“What is wrong with our civilization can be said in one word-- unreality. We are in danger of forgetting all facts, good and bad, in a haze of high-minded phraseology.” -GK Chesterton
I’ve known two people who were deeply involved in cults, and everything Lindsay says here is true. The cult will promise esoteric, hidden knowledge and they will have a hierarchical structure. This all appeals to the inductee’s ego. The inductee will want acceptance, hidden secret knowledge, and the ability to work up the hierarchy by gaining spiritual merit badges, which makes them feel superior to newbies and the general public. They are also taught to fear and feel contempt for normal people, which of course helps to preserve the cult by insulating members from challenges to the doctrine.
@@Mooxieclangunfortunately so in many cases. But the true message of Jesus Christ is the antithesis of this. Jesus didn’t hide truth, he offered it freely to anyone. There’s no initiation or gatekeeping.. he offered himself as the ultimate sacrifice to allow us.. anyone.. the amazing privilege of entering into a relationship with the REAL God of the universe. All other religions and cults require you to do some kind of work for salvation. Christianity is the only one that offers eternal acceptance at the beginning of the journey.. the faith that Jesus talks about has nothing to do with gnosis. (As much as the gnostics would try to say otherwise)
My pet theory is that this is the product of generations of teachers who are not particularly bright or competent, and rely on trickery, obfuscation, and indirect belittling of students to assert their tenuous authority. The best teachers I know don't use trick questions and can admit when they're wrong.
One of the first things I learned in college was the humility to accept my own fundamental ignorance and admit when I'm wrong. Unfortunately, I seem to have been a statistical outlier.
Reminds me of the yard sign: “No matter who you are, no matter what color your skin, no matter what you believe, we are glad you are our neighbor.” Really? What if I believe that children should be sexualized as early as possible and be made to choose their gender? What if I believe that blacks are by nature inferior? Or, what if I am part of the Charles Manson cult? The sign states a basic truth in skin color as being irrelevant to being a good neighbor. No one would object to that. But it is not a basic truth that who you are or what you believe is irrelevant. The sign is pure wokism and virtue signaling.
You're already woke if you reduce race to skin color. It's just as subversive as saying men can get pregnant. "Skin color" isn't the reason people avoid living next to certain groups. Neither is it the reason for CRT (Critical _Race_ Theory) or those shouting "Eradicate Whiteness".
Even MLK said to judge by the content of one's character. Specifically in preference to judging based on the color of skin, but he still said to judge character in that statement.
@@treesurgeon2441 It's not that nuanced thinking is bad, it's the attempt to deny the existence of evil or truth that is bad. Good and Evil are such simplistic ways of thinking, so they say.
@@gameguy8101 ok but if what they are saying applies to commies then it applies to n@zis. Do you seriously think they are saying you have to love and accept n@zi or do you think they wrote it cuz it sounds good and will garner support? It's called occams razor and you should use it sometime.
@jaxjax2011 He's commenting on how absurd/hysterical Lyndsay sounds to those coming from a religious background. James Lyndsay acts as if all secret knowledge must be obvious to surface level analysis. If this was the case, it wouldn't be SECRET KNOWLEDGE. Clearly, Lyndsay is frustrated by being a spiritually weak agnostic/atheist who simply cannot grasp basic tenets of occult knowledge. So, he goes around suggesting "as below so above" has something to do with political philosophy. He's desperately grasping at straws because he lacks foundational knowledge about the subject matter itself.
I ran into a subtle level 5 ploy today from a Diversity and Inclusion executive. One of her main points in her talk was "You may be right, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong." Well, it is true that the world is complicated and seemingly competing things can be true at the same time. Seems pro-nuance. It is also, however, a statement that can be used as a very convenient back door to any debate you lose- "well you may be right about that, but my opinion can still be valid." No, if someone is right about something factual and objective, your opinion is not valid and you are not right just because you hypothetically see the complexity of the world. That's just a way to avoid being accountable to the truth and going through the pain of finding out you're wrong and correcting yourself and reexamining your related views. She also defined insight with the cartoon graphic of people disagreeing over what is a 6 or a 9 based on their point of view... if your view of the epitome of insight is realizing that all/most things are fundamentally ambiguous and the truth is just perspective and opinion, I don't think you have much insight into life...
It's the old trick of relativism. Use the flaw in the good to deny its objective superiority. Then demand equal treatment for inferior products. I think this perfectly sums up modern art museums and a lot of politics. "Your opinion is 99% correct. MY opinion is 1% correct. So our opinions are both not perfect. So their value is equal." and then later: "We established the value of our opinions is equal. So give me an equal share 50% of the resources I want."
Regarding the "dignity" thing: there are two approaches to doing politics - Scott Alexander called them "mistake theory" and "conflict theory". "Mistake theory" assumes that other people argue in good faith, and if there's a disagreement, it's possible that one side is just mistaken, and we need to figure out what the facts are, understand where the disagreement comes from, come to a compromise, change your own opinion, or convince the other side. "Conflict theory" assumes that people you disagree with are basically your enemy, discussion is pointless, and you just do what it takes to defeat them. And ideally, everyone would play the "mistake theory" game, and we would cooperate to find actual solutions to actual problems, and the "losing" side could at least take comfort in knowing that the opponent is not screwing them over intentionally. But if someone is actually (overtly or covertly) playing the "conflict theory" game, it's kind of pointless to play "mistake theory" with them. Discussions will at best convince fence-sitters, but are more likely to harden the conflict lines. Invitations from conflict players to be understanding and willing to compromise are invitations to unilaterally disarm - this is the point that James is making. If everyone is playing "conflict theory", you get something like US politics, or politics in the Middle East. Two (or more) sides where everyone would rather chop off their arm than cooperate with the other side to find a solution that works for everyone. So basically the problem is to find the people on all sides who are willing to engage in good faith, get them into power, and make sure they are not swayed by people on their side who would rather play conflict politics.
Successful EXCLUSION of bad-faith (or conflict theory) actors is what enables trust and cooperation. Blind INCLUSION prevents this correction and leads us right into neverending conflicts.
I recently had a thought about disgust. Disgust sensitivity has an inverse relationship to intelligence. That means that finding things intrinsically disgusting is as good a survival strategy as being smart. My armour is contempt, my shield is disgust
@@owenchubb5449Your logic also dictates that being smart serves just as well as being disgusted. If you're going to invoke disgust as the preferable option to wanton intelligence, then I think it's only fair to invoke intelligence as the preferable option to wanton disgust. Perhaps we were endowed with both for some reason...
The point about "until you do something that comprises you" in order to lock you into evil / the cult hits home. I think about all those parents who compromised themselves by mutilating their children in pursuit of the trans lie. Or mother's who aborted their children. They will defend their decision until they die - they are locked into the cult. Forever in hell.
The temptation is the occult. The hidden knowledge or wisdom. James doesn't use that word much, seeming to prefer esoteric and such. But the occult wisdom is the temptation for the spiritual "get rich quick scheme" they offer.
My sister was just watching a clip of a gender confused young woman. Apparently she overheard two other women voicing opinions she didn't like. So it's off to TikTok to cry and moan: "I'm not a disease! *I have the right to exist!"* Yes..and those women she spoke of also *have the right to say things that you don't agree with.* A little unrelated, but it makes me appreciate our constitution, which seems to be the ward against this gnostic mumbo jumbo. Hence why Gnostics/Communists et al. Are so desperate to infect it or tear it down.
I can empathize, but she's mistaking one PART of who she is, for ALL of who she is. I'm on the autism spectrum, but I'm not Autism. When I was obese, I wasn't Obesity. People need to stop mistaking one single facet of their physical or psychological identity as their WHOLE identity. 🤷🏾♀️
@@zxyatiywariii8 This seems different. If someone told you you shouldn't exist because you are autistic, what would you react with? I am also autistic, and I know I would be very upset if anyone told me this. That's precisely because autism isn't everything about me, and so I shouldn't be judged by this condition
If you overheard people saying you shouldn't exist or that you should just go away and die would you accept that? If a lunatic on the streets started shouting out around the neighbourhood that black people should all be executed should he be allowed to do so for free speech? And this seems to conflict with the conservatives who say that certain books should be banned from schools, or as a more general thing that people lower than a certain age cannot vote despite them being old enough to physically go and vote?
I see an army of strawmen here. Do you even know a conservative or just caricatures? Certain books may not be appropriate for all ages, especially without commentary. You wouldn't put Mein Kampf into a middle school library. That's not the same as banning a book for everyone. If people tell you individually to go die, you can be upset. But if people say things like "Emo kids are so annoying" and you are an emo kid, just deal with it. Not everyone has to like you and that goes doubly for trendy new ways of self expression. Voting is more complex than walking there and making a cross. Same as how reading is more complex than just holding a book in your hands. Kids are inexperienced and irresponsible. If you wouldn't trust a kid enough to lend them your car, you shouldn't trust them enough to wield political power in your country. Also, kids are too easy to manipulate with things that sound fair and logical, but work out terribly in real life because of missing context. So, just like your post basically...
Thank you for sharing this. I would love to hear more about the temptation aspect of Gnosticism. I have recently discovered an element of myself that wants to believe their lies and have been searching for truth through Christianity. However, there must be a more objective way to outline the temptation than merely the symbol of the snake.
I’m sorry but this was so far off the mark of what Gnosticism is conveying. Follow your heart and your meditations. God speaks to us all individually. Let no man define it for you.
@@Son_Of_Conan I agree but this guy is agitated about something. That something being gnostisism. I see where you are coming from and I respect it. However gnostisism reaches into the hearts of every man and we all need an objective means of analyzing this phenomenon if we ever wish to break free from it in this day and age. God bless you.
Especially considering that he says we must stand with truth(hard agree) yet the serpent was the one who was the honest one(despite whatever motives he had) in the myth.
@@Son_Of_ConanI've always gotten the sense that his understanding of these issue is....a stretch let's say. 😂😂 where should I go to get good info about the subject? Besides internally as you mention
@@glowindark64 I would check out the Nag Hammadi texts themselves, and the scholars who have done the most unbiased research. People presenting not outlandish interpretations (there are some, hence some validity to James’ points here) of what those scriptures say. From what I have come to learn, Christ came to be a literal example, truly the son of God, but also an attainable mindset to be striven for. Also, the creation myth is very different, and there are different versions of Gnosticism as well. I find Sethian Gnosticism to be the most intriguing, personally.
Hey Dr. Lindsay, I believe I have been raised into a dialectical worldview, if you say trying to represent both sides of a topic and more or less seeking compromise or synchronistic truths pulled from both sides,, or more often than not just making attempts at counterfactuals are all examples of engaging in dialectical thought processes. Could you do a video on being able to identify when one is thinking dialectically, if/when it may be appropriate and ways to structure thinking that doesn't use or combats the dialectic approach. Thanks.
Hey James I have always found the story of Prometheus and Lucifer to put in mythological terms the figure of the Gnostic character. What do y’all think?
I agree with the allure of secret knowledge capturing people. The initiation maybe something in a Secret societys but isn't required in Gnostic movements. It wasnt even about externallising anything. It was about knowing yourself. The later points are then seen by yourself as you have reviewed and reflected on your own behaviour and thus see some of the ego and motives in others. But I can see how in certain groups this has been usurped and could be miss used.
Thank you for this it is very important. The question I have is why are all the Gnostics I know anti woke? To give one example Christopher Knowles who runs a blog called Secret Sun describes himself as a synchro mystic,yet he mainly uses a gnostic vocabulary and talks on a lot of gnostic podcasts. These people all identify as anarchists and libertarians politically and say a lot of the things you say . Maybe they are neo gnostic idk. Anyway thanks for what you do. Btw I am not gnostic but I have toyed with some of the ideas,maybe to my detriment. Thanks again for these videos.
I think it’s because Gnosticism has two paths. First you realize that the world you think you live in is largely controlled by elite hands: the archons. Your first option is to join the archons and continue construsting the world of the unenlightened. This is what the woke academics, and media personalities and celebrities do. They become the policies of words and ideas, and make sure everyone constructs and understands the world the way they do. The second option is to pull against the archons. This is what James does. To expose the lies of the archons to the people, so that ordinary people can be disenchanted and see theough the matrix of the archons. This path also centers on the seek ‘reality’, or the truth behind all this, that which the archons wish to conceal. Both derive from a gnostic concept in my opinion.
James Lindsay is inexplicably railing against an almost imaginary enemy - most of what is imagined being a claimed alignment between Gnosticism and far left ideology. It perhaps speaks more of fears surrounding the vulnerability of Christian faith (perhaps including his own?) than any danger inherent in Gnosticism. Gnosticism, as its name suggests, isn’t really a belief system, so has no inherent need to seduce or convert anyone. A Gnostic can be annoying or smug, but then so can anyone.
Because James doesnt know what hes talking about and is lumping in an entire set of ideas into a communist frame. If someone were to start pointing out all the Jewish influences in communism he'd sperg out even though hes making the exact same blanket statement about Gnostics.
James - Please write a book about the fact that Wokeism is a religion. I was doing some research into the Manichaean religion and saw many similarities...
I also think we are imprisoned inside a reality that can be very harsh and nasty, in a meat-prison that will fail us in the end. (ask anyone with chronic, painful conditions for instance). But the way out of that is actually dealing with reality to find solutions to problems, the electrical grid and penicillin are two easy examples. To attempt to dream your way out through some wonky theoretical mumbo-jumbo is just the saddest, most pathetic cope ever.
I think seeing human progression via technological development is another part of the dream cult. Technology has made life very easy to people, but despite that they are weaker and more miserable than ever. The people need higher connection to truth than just 'science.' In trying to remove God and Christian philosophy, something usurping and evil took its place. Be careful.
They run the policies that drive PHARMA and the food industry, keeping people sick ~ meat-prison well describes it... Satan teaches them how to be expert liars, "the father of the lie", they are "promised freedom but become slaves to their passions" as they have no morals. Christ is catching up with them through the 'hidden manna'.
Yes, well said. I also have chronic pain, and my body is definitely a meat-prison, but someday there may be better treatments for people like me, and this can only happen through rigorous scientific research. Even now, I'm better off than someone with my condition would have been in the nineteenth century, solely due to medical progress in SCIENCE, not ideology.
@@zxyatiywariii8With Chronic Pain Syndrome l was also better off due to science but then two yrs ago the move to get people off of pain medication went full throttle. So even though my med wasn’t one of the strong troublesome ones, it was still targeted, so my medication went away. I had never misused it, never used more than l should, was faithful with followup, but no, illegals can bring the nasty fent in and kill people with it and that’s just ok but for the law abiding citizens who needs pain control, forget it! This happened after my husband died so then there was deep grief combined with debilitating pain. So, yep, sometimes life really sucks, but l got through the worst of the grief and lve become accustomed to functioning painfully. I’m not nearly as productive and lm sure not as happy but l have adjusted. That’s what we people do, we adjust! Anyway, sorry to hear about your pain situation and hope you have benefited from some good kind of resolution that keeps you going. Many blessings!
@@zxyatiywariii8But the end result of your proposition is the same. And in fact, the method is the same too. You say that your life is "better thanks to science, not ideology", failing to realize that, in fact, the science that made your life better was ideological in nature. Science does not cure disease, in the same way guns do not shoot people. A person used the scientific process to cure a disease, because their ideology told them it was good to do that. Without the ideology, there is no cure.
Does anyone know if James Lindsay has done a talk with Douglas Murray? I was thinking that would be a great combination, but can’t find any such interview in my web search.
Level 1: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them. Level 2: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them. Level 3: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them. Level 4: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them. Level 5: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them. Level 6: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them. Level 7: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them. Level 8: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them.
The woke movement profits greatly from many normies' unwillingness to set boundaries. Of course, if you meet a stranger, you shouldn't assume he's bad and you should engage in good faith. But once he's shown you over and over he can't be trusted, then you should stop trusting him and stop engaging in good faith. That latter part often gets lost. Discernment. Assume people are good? Yes. But you also need to drop that assumption once you know better.
It seems to me that any critical analysis of Gnosticism in its current form would need to analyze modern thinkers/proponents. In my very limited research so far, I'd say Nietzsche and certainly Jung are two influential minds that have Gnostic elements, Jung's early work outright embraced Gnostic principles. The current iteration is more of a psychology than a religion, and that is why I think it has a growing appeal. It is individualist, personal, and demands quiet introspection. Gnosticism doesn't come to you in the form of a cult leader enticing spiritual enlightenment, it comes to you in the dark of night, after a vivid dream that leaves you wondering "what was that?"
Aye the hermeneutic temptation. Dang why didn't I think of using that?! Btw Gnostic temptation definitely affected me growing up in church, just didn't know it!
It isn’t that we can’t tell, it’s that we can recognize the terrible smell of millions of starving & dead. One is a subset of the other, now that our words have been problematized & queered. I’ve met a few true Scotsmen in my day as well-Sláinte mhath!
@@UBERLADEN69 Dude, we know the results of the application of Marxism were millions dead. That doesn't mean that Marxism and liberalism are the same concepts. Nor do I think that many of these extreme liberals would identify as Marxists. So why confuse the concepts for right-wing rhetorical reasons? At best it is shoddy thinking, at worst, basic confusion. In either case, it's a misuse of language.
@@grantbartley483exactly. "Tyranny is the deliberate removal of nuance" and that's exactly what's james is doing. Disgusting and ironic.i apologize for my fellow Americans and their ignorance.
@@glowindark64 Thanks, I've never heard that quote before, Tyranny or other authoritarianism certainly seems to try to channel all thinking into the official line, and that involves the supression of nuance. But that is international, and it's evidently happening on all sides. So I'd like to apologise for the stupidity of humanity!
I truly don't see what's wrong with this, breaking these rules is also ineffective. As long as it's within the framework of democracy which it seems very clear about. The problem is our distorted "Left v Right" framing, which allows communists to claim the same category as democrats. So no these rules don't apply to anti-american ideologies
Not really, the bad guys don't have the 'gnowledge' of the demiurge, but the protagonists gain it. Unless you play P5R, then the bad guy definitely has gnosis and you beat his ass too.
I'd say, everybody has a right to speak. Everybody also has a right to listen to someone, or to listen to someone else, because no one has time to listen to everyone.
@@zxyatiywariii8 So if someone were to run onto the streets shouting at the top of their lungs that all black people should be executed should everyone just ignore that because they don't care to listen?
It’s all very well to say ‘we don’t compromise with false, we don’t compromise with evil’ but the problem is that different people disagree on what is false and what is evil. You are seen as false an evil by many. And you see many as false and evil. …. There no singular probable correct set of facts or moral righteousness. That’s cult speak to say there is.
I don’t have a problem with the index conceptually but I can see how it could be used in dangerous ways. Seeing the dignity in every person is basically the Christian idea that all are made in the image of God. But that doesn’t make everyone’s viewpoint equally valid. Being able to truly understand the view of the other side is important, but that doesn’t mean the other side is equally valid.
Hard to say. However in the introduction to Beyond Good and Evil Christopher Janaway stated "Nietzsche's philosophy of the 'will to power' might fuel success, yet also be dangerous if in the wrong hands." Also, at the end he admits to viewing his thoughts as "Evil".
@@SamuelVahle Should you venture down this rabbit hole be sure to also learn about Vanguardism and Bundism. Learning why it is an insult to call someone a Bundist today can be very revealing.
Part 1 of this video sounded like how Darth Vader came about. Joining the dark side that "they" were trying to keep from him. Part 2 of the video about the dignity index is hilarious- they would never have all of that apply to Trump supporters!
I like how gnostics have congregated around James Lindsay's podcasts to complain about his speech. It has a certain irony to it. He makes pretty straightforward and legible points, and he approaches any implications of greater meanings or impositions behind these topics with a usually humble and direct attitude. You could only ever construe all this as being solipcism if you had preconceived notions about the esoteric landscape and teleological trajectory of the current marketplace of ideas... which would make you a gnostic.
I'm coming at it from the pov of depth psychology, the use of 'gnostic' here appearing to represent an archetypal pattern within the collective psyche that's expressed over and over in human affairs. Othering these 'gnostics' & loading that term in an us vs them dichotomy is certainly a mistake. The hypocrisy in our own applying of critical theory should be lost on no one, and to become a polarity in that archetypal pattern or tendency is to become unconscious & irrelevant.
The difference between religion and gnosticism are the words of man placed into the mouth of god and the observations of man placed in the minds of men against the idea of god. Still, we live in a world where we must consume and none are beyond suffering, a world were Catholics committed genocide against Cathars. Once again the good doctor eloquently describes the stitching of the hand while neglecting any mention the wound. Oh if only such an observation could be made by the good doctor of events which took place in AGTR-5 and how the marginalization of undesired information operates in our minds as an interplay of mental defense mechanism and most importantly what group of gnostics are responsible for placing that mechanism there. Kudos doc, you have a gift but dare you use it to pronounce the name of those responsible. Please contemplate that the people ruining the world all have names and addresses.
Should I warn people that a "Qlippoth" or husk is a cabalistic aka gnostic word for an empty shell or husk filled with a foreign spirit, i.e. a demon-puppet? For that is what you present yourself to be, sir. The "genocide" was an insurrection, not a genocide, and it was started by the Cathars, not the Catholics, who attacked nobles and their families, burned churches, killed women and children, and provoked a crusade. History was kind, for once, and the Cathars were wiped out. They preached self-castration to free oneself from one's sex, eerily similar to modern Critical Gender Theory.
@@johnwright1447 Should I warn people that John is a jewish name? I see, accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty. I suppose you can cite credible and verifiable source for your claims of an inverse inquisition by the Chathars against the Catholics, or do you mean to say that Guillaume Belibaste was somehow Catholic. Interesting view you seem have on the subject.
Interesting. 6 minutes in, and it occurs to me that the description applies equally as well to the QAnon phenomenon as to woke Marxism. Two groups who consider each other to be the opposite, both attracted by the same Gnostic temptation.
That's true. They lure you in with knowledge they claim to have, then have you compromise on what you believe (Like say, taking an oath), and thus trap you into their belief system.
Love James. He introduced me to gnosticism. I agree that believing in Gnosticism is essentially the problem of modern academics. However I also think that from our perspective Gnosticism holds true. The academics who withhold information and create a false world of language and constructions to keep people contained and controlled - they are the archons. We, those who try to not get caught up in their games , we are on the breakout journey to gnosis.
Right off the hop you get it wrong. Gnosis is not a belief. It is a specific form of knowledge. Carl Jung was asked if he believed in God in a famous interview. His reply was that he had no need to believe it. He knew it directly. Faith requires no evidence. Gnosis is the experience of evidence.
@@TobiasC-mg4zk Gnosticism is a belief system. Within Gnosticism and its variant traditions, they have the concept of 'gnosis' - which is what you are talking about.
Very respectfully, let me post here a slice off my recent video´s script. It´s pertinent: This course is sure to be of interest to those interested in defeating the phenomenon known as socialism; the very real push towards universal slavery, terror, and death. A beast that goes by many names; communism, feminism, Gnosticism, Nihilism, the nauseating rainbow flood demanding you lobotomize, poison and castrate yourself, demanding you lie with every breath you take. I myself prefer the label “Platonism”, as I understand Plato´s concept of a fallen, shadow world of bungled, imperfect shapes to be the true heart of the detestable movement. From that incoherent concept sprouts the entire idea of "Evil": the rootof socialism. I have yet to hear ANY of the warriors that oppose the great socialist wave of our age talk about this. The closest someone gets to addressing the issue is James Lindsay. He accurately traces Marxism to the “idea of the world as a jail for the spirit” but he remains, I believe, willfully oblivious of the fact that the base idea of a “fallen world” a “prison reality” and a vision of men as victims and toys of the cosmos are present in most if not all of the monotheistic religions. Monotheism, that is another fitting name for the foe you and I, together, shall banish from our hearts....
@@glowindark64 what is it about what I said that sounded stupid to you? As for how I speak/write, I´m making an effort to be precise. English isn´t my first language, but I make an effort. Do you speak another language? Do you read at all?
The difference may be the attitude. "The world is a prison. I accept that. I have little influence. So I need to be a good person and do the little things I can to make it better. Also, maybe the next world could be better and I take some solace in that." VS "The world is a prison. I do not accept that. Everything and everyone is corrupt. So I need to do what I can to gain power and control the prison. Then I will break it. When the prison is gone, I will build a better world because I am a megalomaniac."
So, monotheism may be fine if it promotes acceptance of reality and some humility when trying to change it. Denial if reality is how the woke mess starts.
Also, do you get the hype around Plato? Wow, our perceptions are not perfect. Wow, cave analogy. Sooo deep. It was really celebrated at school, but actually added nothing of value to out thinking.
I don't even agree with number 5, some people's views are inherently violent. If you're going to make laws against advocating for violence, acts of terrorism, etc, then how is it any better when the opposition advocates for state-sanctioned violence against us?
Should tax protestors be kidnapped and caged? If yes, you're endorsing violence (or at least threats) against anyone and everyone. If no, why would anyone pay tax?
Wow that's sure a lot more complicated than my own theory, which is just that it's more like a 7th grade girl threatening to not invite her best friend to her birthday party unless she lets her borrow her cute white top sometimes.
James doesnt even think out his conclusions. If this applies to commies it applies to n@zis too. Does he really think they want us to accept n@zism? Or maybe they are just saying a bunch of woke buzz words to sounds like good pp [VIRTUE SIGNALING]
@@glowindark64How is it antisemitic? Is this one of those things where you accuse something or someone of bigotry to gain control of it and/or reduce its influence? Timestamp the antisemitism.
"we know your science better than you know your science" I laugh when I hear folks who believe this. I'm a former Freemason. I did for a bit historical lectures and studied the history of the craft. I watch videos on the DEEP secrets of Masons by women and/or non-masons and 100% of the time I laugh. Because 99% of the time they supposedly have secrets NO mason has, YET they get all the basics completely wrong. So, its like someone saying they know advanced algebra and trigonometry, but have no clue how to add or subject, and go around saying 2+2=17 and think they're right. So, what happens is the algebra they are discussing is pure jibberish. And, I find most of the time these folks are also liberals.
@Proletarius87 Except it is not. Evolution as a theory is strictly descriptive, not prescriptive, for starters. Also, the integration of information (and its potential connection to consciousness emergence and arguably even personhood) is higher within an individual nervous system than between individuals. So collectivism here has a misplaced focus, at least from this outlook, were they just got stuck with some infantile extrapolation between cells, organs and organisms.
Read interview with an alien, we're prisoners of the old empire, we die and come back without our memories. Over and over again, but the mechanism is breaking down. There are people alive that shouldn't be, evil lives with us.
I lost a lot of respect for your completely shallow take on true Gnosticism. I am as anti Marxist as they come, but it feels like you’re categorizing very broadly. Maybe check out the Nag Hammadi, and the words of Christ that were removed by those looking to control the masses. I know you mean well, but you missed this mark by miles.
The holy Kaballion says that all truths are really only half truths....Which of course means that the saying is actually 1/4 true...which can then only be 1/8 of the original truth which then must again be reduced by exactly 50% which is actually 25%. We're so damn smart aren't we?
Everyone knows hanuman the monkey king is the only true God and I feel so bad for you that you are living in sin like that. I will pray for you. Btw: there is still time to be saved. Hanuman is a mighty yet just god and you must only beg for forgiveness. It helps if you can find a Hanuman shrine but you can make one at home. I just dont want you to be tortured by monkeys for all of eternity.
To say that Kant was part of this tradition is nonsense. He talks about the dialectical illusion of theosophy in the teleological part of his third Critique. The first Critique is against materialism, the very thing they need for gnosticism. Chiliasm is often mentioned in "Religion Within The Bounds.." I suppose that Kant has a bad reputation from people who read secondary works. There are two people and one idea that gnostics hate (1) Christ (2) Kant and the Trinity. Kant is so much better than other philosophers - it's like comparing a 3 year old with a golf club to Tiger Woods. But Kant is difficult and time-consuming. Kant is misread in "The End Of All Things". It's not a gnostic essay. His ideas on end times are connected directly to pure practical reason and not anything immanent. He describes a natural evolution that would occur as a result of following the moral law, not getting a bunch of nut cases to force it - he uses the law merchant as an example of this. It seems the whole intellectual world avoids Kant like a Leper. No one wants to get too close to the truth in things. Every time a public intellectual opens his mouth on Kant, he is going to be wrong.
Gnosticism is just the collective term for non canonical Christian sects that were deemed heretical by the establishment. Is James arguing that you must follow the establishment religion to be anti Marxist? I don't see the connection between gnostic religions and Marxism, it's too general of a comparison and too much of an endorsement of Christian doctrine as some kind of base truth. You can hold alternative spiritual views and also not be a Marxist.
He never implied you cannot hold other spiritual beliefs and not be a marxist. Also, where did he say that you must follow "the stablishment religion"? Can you give a timestamp?
JL describes this better in another video, but there are, he says, 4 types of gnosticism, and the form which latched onto Christianity is just a part of the gnostic "genus," as he explains in a biological analogy.
"Gnosticism is just the collective term for non canonical Christian sects that were deemed heretical by the establishment. " This is a lie. Read Against Heresies (Adversus Haereses) By Saint Irenaeus Of Smyrna, which was written when the "establishment" was pagan, and Christianity was illegal. The "establishment" position after Christianity was legal was called Arianism -- that was the position supported by the Imperial Court of Constantinople, by the rich and powerful. The orthodox position is and was the beliefs of the apostles, the disciples, the Church Fathers, and the vast majority who were vastly oppressed. Gnosticism was not "deemed" heretical. It was and is an inversion and corruption of the basic teachings of Christianity since the first days. Gnosticism is a specific term with a specific meaning, referring to the First Century heretics Valentinian, Simon the Magician, and so on, and later of the Cathars of Spain. The same philosophy appears in later writings, theosophy, scientology, hermeticism. The intellectual heritage of Fiche, hence Hegel, hence Marx, hence Cultural Marxism, is a matter is historical fact. Lindsay is using the term in its broader meaning, to mean both technical Gnostics and those who copy the essential features, of pretending special knowledge of secret truths justifying rebellion against all establishment, as Marx.
There is an irrational jump from level 7 to level 8. Levels 1-7 are all defined precisely by actions. Level 8 is a state of "enlightenment," in which activity has no part and all is pure perception. How much more explicitly cultish could this get? Step 9: You spontaneously start to fly around in the air? This is a charlatan's trick, offering the fast and easy way to happiness to lazy minded suckers. The question never arises as to whether any views held by anyone are ever knowingly false and in bad faith, in which case they could simply game you if they knew you were fully committed to a good faith compromise under all conceivable circumstances. All they would have to do is offer an unyielding antiithetical position to you out of pure hate, just to force you to meet them half way. Then repeat the process until you were 75% of the way, and so on. This would be especially ironic, since they wouldn't believe anything they're saying and would only want to force you to do the despicable, in the name of some misguided "love." Like at the Ministry of Love in Orwell's, "1984."
This is not even a real video. At least not in any true sense. You took the word most closely associated with the devil, but that isn’t “The Devil” and put it directly beside the word “Gnostic”, because you felt like this one’s a real battle. This one right here, this one’s important right? Because your schizophrenic Yahweh told you it is, and you’re scared. You’re scared of eternity in hell, and the unknown. And because of this, you gave up on the true meanings of words a long time ago. Satisfied to see the contrasting imperfections in low level information and convince yourself their is nothing there.. gotta do it. You’ve got enough multisyllabic words in there to believe in your own faith, as a certain degree of intellectualism is required for you, which you battle with due to one very obvious and usually ignored reason, the problem most thinking Christians can feel under the surface. That is, if modern Christianity is forceful enough to defeat the evil idiocracy. It’s good, it’s beautiful, it’s passionate and it’s the truth but does it defeat them? Well, it doesn’t. Modern Christianity is completely impotent, and Christians know it, even if only in the back of your mind. Beat woke Marxism tho? I’m on board. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. All I can suggest for you is to understand the world is complex. Gnosticism is complex. You may snag a few of those like you, but people who really want the truth will ultimately be lead to Plato and to Gnosticism. Will it keep them? Who knows. Maybe it’s not the end of the road. That said, I stopped listening after 5 minutes. I’m on board with you wanting to end woke Marxism tho, even if u are R3T4DED kekekeke
>stopped listening after 4 minutes Then why would anyone consider your contribution valuable as a response to this video and not just you defending your sacred cow. PD: James Lindsay is an atheist btw.
It is the result of gnostic subversion, although "gnostic" might be a term that is too broad. Just like if orthodox marxists tried to subvert a set of institutions (probably related to free markets, but not exclusively), they would try to make them replicate the "contradictions" and other characteristics they claim or predict within their worldview in order to justify the ideologically motivated "solution" they provide.
All I understood from dignity index is how a person perceive others around him, not how he should act. They're steps towards empathy. Again, what this all have in common with gnostics? It isn't conspiracy that all power structures give simple answers to satisfy herd, we aren't born yesterday. Gnosis teach us limited trust to existing order, and to experience if everything we are said is true, contrary to communism, where you must comply, rather than be the best version of ourselves. All this video looks like some christian said: "i don't like communism and i don't like gnosticism. So communism is like gnosticism." It's utter BS.
@@flowerpt Good question, Bill. The view is that the human body is a prison for the soul. It is not a punishment but the condition of bondage. However, where does the soul go when the body dies? Until gnosis is given, there is no way to be sure. Gnosis is granted by God, not attained by secret rituals, though we might strive and hope.
This sounds like a rabid Communist who rattled the hornet's nest frantically trying to get ahead of the pendulum swing and protect themselves from backlash.
It is not just a word. It points towards something outside of mere linguistic phenomena. Also, since this approach is supposed to recruit people, it makes sense for them to try to convince you of compromising with a broad notion of evil without outright saying it (and even disguising it as a defense of "human dignity).
@AstroSquid If dignity is inherent, nobody can take it away. Also, allow? What do you mean exactly. I think narcissism and evil overlap a lot, at least regarding behavior and some of the beliefs behind them, but are not necessarily the same.
@@sebastiansirvas1530 Well the word evil, is a word to describe a behavior, but it's not clearly defined.. There's all sorts of lore around that word, it's and ancient word.. It evokes feelings of fear, of demons and devils. Modern psychology does a lot to explain behavior, it has it's own vocabulary.. So to use the word evil it to appeal to a certain group of people.. To me the bad behavior isn't clearly defined and the word evokes tribalist hate. For example, I believe people behave tribalisticly because it's a biological instinct. Tribalism is what religions and demagogues use to evoke the hate of one group over the other group. A person will do "evil" things because they believe in their "tribe". So talking about that behavior would be something more helpful than the word evil. Talking about tribal instincts would be better than using the word evil... I don't consider that work intellectual or helpful by any means. Tribalistic hate is not evil, evil is a word that forces people to pick a side and become tribal martyrs.
Some fan of Hegel, a Jason Barton, came to Hegel's defense because accusing Hegel of gnosticism or hermeticism is just intolerable. How ideologically possessed do you have to be to defend against the truth?
This video almost makes me fully disagree. If you life in a country with high censorship/propaganda and you show someone some "forbidden" media, does that make you a gnostic? I don't think so. Abstracting things too much does not help.
“What is wrong with our civilization can be said in one word-- unreality. We are in danger of forgetting all facts, good and bad, in a haze of high-minded phraseology.”
-GK Chesterton
Number 8: Give up all autonomous discernment and accept everything. Great podcast, James. As always, thank you for illuminating these things for us.
Literally "fiber into mob mentality"
@@gwho you are the mob mentality.
I’ve known two people who were deeply involved in cults, and everything Lindsay says here is true. The cult will promise esoteric, hidden knowledge and they will have a hierarchical structure. This all appeals to the inductee’s ego. The inductee will want acceptance, hidden secret knowledge, and the ability to work up the hierarchy by gaining spiritual merit badges, which makes them feel superior to newbies and the general public. They are also taught to fear and feel contempt for normal people, which of course helps to preserve the cult by insulating members from challenges to the doctrine.
So basically a church
@@Mooxieclangunfortunately so in many cases. But the true message of Jesus Christ is the antithesis of this. Jesus didn’t hide truth, he offered it freely to anyone. There’s no initiation or gatekeeping.. he offered himself as the ultimate sacrifice to allow us.. anyone.. the amazing privilege of entering into a relationship with the REAL God of the universe. All other religions and cults require you to do some kind of work for salvation. Christianity is the only one that offers eternal acceptance at the beginning of the journey.. the faith that Jesus talks about has nothing to do with gnosis. (As much as the gnostics would try to say otherwise)
Woah you know only two leftists? I envy you lol
"Is it possible to learn this power?"
"Not from a Jedi."
The dark side of liberalism is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
My pet theory is that this is the product of generations of teachers who are not particularly bright or competent, and rely on trickery, obfuscation, and indirect belittling of students to assert their tenuous authority. The best teachers I know don't use trick questions and can admit when they're wrong.
One of the first things I learned in college was the humility to accept my own fundamental ignorance and admit when I'm wrong. Unfortunately, I seem to have been a statistical outlier.
"'I can see myself in every human being.' Oh! Namaste!" I fucking died😂
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Yeah, that seems Gnostic as Hell. Cynical, self-serving bastardization of the microcosm-macrocosm dichotomy.
Reminds me of the yard sign: “No matter who you are, no matter what color your skin, no matter what you believe, we are glad you are our neighbor.” Really? What if I believe that children should be sexualized as early as possible and be made to choose their gender? What if I believe that blacks are by nature inferior? Or, what if I am part of the Charles Manson cult? The sign states a basic truth in skin color as being irrelevant to being a good neighbor. No one would object to that. But it is not a basic truth that who you are or what you believe is irrelevant. The sign is pure wokism and virtue signaling.
Well said. The people that have that sign, saying science is real, are the same people who deny the science that a person's sex isn't changeable.
You're already woke if you reduce race to skin color. It's just as subversive as saying men can get pregnant.
"Skin color" isn't the reason people avoid living next to certain groups. Neither is it the reason for CRT (Critical _Race_ Theory) or those shouting "Eradicate Whiteness".
Even MLK said to judge by the content of one's character. Specifically in preference to judging based on the color of skin, but he still said to judge character in that statement.
Ikr, what if the neighbor believes all property should be shared, and walks in and takes the TV to pawn?
Literal cultic happy talk.
"ugh that's such a simplistic understanding..." Is the modern gnostic hook
@@treesurgeon2441 It's not that nuanced thinking is bad, it's the attempt to deny the existence of evil or truth that is bad. Good and Evil are such simplistic ways of thinking, so they say.
@@gameguy8101 ok but if what they are saying applies to commies then it applies to n@zis. Do you seriously think they are saying you have to love and accept n@zi or do you think they wrote it cuz it sounds good and will garner support? It's called occams razor and you should use it sometime.
@@treesurgeon2441 What's the difference between thinking and nuanced thinking?
@@gameguy8101Lyndsay is a self-professed Agnostic who has no moral authority to discuss matters such as good and evil objectively.
@jaxjax2011 He's commenting on how absurd/hysterical Lyndsay sounds to those coming from a religious background.
James Lyndsay acts as if all secret knowledge must be obvious to surface level analysis. If this was the case, it wouldn't be SECRET KNOWLEDGE.
Clearly, Lyndsay is frustrated by being a spiritually weak agnostic/atheist who simply cannot grasp basic tenets of occult knowledge. So, he goes around suggesting "as below so above" has something to do with political philosophy. He's desperately grasping at straws because he lacks foundational knowledge about the subject matter itself.
I ran into a subtle level 5 ploy today from a Diversity and Inclusion executive. One of her main points in her talk was "You may be right, but that doesn't mean I'm wrong." Well, it is true that the world is complicated and seemingly competing things can be true at the same time. Seems pro-nuance. It is also, however, a statement that can be used as a very convenient back door to any debate you lose- "well you may be right about that, but my opinion can still be valid." No, if someone is right about something factual and objective, your opinion is not valid and you are not right just because you hypothetically see the complexity of the world. That's just a way to avoid being accountable to the truth and going through the pain of finding out you're wrong and correcting yourself and reexamining your related views. She also defined insight with the cartoon graphic of people disagreeing over what is a 6 or a 9 based on their point of view... if your view of the epitome of insight is realizing that all/most things are fundamentally ambiguous and the truth is just perspective and opinion, I don't think you have much insight into life...
It's the old trick of relativism.
Use the flaw in the good to deny its objective superiority.
Then demand equal treatment for inferior products.
I think this perfectly sums up modern art museums and a lot of politics.
"Your opinion is 99% correct. MY opinion is 1% correct. So our opinions are both not perfect. So their value is equal."
and then later:
"We established the value of our opinions is equal. So give me an equal share 50% of the resources I want."
James when you said "Oh, namaste" I lost my coffee!
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@@miroirs-jumeaux thanks
I don't dare drink coffee when I'm listening to a new James video, his humor is wonderfully unpredictable 😅
Regarding the "dignity" thing: there are two approaches to doing politics - Scott Alexander called them "mistake theory" and "conflict theory".
"Mistake theory" assumes that other people argue in good faith, and if there's a disagreement, it's possible that one side is just mistaken, and we need to figure out what the facts are, understand where the disagreement comes from, come to a compromise, change your own opinion, or convince the other side.
"Conflict theory" assumes that people you disagree with are basically your enemy, discussion is pointless, and you just do what it takes to defeat them.
And ideally, everyone would play the "mistake theory" game, and we would cooperate to find actual solutions to actual problems, and the "losing" side could at least take comfort in knowing that the opponent is not screwing them over intentionally.
But if someone is actually (overtly or covertly) playing the "conflict theory" game, it's kind of pointless to play "mistake theory" with them. Discussions will at best convince fence-sitters, but are more likely to harden the conflict lines. Invitations from conflict players to be understanding and willing to compromise are invitations to unilaterally disarm - this is the point that James is making.
If everyone is playing "conflict theory", you get something like US politics, or politics in the Middle East. Two (or more) sides where everyone would rather chop off their arm than cooperate with the other side to find a solution that works for everyone.
So basically the problem is to find the people on all sides who are willing to engage in good faith, get them into power, and make sure they are not swayed by people on their side who would rather play conflict politics.
Successful EXCLUSION of bad-faith (or conflict theory) actors is what enables trust and cooperation.
Blind INCLUSION prevents this correction and leads us right into neverending conflicts.
Other roadblocks to cooperation:
DIVERSITY of values.
EQUITY in untrustworthy hands.
I miss being able to go through life operating on "mistake theory." Led to some stimulating discussions, even when I was proven wrong.
I recently had a thought about disgust. Disgust sensitivity has an inverse relationship to intelligence. That means that finding things intrinsically disgusting is as good a survival strategy as being smart. My armour is contempt, my shield is disgust
if your weapon becomes obstinance you would really be on to something.
@@qlippoth13 the quote continues "my sword is hatred." An even stronger injunction
@@owenchubb5449Your logic also dictates that being smart serves just as well as being disgusted. If you're going to invoke disgust as the preferable option to wanton intelligence, then I think it's only fair to invoke intelligence as the preferable option to wanton disgust. Perhaps we were endowed with both for some reason...
And my sword is intellect, to cut through that which I find disgusting and contemptuous.
@@HiddenOcelot Intellect downstream of disgust is necessarily rationalization.
EDIT: What you've just achieved is a dialectical synthesis.
Thank you James. because you manage to put into words what people see and think. Thank you, because you make this crazy world more understandable
The point about "until you do something that comprises you" in order to lock you into evil / the cult hits home. I think about all those parents who compromised themselves by mutilating their children in pursuit of the trans lie. Or mother's who aborted their children. They will defend their decision until they die - they are locked into the cult. Forever in hell.
Great articulation of what's going on right under our collective noses.
*collective gnoses*
I’m know bad joke
He doesn't talk about the groups that are torturing humanity since atleast 400 years.
@@mariopenulli1395 More like thousands of years. He's just focusing on the latest incarnation.
@@mariopenulli1395who are the groups ??
@@mariopenulli1395 which group ?
Compromising with evil is still evil and evil wins.
Mercy has to be justified. Unjustified mercy is itself an evil act. The enemy is attempting to get you to show it unjustified mercy.
The temptation is the occult. The hidden knowledge or wisdom. James doesn't use that word much, seeming to prefer esoteric and such. But the occult wisdom is the temptation for the spiritual "get rich quick scheme" they offer.
My sister was just watching a clip of a gender confused young woman.
Apparently she overheard two other women voicing opinions she didn't like. So it's off to TikTok to cry and moan: "I'm not a disease! *I have the right to exist!"*
Yes..and those women she spoke of also *have the right to say things that you don't agree with.*
A little unrelated, but it makes me appreciate our constitution, which seems to be the ward against this gnostic mumbo jumbo. Hence why Gnostics/Communists et al. Are so desperate to infect it or tear it down.
I can empathize, but she's mistaking one PART of who she is, for ALL of who she is. I'm on the autism spectrum, but I'm not Autism. When I was obese, I wasn't Obesity. People need to stop mistaking one single facet of their physical or psychological identity as their WHOLE identity. 🤷🏾♀️
@@zxyatiywariii8 This seems different. If someone told you you shouldn't exist because you are autistic, what would you react with? I am also autistic, and I know I would be very upset if anyone told me this.
That's precisely because autism isn't everything about me, and so I shouldn't be judged by this condition
If you overheard people saying you shouldn't exist or that you should just go away and die would you accept that? If a lunatic on the streets started shouting out around the neighbourhood that black people should all be executed should he be allowed to do so for free speech? And this seems to conflict with the conservatives who say that certain books should be banned from schools, or as a more general thing that people lower than a certain age cannot vote despite them being old enough to physically go and vote?
I see an army of strawmen here. Do you even know a conservative or just caricatures?
Certain books may not be appropriate for all ages, especially without commentary. You wouldn't put Mein Kampf into a middle school library. That's not the same as banning a book for everyone.
If people tell you individually to go die, you can be upset. But if people say things like "Emo kids are so annoying" and you are an emo kid, just deal with it. Not everyone has to like you and that goes doubly for trendy new ways of self expression.
Voting is more complex than walking there and making a cross. Same as how reading is more complex than just holding a book in your hands.
Kids are inexperienced and irresponsible. If you wouldn't trust a kid enough to lend them your car, you shouldn't trust them enough to wield political power in your country.
Also, kids are too easy to manipulate with things that sound fair and logical, but work out terribly in real life because of missing context.
So, just like your post basically...
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Damn straight.
You’re doing gods work. Bless you man.
Level 6: just the tip
Level 7: just one full pump
Level 8: as if I would ever pull out
Thank you for sharing this. I would love to hear more about the temptation aspect of Gnosticism. I have recently discovered an element of myself that wants to believe their lies and have been searching for truth through Christianity. However, there must be a more objective way to outline the temptation than merely the symbol of the snake.
I’m sorry but this was so far off the mark of what Gnosticism is conveying. Follow your heart and your meditations. God speaks to us all individually. Let no man define it for you.
@@Son_Of_Conan I agree but this guy is agitated about something. That something being gnostisism. I see where you are coming from and I respect it. However gnostisism reaches into the hearts of every man and we all need an objective means of analyzing this phenomenon if we ever wish to break free from it in this day and age. God bless you.
Especially considering that he says we must stand with truth(hard agree) yet the serpent was the one who was the honest one(despite whatever motives he had) in the myth.
@@Son_Of_ConanI've always gotten the sense that his understanding of these issue is....a stretch let's say. 😂😂 where should I go to get good info about the subject? Besides internally as you mention
@@glowindark64 I would check out the Nag Hammadi texts themselves, and the scholars who have done the most unbiased research. People presenting not outlandish interpretations (there are some, hence some validity to James’ points here) of what those scriptures say. From what I have come to learn, Christ came to be a literal example, truly the son of God, but also an attainable mindset to be striven for. Also, the creation myth is very different, and there are different versions of Gnosticism as well. I find Sethian Gnosticism to be the most intriguing, personally.
I feel the most hurtful lie is that forgiveness and redemption aren't possible or something not needed.
Oftentimes the instruments of darkness tell us truths , win us with honest trifles ..only to betray us in deepest consequence. - Macbeth
Wow, that's deep!
@@spambot_gpt7 no it's Shakespeare 😂
@@christophermarcone5504 Don't shake beer!
very important episode!
Hey Dr. Lindsay, I believe I have been raised into a dialectical worldview, if you say trying to represent both sides of a topic and more or less seeking compromise or synchronistic truths pulled from both sides,, or more often than not just making attempts at counterfactuals are all examples of engaging in dialectical thought processes.
Could you do a video on being able to identify when one is thinking dialectically, if/when it may be appropriate and ways to structure thinking that doesn't use or combats the dialectic approach. Thanks.
Hey James I have always found the story of Prometheus and Lucifer to put in mythological terms the figure of the Gnostic character. What do y’all think?
True
I agree with the allure of secret knowledge capturing people. The initiation maybe something in a Secret societys but isn't required in Gnostic movements.
It wasnt even about externallising anything.
It was about knowing yourself.
The later points are then seen by yourself as you have reviewed and reflected on your own behaviour and thus see some of the ego and motives in others.
But I can see how in certain groups this has been usurped and could be miss used.
Better, higher knowledge is Opium to intellectuals.
Thank you for this it is very important. The question I have is why are all the Gnostics I know anti woke? To give one example Christopher Knowles who runs a blog called Secret Sun describes himself as a synchro mystic,yet he mainly uses a gnostic vocabulary and talks on a lot of gnostic podcasts. These people all identify as anarchists and libertarians politically and say a lot of the things you say . Maybe they are neo gnostic idk. Anyway thanks for what you do. Btw I am not gnostic but I have toyed with some of the ideas,maybe to my detriment. Thanks again for these videos.
I think it’s because Gnosticism has two paths. First you realize that the world you think you live in is largely controlled by elite hands: the archons. Your first option is to join the archons and continue construsting the world of the unenlightened. This is what the woke academics, and media personalities and celebrities do. They become the policies of words and ideas, and make sure everyone constructs and understands the world the way they do. The second option is to pull against the archons. This is what James does. To expose the lies of the archons to the people, so that ordinary people can be disenchanted and see theough the matrix of the archons. This path also centers on the seek ‘reality’, or the truth behind all this, that which the archons wish to conceal.
Both derive from a gnostic concept in my opinion.
Nah they are woke.
James Lindsay is inexplicably railing against an almost imaginary enemy - most of what is imagined being a claimed alignment between Gnosticism and far left ideology. It perhaps speaks more of fears surrounding the vulnerability of Christian faith (perhaps including his own?) than any danger inherent in Gnosticism. Gnosticism, as its name suggests, isn’t really a belief system, so has no inherent need to seduce or convert anyone. A Gnostic can be annoying or smug, but then so can anyone.
Because James doesnt know what hes talking about and is lumping in an entire set of ideas into a communist frame. If someone were to start pointing out all the Jewish influences in communism he'd sperg out even though hes making the exact same blanket statement about Gnostics.
Thank you so much
Thanks for the head's up.
Interesting discussion. Thanks for this James.
James - Please write a book about the fact that Wokeism is a religion. I was doing some research into the Manichaean religion and saw many similarities...
@@MoonshineH
None of your posts on this video make sense.
I also think we are imprisoned inside a reality that can be very harsh and nasty, in a meat-prison that will fail us in the end. (ask anyone with chronic, painful conditions for instance).
But the way out of that is actually dealing with reality to find solutions to problems, the electrical grid and penicillin are two easy examples. To attempt to dream your way out through some wonky theoretical mumbo-jumbo is just the saddest, most pathetic cope ever.
I think seeing human progression via technological development is another part of the dream cult. Technology has made life very easy to people, but despite that they are weaker and more miserable than ever. The people need higher connection to truth than just 'science.' In trying to remove God and Christian philosophy, something usurping and evil took its place. Be careful.
They run the policies that drive PHARMA and the food industry, keeping people sick ~ meat-prison well describes it...
Satan teaches them how to be expert liars, "the father of the lie", they are "promised freedom but become slaves to their passions" as they have no morals. Christ is catching up with them through the 'hidden manna'.
Yes, well said. I also have chronic pain, and my body is definitely a meat-prison, but someday there may be better treatments for people like me, and this can only happen through rigorous scientific research. Even now, I'm better off than someone with my condition would have been in the nineteenth century, solely due to medical progress in SCIENCE, not ideology.
@@zxyatiywariii8With Chronic Pain Syndrome l was also better off due to science but then two yrs ago the move to get people off of pain medication went full throttle. So even though my med wasn’t one of the strong troublesome ones, it was still targeted, so my medication went away. I had never misused it, never used more than l should, was faithful with followup, but no, illegals can bring the nasty fent in and kill people with it and that’s just ok but for the law abiding citizens who needs pain control, forget it! This happened after my husband died so then there was deep grief combined with debilitating pain. So, yep, sometimes life really sucks, but l got through the worst of the grief and lve become accustomed to functioning painfully. I’m not nearly as productive and lm sure not as happy but l have adjusted. That’s what we people do, we adjust!
Anyway, sorry to hear about your pain situation and hope you have benefited from some good kind of resolution that keeps you going. Many blessings!
@@zxyatiywariii8But the end result of your proposition is the same. And in fact, the method is the same too.
You say that your life is "better thanks to science, not ideology", failing to realize that, in fact, the science that made your life better was ideological in nature. Science does not cure disease, in the same way guns do not shoot people. A person used the scientific process to cure a disease, because their ideology told them it was good to do that. Without the ideology, there is no cure.
This type of gnosticism is like Ingsoc promising secret higher level party information.
Does anyone know if James Lindsay has done a talk with Douglas Murray? I was thinking that would be a great combination, but can’t find any such interview in my web search.
Thanks for this. I’m so sick of the communist bs.
Nice one, these bullets are up a caliber 💪
I think you've stirred up the Rosecrucians and the Templars.
Might be your best video.
Good music at beginning!
Level 1: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them.
Level 2: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them.
Level 3: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them.
Level 4: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them.
Level 5: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them.
Level 6: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them.
Level 7: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them.
Level 8: It's easier to behead communists than to argue with them.
Yeaup, that's what it is! 👍
The woke movement profits greatly from many normies' unwillingness to set boundaries. Of course, if you meet a stranger, you shouldn't assume he's bad and you should engage in good faith. But once he's shown you over and over he can't be trusted, then you should stop trusting him and stop engaging in good faith. That latter part often gets lost. Discernment. Assume people are good? Yes. But you also need to drop that assumption once you know better.
James NEVER MISSES! Love ya brother.
It seems to me that any critical analysis of Gnosticism in its current form would need to analyze modern thinkers/proponents. In my very limited research so far, I'd say Nietzsche and certainly Jung are two influential minds that have Gnostic elements, Jung's early work outright embraced Gnostic principles. The current iteration is more of a psychology than a religion, and that is why I think it has a growing appeal. It is individualist, personal, and demands quiet introspection. Gnosticism doesn't come to you in the form of a cult leader enticing spiritual enlightenment, it comes to you in the dark of night, after a vivid dream that leaves you wondering "what was that?"
Aye the hermeneutic temptation. Dang why didn't I think of using that?! Btw Gnostic temptation definitely affected me growing up in church, just didn't know it!
I don't know why Americans can't tell liberalism from Marxism.
It isn’t that we can’t tell, it’s that we can recognize the terrible smell of millions of starving & dead. One is a subset of the other, now that our words have been problematized & queered. I’ve met a few true Scotsmen in my day as well-Sláinte mhath!
@@UBERLADEN69 Dude, we know the results of the application of Marxism were millions dead. That doesn't mean that Marxism and liberalism are the same concepts. Nor do I think that many of these extreme liberals would identify as Marxists. So why confuse the concepts for right-wing rhetorical reasons? At best it is shoddy thinking, at worst, basic confusion. In either case, it's a misuse of language.
@@grantbartley483exactly. "Tyranny is the deliberate removal of nuance" and that's exactly what's james is doing. Disgusting and ironic.i apologize for my fellow Americans and their ignorance.
@@glowindark64 Thanks, I've never heard that quote before, Tyranny or other authoritarianism certainly seems to try to channel all thinking into the official line, and that involves the supression of nuance. But that is international, and it's evidently happening on all sides. So I'd like to apologise for the stupidity of humanity!
I truly don't see what's wrong with this, breaking these rules is also ineffective. As long as it's within the framework of democracy which it seems very clear about.
The problem is our distorted "Left v Right" framing, which allows communists to claim the same category as democrats. So no these rules don't apply to anti-american ideologies
Persona fan here. Can we call the Gnostics dedicants to Yaldabaoth?
Yes lmao
Not really, the bad guys don't have the 'gnowledge' of the demiurge, but the protagonists gain it. Unless you play P5R, then the bad guy definitely has gnosis and you beat his ass too.
Considering yaldabaoth means child of the void it would be more accurate to call shaivites dedicants to yaldabaoth.
No, Japanese videogames, and especially Persona 5, ARE gnostic. The nice and super moral kind, though, like, say, Cathars.
%1000!
Well, everybody has a right to be heard, but few are worth listening to.
I'd say, everybody has a right to speak. Everybody also has a right to listen to someone, or to listen to someone else, because no one has time to listen to everyone.
@@zxyatiywariii8 So if someone were to run onto the streets shouting at the top of their lungs that all black people should be executed should everyone just ignore that because they don't care to listen?
Oh the powers that be. We are all way more programmable than we think or would even believe in many different ways.
JL at it again!
It’s all very well to say ‘we don’t compromise with false, we don’t compromise with evil’ but the problem is that different people disagree on what is false and what is evil. You are seen as false an evil by many. And you see many as false and evil. …. There no singular probable correct set of facts or moral righteousness. That’s cult speak to say there is.
Technical note, there are semi-regular very high-pitched clicking sounds or glitches in the audio, noticed them from around 8 minutes in.
Me too, I came down to the comments to see if anyone else noticed this.
I don’t have a problem with the index conceptually but I can see how it could be used in dangerous ways. Seeing the dignity in every person is basically the Christian idea that all are made in the image of God. But that doesn’t make everyone’s viewpoint equally valid. Being able to truly understand the view of the other side is important, but that doesn’t mean the other side is equally valid.
Compromising with Evil/False? -> Consensus Theory of truth by Habermas -> The scientific consensus
Learning that the Creator is an evil malevolent force is what leads on to seek gnosis.
Satanic lie in a candy coated dopamine hit
Are you gnostic?
If that is what you believe, then you are well on the way to being a Cathar, a human extinction cult.
Idiotic.
I’m reminded of Beyond Good and Evil. Was Nietzsche a Gnostic?
Hard to say. However in the introduction to Beyond Good and Evil Christopher Janaway stated "Nietzsche's philosophy of the 'will to power' might fuel success, yet also be dangerous if in the wrong hands." Also, at the end he admits to viewing his thoughts as "Evil".
@@treesurgeon2441 Not true. Just those who buy their beliefs (which are easy to buy). Are you a gnostic, perhaps, without even knowing it?
Ever heard of Nietzschean Zionism?
@@qlippoth13 I have not.Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
@@SamuelVahle Should you venture down this rabbit hole be sure to also learn about Vanguardism and Bundism. Learning why it is an insult to call someone a Bundist today can be very revealing.
Part 1 of this video sounded like how Darth Vader came about. Joining the dark side that "they" were trying to keep from him. Part 2 of the video about the dignity index is hilarious- they would never have all of that apply to Trump supporters!
This is represented by Anakin and his relationship with the Emperor in Star Wars.
I love when one cult calls another group a cult...
A bit like watching a snake eating it's own tail isn't it?
Reminds me of Democrats
This episode came across as an interned patient appropriately reminding me to take my meds, while hilariously missing the irony
I like how gnostics have congregated around James Lindsay's podcasts to complain about his speech. It has a certain irony to it. He makes pretty straightforward and legible points, and he approaches any implications of greater meanings or impositions behind these topics with a usually humble and direct attitude. You could only ever construe all this as being solipcism if you had preconceived notions about the esoteric landscape and teleological trajectory of the current marketplace of ideas... which would make you a gnostic.
I'm coming at it from the pov of depth psychology, the use of 'gnostic' here appearing to represent an archetypal pattern within the collective psyche that's expressed over and over in human affairs.
Othering these 'gnostics' & loading that term in an us vs them dichotomy is certainly a mistake. The hypocrisy in our own applying of critical theory should be lost on no one, and to become a polarity in that archetypal pattern or tendency is to become unconscious & irrelevant.
The difference between religion and gnosticism are the words of man placed into the mouth of god and the observations of man placed in the minds of men against the idea of god. Still, we live in a world where we must consume and none are beyond suffering, a world were Catholics committed genocide against Cathars. Once again the good doctor eloquently describes the stitching of the hand while neglecting any mention the wound. Oh if only such an observation could be made by the good doctor of events which took place in AGTR-5 and how the marginalization of undesired information operates in our minds as an interplay of mental defense mechanism and most importantly what group of gnostics are responsible for placing that mechanism there. Kudos doc, you have a gift but dare you use it to pronounce the name of those responsible. Please contemplate that the people ruining the world all have names and addresses.
Should I warn people that a "Qlippoth" or husk is a cabalistic aka gnostic word for an empty shell or husk filled with a foreign spirit, i.e. a demon-puppet? For that is what you present yourself to be, sir.
The "genocide" was an insurrection, not a genocide, and it was started by the Cathars, not the Catholics, who attacked nobles and their families, burned churches, killed women and children, and provoked a crusade. History was kind, for once, and the Cathars were wiped out. They preached self-castration to free oneself from one's sex, eerily similar to modern Critical Gender Theory.
@@johnwright1447 Should I warn people that John is a jewish name? I see, accuse your enemy of that which you are guilty. I suppose you can cite credible and verifiable source for your claims of an inverse inquisition by the Chathars against the Catholics, or do you mean to say that Guillaume Belibaste was somehow Catholic. Interesting view you seem have on the subject.
Interesting. 6 minutes in, and it occurs to me that the description applies equally as well to the QAnon phenomenon as to woke Marxism. Two groups who consider each other to be the opposite, both attracted by the same Gnostic temptation.
That's true. They lure you in with knowledge they claim to have, then have you compromise on what you believe (Like say, taking an oath), and thus trap you into their belief system.
@@AnnikaCoyucoCutecats how in the fuck would saying an oath trap you?
QAnon is an FBI LARP to distract people, provoke actual crazies into doing their dirty work for them, and preemptively discredit legitimate critics.
Gnostic movies include:
The Matrix, The Shawshank Redemption, The NeverEnding Story, Flash Gordon, The Wizard of Oz.
Don’t forget 2001, A space Odyssey
@@UBERLADEN69 I have never seen it :)
Anything is gnostic if you look long enough 😂😂😂
@@glowindark64 Gnostic gnocchi!
Love James. He introduced me to gnosticism. I agree that believing in Gnosticism is essentially the problem of modern academics. However I also think that from our perspective Gnosticism holds true. The academics who withhold information and create a false world of language and constructions to keep people contained and controlled - they are the archons. We, those who try to not get caught up in their games , we are on the breakout journey to gnosis.
No the archon are the 7 lords of hell idiot. The demiurge is clearly Satan. Stop wasting time. Don't worry you will meet them on 2062.
Right off the hop you get it wrong.
Gnosis is not a belief. It is a specific form of knowledge.
Carl Jung was asked if he believed in God in a famous interview. His reply was that he had no need to believe it. He knew it directly.
Faith requires no evidence. Gnosis is the experience of evidence.
@@TobiasC-mg4zk Gnosticism is a belief system. Within Gnosticism and its variant traditions, they have the concept of 'gnosis' - which is what you are talking about.
love my bullets
Very respectfully, let me post here a slice off my recent video´s script. It´s pertinent:
This course is sure to be of interest to those interested in defeating the phenomenon known as socialism; the very real push towards universal slavery, terror, and death. A beast that goes by many names; communism, feminism, Gnosticism, Nihilism, the nauseating rainbow flood demanding you lobotomize, poison and castrate yourself, demanding you lie with every breath you take.
I myself prefer the label “Platonism”, as I understand Plato´s concept of a fallen, shadow world of bungled, imperfect shapes to be the true heart of the detestable movement. From that incoherent concept sprouts the entire idea of "Evil": the rootof socialism.
I have yet to hear ANY of the warriors that oppose the great socialist wave of our age talk about this. The closest someone gets to addressing the issue is James Lindsay. He accurately traces Marxism to the “idea of the world as a jail for the spirit” but he remains, I believe, willfully oblivious of the fact that the base idea of a “fallen world” a “prison reality” and a vision of men as victims and toys of the cosmos are present in most if not all of the monotheistic religions.
Monotheism, that is another fitting name for the foe you and I, together, shall banish from our hearts....
What is with everyone in the comments being unnecessarily verbose? So many daddy issue and people trying to sounds smart. Go touch grass
@@glowindark64 what is it about what I said that sounded stupid to you? As for how I speak/write, I´m making an effort to be precise. English isn´t my first language, but I make an effort. Do you speak another language? Do you read at all?
The difference may be the attitude.
"The world is a prison. I accept that. I have little influence. So I need to be a good person and do the little things I can to make it better. Also, maybe the next world could be better and I take some solace in that."
VS
"The world is a prison. I do not accept that. Everything and everyone is corrupt. So I need to do what I can to gain power and control the prison. Then I will break it. When the prison is gone, I will build a better world because I am a megalomaniac."
So, monotheism may be fine if it promotes acceptance of reality and some humility when trying to change it.
Denial if reality is how the woke mess starts.
Also, do you get the hype around Plato?
Wow, our perceptions are not perfect. Wow, cave analogy. Sooo deep.
It was really celebrated at school, but actually added nothing of value to out thinking.
You really need to read CS Lewis' Perelandra (From the Space Trilogy). Punch, don't argue with, the devil.
I don't even agree with number 5, some people's views are inherently violent. If you're going to make laws against advocating for violence, acts of terrorism, etc, then how is it any better when the opposition advocates for state-sanctioned violence against us?
Should tax protestors be kidnapped and caged? If yes, you're endorsing violence (or at least threats) against anyone and everyone. If no, why would anyone pay tax?
Wow that's sure a lot more complicated than my own theory, which is just that it's more like a 7th grade girl threatening to not invite her best friend to her birthday party unless she lets her borrow her cute white top sometimes.
Fucking exactly!! This guy needs to look up occams razor. Great example of motivated thinking here with undertones of antisemitism. Fucking gross
James doesnt even think out his conclusions. If this applies to commies it applies to n@zis too. Does he really think they want us to accept n@zism? Or maybe they are just saying a bunch of woke buzz words to sounds like good pp [VIRTUE SIGNALING]
@@glowindark64How is it antisemitic? Is this one of those things where you accuse something or someone of bigotry to gain control of it and/or reduce its influence? Timestamp the antisemitism.
James...when will you move into characterizing what you are doing as Metamodern? Metamodernism is beyond critical theory.
"we know your science better than you know your science" I laugh when I hear folks who believe this. I'm a former Freemason. I did for a bit historical lectures and studied the history of the craft. I watch videos on the DEEP secrets of Masons by women and/or non-masons and 100% of the time I laugh. Because 99% of the time they supposedly have secrets NO mason has, YET they get all the basics completely wrong. So, its like someone saying they know advanced algebra and trigonometry, but have no clue how to add or subject, and go around saying 2+2=17 and think they're right. So, what happens is the algebra they are discussing is pure jibberish. And, I find most of the time these folks are also liberals.
The Borgs, from Star Trek, are level 8 dignity people. I don't want to be a borg.
From evolutionary points every development that makes species survival easier is good. So why not?
@@Proletarius87 Watch!
@@didierfavre2356 What!?
@@Proletarius87 Read my post
@Proletarius87 Except it is not. Evolution as a theory is strictly descriptive, not prescriptive, for starters. Also, the integration of information (and its potential connection to consciousness emergence and arguably even personhood) is higher within an individual nervous system than between individuals. So collectivism here has a misplaced focus, at least from this outlook, were they just got stuck with some infantile extrapolation between cells, organs and organisms.
Read interview with an alien, we're prisoners of the old empire, we die and come back without our memories. Over and over again, but the mechanism is breaking down.
There are people alive that shouldn't be, evil lives with us.
Interview with an alien? What?
@@hydraph4843I think hes schizo
Bullshit. That's a movie plot or something you simpleton
What is the best retort to 'trans rights are human rights' and 'but i just want to exist'.
I lost a lot of respect for your completely shallow take on true Gnosticism. I am as anti Marxist as they come, but it feels like you’re categorizing very broadly. Maybe check out the Nag Hammadi, and the words of Christ that were removed by those looking to control the masses. I know you mean well, but you missed this mark by miles.
The holy Kaballion says that all truths are really only half truths....Which of course means that the saying is actually 1/4 true...which can then only be 1/8 of the original truth which then must again be reduced by exactly 50% which is actually 25%. We're so damn smart aren't we?
Too smart by half!
It's not a pendulum, it's a ratchet.
Please take the time to read the dignity index carefully on your own. Notice that they themselves are violating their own principals (read #1 and #2).
You can't be that....*sigh*. Only the last is prescriptive. It's not saying to do/emulate all of them at the same time. Jesus fucking christ
What is James waiting to embrace Christianity?
Maybe hes too clever to be convinced of an obvious lie?
Maybe because there is no evidence for it? Certainly not more than any other religion.
Everyone knows hanuman the monkey king is the only true God and I feel so bad for you that you are living in sin like that. I will pray for you. Btw: there is still time to be saved. Hanuman is a mighty yet just god and you must only beg for forgiveness. It helps if you can find a Hanuman shrine but you can make one at home. I just dont want you to be tortured by monkeys for all of eternity.
Have a blessed day
@@MoonshineHNot sire he is conservative, but he might be labeled as such for his defense of what is commonly called classical liberalism.
To say that Kant was part of this tradition is nonsense. He talks about the dialectical illusion of theosophy in the teleological part of his third Critique. The first Critique is against materialism, the very thing they need for gnosticism. Chiliasm is often mentioned in "Religion Within The Bounds.." I suppose that Kant has a bad reputation from people who read secondary works. There are two people and one idea that gnostics hate (1) Christ (2) Kant and the Trinity. Kant is so much better than other philosophers - it's like comparing a 3 year old with a golf club to Tiger Woods. But Kant is difficult and time-consuming. Kant is misread in "The End Of All Things". It's not a gnostic essay. His ideas on end times are connected directly to pure practical reason and not anything immanent. He describes a natural evolution that would occur as a result of following the moral law, not getting a bunch of nut cases to force it - he uses the law merchant as an example of this. It seems the whole intellectual world avoids Kant like a Leper. No one wants to get too close to the truth in things. Every time a public intellectual opens his mouth on Kant, he is going to be wrong.
Except you? 😂😂😂
@@anonymoid388 There are non public intellectuals who understand Kant well enough to explain it. See Allison. The gnostics hate Kant and Christ.
Gnosticism is just the collective term for non canonical Christian sects that were deemed heretical by the establishment.
Is James arguing that you must follow the establishment religion to be anti Marxist?
I don't see the connection between gnostic religions and Marxism, it's too general of a comparison and too much of an endorsement of Christian doctrine as some kind of base truth. You can hold alternative spiritual views and also not be a Marxist.
He never implied you cannot hold other spiritual beliefs and not be a marxist. Also, where did he say that you must follow "the stablishment religion"? Can you give a timestamp?
JL describes this better in another video, but there are, he says, 4 types of gnosticism, and the form which latched onto Christianity is just a part of the gnostic "genus," as he explains in a biological analogy.
"Gnosticism is just the collective term for non canonical Christian sects that were deemed heretical by the establishment. "
This is a lie. Read Against Heresies (Adversus Haereses) By Saint Irenaeus Of Smyrna, which was written when the "establishment" was pagan, and Christianity was illegal.
The "establishment" position after Christianity was legal was called Arianism -- that was the position supported by the Imperial Court of Constantinople, by the rich and powerful.
The orthodox position is and was the beliefs of the apostles, the disciples, the Church Fathers, and the vast majority who were vastly oppressed. Gnosticism was not "deemed" heretical. It was and is an inversion and corruption of the basic teachings of Christianity since the first days.
Gnosticism is a specific term with a specific meaning, referring to the First Century heretics Valentinian, Simon the Magician, and so on, and later of the Cathars of Spain.
The same philosophy appears in later writings, theosophy, scientology, hermeticism. The intellectual heritage of Fiche, hence Hegel, hence Marx, hence Cultural Marxism, is a matter is historical fact.
Lindsay is using the term in its broader meaning, to mean both technical Gnostics and those who copy the essential features, of pretending special knowledge of secret truths justifying rebellion against all establishment, as Marx.
How do we prepare for 2030/2050?
There is an irrational jump from level 7 to level 8. Levels 1-7 are all defined precisely by actions. Level 8 is a state of "enlightenment," in which activity has no part and all is pure perception. How much more explicitly cultish could this get? Step 9: You spontaneously start to fly around in the air? This is a charlatan's trick, offering the fast and easy way to happiness to lazy minded suckers.
The question never arises as to whether any views held by anyone are ever knowingly false and in bad faith, in which case they could simply game you if they knew you were fully committed to a good faith compromise under all conceivable circumstances. All they would have to do is offer an unyielding antiithetical position to you out of pure hate, just to force you to meet them half way. Then repeat the process until you were 75% of the way, and so on. This would be especially ironic, since they wouldn't believe anything they're saying and would only want to force you to do the despicable, in the name of some misguided "love." Like at the Ministry of Love in Orwell's, "1984."
James, verstand is pronounced, "fershtand.". My parents were from Germany. Cheers!
TIKHistory actually did a series on Gnosticism and explains how Hitlerism and F@sc¡sm are Gnostic religions in the same vain of Marxism.
This is not even a real video. At least not in any true sense. You took the word most closely associated with the devil, but that isn’t “The Devil” and put it directly beside the word “Gnostic”, because you felt like this one’s a real battle. This one right here, this one’s important right? Because your schizophrenic Yahweh told you it is, and you’re scared. You’re scared of eternity in hell, and the unknown. And because of this, you gave up on the true meanings of words a long time ago. Satisfied to see the contrasting imperfections in low level information and convince yourself their is nothing there.. gotta do it.
You’ve got enough multisyllabic words in there to believe in your own faith, as a certain degree of intellectualism is required for you, which you battle with due to one very obvious and usually ignored reason, the problem most thinking Christians can feel under the surface. That is, if modern Christianity is forceful enough to defeat the evil idiocracy. It’s good, it’s beautiful, it’s passionate and it’s the truth but does it defeat them? Well, it doesn’t. Modern Christianity is completely impotent, and Christians know it, even if only in the back of your mind.
Beat woke Marxism tho? I’m on board. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. All I can suggest for you is to understand the world is complex. Gnosticism is complex. You may snag a few of those like you, but people who really want the truth will ultimately be lead to Plato and to Gnosticism. Will it keep them? Who knows. Maybe it’s not the end of the road. That said, I stopped listening after 5 minutes. I’m on board with you wanting to end woke Marxism tho, even if u are R3T4DED kekekeke
>stopped listening after 4 minutes
Then why would anyone consider your contribution valuable as a response to this video and not just you defending your sacred cow.
PD: James Lindsay is an atheist btw.
I wanted to be honest, to argue in both good faith and a bit of disgust
If gnoaticism is the opposite of what we want to do here, then why is the world Lindsay describes seem so gnostic?
It is the result of gnostic subversion, although "gnostic" might be a term that is too broad. Just like if orthodox marxists tried to subvert a set of institutions (probably related to free markets, but not exclusively), they would try to make them replicate the "contradictions" and other characteristics they claim or predict within their worldview in order to justify the ideologically motivated "solution" they provide.
It's not groundhog day, it's groundhog generation.
All I understood from dignity index is how a person perceive others around him, not how he should act. They're steps towards empathy.
Again, what this all have in common with gnostics? It isn't conspiracy that all power structures give simple answers to satisfy herd, we aren't born yesterday. Gnosis teach us limited trust to existing order, and to experience if everything we are said is true, contrary to communism, where you must comply, rather than be the best version of ourselves.
All this video looks like some christian said: "i don't like communism and i don't like gnosticism. So communism is like gnosticism."
It's utter BS.
100000% this. All james does is remove nuance and misinform. Globalism is communism is Marxism is socialism is globalism and on and on
I'm a gnostic. Ask me anything.
What is the Nasi conspiracy to rule all of humanity? Asking for a friend, Guillaume Belibaste namely.
@@qlippoth13 Interesting! I'm not familiar with this, but now I'm curious. Fortunately, we have search engines.
Why do gnostics say life is punishment but then go on with it?
@@flowerpt Good question, Bill. The view is that the human body is a prison for the soul. It is not a punishment but the condition of bondage. However, where does the soul go when the body dies? Until gnosis is given, there is no way to be sure. Gnosis is granted by God, not attained by secret rituals, though we might strive and hope.
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James coming on strong with ANTI-DIS-INCARNATIONALISM, I hope.
FULL COMMITMENT to the vicissitudes of existence.
Yes?
This sounds like a rabid Communist who rattled the hornet's nest frantically trying to get ahead of the pendulum swing and protect themselves from backlash.
Occam razor disagrees
Ehhh
define evil.. It's just an ancient word... I can understand narcissism.. but evil is an open ended word.
It is not just a word. It points towards something outside of mere linguistic phenomena. Also, since this approach is supposed to recruit people, it makes sense for them to try to convince you of compromising with a broad notion of evil without outright saying it (and even disguising it as a defense of "human dignity).
@@sebastiansirvas1530 Not allowing people to have dignity is a good way to define "evil"... but narcissism works as well.
@AstroSquid If dignity is inherent, nobody can take it away. Also, allow? What do you mean exactly. I think narcissism and evil overlap a lot, at least regarding behavior and some of the beliefs behind them, but are not necessarily the same.
@@sebastiansirvas1530 Well the word evil, is a word to describe a behavior, but it's not clearly defined.. There's all sorts of lore around that word, it's and ancient word.. It evokes feelings of fear, of demons and devils. Modern psychology does a lot to explain behavior, it has it's own vocabulary.. So to use the word evil it to appeal to a certain group of people.. To me the bad behavior isn't clearly defined and the word evokes tribalist hate. For example, I believe people behave tribalisticly because it's a biological instinct. Tribalism is what religions and demagogues use to evoke the hate of one group over the other group. A person will do "evil" things because they believe in their "tribe". So talking about that behavior would be something more helpful than the word evil. Talking about tribal instincts would be better than using the word evil... I don't consider that work intellectual or helpful by any means. Tribalistic hate is not evil, evil is a word that forces people to pick a side and become tribal martyrs.
Evil is the absence of good.
Some fan of Hegel, a Jason Barton, came to Hegel's defense because accusing Hegel of gnosticism or hermeticism is just intolerable. How ideologically possessed do you have to be to defend against the truth?
I looked up Dignity Index. Levels 1 and 2 are literally how Libs act towards MAGA!
This video almost makes me fully disagree. If you life in a country with high censorship/propaganda and you show someone some "forbidden" media, does that make you a gnostic? I don't think so. Abstracting things too much does not help.
This is dead on!