Our First Year in Lisbon | Black Americans Abroad
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2024
- Ric and Halisi officially moved to Lisbon in September 2022, nearly 2-3 years before they'd planned to. Initially, the plan was to reach full F.I.R.E. (financial independence, retire early) but circumstances led them to move up the date and move at a lower cost of living. Do they regret that decision? Come with questions and join us for a lively discussion.
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Hi Halii & Rick, I love your channel!!!
We really appreciate your support! It means the world to us!
A lot of times stores have security and they are hired from some private corporation. Usually it's just to garantee that costumers won't steel.
I have seen MORE people stealing here than I have in the US. No one wants to go to the US jail, you may never leave. HOWEVER unlike the US, it's always been food, as opposed to DVD's and other things that people don't need to survive. 🧐
This horrified people that can't grasp the fact that Halisi and Ric are in a country that had slavery, forgets that that was slavery in the USA and that until late '60s of past century, black folks couldn't be sitting in the same spaces as white people and they even couldn't go to the same public toilets! Why do these kind of people embarrass theirselves so much?! Besides that, racism is waaaaay worse in the USA than it is here and if this person really want to verify that, it's so easy to look at the numbers!
🥰 - we've missed you. THANK YOU for you pragmatic words. You are entirely correct. The new form of slavery in the US is called The US Prison System...
@@OurBlackUtopia Thank you for your kind words! Usually I don't watch your videos live, but I watch it in segments, but I always watch those that are in my playlist. Yes, it's a shame... I hope that something changes fast. 😘
Hi Halisi & Ric! Elsa Mota said: "I don't have any question, but I'm here to support your good work!".
She's been our Portuguese tutor for nearly 7 months. 😅
@@OurBlackUtopia Yes, you said that! I hope that Ric is getting better on Portuguese!
🤨 that's all I have to say. 😆
The Jesus statue is called "Cristo Rei" (Cristo means Christ and rei means king). It's in Almada.
Sim, of course Christ the King - I'm a little upset at organized religion right now; so I must be having a mental block. 🤣
Whaaaat? "Champagne"?! What don't you drink a "Vinho do Porto" (Port Wine)?! Or a "Licor Beirão"?! 😊
Ric LOVES Port which we could not find in Spain. But what is Licor Beirão? I just tried the Ginginha (spelled right?) for the first time last weekend.
@@OurBlackUtopia I was joking around and I pretended that I was shocked because you didn't drink portuguese wines! I didn't understand that you were talking about the time you spent in Spain! Licor Beirão is wonderful! I don't know how to say "licor" in English, but it's a very sweet and a bit more alcoholic drink. Usually it's served in a tiny glass. "Beirão" means from Beira, which is in N-S in the center and W-E it's in the east of Portugal (Beira Alta e Beira Baixa), near Spain. Try "Licor Beirão" and "Brandy Mel": it's great! "Mel" means 🍯. They are both strong and I rarely drink alcohol, but try to drink just a tiny bit at a time. You spelt "Ginginha" right! If you go to Óbidos (a small village near Peniche - about 100km North from Lisbon), try to drink Ginginha from a chocolate cup: you can ask to be served in a chocolate cup: it's absolutely delicious and Óbidos is great, I go there sometimes in the summer since I was little! 🙂 Oh, I forget to say: sometimes I cook chicken chic (Idk how it is called in the USA, we call it "frango" and chicken it's "galinha". I think that "frango" is way better!) with Brandy Mel and it's delicious! 😛
Hi Halisi! Hi Ric! Happy Birthday, fellow portuguese!
THANK YOU! That was the fastest year ever - but if feels like HOME 💕
@@OurBlackUtopia I'm sorry, I intended to put "congratulations" instead of "birthday"! 😉
I missed so much the Cafe culture in the States
Come on back to Europe - it's calling your name. 🥰
I have for the past 6 weeks 😊. My husband told me ( I was surprised) we should have done it earlier. He is loving it.
He runs to the beach every day and is not bored. Anyway, we are still on the honeymoon as they say I walk to the beach every morning.
We are happy to be here
Re:HSA
I think you can use your HSA money abroad if you're using it for something medically necessary (no plastic surgery for example). The IRS cares about what you have done not where you have it done. My husband looked at the IRS publication a few months ago because we were wondering what happens to the HSA money we have saved when we move out of the country.
Hmmm, that's good to know. I haven't worked for a corp that offered HSA in decades so it sounds like the rules have changed. Thanks for watching and adding to the convo. 🥰
School books are free to everyone, you only need to buy the supplies and workbooks. Lunch is €1.45. At the schools, my kids are their papelaria sell the school supplies way cheaper. They have a free physiologist if needed, my son has 5 hours a week of PLNM Portuguese language no materna.
I pay a Portuguese tutor for my daughter because of the area she chose. Their texts are easier than the others and the teachers help a lot
The food is very good and warm.
They both love their teachers
They go to a public school.
Kids are very resilient and if they have good family support they can make it.
We travel the world and we always put them in a local school,from Asia,USA, and Europe
Hope it helps
Ana, thank you so much - this helps a lot. 🥰. School books are free to everyone in the States too, it's just some school districts do not have enough books for everyone...🥺
Really, the books are free in the States, my daughter was in a charter school in Colorado Springs and I paid, maybe they didn't have enough
Skyblue from Central Florida
Hey Skyblue, Thank you so much for watching and for adding to the conversation. 💕
Congratulations you two! 🎉🎉🎉
Fingers crossed and thank you so much for watching and for your encouragement. 💕! The PM speaks but parliament has to act and at the end of the day some folks will go out of business if it is 100% eliminated and folks don't understand the consequences.
For those living off of rental income or pensions and some other self-employment it might not make a difference. At our Move 2 Portugal Summit we will have a Portuguese tax expert that will speak on the NHR and who will be affected. 😉
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All PT beaches are public. River banks too, whether properties reach the river banks or not (depending on the characteristics, it can be 10 meters, 30 m or 50 m that are always public). The access can be sometimes made difficult by hotels and resorts (it happens in Algarve...), but it can never be prevented: you are 100% allowed to enter and cross the resort if no other path is available/walkable to reach the beach. Ocean beaches and river beaches (they're great!) can be either guarded or not. If they are guarded, there will be lifeguards, toilet facilities, a cafe/restaurant, parking... If not, it's at your own risk.
Yassss, we love Mexico but that is the one thing that got on my nerve...the private beaches. Thank you, BTW, for the response to Teddy - 🤦🏾♀️. Every country has their issues. The question is whether you FEEL welcome or not. And we feel welcome, we LOVE living in Lisbon
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Obrigada!
As much as I love Ric and Halisi, I wish they could hear themselves sometimes. Is so farfetched that a black person experienced racism in Portugal? Portugal is a racist country. I know that African Americans don't want to accept because they need to believe otherwise. They want to live in Portugal so bad, that they ignore the obvious. Why is that America is so racist, but Portugal isn't? Even though slavery lasted much longer in the Portuguese colonies and they took more African slaves than any other European country? This notion that the Portuguese were nice enslavers is just dead wrong and I wish Halisi would stop implying that. As an African American who lived there and speaks the language, I can assure that Portugal is not paradise for black people. Racism has been leathal in Portugal. Black people do get killed for being black in Portugal.
If the man said he experienced racism and he's leaving, that shouldn't bother you. Stop trying to force Portugal down people"s throat because you have an agenda. Some people won't have to be there for 5 years to see that Portugal doesn't even have opportunities for it's own people. That's why they are desperate to get your money in their banks. They have using black people for centuries.
Learn the language if you love Portugal so much.
I know I'm going to get blocked.
I know in my heart that you are good people, but don't get mad if someone doesn't like Portugal. 2 million Portuguese people are living outside of Portugal.
Happy Anniversary!
Change will only come when we accept that we are not perfect, either. Halisi and Ric tell us about THEIR experience. And it has been a good one in PT. We can not be so bitter about all these mistakes from the past. It is unfair to blame the now living - that are trying to change for the better, and believe me, that have already changed a lot (though there is still a long road ahead) - for their father's mistakes. In (black) Africa there is also racism. In northern Africa they enslave the black migrants. When in SA (mild example) you are from a different (black) tribe you are not treated equal. In Rwanda, they killed each other for ethnic reasons - all black... Do you thing that it is racial heaven there? If it was, black americans would flock there, because being black in the States is hugely different from being black in Europe, Portugal included. Where do you live? In PT, being so bad a country? And you have not yet found a better place? Can you tell me, please, a place on Earth that has no inustice, no racism, no fear, no aggressive people...? I agree that there is racism in PT, but don't compare it, don't assume so much of what you really haven't experienced. Don't make it worse than it is. Make it better. Be positive. Don't try to be the change with so much bitterness and resentment. Do good. Be good. Peace.
Now Teddy - we NEVER say that anti-blackness and racism are not global...they are! HOWEVER, I have been here for a year I have not read of any mass shootings targeting black neighborhoods, I have not seen nor read about police killing innocent black folks; harassing yes, killing no. If you have articles to the contrary please send me the links: hello@ourblackutopia.com
It's been years. So either they do kill in the dark with no one around and bury the evidence, or NO ONE around has a camera phone. 🧐 I ASK BLACK FOLKS WHO ARE NOT AMERICAN ABOUT THEIR EXPERIENCES WITH THE POLICE AND THEY DON'T COME CLOSE TO THE EXPERIENCES OF EVERY ONE OF THE MALES IN MY FAMILY. NONE HAVE BEEN HELD AT GUN POINT LIKE MY DAD AND MY SON. NONE HAVE BEEN HARASSED DAILY LIKE MY COUSIN. Yes this anecdotal but it is followed up by an extensive search IN PORTUGUESE on police killing of unarmed civilians.
WE DO NOT HAVE AN AGENDA EXCEPT TO SAY THAT AMERICA NEEDS TO FEEL THE PAIN OF AN AFRICAN AMERICAN BRAIN DRAIN. Where you choose to go is up to you. As you know we interview folks who have immigrated to other countries because Portugal is not for everyone.
WE ARE LEARNING THE LANGUAGE AS YOU VERY WELL KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TAKING LESSONS SINCE JANUARY. WE JUST HAD LESSONS TODAY. Do not discount our intelligence, consciousness, nor critical thinking.
The question that every Black American needs to ask themselves before moving to another country is not is it racist. OF COURSE IT IS RACIST THE GLOBE IS ANTI-BLACK-AMERICAN. Not anti-black BUT ANTI-BLACK-AMERICAN - I HAVE HAD TOO MANY SNUBS BY AFRICANS FROM THE CONTINENT NOT TO SAY THAT THE WHOLE GLOBE IS ANTI-BLACK-AMERICAN. THEY STEAL OUR ART FORMS, COPY THEM, MONETIZE THEM, AND THEN CALL US THUGS AND CRIMINALS ...INCLUDING AFRICANS. SO WHERE DO WE GO? WHERE DO WE GO? WE WERE STOLEN FROM OUR LANDS, STRIPPED OF OUR LANGUAGE, LEFT WITH NO WHERE TO CALL HOME AND NO CULTURE EXCEPT WHAT WE COBBLED TOGETHER. MOST ARE SO FULL OF SELF-LOATHING THEY CANNOT GET OUT OF THEIR OWN WAY.
So as long as I am on this earth I will continue to tell my people that there is a better way and part of their reparations can be taking advantage of the benefits offered and the privileges, that come with being American, WHIICH I FREELY ADMITTED IN THIS VIDEO ADDING THAT NOT ALL BLACK IMMIGRANTS HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCE. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?!?!?
You say that you speak the language, so I'm gonna reply in Portuguese. A Halisi nunca disse que não havia racismo em Portugal. O facto de Portugal ter sido um país com bastante escravidão não tem nada a ver com Portugal hoje em dia! Se quer fazer comparações sem sentido, pense bem como os pretos viviam nos EUA nos anos '60s do século passado! Se diz que os portugueses são racistas por causa daquilo que se passou há séculos, então pense naquilo que se fazia no SEU país, há 55 anos! A Guerra Colonial que precedeu a queda da ditadura, em 1974, obrigou muitos soldados a irem para a guerra e muitos achavam que já não fazia sentido nenhum haver colónias, mas vivíamos numa ditadura! Os pretos que são mortos pela polícia são dos bairros sociais quando há tiroteios por causa do pessoal da droga. Aí a polícia por vezes mata pessoas, mas tanto mata pretos, como brancos! Aqui, não vê a polícia de trânsito mandar parar um carro só porque o condutor é preto, nem matá-lo só porque sim! Polícias corruptos e agressivos infelizmente há em todo o lado: há rufias que se aproveitam da profissão que têm para fazer porcaria, mas isso não é a população em geral! Além disso, um americano dizer que em Portugal há muito racismo, quando no seu país há racismo quase que institucionaizado, seria de rir, se não desse vontade de chorar! Quando fiz quimioterapia havia um velhote preto, praticamente sem-abrigo que, tal como eu, foi tratado, e não pagou um cêntimo, porque aqui ninguém tem de ser rico para não morrer de cancro! Aqui as pessoas têm tratamento de qualidade, enquanto no seu país, quem pode pagar muito, tem tratamento de qualidade, quem não pode pagar tanto, tem uma terapia menos eficaz e mais tóxica, e quem não é rico, tem a casa hipotecada para pagar o tratamento, ou morre, por não ter dinheiro para se tratar! Sei do que falo, porque já alguns americanos mo disseram! Se não gosta de Portugal, que lhe faça bom proveito, mas vá ser Kevin para outro vídeo, por favor!
@@martacancela7681É isso mesmo!😊
@@OurBlackUtopiaThank you once again for the kind words and the love for my country, that's yours, now! 😊
Conrats, my wife and I will be in Lisbon Saturday. We'll be there 3 weeks, until 28 Oct!
Thank you so much and thank you for watching. 👀 Make sure you watch our video no how to get around Lisbon prior to coming. ruclips.net/video/f7FTsRvBp6s/видео.htmlsi=6ul5X12b0OY4lJYs
When's the summit again?
Hey Kevin, the summit is virtual and is the 3-5 of November and the replays will be available no less than one month after the summit. 🇵🇹 Move to Portugal Virtual Summit: bit.ly/Move2Portugal
@@OurBlackUtopia okay, got you. Thank you for your response and time.
You're welcome.
I’m about to be on the struggle bus getting up early for the summit, but I’m gonna do it! 😩😂
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"Aurora" means Dawn, both in Portuguese and Spanish.
and in English it is celestial so definitely related. 🥰. For awhile in Denver Colorado it meant "bad neighborhood" 😳
Its been a blessing to have met you guys !!! please keep inspiring
Hey there, it was great meeting you as well. Let's get together soon.
I watched a show last night...most of the show! Norman Reedus RIDE! He was in Portugal meeting some of the locals. It was really interesting. Apparently, there are laws that in effect that help people who have drug addiction problems. Instead of putting them in jail, they get treatment! This got me wondering what other social programs and laws are in the country that actually HELP people instead of punish them for being sick or needing help. He also spoke to some of the locals who are not very enthusiastic about so many people moving to Portugal.
The whole show was very educational. The different towns he traveled to, the roads! He rides a motorcycle around the world and Portugal is not very accommodating to bikes...if you didn't know! Lol.
I was switching channels so I didn't see the show in it's entirety but I recorded it and I will be watching it later. Portugal is beyond beautiful! Since seeing the show, I am thinking about it a lot more.
Thank you Halisi and Ric!!! Portugal is amazing and I would not have known that had i not found your channel.
Yah! Portugal is amazing and most folks are not unhappy about the influx of immigrants; that's been our experience. They tell us that they needed us. However, what is true today, may not be true tomorrow. So if Portugal is on your list you may want to move up your timeline to ASAP. Find that 100% remote job and get here. 🥰
The government here just passed a law that caps the increase rate to 2%. So landlords can only raise it up to 2% and not the full inflation rate.
Okay, thank you for the info!!! 🥰
I keep missing the live show. When does it come on . I will be going to Montserrat 🇲🇸 November 7th to scope out the land. Hope to move next year. Renting my home first instead of selling. Leaving the home for the children.
Hey Carolyna, thank you so much for watching and for your question. 💕 We go live every Sunday at 3:30 ET and every other Thursday at 5:00 ET. We rented our homes as well and will make a sell decision based upon the next election...
Thanks, you guys are so encouraging. I am going to scout out my island to see if we can rent a home for 1 year. The stock market is not doing well but I am hoping to live on my 403 B until SS and pension kick in in 5 years. My husband is retired from Canada, so he also gets 2 for 1 for his Canadian dollars . Would like to give an interview after living there. Thanks again.
Well well, keep us posted on your journey. We interviewed Zoe of the Exodus Collective. You can catch that here: ruclips.net/user/liveYcjiyl5eFVM. Here are some resources that might help your journey: bit.ly/OBUresources
Congratulations on your first year in Portugal! I can't always watch live but I do check in whenever I can. Looking to move to Portugal next year before the election.
It is astounding who the front runners are....I'm so happy I don't have to deal with that on a daily basis. 🥰
@@OurBlackUtopia One is a real threat to democracy and could possibly be a convicted felon by election day.
Did the Russians know back in the 90s when they re-elected Putin that that was the last real election they would have for the foreseeable future?
Thank you for answering my question.
Any time! Here are some other resources that might help your journey: bit.ly/OBUresources