm playing the bow with the violin.
Haha! You’re kind of right
But I wouldn’t say playing the left hand properly is easy.