The Secret History of Soundsystems & UK Bass Culture
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- Опубликовано: 26 июл 2023
- This Is a documentary that started as a university project a few years ago. The pandemic halted the filming of further installments to this fascinating topic, hopefully, there will be more to come. In the meantime enjoy this segment of what is part of UK Black history.
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Excellent documentary and a trip down memory lane. I am 68 and have lived in USA for 40 years, but for the time that I spent in UK, Sound System was a major part of my life. Metro Downbeat is someone I knew very well, to us he was Uncle Percy, and his older brother was my Stepfather. We lived in a big house in Leytonstone, with a huge basement which my Dad fitted out for keeping Blues Dances and get togethers. Metro was the resident DJ, and he was among the best. Metro would often let me hear the pre-releases even before he played them at the Dances, so I have a good grounding in what I believe was the golden age of Jamaican music. Very often when he played in E. London it was at our house, and later on at functions at the Town Hall. I remember the Sound Clashes with Shelley and Admiral Ken, and the day trips to the Seaside with the Sound System culminating with a big dance (and sometimes a fight between the rival sounds) Most of all I remember the music, Metro's sound was tight, he was in my view the best, and some of the music in your background reminds me of the kind of music he would round the night out with, at around 5 - 6 o'clock in the morning. Sound System and the Blues Dances etc were a major part of our lives back then, at that time I was coming of age, so there were places I could not go, but if Metro was playing I could. The influence that those Sound Systems had on so many different genres of music is staggering, and I don't think that those pioneers got their props. If Metro or his Son sees this, I want to remind him of my Mom "Mackie"- around early 80s we moved to USA, but we haven't forgotten those good old days in London and the people that we knew at that time. When we moved to NY my Mom tried to revive the Blues Dance in the basement of our home in Queens, but it didn't take off.....you could never replicate that sound and that group of people again although we did get some support from people we knew who had moved to NY but were from London. Thanks again.
Wow *thumbsup* keep onnit! This was very interesting. I added it to my Documentary playlist
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Remember those times in London well!!! Im 61 so was around then and people respected sound and blues dance when YOU had to “hold a bottle” to get in..!
Still see Babycham, Skol beer, Long Life beer, Cani and VSOP much later as prime examples of what we did drink back then and everyone dressed up in Farah slacks, Crocs shoes and Gabicci to look the part!
Big people ting was what it was all about.
Bring back the Toasting and decent reggae and stop this negative bangarang!
You need to write a book ;)
Hi just watched this and my dad is Barry service the man playing the reggae in the shop ,haven't seen that picture in ages ,loved this ❤
I myself used to buy records from your Dad when I was a teenager... Big up Barry Service
Love this, we have to hail up the Craven Park Road shops who kept the vibe alive, grew up with all of this
Big up to you my brother. Everybody know about Dj Herc on the other side of the pond. But you have brought some of our own innovators to light. Bless up, thank you 🙏
That was a great documentary, respect Danny. I was born and bred in Clapton and grew up there during the 80s, sound clash was peaking them times, i miss the days on Hackney Downs and Clissold, when all the big systems would set up, run dubs and chat. Be really nice to see a documentary about it, and the demise or switch when rave came about.
This has to be one of the best well produced pieces of Jamaican UK music programs ever 🙏🏽🔥🧡🔥
So good to see this documentary and understand the origins of the sound systems .Reading the comments adds another dimension as well .
Fantastic work 👋👋👋. keeping it alive
Loyola Hall in Stamford Hill
Where 2 big sounds clashed
Count Shelly the Magnificent
VS
Sir Coxsone Downbeat
This is solid gold ! Thank you so much for posting this.
My mum was a teenager in late 60s London. For her generation of British kids, they really thought black American music was the height of cool. Black Caribbean music was also black, also cool and also from the other side of the ocean. So she was very familiar with Jimmy Cliff, knew the words to Desmond Dekker and all. The impression I get is that a little before my mother's era - the only cool "after hours" parties that came close to a club experience were Caribbean dances. Other than that it was just the odd pub that might close their curtains and let people hang out or small house parties that were lacking (as Beverly says - they weren't "saying much"). So there was this "baby boom" of young people looking for something to do and people like Duke Vin and Count Shelley really found a huge opening in the market. So that became the foundation of the entire party scene in the UK. Which is why, even up into the 1990s, an electronic music party was referred to by a name used by Caribbean people in the UK - it was called a "rave".
So true , there wouldn’t be the uk music industry of today without the Jamaican uk based sound system pioneers of the 50s,60s & also those who followed later in the 70s,80s like sir coxsone, Fatman etc.
The sound system was a centerpiece of every Jamaican community
Really nice, heartwarming doc - I felt so goood by the end! Took me back - I was a 60s mod in Finchley. Stax and Motown dominated our scene, but sometimes we heard Prince Buster, Skatalites, etc and loved it. Wish I'd known more about sound systems then. But I caught up once I moved to Notting Hill in '77. Anyway thanks - as someone else said - "instant sub!"
PS: Intriguing to see a record lifted off the turntable at 8:15 - then he had TWO records in his hand. Wot?!!
PPS: When's Part 2 coming?
PPPS: I think some people would appreciate subtitles at certain points 😉
You did the documentary Danny. So happy that you did. I remembered when you were talking about it.I can imagine how proud uncle tuts must be feeling, just stumbled across it now 😊
Absolutely brilliant podcast, as a sound system fan of the 80s- 90s it’s great to get more knowledge & history of where our black British communities musical history & experience originated from. As a black British born of Caribbean descent I’ve always argued with many others even our own about how much the uk popular music is really influenced and derived from Jamaican reggae music sound system culture even down to the outdoors music festival events and how music is played/ presented to a crowd. All inspired by the uk Jamaican sound system culture which gets little or no credit for these facts. Keep up the good works righting this terrible wrong 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
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My Dad had a sound called Count Roy Hifi, big him up everytime 👏🏿
This is excellent and I'm glad I watched to the end. To see my dad's best friend Ronnie Lawrence interviewed was a huge surprise.. He's been in my life for fifty odd years. Looking forward to part two. Great work. 🙏🏾
WONDERFUL DOCUMENT!!!! Danny Jay, I will seek you out and buy you that big drink you deserve! Absolutely lovely job. Bless from Rashid Nix
Excellent documentary !.A must watch for all Sound system fans and Reggae music lovers.
Very well curated 👏👏👏👏
Fascinating, I love hearing these stories. I think it's so important that they are documented like this. The influence this culture would have on music not just in the UK but around the world is immeasurable. The clubs and dances going on around this time must have been thrilling. Thank you Danny.🙏
Nice work fella 😎😎😎😎😎😎 Was at Duke Vin's send off, a fine old gent ❤❤
Wish videos like yours was on the mainstream broadcast media
Thank you so much for the comments so far... Keep them coming... I would also like to hear from the pioneers and their siblings of the movement outside of London. Their efforts need to be documented Contact me ..Instagram@dannyjaythedoctor
Give Thanks and Praise to The Most High for life 🙏🏾....
I really appreciate The soundsystem in England, from London, Birmingham, Manchester etc .we should have more this about old time Soundsystem in England.
Big up
Theres a programe not as good ad this doc but theres a clip with the great lloydie coxsone telling the whole world that he want to play in the albert hall and the likkle yout you see next to lloydie cox is me him big son today i love sound system culture and watching this is very educational for us black men whos fathers played or owned a sound system im sure this is the man who built or sold his pre amp to jah shaka metro downbeat was a sound engineer who built very compact pre amps
Fascinating... Those bits of history need to be accumulated nationwide to preserve their contributions or they will be lost and unheard to the annuls of time.. Get in contact
Big up danny j for sharing these historical stories 😎
Excellent work, brought back so many childhood memories of when my dad used to play the shabenes.
Superb archive , adds so much resonance to Black Culture in the UK. Love the living commentary and interviews. Thank you for honouring Black Heritage with this documentary. 🔈🔉🔊
Great documentary....spent my formative years around Dalston/Hackney. Four Aces, Johnny Bronx, Lord Stanley, Prince of Wales and later Beverley Ivorys bar on Kingsland Road. Good days - nice vibes did run dem times. Peace and Love.
Solid documentry nuff respect
Great to see this,Bless Up ❤️💛💚🕊🇪🇹🇯🇲🙂
Brilliant !!!…….every day’s a school day ! ❤️ 🤜🏴🇯🇲🤛🏾
Interracial parties 🤮🤧😒00:27
Nice one! Time well spent.
Have lived in Jamaica in Porty, all my love for JA started in the mid 80s, me and my white mates used to go up to Brixton and Clapham to Blues Parties! Good times, Great Documentary.
Great documentary. Keep up the good work bro!
Nice one Danny
Thanks for posting this ❤
Good stuff my smart brother 👌
I have always been enthralled by sound systems since I was a young boy. I am 60 now and still fascinated by audio.
finally a documetary by a man who was and still is part of it. Just great, thank you Danny 👍🏾🤍🌺
Thanks gotta keep it moving 😊
Many thanks things mentioned are places where my parents took our family to and we experienced these types of sounds
I was a youth but that was the best days
Solid documentary 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
🤮🤧😒00:37. 1950. Build. Beetles. Led. Zeppelin. Talk it. Reagee
00:38. Millie. Small 🙆🏽♀️🙆🏽🌀🌀🌀🤜🏾✨🤛🏾🫦🍭blow job. Song come on peoples Leave the young people alone
Brilliant documentary!
Absolutely brilliant
Essential watching. Superb
Fantastic documentary. Thanks for sharing.
Great documentary btw.
Love it Danny.
Thank you for this, its a great work the history of sound system and part it has played and shaped todays music is one that needs to be documented, dance music even pop music would not be what it is today without the foundation that is sound system..
Theres another guy who built the first amplifiers. Mr Eddie 'The African'. Very rarely talked about, but he was the original builder.
Great documentary ❤
Yes I have heard of Eddie the original amp builder.. if I'm correct with my information.. His grandson is none other than Musician/ Producer Jazzad
Legacy lives on
You mean in in the UK?
@@roylle6346yes, Mr Eddie was building amps and pre here in the UK.
@@yodab.at1746 oh ok
Give Thanks 4 sharing ❤️
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SHALOM
Wicked drop, a slice of history!
00:23 only one womb in party 🤮🤧😒
00:27 black womb was home with child
00:31. White peoples love. Reggae of course then them rob blacks too b free
Precious!
Instant sub.
This is Amazing 🎹📻!!
Thank you
remaster and edit digitally this is too important to reduce low quality. Leave out the music bed track during interview scenes
Thank you for your constructive criticism but there is a reason I put out a low res version on RUclips
My 0:14 about Sofrano B, her brother sound system.from the brixton, I'll definitely have to visit him to get some of this history from his perspective.
Enjoyed this…
I very much enjoyed your documetary i would like to meet you are you the man who wrote bass culture very rare book but suddenly it stop produce need yo bring the book back out in the street nuff respect your dad mentions my dad so thrtes a connection there big up youtself
Hi, Shaun an honor.. No, I did not write that book about bass culture I do possess a copy though.. Hit me up on instagram@dannyjaythedoctor
Nice one.
Great documentary is there a movie about this? very interesting thank you for sharing.
When i was kid and my dad took me to his house i must have been 6 in one room he had speaker boxes as high as the room with red and yellow green lights on it , i did not have a clue. When i got older, I found out he lived on the fronline brixon and knew all the sounds in the area , he made amps and boxes, One day a man came to my house and it was the guy who owned King tubbys, only when i grew up i found out who he was. My uncle had a sound in Luton my cuz had one in Peckham.
The Other thing is funny your dad in west plam beach, My mum live port st lucie , they took me to a friends house and the man of the house was an Ex police man from Yard....I swear this was in 2007 and this man had a Mackitosh Hi fi with amps pre amp laser disc suround sound speaker the was at least 10 parts to the system and 6 speakes with sub woofers he got it in the 70s it looked like new ....im sure its worth about 200k now best hifi i seen them time our Blaupoint gram was still good in the 70s.
I wish the audio was better dope interview though
good job❤
Interesting story
Great documentary. UK musical culture would be a sad thing without Jamaica.
It's why I moved to Brixton in the 80's from Wales as a white lover of the sound, still here.Back in the day 4 aces Hackney, blues, shaeebins around Brixton, never no bother.
Memories of my youth 🖤🖤🖤
What is the name of the opening track and how would you classify that type of music?
Jah! Jah! Sir Sufferer!
Nice.
🙋🏾♀️😳😳😳 oh “”myJah””” I knew it I knew it I knew it I knew it. I said it 20 years ago I’ve been saying this since 20 years ago I’m 59 will be 60 next month September 2023 I said to 48 Jamaica Soundsystem came from African-Americans in the 1920s with the blues. I knew I was right I knew it.. Are used to go down south here in America to Mississippi in the 70s and 80s for vacation and my relatives who was still alive who played the blue and they were bringing out all of those old machines they called the sound system and I know it and that’s saying when I was in my 30s remembering all the days that Jamaican sound system came from African-Americans and the blue and the sound system machines🔥🔥🔥🔥🏆🏆🏆🏆🔥
You Americans love lie n try claim what's not yours. I had some yank try say America invented jungle before London ever did 🤣🤣🤣🤣
And while spreading those music to accumulate more sales in England like in clubs on street corners all over Europe what thanks did the Soundsystem culture gets from the Americans industries and Black Americans😅😅 is that they saying Jamaicans get from them!
Yet Americans been back and forth to England before those pioneers 😅😅 really crazy!
Lol, African American music all through the documentary you idiot. What about concerts and Block parties you idiot. They talking about the UK not America clown.
You filled in some gaps of history foe me.britisn sounds was the best.
Maximum Respek.
So the blues dance pre dated (sorry for bringing this name up) jimmy Saville doing 'disk only' nights,charging people to listen to recordings. That would be great if so. Many people, who hate him, think its him.
The Blues Dance concept pre-dated Mr Saville by at least 10 years
@dannyjay6963 thank you for confirming that.
Saville wasn't the first to play records at a time when live bands provided the music, but is generally regarded as the first to hook up two turntables, although it was not his invention he got it from somebody else.
Rip Soferno B
0:55 my headphones can do THAT?
Love this video. So informative!
A little bit of advice from me would be to NOT look up who is credited as 'inventing' tein record decks, and the practice of putting two together and queing up one record while waiting fir the last one to finish, because it isnt some legendary person or talented individual. Quite the opposite infact.
It was one if the mist evil men in history. Jimmy Savile. And i only wish i was making that up. He did it whilehe was a young dj in his army days. Shame henever got shot. But it genuinely makes me feel ill knowing we gave got him to thank for that contribution to the music scene. Even wirse is ge had an influence on the New York hio hop scene in the early days. He was working in new york as a dj in the late 60s and ingratiated himself in to that burgeoning scene. Again, i wish i was making it up but its fully documented. Just as hitler is credited with commisioning the production of the VW car and Fanta, this evil man gets credited with thst invention. When in reality the only thing he deserves credit for is being evil. By wife ran in 2 marsthons alongside himwhen sge was around 12/13 and although nothing inappropriate hapoened, she said he was creepy as hell. And now we know why
This is alllllll hip-hop
QUANTRO SOUND
So base sound system culture
Is wat is now called hip-hop
Curious why you say the Secret history..?
In word, can you diversify..?
Of Course... This is a slice of Black British history that at best, has been glossed over or rushed over without any detailed accounts on a general scope. Therefore the accounts have been left open for re-interpretation by unscrupulous individuals falsifying their involvement as far as the generality of this subject goes. Here I have tried to capture this as accurately as I can from the horses' mouths... There is a lot more to come stat tuned
@@dannyjay6963 I asked as my family is from Jamaica. Clarendon, May Pen and over the years I’ve been back and forth to JA and attended many a dance, Blues, Shebeen where members of my family would attend…Plenty being box boys in their youth: Sound men, Selector, Toasters and organisers…
If you check it, Volcano sound and King Ster Gaf of which many went to in the 80s are the peoples’ sound which would string up its boxes on all 4 corners come Friday nights and everyone would turn out to show respect for the sound…
Fast forward to the massive Jamaican input in the UK where reggae music is concerned and sound system was common in the 1980s where many parties were held just so sound system could “hold a dance”
Plenty challenge was rift back then between the top UK sounds which you can find mentioned on the internet…
That’s why I could not understand the title of your interesting RUclips video.
Good to know still, that information like this can set the record ( and I ain’t talking vinyl! No pun intended…) straight.
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Many thanks. I lived in Jamaica in early 80s and attended many memorable dances there in Kingston and Yallahs in St Thomas.. Dances in Jamaica had a unique and different vibe UK.. Good times still.. My favourite ones in Jamaica were the Sturgav and early Kilimanjaro ones.. Wicked bad
@@dannyjay6963 YESSSS Bredren, Stur Gav ( Steroegraph! ) was a big sound with many big name selectors coming from its humble start like Charlie Chaplin, Little John, Josey Wales, Brigadir Jerry, Daddy U Roy for me the king of Toasting and if you know,, you know who was Sitladeen…
Kilimanjaro Sound is older than Stur but still playing over there in The US / Canada and back ah Yard still…Great sound.
Can’t think of anyone more connected that Ricky Trooper but plenty man passed thru’ when they were big in the 1980s still. Good times back then fi real!
From Freddie Kruger did play with them he gone ah Foreign and become ah big star selector over there.
Sweet selector for real from yard.
You can't understand a friggin thing most of these dudes are saying!!
Try using the aub-title facility within RUclips
TRACK ID AT 0:42 - 0:50 PLEASE!? @DANNYJAY6963
Hi CHAD-bw7tu. My apologies for the delayed response.. The track is an original composition created by myself and was produced for the artist Danny Brasco from Noth London, entitled 'Slew Dem !!!'
@@dannyjay6963 Thanks for the reply! is it availible to download/stream or buy anywhere? I've searched every part of the interenet since reading this but still can't find it. Also... great work btw!