HELLO RETRO machines !. i have this , can i use it to make a retro gamer pc? MOTHERBOARD TYAN + DUAL PENTIUM II 266MHZ . can i change the 266 with 450s ? http2.mlstatic.com/pentium-ii-dual-retro-coleccion-D_NQ_NP_858505-MLA25048643898_092016-F.webp
Our first computer was a win98, pentium II 450 MHz. Cost $3000, new. I upgraded it as much as I could with winXP, 1 GHz pentium III, 512 MB RAM, DSL modem, etc. Kept using it for 10 years and then sold the tower for $100. People would make fun of it today, but it pretty much did everything modern computers can do...except you just had to go eat lunch or do something else while it got heavy duty tasks accomplished (video, audio editing, etc)
My first pc was a pentium 233Mhz and a Voodoo2. Age 15, saved money long time and asked my parents for so long to get it. SLI voodoo2 and pentium 2 450, CD writer that was insane back then. Eventually I got myself a JVC cd writer 2x and for me and my friends was a revelation! Thanks for the video!
Hi Guys. first time i've ever commented on youtube. Anyway my first computer i ever bought (mum bought it - i was 13) was in 1998. It was a Compaq Presario 2294 which had an AMD k6-2 350 - 6GB HDD - 4MB shared Video - 14 inch Monitor - Windows 98. It was $2500. Wouldn't even play Daikatana. Mind you since then i have never moved to Intel. All AMD builds since then. Current machine is a FX6300 (4.3Ghz) - 16GB DDR3 1600mhz - 1TB HDD - Windforce 760GTX. Waiting on AMDs new chips for my next upgrade. Have a great day.
Great video, Victor. Those times when PC gaming was something all of us wanted, but only a few could afford, reminding me the 486 I had for almost 10 years when I was younger. Now, I'm writing this from a i7 4790 xD
Back in 98, all I had was a Cyrix GX 166mhz computer.. My friends all had Pentium CPU's so basically until 1999 (when I decided to build my own), I couldn't play anything 3D, (could barely play Duke 3D). I use to drool over the graphics cards reviewed in PC Gamer magazine.
Thanks to this video, it convinced me to build high end year 2004 PC. Specs: DFI K8T800PRO-ALF socket 754 AMD Athlon 64 3200 + 2.2GHz socket 754 (NewCastle) 2x1GB Transcend DDR400 CL3 2x WD Raptor 740GD 10k rpm in RAID 0 WDC 1200JB 7200 rpm (IDE) Samsung Spinpoint 80GB 7200 rpm (IDE) ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256MB (AGP 8X) Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (PCI) Scythe Andy Samurai Master + Arctic Cooling MX-2 Chieftec A-90 GDP-550C Fractal Design Define R4 TSSTCorp SH-S222A (IDE) Sony 3.5" floppy disk drive (IDE) D-Link DFM-562IS 56K modem (PCI) TP-Link TL-WN851ND WiFi adapter (PCI) 2x Fractal Design 140 mm + 1x Scythe SlipStream 120mm 800 rpm Windows XP Professional 32bit SP3 Not the ultimate, but truly something. ATI Radeon can reach Core clock 540 MHz/Memory clock 570 MHz. CPU's limits are unknown, because at 224 CPU clock system BSODed and SATA HDD data corrupted, so now I have to reinstall Windows. I named computer as Athlonium 64.
Dude, I played so many hours of need for speed 3 back in the late 90's. But one of my favorite computer games was tank wars on DOS floppy disk, so much fun when I was 5.
+95TurboSol the equivallent of Tank Wars now is Pocket Tanks, still fun to play with mates. :) And of course Worms Armageddon from gog.com (gog stands for good old games.)
This build reminds very much of one of my old computers that I actually built around this time and still use today for retro gaming, it is fun to see you hit the spot this well. Well done
I wanted this setup so much in 1998. If I just had the money... This is the dream system for Unreal 1 1998. Especially when paired with a SoundBlaster Live! and surround speakers. "Unreal delivers this cutting-edge realism on computers using a Pentium 166 or higher. And for those of you lucky enough to have a Pentium II, MMX technology or a video accelerator, the Unreal realms will become your reality."
Amazing build, brings back nostalgia like nothing else. I'm blown away by the attention to details down to the tiniest things - like the real HDD instead of CF/SD-to-IDE adapters, and cable management. Also camera dolly shots are simply amazing. Only thing missing from total perfection is the internal ZIP drive placed under the floppy. :) Thank you very much for the video, man! As retro PC enthusiast and collectioner myself, I take off my hat to you, sir!
Awesome video, good job! :) I'm 40 yrs old and started to use(and love) computers 31 yrs ago. In 1998 this really was a dream build. That time i can bought only a waaay worse machine. And always jealous when i saw someone who can buy PII and two voodoo2, that performance amazed me then. :)
Those parts back then were indestructible...you could break your fingers but couldn't break parts...Great idea mate! I still can't throw away my 3dfx Voodoo. Keep it up!
man you deserve so many more subs. this is probably the most well done retro build video I've seen on youtube. I absolutely enjoyed every moment. I have a lot of old computer stuff going back to the mid 90s. I enjoy playing some of the old titles on my updated i7 6700k with gtx 1070 but it's just not the same as it was back then. I believe I'm going to have to do some retro builds and resurrect some of my old pc gear. I still have my Diamond 3dfx voodoo 2 video card but never did get a second one for sli. it was something I always wanted to try. now that I'm 40 maybe it's time to go back and relive some of that fun times.
What a fantastic video, I love your editing :) and the build is very nice. My mind would have exploded playing with this in 98 into the year 2000! Dungeon keeper, Diablo 2, Porshe Unleashed, Halflife, Quake, Unreal, man the hits go on an on...
Reminds me of mine from back then. 640mb ram, p3 450(slot 1) over clocked to 700mhz, 440bx mobo, soundblaster audigy, creative labs tnt2 ultra, voodoo2 sli(left them in for certain glide games), and win 2k. Good ol' days for sure.
I am doing a similar project, but I made it more versatile, since I wanted to play older games too. I made it in a way to change multipliers and speed. Motherboar: P3B-f rev. 1.04 CPU: PII 400 from April 1998. PIIs made up to August 1998 were multipliers limited, hence if you take a PII 400 you have multipliers up to 4x. Video: being checked the best video card, probably PCI, currently I am using an S3 Virge. 3-D Accelerator: Voodoo 2 SLI - 3D Vulcan 2 (12MB) - 110 MHz Ram (vs the 90 MHz default). Ram: 256 MB PC133 7 ns. HDD: 80 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM - UDMA133. Audio: Sound Blaster Awe 64 Gold. I set the FSB to 133 and I just change the multiplier from 2 to 4 in the bios. I can hence go from 133 to 533 MHz. A better idea could be to have a MB with jumpers and attach the 2 or 4 multiplier change to the turbo button on the case.
Great video! I am doing retro builds for years and i love to see people are sharing this hobby. Recently i made Hi end Pentium 1 PC. Pentium 233 MMX, 256MB RAM, MB P5i430 Titanium 1, Voodoo RUSH, HDD CF 4GB, Zip 100mb,Floppy 1,44, LG DVD drive, Sound Blaster AWE64 value, Win95. Keep up the good work, you are inspiring.
Cool build! You only made 1 mistake which slows down your system a bit. the Intel 430TX chipset can only cache 64mb of memory. So if you use more then it will be slower then using 64mb :) I have had a Pentium1 166mmx and Dual P1 233mmx both with 128mb 72pin memory. But that was on the 430HX chipset which can cache 512mb mem :)
In 2001 I built an 1.2Ghz Athlon "Thunderbird" PC in that exact case, which also included the same 3Com network card. Watching this video makes me regret recycling the machine a few years ago! Back in 1998, a Voodoo 2 SLI setup would have been my dream. The best I could afford at the time was a Voodoo Banshee, which was slower than a Voodoo 2, but had the advantage of also supporting 2D, (yes kids, back in the Voodoo 2 days you needed separate video cards for 2D and 3D!). Love the video editing and use of music by the way!
In 1998 there was no Fireball lct yet. There time the EX series ran. I had one 10,2GB. :) I had no money for P2-450, so I bought 300A celeron, which run at 504Mhz (112Mhz fsb oc), but one of my friends got lucky, and had one running at 527Mhz (117Mhz fsb), that was an absolute winner. So nostalgic, remember playing there time the Unreal1, lolol! :D
Your videos just keep getting better and better from an editing standpoint Victor, well done sir! Love seeing my fellow 90's PC owners showing off their awesome builds :)
Wow, what a nice build I had always dreamed of putting one of those together, reminds me of those really thick computer part magazine/book that you could pick up at the store's magazine rack and one of the pages in there would have this huge dream build computer. Man thanks for the memories and nostalgia especially the head on the keyboard moment when installing windows 98......... Thanks again
Fantastic! Congratulations for the video quality, directing and script :) The components are top notch and in mint condition. All I can say is RESPECT ! This video will be saved and archived, and shown to my grandsons. Cheers mate !
Remember guys, if you are laughing now at this 1998 PC, pay attention that your i7 6700K GTX1080 32GB RAM PCs for 15 years will be worth $20 for total and ridiculed by your sons.
Well you are maybe right. But the increase of performance over the last 17 years was mindblowing. At the moment you can handle everything very good (not 4K Gaming) with a I5 2500, 8 GB RAM, GTX 680. And that is the high level standard from five years ago. Performance increase after Sandy-Bridge-Generation CPU´s is not comparable if you look at a 1998 PC compared with a 2003 pc.
+Dieter Gerding a Slot A Athlon 650MHz versus an Athlon x2 or Athlon 64? There's a pretty big performance gap there, buddy. 1998-2003 was just as much of a race as it is now, just with more competition. I kind of wish we had more than two or three companies competing, I liked it better when there was more than nVidia and AMD in video chipsets, I almost miss Cirrus Logic and S3 Technologies.
+AIO inc. That is exactly what I wanted to say. The performance gap between a sandy bridge and a skylake cpu is maybe 20-25% at the best. The gap between the two cpu's you chose is much higher. So I doubted, that the increase in speed in the next 15 years will be comparable to the development we saw in the last 15 years.
However a pentium 4 from today wich is 15 years old now (or even a core 2 duo wich is 10 years old), even though they can still perform very well (especially for the core 2) can be found for very cheap nowadays. In fact, I think that CPUs aren't evolving that munch now, but GPUs are still evolving fast imo. Gaming on a full 2008 gaming PC (core 2 quad + 4GB of ram + 2 8800GT in SLI) ? Out of question. Gaming on the same computer but with an RX 480 or nvidia's equivalent (or even something a bit slower/cheaper) ? sure !
So much awesomeness in one video... never knew SLI existed back then, even tho I also had a 3DFX accelerator card, where you needed to externally link it to the primary graphics card...This build is cleaner then some of the modern day PC builds I've seen, well done!
Fast forward to 2020 and the prices have soared. Currently seeing the Asus P2B motherboards selling on auction sites for £55+, a single 3DFX Voodoo 2 card is £90+. Crazy stuff!
Yes, tell me about it. I just paid £150 for a voodoo 3. I could have got one a bit cheaper if I waited and went for an auction rather than a buy it now. But this one, unlike many others, was actually shown as working in the listing. I have just tried it paired with my PIII 550Mhz (free!), and Soundblaster Pro 2 (£75) and I am very happy with it. Just wish it cost less to build!
Dude that was badass! I didn't know you were into this kind of stuff. I was thinking about the good old days, looking up old Voodoo GPUs and your MS-DOS build came up.
Ya I think the AGP port amd TNT would have been faster than using this SLI setup. Albeit this is cool. Did the chipset not alow another 64MB stick? Also a 7200 rpm drives were around then along with the SCSI 1000rpm drives. A raid controller and dvd rom and encoder would of been nice on thus build as well.
+Happy Tylerienmam Networks - better take a Pentium II with intel BX chipset if it doesnt have to be the k6-2 out of sentimental reasons. the boards/drivers are so buggy and not stable, its often a nightmare to get it up working right.
Gosh, this brings so many memories... It was around this year that I had my first proper computer: a Pentium II 350, a Voodoo 3 3000 AGP with 32mb of VRAM, and 128mb of RAM! Motocross Madness never looked so smooth!! haha
+djmhyde Nope Voodoo 2 was the first card I believe. But NVIDIA bought 3DFX and then brought out their own SLI cards around 2004. AMD brought out CrossFire cards in 2005. So the concept has been around for a fair while now. The funny thing is when you break it all down the basic parts are still the same.
+djmhyde +blankname1984 In fact SLI and Crossfire were both born out of 3DFX. To avoid bankruptcy, 3DFX was sold to nVidia in late 2000. The majority of the engineering and design team working on 3DFX's Rampage, remained with the project to work on what became the GeForce FX series. Most of those who did not find jobs at nVidia, found employment at ATi (acquired by AMD) and brought their knowledge with them to assist in the creation of the X series of graphics cards, and form their own version of SLI known as Crossfire. In 1997, ATi acquired Tseng Labs' graphics assets, which included 40 engineers. Now if you don't know anything about Tseng Labs, they produced some of the best 2D video cards in the years just before 3D graphics. Most notably, the ET4000 and ET6000. (I still have my ET6000 in it's original packaging.) In 2000 ATI acquired ArtX, which engineered the Flipper graphics chip used in the Nintendo Gamecube. ATi had more than their share of driver issues in those early years, perhaps in part because 3DFX's best software engineers were acquired by nVidia. Prior to 3DFX's acquisition however, ATi was not really one of the fastest or most exciting graphics cards on the market. The main reason they survived at all up to that point was because of a deal they had with Apple to supply graphics cards for the MacIntosh. All iMac G3s came with a variation of the ATi Rage 128, for example. Even it's predecessor, the Power Macintosh G3 desktop, came out with an ATI 3D Rage II+ or ATI 3D Rage Pro. The reason being that the 3D Rage was the first 2D/3D combo card on the market and the timing was right for Apple who were delivering a new product. Here's a list of some of the first 3D graphics cards on the market: 3D Labs Permedia 3DFX Voodoo Graphics ATi Rage and Rage II Matrox Millennium Matrox Mystique Number Nine Imagine Series nVidia NV1 Rendition Verite V1000 S3 ViRGE 3D VideoLogic PowerVR Series 1 Of those, the most interesting at the time were 3D Labs, 3DFX, Rendition, and VideoLogic's PowerVR. PowerVR now resides in many of the most popular smart phones.
+djmhyde I remember having one of the first SLI setups in around 1997/1998. I bought a 12MB Voodoo2 and a mate of mine bought 2, but his system only had a single PCI slot so he let me blag one for a while.. (not PCI-E, I'm talking bog standard old school PCI (shit and there's even older school than that MCA/ISA/VL-ISA slots anyone??) Yeah, I've been doing this shit a long time :) Running Unreal (the very first game) in 1024x768 on my P2-266 that was running at 400. I later found out that I somehow managed to get an ES (Engineering Sample) 266 which might have been why the thing ran at 400 for a good few years and never batted an eyelid.
Ah, that short time I had the top-of-the-line system, never since. Dell XPS R450, Riva TNT, SLI Voodoo 2s and Turtle Beach surround sound card. My friend bought a system with a slow clone CPU that couldn't keep up with even one Voodoo II. He brought them over, installed and we played Half-Life 1 just as it came out on maxed out settings. As the tram sequence plays for ten seconds, he impatiently says "skip this cutscene!". I move the mouse and walk about the tram. Jaw drops. Probably my favorite system build memory. It didn't hurt that Half-Life 1 turned out to be even better to play than it was to look at! It was a great experience to be a teen, full of wonder, experiencing such a turning point in both 3D accelerator performance and game storytelling all at once. I'll almost certainly never experience that again, both because I have changed, and because the hardware and gameplay changes have become relatively incremental, but that does nothing to take away from how awesome that memory is for me.
+ArcadeGames Heh I've spended once tons of money for an upgrade, celly 300 ( wich i Like beter for games then pentium2. It had smoother fps on my voodoo, i think because of the full speed l2 cache instead of the silly ammount of l2 cache for its time at half speed on the p2's.) To the amd duron 800. It I also bought a nvidia t64 with it.. God what a waste of money was that. Old voodoo3 was alot, alot, alot faster.. BUtThe amd 800 duron blew my mind away with 3x 256 mb ram
Great computere you had there. I was using in 98: Shuttle Hot 569 Pentiumio 233 MMX 64 sdram matrox millenium Orchid Righteous 3D II Sound Balster CT4620 that was awesome. I played a lot of Thief The Dark Project
The amazing thing is people will be doing this in 15 years. "Ultimate 2015 retro PC running on old fashioned Windows 10 with a puny 4.0ghz Intel processor and a meager 16gb of ram and sli gtx 980ti gpus" lol
+Derek Fishel ''Ahh, good old days when we used to play 32 vs. 32 on Battlefield 4 and GTA V Online. Heists were the shit. Kids today with their 128GB RAM, Call Of Duty: Primal Warfare and Battlefield 3547 will never know how much fun we had quickscoping scrubs.''
+Derek Fishel I don't think that the hardware from 2015 will be outdated that fast. Moore's Law will come to a halt after finally the 7nm architecture will be reached. At 6nm a quantum mechanic effect called "Quantum Tunneling" will take place which renders CPUs useless. That means that as soon as the 7nm architecture isn' sufficient enough anymore, the engineers have to come up with a totally new concept about computing. And as long as they can't find a better and cost-efficient concept, the hardware between now and 7nm will be "actual hardware". And just remember how fast Intel advanced to their new Skylake 14nm processing and the roadmap shows that they want to introduce 10nm between 2016 and 2017 and a 7nm architecture between 2017 and 2018. So 2018 the peak will be reached and I guess if you move on to 2018 and think about hardware "from 3 years ago", you won't really have that nostalgia-effect. :) But I guess the nostalgia comes back when the kids in the future will sit at a brand new machine that works totally different than our PCs today and then you want to explain to them that "back in the day, a computer was only able to handle 0's and 1's". I guess it's the same for a teen today when putting the mp3 files on his smartphone you try to explain to them that there was once a time where music was "pressed on vinyl" and you had to clean the vinyl disk before putting it on a turntable..." 2 totally different concepts for one and the same thing...
+Metatr0n Quantum tunnelling wont render CPU's useless that is load of crap, its possible to use quantum tunnelling to our advantage there is already chips made smaller than 1nm so there you go, its quite possible to do.
***** That shows that you know nothing about what quantum tunneling does, nor how quantum tunneling works. Building a transistor and building a CPU are 2 totally different things. If you take a normal CPU and shrink it down to 6nm, the uncertainty principle of the position of an electron will cause the transistors of the CPU to close or open without any signals to tell them to close or open, only because the disappearance and appearance of electrons will make them jump from transistor to transistor. Furthermore, the transistor-types that you mentioned are finFETs and tunnelFETs wich both can be used in a quantum-tunneling environment but both transistors aren't usable on a CPU, since they work on a totally different basis. On top, only because there are smaller transistors, doesn't mean that you can use them on a CPU as mentioned above, and even if you could use them and even if you could fit them on a die, they won't be able to withstand several GHz of frequency. So you either have transistors that fit on a die and can withstand several GHz but can't be used in quantum tunneling environment, or you have transistors that don't fit on a die and can't be used at several GHz but can be used in a quantum tunneling environment. I reckon you learn something about a topic before you start spouting half-knowledge on the net.
Those drives are server stuff and were unaffordable to mortals. This build is more like ultimate consumer part build, not ultimate enterprise level rig.
Nicely edited video. Getting an appropriate PSU for a retro PC is the most difficult thing. While a good modern PSU would cope with the +3.3 V and +5 V requirements, the lack of a -5 V line would be a problem, I imagine? It is required by ISA slots. The question is, would the board even run without a -5 V line if you did not want to use the ISA slots?
It's a direct current voltage not alternating so any ground line that is -5v or higher would work perfectly fine. I honestly don't even know why they rate them at voltages DC has two lines positive and ground.
I love this video, this was basically my setup at the end of grade school and every one of these games are basically my fave, up til my 2000s pc and counter strike took over
The original "SLI" setup.....beautiful. I only had one Voodoo2 card in my machine. My last 3dfx card was the "Voodoo3 3500TV," i've still got it in its original box. And look at that....the "Aopen HX45" PC case, the essence of the 90's (and the HX08)
The choices of hardware are pretty accurate. Buuut.. I wish you had chosen the old classic "3Dfx" logo for your wallpaper (and ergo the YT vid thumbnail) to make a more accurate historical representation, because the official splash screen for all 3Dfx cards (i.e. built in the drivers) until that year had the old/classic one (I had the Banshee in 1998). That newer "3dfx" logo with orange swoosh only came later with Voodoo3 in 1999.
Software-wise I think Directx8.1 were the best choice with win98se.. Also for 3dfx Voodoo3 owners IMPORTANT: latest reference drivers (1.07) are much slower than 1.05 !!!
You have inspired me to build my retro 1998 gaming machine. Just curious about the drivers. Many websites are terrible. Where did you get your drivers? Thanks very much.
Almost nostalgic now these old machines. I still have my two Canopus Voodoo II cards in a box somewhere. Played many of the games shown in the clip. Also enjoyed MS Combat Flight Sim and MS Urban Assualt. I think Quote 2, Unreal Tournament and Half Life was my favourite games. After Half Life I kept updating Counterstrike which used the Half Life engine. Phew memories indeed.
Because of the cache next to the CPU. To save money that made it not into the CPU like the pentium pro but next to it. So they had less failing cpus by making them.
I will never ever forget this Amazing days, 3dfx Most powerful video card ever in does days, hey you really bring me Memories Wow thank you for posting this video, this setup was the most power gaming back in the days, I still remember when the scary Unreal Game can out that shit was scary like hell, but best graphics ever in a PC Game. Thank You take care.
Back then computer hardware was so sexy. You could actually cut yourself with the stuff. Nowadays hardware is nothing but fused mush! The only reason we need big hd space and multi core processors is because of inefficient software and fucking complicated web media and always updating media platform.
+Gud Dergo What are you talking about? You're saying if things were efficient we won't need multi-core processors and other things? Besides, today's hardware is way sexier than it used to be. Old hardware might have the raw, functionalist flare to it, but today's hardware is actually designed to look good. As someone who built computers back then and continues to build systems today, it's much better now than it used to be.
Wow that takes me back to when I used to build those computers so many cpus K6, PENTIUM, C5, K7, 486, 386, PENTIUM PRO, ...what you could do with a 30MB hard drive back then .. now you need at least 30GB to even sniff at Windows 7, 8 or 10!!! Windows 98 & 95 was personally the best OS for me the sucked ones were Vista, Millennium and 8.0. ooops Windows Update !!! 30GB full of off updates you don't need lol ... used to love my 233Mhz IBM C5 or IBM 7Mhz AT 286 system with 512MB and ISA Graphics card !!! that IBM was a heavy computer!!!
I once fit an entire copy of Windows 7 Ultimate on a 12GB drive because I had no other ones to spare and it was noisy but worked fine. Quantum Bigfoot TX if I recall. I kind of miss the competition there used to be on the market in the early 90s. Nowadays you have three choices, integrated nVidia of AMD. Back in 1997, you had: ATi, nVidia, Intel, 3DFX, Diamond Multimedia, S3 Technologies, Chromatic Research, Xenon Technologies, Cirrus Logic, SiS, Creative Labs (Graphics Blaster PCI CT6610), Western Digital (yes, the same one), IBM, Video7, Paradise, Chips and Technologies, STB Systems, AMD (before they bought ATi and ruined the Radeon line), NEC (also the same one), and plenty more. Really beginning to miss the days when having an 8MB graphics card was a big deal, or when having any L2 cache at all was a huge performance boost. We've reached the point of diminishing returns, back in 1996 even adding one megabyte of memory could make your computer much faster. Nowadays it's 1GB.
Very nice build you have there, you gave me the idea to build a retro pc with your ultimate 2000 build! i am having so much fun playing old games again!
victorbart The old Need for Speed's, all the LEGO games, A2 racer, commandos. i can play all those games at 1280x1024 32bits on highest settings, my pc i had back then could never do that :)
victorbart Asus CUSL2-C Intel Pentium 3 Coppermine 1000mhz overclocked to 1110mhz @1.80v 512mb Corsair DDR 133 overclocked to 148mhz MSI Geforce4 TI 4600 128mb Maxtor Diamondmax plus 8 40gb (Windows 98SE) Maxtor Diamondmax plus 10 80gb (Windows 2000) Asus 52x cd player Icidu 10/100mbps nic Aopen 400w PSU Sweex prescott satrun blue case (almost free and new, case sucks low quality) New noiseblocker fans and Cooler Master cooler for CPU
200.000 views!! Thanks you all for watching
Perhaps you must use Windows NT 5.0 to experience fast gaming, don't use Windows 98 as that still use MS-DOS
The My Documents to Recycle bin icon was a Windows XP icons, where you're getting it?
IT WAS AWESOME MACHINE! i always dream on that! COOL!
HELLO RETRO machines !. i have this , can i use it to make a retro gamer pc? MOTHERBOARD TYAN + DUAL PENTIUM II 266MHZ . can i change the 266 with 450s ?
http2.mlstatic.com/pentium-ii-dual-retro-coleccion-D_NQ_NP_858505-MLA25048643898_092016-F.webp
Roy Silver you wasting money
Our first computer was a win98, pentium II 450 MHz. Cost $3000, new. I upgraded it as much as I could with winXP, 1 GHz pentium III, 512 MB RAM, DSL modem, etc. Kept using it for 10 years and then sold the tower for $100.
People would make fun of it today, but it pretty much did everything modern computers can do...except you just had to go eat lunch or do something else while it got heavy duty tasks accomplished (video, audio editing, etc)
The camera work is incredible and your attention to detail in all of your shots is incredible.
Very very nice video.
Green Ham Gaming Thanks :)
How did i find you here
I love a good PC build video! Even if it's not my own!
(anything with a 3DFX card has my approval)
My first pc was a pentium 233Mhz and a Voodoo2. Age 15, saved money long time and asked my parents for so long to get it. SLI voodoo2 and pentium 2 450, CD writer that was insane back then. Eventually I got myself a JVC cd writer 2x and for me and my friends was a revelation! Thanks for the video!
Hi Guys. first time i've ever commented on youtube. Anyway my first computer i ever bought (mum bought it - i was 13) was in 1998. It was a Compaq Presario 2294 which had an AMD k6-2 350 - 6GB HDD - 4MB shared Video - 14 inch Monitor - Windows 98. It was $2500. Wouldn't even play Daikatana. Mind you since then i have never moved to Intel. All AMD builds since then. Current machine is a FX6300 (4.3Ghz) - 16GB DDR3 1600mhz - 1TB HDD - Windforce 760GTX. Waiting on AMDs new chips for my next upgrade.
Have a great day.
Awesome! Welcome in the RUclips communitie! :D Ryzen will be awesome! and my next video will have AMD in the video!
Great video, Victor. Those times when PC gaming was something all of us wanted, but only a few could afford, reminding me the 486 I had for almost 10 years when I was younger. Now, I'm writing this from a i7 4790 xD
Back in 98, all I had was a Cyrix GX 166mhz computer.. My friends all had Pentium CPU's so basically until 1999 (when I decided to build my own), I couldn't play anything 3D, (could barely play Duke 3D). I use to drool over the graphics cards reviewed in PC Gamer magazine.
We've come a long way in pc building. It's really nice to watch the old stuff sometimes.
Taking me back to my teenage years there. I miss that time.
my first computer or laptop was a dell inspiron e1505
Thanks to this video, it convinced me to build high end year 2004 PC. Specs:
DFI K8T800PRO-ALF socket 754
AMD Athlon 64 3200 + 2.2GHz socket 754 (NewCastle)
2x1GB Transcend DDR400 CL3
2x WD Raptor 740GD 10k rpm in RAID 0
WDC 1200JB 7200 rpm (IDE)
Samsung Spinpoint 80GB 7200 rpm (IDE)
ATI Radeon X800 Pro 256MB (AGP 8X)
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS (PCI)
Scythe Andy Samurai Master + Arctic Cooling MX-2
Chieftec A-90 GDP-550C
Fractal Design Define R4
TSSTCorp SH-S222A (IDE)
Sony 3.5" floppy disk drive (IDE)
D-Link DFM-562IS 56K modem (PCI)
TP-Link TL-WN851ND WiFi adapter (PCI)
2x Fractal Design 140 mm + 1x Scythe SlipStream 120mm 800 rpm
Windows XP Professional 32bit SP3
Not the ultimate, but truly something. ATI Radeon can reach Core clock 540 MHz/Memory clock 570 MHz. CPU's limits are unknown, because at 224 CPU clock system BSODed and SATA HDD data corrupted, so now I have to reinstall Windows. I named computer as Athlonium 64.
For that money in 1998 you could buy an apartment in my country :D
+roman dulce no. It would cost you a small loan of a million dollars.
In 1998 for a million u could buy half of the country itself :) im talking about the Republic Of Moldova. :)
it was a donald trump reference. :)
+Luke Horror I think every country exports potassium every once and a while
+roman dulce
Uuu , romania
Dude, I played so many hours of need for speed 3 back in the late 90's. But one of my favorite computer games was tank wars on DOS floppy disk, so much fun when I was 5.
Yeah they were awesome lol
+95TurboSol the equivallent of Tank Wars now is Pocket Tanks, still fun to play with mates. :) And of course Worms Armageddon from gog.com (gog stands for good old games.)
AgathoDaimon911991 Yeah I downloaded pocket tanks when it came out, awesome game!
95TurboSol
Meanwhile they made many weapon-packs for the game. :D
+95TurboSol My most favorite DOS game was C-DOGS. Played that one for freakin' hours. :)
I still use today a PII400.. it gives me so much joy and fun (watch dvds, audio/video editing, playing games from 1996 to 2001 circa)
This build reminds very much of one of my old computers that I actually built around this time and still use today for retro gaming, it is fun to see you hit the spot this well. Well done
Thanks!
I wanted this setup so much in 1998. If I just had the money...
This is the dream system for Unreal 1 1998.
Especially when paired with a SoundBlaster Live! and surround speakers.
"Unreal delivers this cutting-edge realism on computers using a Pentium 166 or higher. And for those of you lucky enough to have a Pentium II, MMX technology or a video accelerator, the Unreal realms will become your reality."
Amazing build, brings back nostalgia like nothing else. I'm blown away by the attention to details down to the tiniest things - like the real HDD instead of CF/SD-to-IDE adapters, and cable management. Also camera dolly shots are simply amazing. Only thing missing from total perfection is the internal ZIP drive placed under the floppy. :) Thank you very much for the video, man! As retro PC enthusiast and collectioner myself, I take off my hat to you, sir!
I even had the same speakers! That truly is a system from my gaming days in 1998!
Yes everyone had those speakers :)
victorbart Name of that Speakers?
Sound of Generations
Juster AT-85
Awesome video, good job! :) I'm 40 yrs old and started to use(and love) computers 31 yrs ago. In 1998 this really was a dream build. That time i can bought only a waaay worse machine. And always jealous when i saw someone who can buy PII and two voodoo2, that performance amazed me then. :)
that was the best video ive seen on youtube in 5 years. i love it. if u did every year til 2005 omgomgomgomg.
There's something incredibly satisfying about building an ancient PC. Modern stuff doesn't have the same charm :)
Nice, remember my P2 300mhz with one voodoo 2 card, Quake was epic on it 😊
awesome
233mhz mmx ..vo graphic card.. added vodoo II .. :D
Those parts back then were indestructible...you could break your fingers but couldn't break parts...Great idea mate! I still can't throw away my 3dfx Voodoo. Keep it up!
man you deserve so many more subs. this is probably the most well done retro build video I've seen on youtube. I absolutely enjoyed every moment. I have a lot of old computer stuff going back to the mid 90s. I enjoy playing some of the old titles on my updated i7 6700k with gtx 1070 but it's just not the same as it was back then. I believe I'm going to have to do some retro builds and resurrect some of my old pc gear. I still have my Diamond 3dfx voodoo 2 video card but never did get a second one for sli. it was something I always wanted to try. now that I'm 40 maybe it's time to go back and relive some of that fun times.
Yes get that SLI running! :)
Your B-Roll game was on point here! Really great shots and editing! The build took me back to my middle school years!
You made me wanna rebuilt my childhood gaming PC :) thank you.
This was literally the best cable management I've ever seen. Ever. Even with all those PATA drives and those IDE cables/ribbons.
What a fantastic video, I love your editing :) and the build is very nice. My mind would have exploded playing with this in 98 into the year 2000! Dungeon keeper, Diablo 2, Porshe Unleashed, Halflife, Quake, Unreal, man the hits go on an on...
Thanks! :) Yes this is my favorite build till I remake my 1999 machine :D
Awesome build! I was drooling over voodoo cards as a kid when they arrived.
Reminds me of mine from back then. 640mb ram, p3 450(slot 1) over clocked to 700mhz, 440bx mobo, soundblaster audigy, creative labs tnt2 ultra, voodoo2 sli(left them in for certain glide games), and win 2k. Good ol' days for sure.
I still remember the day I told my cousin...."DAMN! how good would be to be able to get 512mb of ram, can you imagine?"
I am doing a similar project, but I made it more versatile, since I wanted to play older games too. I made it in a way to change multipliers and speed.
Motherboar: P3B-f rev. 1.04
CPU: PII 400 from April 1998. PIIs made up to August 1998 were multipliers limited, hence if you take a PII 400 you have multipliers up to 4x.
Video: being checked the best video card, probably PCI, currently I am using an S3 Virge.
3-D Accelerator: Voodoo 2 SLI - 3D Vulcan 2 (12MB) - 110 MHz Ram (vs the 90 MHz default).
Ram: 256 MB PC133 7 ns.
HDD: 80 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM - UDMA133.
Audio: Sound Blaster Awe 64 Gold.
I set the FSB to 133 and I just change the multiplier from 2 to 4 in the bios. I can hence go from 133 to 533 MHz. A better idea could be to have a MB with jumpers and attach the 2 or 4 multiplier change to the turbo button on the case.
my pentium 2 400 could run with 150fsb. i used it like that for 6 months. 600mhz. pretty fast.
Great video! I am doing retro builds for years and i love to see people are sharing this hobby. Recently i made Hi end Pentium 1 PC. Pentium 233 MMX, 256MB RAM, MB P5i430 Titanium 1, Voodoo RUSH, HDD CF 4GB, Zip 100mb,Floppy 1,44, LG DVD drive, Sound Blaster AWE64 value, Win95. Keep up the good work, you are inspiring.
Cool build! You only made 1 mistake which slows down your system a bit. the Intel 430TX chipset can only cache 64mb of memory. So if you use more then it will be slower then using 64mb :) I have had a Pentium1 166mmx and Dual P1 233mmx both with 128mb 72pin memory. But that was on the 430HX chipset which can cache 512mb mem :)
Still have a PC with an Asus P2B running. On it is a Tualatin Celeron 1300 MHz using a Slot-T adapter.
In 2001 I built an 1.2Ghz Athlon "Thunderbird" PC in that exact case, which also included the same 3Com network card. Watching this video makes me regret recycling the machine a few years ago!
Back in 1998, a Voodoo 2 SLI setup would have been my dream. The best I could afford at the time was a Voodoo Banshee, which was slower than a Voodoo 2, but had the advantage of also supporting 2D, (yes kids, back in the Voodoo 2 days you needed separate video cards for 2D and 3D!).
Love the video editing and use of music by the way!
In 1998 there was no Fireball lct yet. There time the EX series ran. I had one 10,2GB. :) I had no money for P2-450, so I bought 300A celeron, which run at 504Mhz (112Mhz fsb oc), but one of my friends got lucky, and had one running at 527Mhz (117Mhz fsb), that was an absolute winner. So nostalgic, remember playing there time the Unreal1, lolol! :D
Your videos just keep getting better and better from an editing standpoint Victor, well done sir! Love seeing my fellow 90's PC owners showing off their awesome builds :)
Still better than console
PK Logue LMAO
Wow, what a nice build I had always dreamed of putting one of those together, reminds me of those really thick computer part magazine/book that you could pick up at the store's magazine rack and one of the pages in there would have this huge dream build computer. Man thanks for the memories and nostalgia especially the head on the keyboard moment when installing windows 98......... Thanks again
Dude nice editing!
Thanks :D
Fantastic!
Congratulations for the video quality, directing and script :)
The components are top notch and in mint condition.
All I can say is RESPECT !
This video will be saved and archived, and shown to my grandsons.
Cheers mate !
the award bios and the energy star logo!!! I'm crying!!
Aaaah! Hugg! Dont cry! :)
I love the great quality of this video, including its rhythmic and entertaining editing. Very well done!
Thanks :)
In 1998 I would kill for such PC. Remember days when I played Half-Life in 640х480 and still had 15-18 fps.
I had a 300A with a custom heatsink and two fans. I had a rush setup and then a banshee. Its been amazing to see hardware advance over the years.
Remember guys, if you are laughing now at this 1998 PC, pay attention that your i7 6700K GTX1080 32GB RAM PCs for 15 years will be worth $20 for total and ridiculed by your sons.
Well you are maybe right. But the increase of performance over the last 17 years was mindblowing. At the moment you can handle everything very good (not 4K Gaming) with a I5 2500, 8 GB RAM, GTX 680. And that is the high level standard from five years ago. Performance increase after Sandy-Bridge-Generation CPU´s is not comparable if you look at a 1998 PC compared with a 2003 pc.
+Dieter Gerding a Slot A Athlon 650MHz versus an Athlon x2 or Athlon 64? There's a pretty big performance gap there, buddy.
1998-2003 was just as much of a race as it is now, just with more competition.
I kind of wish we had more than two or three companies competing, I liked it better when there was more than nVidia and AMD in video chipsets, I almost miss Cirrus Logic and S3 Technologies.
+AIO inc. That is exactly what I wanted to say. The performance gap between a sandy bridge and a skylake cpu is maybe 20-25% at the best. The gap between the two cpu's you chose is much higher. So I doubted, that the increase in speed in the next 15 years will be comparable to the development we saw in the last 15 years.
However a pentium 4 from today wich is 15 years old now (or even a core 2 duo wich is 10 years old), even though they can still perform very well (especially for the core 2) can be found for very cheap nowadays. In fact, I think that CPUs aren't evolving that munch now, but GPUs are still evolving fast imo. Gaming on a full 2008 gaming PC (core 2 quad + 4GB of ram + 2 8800GT in SLI) ? Out of question. Gaming on the same computer but with an RX 480 or nvidia's equivalent (or even something a bit slower/cheaper) ? sure !
Deksor
Pentium 4's are still usable, should you be fine with XP or a slightly slow 7.
Awesome job taming those ribbon cables! I remember them being a beast to deal with back in the day!
One of the best videos ive seen. Nostalgia.
Thanks! :)
So much awesomeness in one video... never knew SLI existed back then, even tho I also had a 3DFX accelerator card, where you needed to externally link it to the primary graphics card...This build is cleaner then some of the modern day PC builds I've seen, well done!
Fast forward to 2020 and the prices have soared. Currently seeing the Asus P2B motherboards selling on auction sites for £55+, a single 3DFX Voodoo 2 card is £90+. Crazy stuff!
i'm holding on to my voodoo2 cards for 10 more years, see what prices are like then.
Well the demand for them is going up and there in limited quantity
Yes, tell me about it. I just paid £150 for a voodoo 3. I could have got one a bit cheaper if I waited and went for an auction rather than a buy it now. But this one, unlike many others, was actually shown as working in the listing. I have just tried it paired with my PIII 550Mhz (free!), and Soundblaster Pro 2 (£75) and I am very happy with it. Just wish it cost less to build!
Dude that was badass! I didn't know you were into this kind of stuff. I was thinking about the good old days, looking up old Voodoo GPUs and your MS-DOS build came up.
That right there is some amazing tech pr0n sir.
Gordon Freeman Thank you Mister Freeman! It is a honour to have you watch my video!
Nice footage of the machine Victor! Keep up the good work! Keep building Retro!
HL1 is my favorite. It was always my favorite game :D
Your music choices are premium..get iiit. Beautiful build. Super jealous.
I've got a mobo with pentium ii 400, 128mb of ram, riva tnt2 and voodoo 2. Waiting for the case to build my system
+David Zachary Cool! :)
+victorbart I´m making my 1998 gaming build. Check my latest video for the parts I´m going to be using!
Ya I think the AGP port amd TNT would have been faster than using this SLI setup. Albeit this is cool. Did the chipset not alow another 64MB stick? Also a 7200 rpm drives were around then along with the SCSI 1000rpm drives. A raid controller and dvd rom and encoder would of been nice on thus build as well.
I going to try to build and k6-2 gaming PC when got money
+Happy Tylerienmam Networks - better take a Pentium II with intel BX chipset if it doesnt have to be the k6-2 out of sentimental reasons. the boards/drivers are so buggy and not stable, its often a nightmare to get it up working right.
Gosh, this brings so many memories... It was around this year that I had my first proper computer: a Pentium II 350, a Voodoo 3 3000 AGP with 32mb of VRAM, and 128mb of RAM! Motocross Madness never looked so smooth!! haha
sli in 98? i thought this was a recent thing, interesting
It was very new back then. And the SLI'd cards are 3D accelerators, a regular card is required for video display and 2D acceleration.
+djmhyde Nope Voodoo 2 was the first card I believe. But NVIDIA bought 3DFX and then brought out their own SLI cards around 2004. AMD brought out CrossFire cards in 2005. So the concept has been around for a fair while now. The funny thing is when you break it all down the basic parts are still the same.
+djmhyde +blankname1984 In fact SLI and Crossfire were both born out of 3DFX. To avoid bankruptcy, 3DFX was sold to nVidia in late 2000. The majority of the engineering and design team working on 3DFX's Rampage, remained with the project to work on what became the GeForce FX series. Most of those who did not find jobs at nVidia, found employment at ATi (acquired by AMD) and brought their knowledge with them to assist in the creation of the X series of graphics cards, and form their own version of SLI known as Crossfire.
In 1997, ATi acquired Tseng Labs' graphics assets, which included 40 engineers. Now if you don't know anything about Tseng Labs, they produced some of the best 2D video cards in the years just before 3D graphics. Most notably, the ET4000 and ET6000. (I still have my ET6000 in it's original packaging.) In 2000 ATI acquired ArtX, which engineered the Flipper graphics chip used in the Nintendo Gamecube.
ATi had more than their share of driver issues in those early years, perhaps in part because 3DFX's best software engineers were acquired by nVidia. Prior to 3DFX's acquisition however, ATi was not really one of the fastest or most exciting graphics cards on the market. The main reason they survived at all up to that point was because of a deal they had with Apple to supply graphics cards for the MacIntosh. All iMac G3s came with a variation of the ATi Rage 128, for example. Even it's predecessor, the Power Macintosh G3 desktop, came out with an ATI 3D Rage II+ or ATI 3D Rage Pro. The reason being that the 3D Rage was the first 2D/3D combo card on the market and the timing was right for Apple who were delivering a new product.
Here's a list of some of the first 3D graphics cards on the market:
3D Labs Permedia
3DFX Voodoo Graphics
ATi Rage and Rage II
Matrox Millennium
Matrox Mystique
Number Nine Imagine Series
nVidia NV1
Rendition Verite V1000
S3 ViRGE 3D
VideoLogic PowerVR Series 1
Of those, the most interesting at the time were 3D Labs, 3DFX, Rendition, and VideoLogic's PowerVR.
PowerVR now resides in many of the most popular smart phones.
+djmhyde I remember having one of the first SLI setups in around 1997/1998. I bought a 12MB Voodoo2 and a mate of mine bought 2, but his system only had a single PCI slot so he let me blag one for a while.. (not PCI-E, I'm talking bog standard old school PCI (shit and there's even older school than that MCA/ISA/VL-ISA slots anyone??) Yeah, I've been doing this shit a long time :)
Running Unreal (the very first game) in 1024x768 on my P2-266 that was running at 400. I later found out that I somehow managed to get an ES (Engineering Sample) 266 which might have been why the thing ran at 400 for a good few years and never batted an eyelid.
+g_tripwood_industries woooh, mine was a bit older and only 4mb. I still have it installed in an old IBM, just to play turok once in a while :)
Ah, that short time I had the top-of-the-line system, never since. Dell XPS R450, Riva TNT, SLI Voodoo 2s and Turtle Beach surround sound card. My friend bought a system with a slow clone CPU that couldn't keep up with even one Voodoo II. He brought them over, installed and we played Half-Life 1 just as it came out on maxed out settings.
As the tram sequence plays for ten seconds, he impatiently says "skip this cutscene!". I move the mouse and walk about the tram. Jaw drops. Probably my favorite system build memory. It didn't hurt that Half-Life 1 turned out to be even better to play than it was to look at!
It was a great experience to be a teen, full of wonder, experiencing such a turning point in both 3D accelerator performance and game storytelling all at once. I'll almost certainly never experience that again, both because I have changed, and because the hardware and gameplay changes have become relatively incremental, but that does nothing to take away from how awesome that memory is for me.
Dude that was an amazing nostalgia trip. Even the classic Tweakers logo, right in the feels. Where do you get all your parts?
+HamsterWheelGaming From friends, dumpsters, free ads online etc.
This video brings back some very nice memories! Keep up the good work! I love your channel.
Look how old we all are now 😞 (subbed)
I'm amazed that all those components still work nowadays ... that's one a hell of a trip to the past !
LOL I keep watching my own video :D
This is the first video I've seen from you. I must ask: Why no ads? You totally deserve money from this.
Subbed!
Thanks!
I have ads running :) And I also have a Patreon page :)
its a good video!
Is this a very expensive build for a gaming PC from 1998? What would a typical price be?
no Ultima? Good job!!!!
Oh Yes! This type of system I was using at the hight of my PC a gaming days. Sweet setup. Brings back memories.
I remember building a 1.2Ghz single core with 512mb of RAM back in 2001, I thought I would never need to upgrade...
+ArcadeGames Heh I've spended once tons of money for an upgrade, celly 300 ( wich i Like beter for games then pentium2. It had smoother fps on my voodoo, i think because of the full speed l2 cache instead of the silly ammount of l2 cache for its time at half speed on the p2's.) To the amd duron 800. It I also bought a nvidia t64 with it.. God what a waste of money was that. Old voodoo3 was alot, alot, alot faster.. BUtThe amd 800 duron blew my mind away with 3x 256 mb ram
The production value on your videos is phenomenal!!!
In 1998 you could buy a *CAR* for a price of this *PC*
possibly even a brand new one, but some garbage like yugo
@@jm036 they're torturing refugees in ft hood texas
Today you can buy a car as well for high spec pc ;)
Brings back memories of dream builds I could never afford. Great soundtrack. 👍🏼
My build in 1998
- Pentium II - 233
- 32Mb Ram SD
- 3.2Gb Quantum Fireball
- Rendition R2200 VGA
- Sound Blaster AWE 64.
Thanks
Great computere you had there. I was using in 98:
Shuttle Hot 569
Pentiumio 233 MMX
64 sdram
matrox millenium
Orchid Righteous 3D II
Sound Balster CT4620
that was awesome. I played a lot of Thief The Dark Project
The music is simply epic in this video! and as a tech fan, I must say....keep up the good work!
The amazing thing is people will be doing this in 15 years. "Ultimate 2015 retro PC running on old fashioned Windows 10 with a puny 4.0ghz Intel processor and a meager 16gb of ram and sli gtx 980ti gpus" lol
+Derek Fishel ''Ahh, good old days when we used to play 32 vs. 32 on Battlefield 4 and GTA V Online. Heists were the shit. Kids today with their 128GB RAM, Call Of Duty: Primal Warfare and Battlefield 3547 will never know how much fun we had quickscoping scrubs.''
+SonnytheArcticFox People already do that with Call of Duty 2 and Halo
+Derek Fishel I don't think that the hardware from 2015 will be outdated that fast. Moore's Law will come to a halt after finally the 7nm architecture will be reached. At 6nm a quantum mechanic effect called "Quantum Tunneling" will take place which renders CPUs useless. That means that as soon as the 7nm architecture isn' sufficient enough anymore, the engineers have to come up with a totally new concept about computing. And as long as they can't find a better and cost-efficient concept, the hardware between now and 7nm will be "actual hardware". And just remember how fast Intel advanced to their new Skylake 14nm processing and the roadmap shows that they want to introduce 10nm between 2016 and 2017 and a 7nm architecture between 2017 and 2018. So 2018 the peak will be reached and I guess if you move on to 2018 and think about hardware "from 3 years ago", you won't really have that nostalgia-effect. :)
But I guess the nostalgia comes back when the kids in the future will sit at a brand new machine that works totally different than our PCs today and then you want to explain to them that "back in the day, a computer was only able to handle 0's and 1's". I guess it's the same for a teen today when putting the mp3 files on his smartphone you try to explain to them that there was once a time where music was "pressed on vinyl" and you had to clean the vinyl disk before putting it on a turntable..." 2 totally different concepts for one and the same thing...
+Metatr0n
Quantum tunnelling wont render CPU's useless that is load of crap, its possible to use quantum tunnelling to our advantage there is already chips made smaller than 1nm so there you go, its quite possible to do.
*****
That shows that you know nothing about what quantum tunneling does, nor how quantum tunneling works. Building a transistor and building a CPU are 2 totally different things. If you take a normal CPU and shrink it down to 6nm, the uncertainty principle of the position of an electron will cause the transistors of the CPU to close or open without any signals to tell them to close or open, only because the disappearance and appearance of electrons will make them jump from transistor to transistor.
Furthermore, the transistor-types that you mentioned are finFETs and tunnelFETs wich both can be used in a quantum-tunneling environment but both transistors aren't usable on a CPU, since they work on a totally different basis. On top, only because there are smaller transistors, doesn't mean that you can use them on a CPU as mentioned above, and even if you could use them and even if you could fit them on a die, they won't be able to withstand several GHz of frequency.
So you either have transistors that fit on a die and can withstand several GHz but can't be used in quantum tunneling environment, or you have transistors that don't fit on a die and can't be used at several GHz but can be used in a quantum tunneling environment.
I reckon you learn something about a topic before you start spouting half-knowledge on the net.
Wow, that was an awesome machine back in the day... Those 3dfx cards were awesome!!!
They had dual Pentium II computers available during this time period with AGP slots. A high end machine would also possessed a 10k SCSI RAID-0 array.
there was zero games with multithreading support that i know of. the first one was quake 3 and that was in 1999
Those drives are server stuff and were unaffordable to mortals. This build is more like ultimate consumer part build, not ultimate enterprise level rig.
AAAAH the memories!!! Especially NFSIII.... That was my childhood.
Dual GPUs in 1998?! My whole life was a lie xD
+XgamerGR one gpus is for horizontal graphics read and second gpus for vertical reads
+jose villagran
No it is because he is using them in SLI. Voodoo's already had the horizontal and vertical read built into it.
Damn...im feeling too old xD
Couldnt even imagine dual and triple graphics solutions have been around since the late '90s...
XgamerGR
There wasn't triple gpu's but there was SLI from Voodoo
Great shots, good editing wonderful camera work!
Nicely edited video. Getting an appropriate PSU for a retro PC is the most difficult thing. While a good modern PSU would cope with the +3.3 V and +5 V requirements, the lack of a -5 V line would be a problem, I imagine? It is required by ISA slots. The question is, would the board even run without a -5 V line if you did not want to use the ISA slots?
It's a direct current voltage not alternating so any ground line that is -5v or higher would work perfectly fine. I honestly don't even know why they rate them at voltages DC has two lines positive and ground.
I run a cx430 psu in the exact same setup no problems
I love this video, this was basically my setup at the end of grade school and every one of these games are basically my fave, up til my 2000s pc and counter strike took over
Finally a computer which my 10 year old computer can beat!
cannot... your computer cannot play windows 98 games, and Glide games.
@@warrax111 dreams crushed
The original "SLI" setup.....beautiful. I only had one Voodoo2 card in my machine.
My last 3dfx card was the "Voodoo3 3500TV," i've still got it in its original box.
And look at that....the "Aopen HX45" PC case, the essence of the 90's (and the HX08)
The choices of hardware are pretty accurate. Buuut.. I wish you had chosen the old classic "3Dfx" logo for your wallpaper (and ergo the YT vid thumbnail) to make a more accurate historical representation, because the official splash screen for all 3Dfx cards (i.e. built in the drivers) until that year had the old/classic one (I had the Banshee in 1998). That newer "3dfx" logo with orange swoosh only came later with Voodoo3 in 1999.
My family's first computer had a 450 in it. Like, very first, and it was in 2002. What a beast.
Im not a 90's kid. Can someone explain to me why there was an extra video card called the viper v550?
Viper V550 is a 2D and 3D card. Voodoo2 Sli is 3D only solution :)
+victorbart so without a voodoo card you couldn't run 3d graphics?
Yes on the Viper V550 :) But for glide games you need 3dfx :)
So if this is a 1998 build, when did 2d and 3d start getting implemented on the same card?
Didnt nvidia have geforce around this time?
would you be better off with a riva or voodoo with a 2d card?
Software-wise I think Directx8.1 were the best choice with win98se..
Also for 3dfx Voodoo3 owners IMPORTANT: latest reference drivers (1.07) are much slower than 1.05 !!!
You have inspired me to build my retro 1998 gaming machine. Just curious about the drivers. Many websites are terrible. Where did you get your drivers? Thanks very much.
+Jimmy Chae Just google them and use higher end / good brand cards in your build.
My brother had this set up and seeing it run Enemy Engaged: Apache vs Havoc was a jaw dropping moment
Just finished my year 2000 dream build!
Dell Inspiron 4100 Desktop Tower
Intel Pentium III “Coppermine” 1Ghz
Intel 850E Socket 370 Chipset
Micron 512MB SDRAM
Wester Digital 80GB 7200RPM
3DFX Voodoo5 5500 AGP 64MB
Creative SoundBlaster Live! 5.1
StarTech 1 Port PCI 10/100/1000 32 Bit Gigabit Ethernet Network Adapter
DVD-R/RW Drive
CD-R/RW Drive
3.5 Floppy Drive
19" Dell Sony Trinitron P990 CRT VGA Monitor 1600x1200 @75Hz
Dell SK-8000 PS2 QuietKey GX1 Keyboard
Logitec PS2 Wired Mouse
Microsoft Windows ME😂
3dfx dream build yes but year 2000 was catastrophic for 3dfx and got smoked by gf2gts by 3 times !
Almost nostalgic now these old machines. I still have my two Canopus Voodoo II cards in a box somewhere. Played many of the games shown in the clip. Also enjoyed MS Combat Flight Sim and MS Urban Assualt. I think Quote 2, Unreal Tournament and Half Life was my favourite games. After Half Life I kept updating Counterstrike which used the Half Life engine. Phew memories indeed.
Why did Intel use a slot and not a socket for the P2. It looks weird...
Because of the cache next to the CPU. To save money that made it not into the CPU like the pentium pro but next to it. So they had less failing cpus by making them.
I will never ever forget this Amazing days, 3dfx Most powerful video card ever in does days, hey you really bring me Memories Wow thank you for posting this video, this setup was the most power gaming back in the days, I still remember when the scary Unreal Game can out that shit was scary like hell, but best graphics ever in a PC Game. Thank You take care.
Back then computer hardware was so sexy. You could actually cut yourself with the stuff. Nowadays hardware is nothing but fused mush! The only reason we need big hd space and multi core processors is because of inefficient software and fucking complicated web media and always updating media platform.
Gud Dergo i'd have to disagree on that, i don't understand whats sexy about a shit-coloured PCB?
i mean, this build is undeniably cool, and is sexy in a retro way, but to say that it's more sexy than for example a devil-13 295x2 is just wrong
+Gud Dergo What are you talking about? You're saying if things were efficient we won't need multi-core processors and other things? Besides, today's hardware is way sexier than it used to be. Old hardware might have the raw, functionalist flare to it, but today's hardware is actually designed to look good.
As someone who built computers back then and continues to build systems today, it's much better now than it used to be.
Thanks for doing this! This machine would've been an absolute beast in 98-99. That would rock some Unreal and Wing Commander- Prophecy.
That looks like a sick build. However, just for shits and giggles, I would've added a 5.25" floppy drive. I just like those.
In 1998 one guy in the neighborhood had similar pc. It was running 24/7 converting vhs vids doing 3d animations ,downloads etc,etc,etc,etc
Wow that takes me back to when I used to build those computers so many cpus K6, PENTIUM, C5, K7, 486, 386, PENTIUM PRO, ...what you could do with a 30MB hard drive back then .. now you need at least 30GB to even sniff at Windows 7, 8 or 10!!! Windows 98 & 95 was personally the best OS for me the sucked ones were Vista, Millennium and 8.0. ooops Windows Update !!! 30GB full of off updates you don't need lol ... used to love my 233Mhz IBM C5 or IBM 7Mhz AT 286 system with 512MB and ISA Graphics card !!! that IBM was a heavy computer!!!
I once fit an entire copy of Windows 7 Ultimate on a 12GB drive because I had no other ones to spare and it was noisy but worked fine. Quantum Bigfoot TX if I recall.
I kind of miss the competition there used to be on the market in the early 90s. Nowadays you have three choices, integrated nVidia of AMD.
Back in 1997, you had:
ATi, nVidia, Intel, 3DFX, Diamond Multimedia, S3 Technologies, Chromatic Research, Xenon Technologies, Cirrus Logic, SiS, Creative Labs (Graphics Blaster PCI CT6610), Western Digital (yes, the same one), IBM, Video7, Paradise, Chips and Technologies, STB Systems, AMD (before they bought ATi and ruined the Radeon line), NEC (also the same one), and plenty more.
Really beginning to miss the days when having an 8MB graphics card was a big deal, or when having any L2 cache at all was a huge performance boost. We've reached the point of diminishing returns, back in 1996 even adding one megabyte of memory could make your computer much faster. Nowadays it's 1GB.
LOL done that!! windows 7 on old drives but seriously old stuff is built forever!!
+AIO inc. You forgot Number Nine, Tseng, Oak Technology, 3D Labs, and Elsa.
lol hey I getting old now lol my memory isn't as good now :D no one is perfect lol
1985sean
I don't recall ever seeing Elsa cards, but Number9 and Oak Technology... all the time.
Very nice build you have there, you gave me the idea to build a retro pc with your ultimate 2000 build! i am having so much fun playing old games again!
Cool which games do you play?
victorbart The old Need for Speed's, all the LEGO games, A2 racer, commandos. i can play all those games at 1280x1024 32bits on highest settings, my pc i had back then could never do that :)
Walter Van Heemskerk
Nice! with that resolution you must have a fast machine which specs do you have? :)
victorbart Asus CUSL2-C
Intel Pentium 3 Coppermine 1000mhz overclocked to 1110mhz @1.80v
512mb Corsair DDR 133 overclocked to 148mhz
MSI Geforce4 TI 4600 128mb
Maxtor Diamondmax plus 8 40gb (Windows 98SE)
Maxtor Diamondmax plus 10 80gb (Windows 2000)
Asus 52x cd player
Icidu 10/100mbps nic
Aopen 400w PSU
Sweex prescott satrun blue case (almost free and new, case sucks low quality)
New noiseblocker fans and Cooler Master cooler for CPU
perfect
Youre video editing skills are the far best I have ever seen.
I’m doing a 1999 build
a tingle runs down my spine when i remembered back in the day, 20gb hhd was a lot of storage...
I remember when a 1gb drive was amazing! I had a 486DX4 @100Mhz with a 750mb hard drive in 98 lmao..