DC port is IN and OUT. Top Panel is also made buy PixelCNC. The ECLIPSE cannot be purchased at the moment. We have completed the builds for early adopters. Stay tuned for more info. Although I oversimplified the images and build, there's not much remaining of the BMMCC inside. The NEOGRAY film is actually another ECLIPSE being built. ALL electronics had to be re-worked to achieve these upgrades.
You guys are incredible! Congratulations on all the amazing work you’re doing! Thank you so much for your kind words-creating the intro and the short film was an absolute pleasure. I’m truly honored to collaborate with AltCineCam. Keep up the fantastic work-filmmakers truly need you!
This is beyond speechless. This Caméra!!! Wow. All those collabs are such team spirit and hard work. Congratulations to all of you. I really wish Blackmagic would see that and help you and offer you a deal to make this caméra available on the market worldwide. Nobody has even done such work on such a beast and i honestly wish Blackmagic would wake up and hire you to develop this projet and get you guys what you need. Bravo. Love.
Thank you Hugo, you're so kind. Without the talents of everyone involved, these projects aren't possible. We really appreciate everyone involved and you guys for the support 🙏🏾
These multibillion dollar companies couldn't make something like this, for years we asked them and they just couldn't? They just decided to not listen to the customers. This thing is amazing, good for you guys.
@@NarrowGaugeFilmsLLC One of the reasons we started this project was because they did not. We had a working prototype before Blackmagic announced the Pyxis. We had the V1 ready waay before they started shipping them. Now you could say that they did make it but at the time of starting this project there was nothing like this.
@@NarrowGaugeFilmsLLCwatch the video again and check the dates. This was shown before the Pyxis was even known about. Also, we also designed the Pyxis a good 2 years before the Pyxis came out. I was very surprised to see that Blackmagic had a very similar concept to ours. You'd have to go back on some of my videos but the designs are there.
BRAVO AltCine 👏 🤩 🌞 genius vision 🌞 superb realization. 🌞Respect 🙌 for the monumental effort required to take whats imagined in the mind and manifest it in the physical world!
So cool! V3 should have flush or recessed buttons on top instead of raised - I’m sure that’s a totally new feat to solve but you guys are the one’s to do it!
Thank you. Yeah for CinePi we will definitely do something like that. I gotta do a live stream soon so I can get a bit more feedback before we start the printing process. We have to do it soon because we're almost ready to roll.
Hi Mark, merry Christmas. This build is very complex and after tearing down the camera, you're literally building a whole new camera from scratch. This is why we want to replied this with CinePi. Higher reayfor those that do want 4k but a very simple build.
@ makes sense. Both seem like fun builds honestly. Love what you do. This is what this community is about. The creativity and drive. Love it so much!!!
Brother congratulations 🎉🎉🎉 I remember when I came across your channel a few years back, and what you did had me wanting to get into video but I didn’t have the budget… and then you pull out the EOS M and I was sold! I’ll be on the lookout for this project because I rather support something that was built with us members of this community in mind, and not just pushing newer and better like everyone else (camera companies)
Thank you so much brother and for still being here. We always think this cinema game is about the pro's, who's got the best camera or making the most money but there's a bigger community outside of this. Yes I do buy cameras often as it's my work and hobby but I know there's people who just like to capture everyday stuff and make shorts and how cool would it be to do it on a nice cine cam, self upgradeable with breaking the bank😁 The CinePi project will be very interesting
Thank you very much! A very good test and example of what's to come. We actually want people to build their own high end cinema cams so I'm really hoping the pi project is a success.
Amazing what you've been able to do, the Eclipse is a dream of a camera! I hope to see lots of BTS pics of them in action, and can't wait to see the CinePi!!
Cheers brother, you have the right vision on this 🙌🏾 it's not even about this camera...it's what we learned in the process. Thanks again, your few words really made me smile.
Merry Christmas my dear friend and congratulations on another wonderful year 🎉❤ hope you enjoy your time together and enjoy the new year! We will meet one day hopefully 🤞
Thank you. There won't be I'm afraid. The Arri will be the last conversion although we are considering the Fuji Xm5. The CinePi is the main focus because we don't want to use other brands hardware anymore.
Smashing it out of the park once again. Awesome stuff. I did not quite understand the Arri reference at the end - nice cliffhangers. Good to see you in your element ❤from muggy Kuala Lumpur
Cheers brother 🙌🏾 Not speaking about you but sometimes we have to do things to show people how far we can go. The Eclipse is more like a test camera, we gained tons of experience building this and it was basically a test to see how things work. It'll all make sense once you see the Arri.
Great job, thanks for all that creativity and that spirit of wanting to share with all those looking for alternatives in film cameras... I continue and have faith, waiting for an alternative for my bmpcc 4k. Hahaha blessings to all
Thank you for stopping by and leaving a comment. Blackmagic are awesome but we just wanted something that was a bit easier to work with. It's all good training for the cams we're currently building.
Thank you for your interest bro. It'll take time to produce more because the build is complex. I oversimplified it in this video but it really is a complete rebuild and we could only do a handful. The CinePi will be the one to look out for.
Yeah that'll be a good launch. Think we may have to do a live soon, just to get some information on what people want in it. We have everything sorted but we might get some good ideas.
Awesome. We will try get as much of this into CinePi as possible. We will start with a basic build first though...gotta make it easy for everyone to build.
Can’t wait to see the negative reviews from purchasers on YT posting screenshots of the messages. Seriously tho, this endeavour was groundbreaking. Also, sick beats . Who did the loop?
Yeah there's always one 😅 this is why the CinePi project must be DIY. Thanks man, most of the music was from an audio website that NEOGRAY uses, mine is from RUclips library.
Awesome video as usual Brotha! I was just wondering if you've ever made a FLIR camera? all of the Thermal cameras that are out there shoot at extremely low quality and was wondering if you had ever built one and if not, I think a 4k Thermal camera build would be pretty cool! Keep up the good work and I wish you a prosperous year!
Thank you so much. A high resolution thermal camera would be impossible for us. To achieve even 1080p would require an insanely large sensor and expertise beyond our capabilities. It would be amazing if we could make a small high Res one...I'd be a millionaire overnight 😁
@@kept_infocus3274 The highest resolution infrared camera available to the public is the Flir T1020 with a shy price of 50k dollars. The same sensor is being used by the military so its basically as good as it gets.
The V2 has all the internal parts replaced along with the screen bringing in some new features. So its the more developed version of the first Eclipse, this means its the same camera being used with the same sensor. I would argue that its a bit more than a housing built around it tough🙏
I actually did start a p6k build with Filmatura in 2023 but we didn't carry on our partnership. Simon and I really want to do a camera from the ground up and the Eclipse was great testing ground.
We tried to make it as weather sealed as possible, all the buttons have rubber rings around them, the display is sealed to the top plate along with the pogo pins. This makes it do pretty well even in rain as the top won’t let water in. The problem is the sides, having two vents for intake and outlet does not allow weather sealing. The ports have the same rubber rings around them on the inside but you would still have to be careful with the vents. I say a light rain won’t hurt.
@@Premier-Media-GroupI will be testing that in Iceland early 2025 but because we will have the CinePi ready and which is more important...I might take that instead. We shall see but either way, a video will be uploaded.
Guys, can I ask you a question? Why didn't you use a BMCC 2.5K camera as a base? After all, this is a much more advanced camera, but with the same sensor.
Hi mate, yeah that might have actually been easier and the added bonus of SSD but despite the image I showed of the micro with the screws, ports etc...we actually had to remove most of the micro housing to make the camera this size. We tried to do the p6k before this but the camera ended up so large due to the circuit boards it wasn't worth it. You definitely have a valid question but yes, it would have ended up quite large.
Thank you and I totally understand that. We never really designed this one for mass production, it's impossible but early this year we said we'd make a limited number...the CinePi is the real goal. I chose NPF as it's what I prefer and to me it was no different than using BPU on my FX6. I do have a v-mount adapter but I also understand that v-mount on cine cams is preferable.
The Eclipse (although fully operational) is a test camera. We ripped the whole thing apart just to rebuild it, to gain knowledge for a proper CinePi camera. Most people need to 'see' in order to visualise properly and the Arri will do that. We get a lot of people trying to diminish what we're doing...even since the canon M-Lite so it's best just to show physical working products so people get the idea.
@@AltCine I understand. It's been my dream since getting a cheap Arri Alexa to replace the metal parts with carbon fiber. It would be great if you're working on something like that.
@@gwm-btdbattlesagar.ioandmo9988 you'd have to go back to some of my videos from a year ago but we already discussed this. In a nutshell...the internals are too big which would have made the camera the same size as Ursa and increase the cost by a lot. This was a training project for us for CinePi, we don't really have a desire to make modified Blackmagics anymore.
@@AltCine That is a leading question, depending on who is asking but since for you I killa de bull I will tell you. I would put them where I have access to them when the camera is on sticks and the lens is at standing eye height and taller. That would mean for them to be on the smart side of the camera. Now we know from experience that the buttons on the BMD micro and studio cameras are a pain because one cannot see them when one needs to operate them and they happen to be on the front, dumb side of the camera. Monitor and buttons are good on the top for hand held and sitting interviews but for anything where the lens is at eye height and above, it becomes an issue of needing to have a "man maker" or short ladder to see the menu screen and access to buttons. Be kind to vertically challenged camera operators.
love what you are doing, but also don't really get the point of doing this on a very old sensor. Dual gain technology was a thing when this camera was released, it's not something special nowadays. I used an OG on my last film, and the image quality man, is often disappointing (yes, I know how to expose this camera!). A lot of unwanted noise, grid pattern in low light, limited dynamic range (compared to the 4K at least one stop lower). The BMPCC 4K made a lot more sense to be modified, given more option (including a 2.6K mode with a 8ms rolling shutter and much much better lowlight performance). I think you are great and kind people, love what you are doing, don't want to sound too harsh but just pushing you investing energies into something more useful, given the amazing achievements you are reaching from a technical standpoint. Best wishes
Dual Gain technology is still special. There are only a few number of sensor having this technology implemented and most of them is in Arri cameras. The industry changed over to Dual Native ISO which is not an in sensor level technology so its easier for manifacturers to produce. I think the works of Neogray Films sums up pretty well the image quality of this camera and how capable it still is. I won’t comment much on dynamic range as both the OG and 4k in this case claims to have 13 stops. Both of them try to achieve this differently and this is where the speciality of this sensor shines. It has an organic image profile. Since the production of the Pocket 4k Blackmagic switched over to Sony sensors. The 4K for example has an IMX294, i don’t think that it has anything special compared to the Fairchild one other than more resolution. All this can come down to personal taste so the more accurate answer to your question is that we liked it this way.
@@simon-altcinecam I tend to disagree. Sensor technology has come long way forward. Every sensor technology has to be related to each sensor limitation. Dual gain technology made sense in early CMOS developments, not nowadays. Have a look at Canon C70 vs Canon C80 comparison. Canon C70 has a great dual gain technology (kind of) but Canon C80 has not, yet you get a better image out of the C80, cleaner shadows and same dynamic range. To be fair, Fairchild sensor were great, in particular the one on the BMCC 2.5K which has higher bitrate and can recover highlight fantastically, although rolling shutter was quite bad. But I find the Fairchild sensor on the BMPCC OG and the BMCC OG very disappointing. Yes they give an organic image, but nothing you can't reach nowadays with basically every camera on the market. Also, the sensor is only a part of the story. I think gyro data on the BMPCC 4K is quite revolutionary for handheld footage and other option you can activate in post, such as mitigate the rolling shutter (partially). There is this amazing story we tell us on Fairchild sensor which makes no sense nowadays. Even the CinePI smokes any Fairchild out of the water. But let me be clear: I appreciate your work.
@@MrDavidemarI get it, although I do love the organic look of Fairchild...I've also been impressed with even some modern 8 but cams in the right settings. Regarding the ECLIPSE, we never made this to be a success. Think of this as test run in order to gain the knowledge we need to put into the CinePi. We could have went directly to CinePi but we've torn down quite a few cameras to see what's possible. The first one was the canon M-Lite which was a very basic rehousing. The Eclipse went far beyond that to a full electronic rebuild and the insights were fantastic. Now we're putting the simplicity of the M-lite with he complexities of ECLIPSE in making a camera that hopefully most people can build, hardware upgrade and software tweak at home. I actually like your question, thought provoking & well stated with good examples.
@@AltCine I deeply appreciate that gentlemen like you and Simon can discuss without feeling criticized. Any news about the CinePi/Octopus project? Everything seems abandoned....
Kinda stupid..all this hype and u build a couple and the rest of us can't buy it..what's the point To show off that u could do it..ok congrats on that..bit as.a product its a joke
It was clearly stated in the first release video. Also we said it many times now and i will say it again, The Eclipse is not our main focus. Its never going to be, its a test run and learning process towards the CinePi which is going to be superior in almost every way possible. I don’t understand how its a “joke as product” when we did not state that its a product. Its a working camera, there has been amazing footage already made with it and probably will make a lot more amazing footage.
Can you please explain? Nearly every company from Microsoft, Apple to Amazon was started in a very low key way and using business models from other companies. Our end goal is to give people the opportunity to build a high resolution cinema camera at home that's self upgradeable hardware & software. If that's depressing to you, I think you need to reflect on your mental state of mind.
@@unfug2433 thank you so much for buying that, you helped us with much needed funds to build the Eclipse and that led to gaining the knowledge to build a pro CinePi. You probably didn't know but you you guys who bought stuff pushed this forward in record time 🙌🏾
DC port is IN and OUT.
Top Panel is also made buy PixelCNC.
The ECLIPSE cannot be purchased at the moment. We have completed the builds for early adopters. Stay tuned for more info.
Although I oversimplified the images and build, there's not much remaining of the BMMCC inside.
The NEOGRAY film is actually another ECLIPSE being built. ALL electronics had to be re-worked to achieve these upgrades.
You guys are incredible! Congratulations on all the amazing work you’re doing! Thank you so much for your kind words-creating the intro and the short film was an absolute pleasure. I’m truly honored to collaborate with AltCineCam. Keep up the fantastic work-filmmakers truly need you!
The pleasure is all ours bro, it's an honour to work with other creators and thank you for your wonderful work.
If before I admired you for what you were doing... I don't know now 😂
bro you rocks!!! the right tool in the right hands ❤
@brunocannavina Thank you! 😊
So good results and many more to come, you should be proud of!
@@sarcasticfpv hey bro, yeah there's a lot more to come. Most proud of what we learned this year...like an explosion of knowledge.
@@AltCine keep going!!
This is beyond speechless. This Caméra!!! Wow.
All those collabs are such team spirit and hard work. Congratulations to all of you.
I really wish Blackmagic would see that and help you and offer you a deal to make this caméra available on the market worldwide.
Nobody has even done such work on such a beast and i honestly wish Blackmagic would wake up and hire you to develop this projet and get you guys what you need.
Bravo. Love.
Thank you Hugo, you're so kind. Without the talents of everyone involved, these projects aren't possible.
We really appreciate everyone involved and you guys for the support 🙏🏾
Phenomenal 🥹
These multibillion dollar companies couldn't make something like this, for years we asked them and they just couldn't?
They just decided to not listen to the customers.
This thing is amazing, good for you guys.
They did make it, this is just a modded camera made by Blackmagic.
@@NarrowGaugeFilmsLLC One of the reasons we started this project was because they did not. We had a working prototype before Blackmagic announced the Pyxis. We had the V1 ready waay before they started shipping them. Now you could say that they did make it but at the time of starting this project there was nothing like this.
@@NarrowGaugeFilmsLLCwatch the video again and check the dates. This was shown before the Pyxis was even known about.
Also, we also designed the Pyxis a good 2 years before the Pyxis came out.
I was very surprised to see that Blackmagic had a very similar concept to ours.
You'd have to go back on some of my videos but the designs are there.
@@AltCine Ah got ya, thanks for the update!
Cannot wait for CinePI, already planning on using it for a feature length later this year once my build is finished!
You guys always impressed. Job well done
Thank you George, appreciate that my friend.
Very very exciting stuff ahead for you guys in 2025!! I'm along for the ride 🥳
That thing is badass!!!
Thank you, we think so too 💪🏾
Well done!
Thank you.
Man this is wonderful news!! ❤🔥
What a sick gift for the Christmas season! Brilliant work 🔥🔥
Thank you 🙏🏾 we can't wait to show the next 2 camera's now.
BRAVO AltCine 👏 🤩
🌞 genius vision 🌞 superb realization. 🌞Respect 🙌 for the monumental effort required to take whats imagined in the mind and manifest it in the physical world!
Respect man, love this and glad the work is appreciated. Now we just need to make this mainstream 😅🙏🏾 it'll be fine though... we're sure of it.
So cool! V3 should have flush or recessed buttons on top instead of raised - I’m sure that’s a totally new feat to solve but you guys are the one’s to do it!
Thank you. Yeah for CinePi we will definitely do something like that.
I gotta do a live stream soon so I can get a bit more feedback before we start the printing process. We have to do it soon because we're almost ready to roll.
Thanks for the update, Merry Christmas to you and Simone!
Merry Christmas 🎁 thank you for commenting.
Pioneers in the industry. Thanks for your work. About to install your filter on my og.
Thanks Colin, best of luck with filter and thank you for purchasing 🙏🏾
Marrry Christmas. Hearing more about this is the best gift I could have asked for. Excited to see more about it and how to build this.
Hi Mark, merry Christmas.
This build is very complex and after tearing down the camera, you're literally building a whole new camera from scratch.
This is why we want to replied this with CinePi. Higher reayfor those that do want 4k but a very simple build.
@ makes sense. Both seem like fun builds honestly. Love what you do. This is what this community is about. The creativity and drive. Love it so much!!!
Amazing. I need this!
Thanks man. After CinePi we may make a few more.
Awesome work chaps hats off to you for all you have done in 2024 and best wishes for 2025!
Thank you 🙏🏾 Happy Christmas and hope you have a great 2025 too. Definitely going to be an exciting year in filmmaking.
So proud of you man! You and the gang are such a motivation to progress and advance! The new Eclipse looks stunning and I'm so hyped for the CinePi😍
Nice one brother, thank you for all the likes on RUclips & Instagram. Really appreciate it.
Take my money now!!!!
@@andremalcolm_studio hopefully you can hold it for the CinePi. Gonna be exciting to have this similar build but 4k.
@@AltCineI use the new G2 for live streaming and some filming for tattooing. I can’t wait to use the eclipse
You guys are legends
Thank you my brother. We appreciate your kind words.
Happy Holidays! Looking forward to your next steps in 2025. 👍🏻
Seasons Greetings brother and thank you
I’m seriously waiting for the cinepi
@@shueibdahir yo brother, we're closing in on that.
CinePi Aurora is what I’m most intrigued by. Been enjoying this journey Cole, keep it up!!
Yeah that one is going to be special...baby steps first though.
Thanks for the comment brother.
I am proud of you guys.
Thank you so much 🙏🏾
Brother congratulations 🎉🎉🎉 I remember when I came across your channel a few years back, and what you did had me wanting to get into video but I didn’t have the budget… and then you pull out the EOS M and I was sold! I’ll be on the lookout for this project because I rather support something that was built with us members of this community in mind, and not just pushing newer and better like everyone else (camera companies)
Thank you so much brother and for still being here.
We always think this cinema game is about the pro's, who's got the best camera or making the most money but there's a bigger community outside of this.
Yes I do buy cameras often as it's my work and hobby but I know there's people who just like to capture everyday stuff and make shorts and how cool would it be to do it on a nice cine cam, self upgradeable with breaking the bank😁
The CinePi project will be very interesting
such a beauty!
with some awesome aces up it's sleave !
impressiv work
Thank you very much! A very good test and example of what's to come. We actually want people to build their own high end cinema cams so I'm really hoping the pi project is a success.
damn Bravo!............this is exactly what the cinema world needs, grass root development!👍🏾😎
Thanks man and yeah...Grass roots is where a lot of exciting stuff happens 🙌🏾
Amazing what you've been able to do, the Eclipse is a dream of a camera! I hope to see lots of BTS pics of them in action, and can't wait to see the CinePi!!
Thanks Alex, definitely more than a basic rehouse but was worth the investment.
CinePi will take all this to the next level 🙌🏾
Very cool, and bravo for taking the initiative. Let’s see this grow.
Cheers brother, you have the right vision on this 🙌🏾 it's not even about this camera...it's what we learned in the process.
Thanks again, your few words really made me smile.
ACC looking brilliant keep up the great work
Thank you! Cheers! Really appreciate that 🙌🏾
This is a must buy 🔥
Thank you 🙏🏾🙏🏾 the CinePi will be on this level...just smaller.
Merry Christmas my dear friend and congratulations on another wonderful year 🎉❤ hope you enjoy your time together and enjoy the new year! We will meet one day hopefully 🤞
Merry Christmas brother and that would be so awesome 🙏🏾
Definitely my favorite Christmas Present this year you picked the perfect time to make this announcement. 👍👍👍
Hey Chris, hope you're having a good Christmas and thank you so much.
@AltCine Fantastic work! Will there be a full frame Lumix option?
Thank you very much!
Our next step is going to be the CinePi, we’ll see what happens after. Definitely stay tuned🙏
Thank you. There won't be I'm afraid. The Arri will be the last conversion although we are considering the Fuji Xm5.
The CinePi is the main focus because we don't want to use other brands hardware anymore.
great work. it looks really really good.
Thank you so much, appreciate that man.
Smashing it out of the park once again. Awesome stuff. I did not quite understand the Arri reference at the end - nice cliffhangers. Good to see you in your element ❤from muggy Kuala Lumpur
The Arri reference will be a suprise;)
Cheers brother 🙌🏾
Not speaking about you but sometimes we have to do things to show people how far we can go.
The Eclipse is more like a test camera, we gained tons of experience building this and it was basically a test to see how things work.
It'll all make sense once you see the Arri.
Ps, you can always come to London and sit with me in the cold 😅
Great job, thanks for all that creativity and that spirit of wanting to share with all those looking for alternatives in film cameras... I continue and have faith, waiting for an alternative for my bmpcc 4k. Hahaha blessings to all
Thank you for stopping by and leaving a comment. Blackmagic are awesome but we just wanted something that was a bit easier to work with.
It's all good training for the cams we're currently building.
Super hyped Cole! 💪🎥
Yeah brother, it's got to get so interesting the next couple months.
Respect brother
🔥🔥🔥🔥 Lets go! Hopefully this inspires some developers to make better and faster upscalers 😂
😂 yeah. Tbh the Arri & CinePi are both 4k but the image from the micro still holds up great.
i am waiting to buy this camera when can i buy it i am from suriname
Thank you for your interest bro. It'll take time to produce more because the build is complex.
I oversimplified it in this video but it really is a complete rebuild and we could only do a handful.
The CinePi will be the one to look out for.
Rad rad rad! You guys are inspiring ❤️🔥 Keep doing what you do 🎞️
Thank you brother, we really hope the end goal of CinePi is as well recieved.
Looking forward to see what you can do with a CinePi
Yeah that'll be a good launch. Think we may have to do a live soon, just to get some information on what people want in it. We have everything sorted but we might get some good ideas.
Merry Christmas my great friend 🎄🎅
Merry Christmas brother, hope everything is well with you and the family 🙏🏾
Good stuff bro
Appreciate it man, thank you.
Literally everything I’d ever want in a canera
Awesome. We will try get as much of this into CinePi as possible. We will start with a basic build first though...gotta make it easy for everyone to build.
Can’t wait to see the negative reviews from purchasers on YT posting screenshots of the messages. Seriously tho, this endeavour was groundbreaking. Also, sick beats . Who did the loop?
Yeah there's always one 😅 this is why the CinePi project must be DIY.
Thanks man, most of the music was from an audio website that NEOGRAY uses, mine is from RUclips library.
Awesome video as usual Brotha! I was just wondering if you've ever made a FLIR camera? all of the Thermal cameras that are out there shoot at extremely low quality and was wondering if you had ever built one and if not, I think a 4k Thermal camera build would be pretty cool! Keep up the good work and I wish you a prosperous year!
Thank you so much. A high resolution thermal camera would be impossible for us.
To achieve even 1080p would require an insanely large sensor and expertise beyond our capabilities.
It would be amazing if we could make a small high Res one...I'd be a millionaire overnight 😁
@ if anyone can do it I’m sure you can! Even converting one of those thermal guns into something that even remotely resembles a camera would be cool
@@kept_infocus3274 The highest resolution infrared camera available to the public is the Flir T1020 with a shy price of 50k dollars. The same sensor is being used by the military so its basically as good as it gets.
Your website link in the description would make a lot of sense :)
@@alexandergeuze4689 oh damn, of course. Thank you
you didn't talk about the sensor at all in the specs part. Is the V2 just a blackmagic mini with a housing built around it as well?
The V2 has all the internal parts replaced along with the screen bringing in some new features. So its the more developed version of the first Eclipse, this means its the same camera being used with the same sensor. I would argue that its a bit more than a housing built around it tough🙏
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
You need to come up with a BMPCC4K conversion since there are so many out there.
I actually did start a p6k build with Filmatura in 2023 but we didn't carry on our partnership.
Simon and I really want to do a camera from the ground up and the Eclipse was great testing ground.
What are the environmental specs? And any internal weather protection?
We tried to make it as weather sealed as possible, all the buttons have rubber rings around them, the display is sealed to the top plate along with the pogo pins. This makes it do pretty well even in rain as the top won’t let water in. The problem is the sides, having two vents for intake and outlet does not allow weather sealing. The ports have the same rubber rings around them on the inside but you would still have to be careful with the vents. I say a light rain won’t hurt.
@simon-altcinecam any idea of how low we can go with operating temps?
@@Premier-Media-GroupI will be testing that in Iceland early 2025 but because we will have the CinePi ready and which is more important...I might take that instead.
We shall see but either way, a video will be uploaded.
@AltCine and all the best for the CinePi project! Definitely going to be a kick-ass product!
Guys, can I ask you a question? Why didn't you use a BMCC 2.5K camera as a base? After all, this is a much more advanced camera, but with the same sensor.
Hi mate, yeah that might have actually been easier and the added bonus of SSD but despite the image I showed of the micro with the screws, ports etc...we actually had to remove most of the micro housing to make the camera this size.
We tried to do the p6k before this but the camera ended up so large due to the circuit boards it wasn't worth it.
You definitely have a valid question but yes, it would have ended up quite large.
Nice concept, hope it comes to market soon but that battery choice is a no no. Should have gone for v mount.
Thank you and I totally understand that. We never really designed this one for mass production, it's impossible but early this year we said we'd make a limited number...the CinePi is the real goal.
I chose NPF as it's what I prefer and to me it was no different than using BPU on my FX6. I do have a v-mount adapter but I also understand that v-mount on cine cams is preferable.
what is the sensor?
1080p dual gain that records raw & ProRes.
ARRI & Cinipi are 4k
"Doing the drawings and rendering was the easy part" 😂🤪🎯
You caught that 🤣🤣
For the love of God, take my Money !!!!
Hopefully you'll be as impressed with the CinePi, that's the real goal and it'll give you the options to have the camera or OS that suits you.
That new company, I will not mention any names needs to pay you a boat load of money
I think we could really have supported them in certain areas.
What is this about a new Arri coming?
The Eclipse (although fully operational) is a test camera. We ripped the whole thing apart just to rebuild it, to gain knowledge for a proper CinePi camera.
Most people need to 'see' in order to visualise properly and the Arri will do that.
We get a lot of people trying to diminish what we're doing...even since the canon M-Lite so it's best just to show physical working products so people get the idea.
@@AltCine I understand. It's been my dream since getting a cheap Arri Alexa to replace the metal parts with carbon fiber. It would be great if you're working on something like that.
Why not use bmpcc 6k
@@gwm-btdbattlesagar.ioandmo9988 you'd have to go back to some of my videos from a year ago but we already discussed this. In a nutshell...the internals are too big which would have made the camera the same size as Ursa and increase the cost by a lot.
This was a training project for us for CinePi, we don't really have a desire to make modified Blackmagics anymore.
🎥 I have to question the wisdom of putting the menu monitor and buttons on the top.
Where would you have put them?
@@AltCine That is a leading question, depending on who is asking but since for you I killa de bull I will tell you. I would put them where I have access to them when the camera is on sticks and the lens is at standing eye height and taller. That would mean for them to be on the smart side of the camera. Now we know from experience that the buttons on the BMD micro and studio cameras are a pain because one cannot see them when one needs to operate them and they happen to be on the front, dumb side of the camera. Monitor and buttons are good on the top for hand held and sitting interviews but for anything where the lens is at eye height and above, it becomes an issue of needing to have a "man maker" or short ladder to see the menu screen and access to buttons. Be kind to vertically challenged camera operators.
love what you are doing, but also don't really get the point of doing this on a very old sensor. Dual gain technology was a thing when this camera was released, it's not something special nowadays. I used an OG on my last film, and the image quality man, is often disappointing (yes, I know how to expose this camera!). A lot of unwanted noise, grid pattern in low light, limited dynamic range (compared to the 4K at least one stop lower). The BMPCC 4K made a lot more sense to be modified, given more option (including a 2.6K mode with a 8ms rolling shutter and much much better lowlight performance). I think you are great and kind people, love what you are doing, don't want to sound too harsh but just pushing you investing energies into something more useful, given the amazing achievements you are reaching from a technical standpoint. Best wishes
Dual Gain technology is still special. There are only a few number of sensor having this technology implemented and most of them is in Arri cameras. The industry changed over to Dual Native ISO which is not an in sensor level technology so its easier for manifacturers to produce. I think the works of Neogray Films sums up pretty well the image quality of this camera and how capable it still is. I won’t comment much on dynamic range as both the OG and 4k in this case claims to have 13 stops. Both of them try to achieve this differently and this is where the speciality of this sensor shines. It has an organic image profile. Since the production of the Pocket 4k Blackmagic switched over to Sony sensors. The 4K for example has an IMX294, i don’t think that it has anything special compared to the Fairchild one other than more resolution. All this can come down to personal taste so the more accurate answer to your question is that we liked it this way.
@@simon-altcinecam I tend to disagree. Sensor technology has come long way forward. Every sensor technology has to be related to each sensor limitation. Dual gain technology made sense in early CMOS developments, not nowadays. Have a look at Canon C70 vs Canon C80 comparison. Canon C70 has a great dual gain technology (kind of) but Canon C80 has not, yet you get a better image out of the C80, cleaner shadows and same dynamic range. To be fair, Fairchild sensor were great, in particular the one on the BMCC 2.5K which has higher bitrate and can recover highlight fantastically, although rolling shutter was quite bad. But I find the Fairchild sensor on the BMPCC OG and the BMCC OG very disappointing. Yes they give an organic image, but nothing you can't reach nowadays with basically every camera on the market. Also, the sensor is only a part of the story. I think gyro data on the BMPCC 4K is quite revolutionary for handheld footage and other option you can activate in post, such as mitigate the rolling shutter (partially). There is this amazing story we tell us on Fairchild sensor which makes no sense nowadays. Even the CinePI smokes any Fairchild out of the water. But let me be clear: I appreciate your work.
@@MrDavidemarI get it, although I do love the organic look of Fairchild...I've also been impressed with even some modern 8 but cams in the right settings.
Regarding the ECLIPSE, we never made this to be a success. Think of this as test run in order to gain the knowledge we need to put into the CinePi.
We could have went directly to CinePi but we've torn down quite a few cameras to see what's possible.
The first one was the canon M-Lite which was a very basic rehousing. The Eclipse went far beyond that to a full electronic rebuild and the insights were fantastic.
Now we're putting the simplicity of the M-lite with he complexities of ECLIPSE in making a camera that hopefully most people can build, hardware upgrade and software tweak at home.
I actually like your question, thought provoking & well stated with good examples.
@@AltCine I deeply appreciate that gentlemen like you and Simon can discuss without feeling criticized. Any news about the CinePi/Octopus project? Everything seems abandoned....
Kinda stupid..all this hype and u build a couple and the rest of us can't buy it..what's the point
To show off that u could do it..ok congrats on that..bit as.a product its a joke
It was clearly stated in the first release video. Also we said it many times now and i will say it again, The Eclipse is not our main focus. Its never going to be, its a test run and learning process towards the CinePi which is going to be superior in almost every way possible. I don’t understand how its a “joke as product” when we did not state that its a product. Its a working camera, there has been amazing footage already made with it and probably will make a lot more amazing footage.
Is this a joke?? Depressing.
Why?
Depressing? Next time, they should add balloons and kittens.
What’s depressing?
Can you please explain?
Nearly every company from Microsoft, Apple to Amazon was started in a very low key way and using business models from other companies.
Our end goal is to give people the opportunity to build a high resolution cinema camera at home that's self upgradeable hardware & software.
If that's depressing to you, I think you need to reflect on your mental state of mind.
Wow this is so Crazy, I bought the Extension kid for the micro an was so happy with it. Greetings from Germany 🫶🏻 can’t wait for this beast 🥵
@@unfug2433 thank you so much for buying that, you helped us with much needed funds to build the Eclipse and that led to gaining the knowledge to build a pro CinePi.
You probably didn't know but you you guys who bought stuff pushed this forward in record time 🙌🏾