By performance intel has been beating AMD for years. This year AMD turned it around though. Stop being a fanboy over a piece of sand turned into a cpu. Edit: to those calling me a fanboy, you're a moron and you are misunderstanding my comment. I'll gladly by whatever cpu is better, I just have an i7 8700k so I won't be needing one for a long time but if AMD still holds the reins on the cpu market, I'll switch
AMD is a cheapo brand for mediocres. that processor cannot reach 5.3- 5.4 ghz stable for gaming. who uses amd for workstation that brand always have and will have problems with drivers XD and or temps lol.. workstations need quad Xeon with Nvidia Quadro RTX 48gb cards.. ill say this is a brand for hobos
@lion heart dude.... yes in games, intel is still the king for that since well the KS is essentially a binned i9 9900k that does 5ghz outta the box....which is somewhat redundant and just another sku on the product stack t hat is intel... most i9's will do close to 5ghz or pretty much 5ghz out of the box with out much tweaking...like at all... AMD is more than just value at this point, its really the smarter buy! when its so ridiculously close to intel at boost clocks now....and not just a gaming CPU but a workload CPU if you choose..so really ya...they are killing it! seriously in gaming how many people are going to need a 150 plus fps at 1080p other than to play an esport title which are all pretty easy to run with almost any CPU.. who care if the I9 can do 500 plus fps in csgo at 1080p...you don't need it... most will game above that to utilize the hardware in their PC...why buy a 1080ti or a 2080ti to game at 1080p...just like why buy an i9 9900k to only game on it when its touted also as a workstation cpu as well and AMD's 3800x will beat it in work performance to and its cheaper...and it games like a beast!.. also own intel myself not a fanboy just know facts and what i see with my eyes lol..
"Murdering Intel this bad." Revenue increase for both companies from 2014 to 2018 (The heart of the CPU race) AMD: $5.5 Billion to $6.5 Billion (+ $1 Billion) Intel: $55.9 Billion to $70.8 Billion (+ $14.9 Billion) (Revenue increase is more than twice as much as AMDs 2018 Revenue) Id say its more like AMD is a mosquito flying around in Intel face. It may suck some customers from Intel now, but eventually it'll get squished when Intel actually starts taking this CPU race serious.
@@alanbryson5738 Yeah but it's like Linus said a few WAN shows ago: This has long lasting effects. It makes Intel processors 'feel' inferior and these assumptions can last decades, like with AMDs 'they always run too hot'. This will hurt them in the long run. I haven't had an AMD since the Athlon XP 2000+, but I know my next processor will be team red.
@@RemizZ True and thats fine that theres a competitor to push Intel to do better at making a more competitive CPU for public consumers, but like I said, theyre not even taking this serious right now, it would waste more money to try and one-up AMD and try to put them out of business than to just ignore it. If Intel is making that much money then theres no way that they couldnt be making some sort of major breakthroughs in their CPU designs to match AMDs and making their CPUs affordable to the public. Its just a matter of they dont care right now.
@@alanbryson5738 most of that revenue came from big enterprise companies needing their server grade hardware. What happens now when they realize that they can get the same server grade performance with cheaper prices? Your analogy might be right, AMD is still a mosquito buzzing on Intel's face, but if they don't start doing something about it, remember what insect causes dengue and malaria,
Gasviation Yea, a monopoly in 1 industry is bad enough, but a monopoly in 2 interrelated industries would be horrifing. PLEASE NOTE: I AM NOT SAYING AMD IS A MONOPOLY, BUT IF AMD DETHRONES INTEL COMPLETLY, AND DOES THE SAME TO NVIDIA, THEN IT WILL HAVE 2 MONOPOLIES.
@@loganiushere except AMD's graphics division and CPU division are two different companies under the same name. That's why Intel is against AMD in the CPU lineup, but is used by Intel in their Hades canyon nuc through Radeon graphics.
just hope radeon driver issues are sorted and amd are well on their way to going for the neck or nvidia as well, providing they want to give them competition at the extreme high end
@v KEITH v I get that. It just kinda obsoletes thread ripper as it takes up a similar price point. The other am4 chips will still have a place below it.
@@Grubbybump253 Threadripper is for people that needs tons of PCIe lanes and memory. You can't do that on a consumer Ryzen chip. The people who need Threadripper will still use Threadripper. It does kind of eliminate the last gen of Threadripper though.
Close..they hired Jim Keller from Apple. That guy has been the lead designer for many impressive processors. For example AMD K8..also known as Athlon64.
L S sadly, kinda hard to justify that many cores with just 256gb RAM, that can become a bottleneck pretty quickly. If they supported registered DIMMs it’d be completely perfect, but I guess AMD is concerned with cannibalizing EPYC. If they made, let’s say, an unlocked and higher TDP EPYC-W spec, that’d be great too (if a bit pricey, dual $7000+ OC’d CPUs + 2TB RAM wholesale $15000 = ouch, both for Intel and your wallet)
@@jayvader9023 Yeah, but a ton of workstation workloads really chew through RAM. Hours of raw video, billions of particles in simulations, and billions of rows in local tables for stuff like Python or RDBMS data science can quickly break past that. Ironically, there's plenty of server workloads that this memory limit isn't an issue, but they don't work well with higher clock speeds as efficiency is paramount (web servers especially).
@@romannasuti25 i know it does bottleneck, but it is really weird to think about because i only know a lot about gaming computing stuff, im not really interested or enlightened in servers so it is just odd lol
Anonymous Random Zero depends on if the game (or application) uses all available cores or not. If it doesn‘t then yeah go for intel, but generally the KS is a weak throw on their part to try to catch up a little. But even if only 8 cores are used, the frames more are not noticable. Besides, go with the KF not KS, same for cheaper, although I‘d personally go with amd
@@VibezVideo they didn't ban Huawei to save apple, they did it because Huawei's main ceo, also has ties to the chinese government. Amd was founded in america.
He was excited for those libery 2 pro headphones...just had to send mine back b/c of a battery issue. Though customer service was easier to deal with than CanadaPost.
Don’t trust Linus. Their company doesn’t even have benchmark numbers for intel HEDT which the 3950x is considered to be at $750. Stupid RUclips channel.
@@GennaiosFX the intel equivalent (i9-10980xe) is $1000, performs worse (3.0/4.6 ghz verses 3.5/4.7 ghz), uses more energy (165 watts verses 105 watts), and requires more expensive motherboard. Fanboyism has nothing to do with it. AMD did very well here.
AMD: wtf did u say abt my mum... Intel: I said that ur mum is a fucking (insert here) AMD: ... Intel: lol hahahha (KABOOM. Imagine the "oh? ur apporching me?) Announcer: HOLY FUCK AMD JUST KILLED INTEL AMD: WHAT THE FUCK DID U CALL MY MUM HUH. Ref: dude chill hes dead AMD: THATS RIGHT. YOU'RE FUCKING DEAD
@@bsx132 the problem is you're comparing a 6 core to a 16 core.....and this thing is aimed at high end systems not causal stuff. Even then a ryzen 3600 exist
@@nrvinl It doesn't matter how many cores it is, the 8700k / 9600k is better than anything AMD makes for gaming and people act like its not true. The i7 10700k will be better than anything AMD has for gaming even next gen.
AMD was able to overtake Intel because Intel chose short-term profitability and let their technology stagnate in the process. It looks like AMD won't be repeating that mistake.
@@neolexiousneolexian6079 AMD has frequently pushed the limitations of hardware while Intel has been sitting on their throne. It's been a good thing mostly as it's driven innovation from both teams one upping one another. Though honestly the advantages Intel have gained have often been down to better software support in my experience. Even now a lot of software used by content creators suffers a bit on AMD hardware, graphics vs nVidia as well though.
@@HeavyMetalGamingHD And yet we need no more than 8-12 cores, but we need them stronger. And both amd and intel are having smaller and smaller cores with each process node and or the same size cores with the same process nodes. Basically trying to sell us server CPUs for the desktop.
@@rattlehead999 Everyone may not agree with me but I am very happy with this. For rendering multiple things on different programs at once, this makes me happy. I also run a home server and like to code up some games too. What a kick ass processor, I will be buying one today and new board that goes with it :). I'll give my wife my 1900x with 1080ti, I'll throw some RGB in the case for her too.
This is like YuGiOh when you sacrifice your own monster to summon a stronger monster. Don't blink cuz amd is about to attack intel's life points directly.
And Intel is complately out of Monster Reborn cards (ie. their 14nm SKUs). But it doesn't end there..... to add insult to injury, Intel also couldn't even manage to lay down any Trap cards either (ie. their discrete GPUs), which look like they'll just end up going nowhere).
It's sad that you waste so much time playing games, instead of doing something creative or productive. Your mom wants you to wash the dishes, and clean the garage. Then meet a nice girl and get married.
@@ianarthur4442 That is clearly not the fault of the chip, but the thermal designs that a lot of laptop manufacturers are implementing with these CPUs. If you took a 4800H and an i7 10750H in the exact same cooling design/configuration, the Ryzen will run cooler. There are some Ryzen 4000 laptops out there like the Eluktronics RP-15 which do not have a thermal constrained design.
I think they planned to switch to 6 cores but I doubt they would have done that with 8th Gen I think they wouldve just waited until 10th Gen then released 6 core variants
That is so true, they have kept their old chips on sale and give them new serial numbers because the average person does not need high specs and because wage deflation since 2003 has made people wait longer to upgrade and the phone market has been chipping away at game sales.
Can someone please tell me why and isn’t already annihilating intel in the low, mid, and high end with the most reasonable pricing and why people will still by intel instead of the cheaper and possibly better and counterpart?
@MultiWirth They are but if your buying a 3950x you should really run it x570 board. Can’t image my C6H playing to well with this CPU especially when I OC it
@@HlspwnsWorld I don't care much about OC or pci-e 4.0 so i think i would be fine using my existing board and since the cpu is on the compatibility list, it should run fine.
@@HlspwnsWorld There's some articles and videos out there of people trying the 12 core on the cheapest b350 boards they could find and at stock they ran just fine. Obviously you have to be more picky about memory and overclocking was a no-go on a B350 board but otherwise it ran to spec. Given that the 16 core runs cooler and with less volts at heavier workloads it should run even better then the 12 core did on lower end stuff, which is crazy.
@@ikkuranus You can go cheap or high-end (it's LTT after all ). High end can take the full monty - the mother of all loads...front, back, down, up - very versatile.
Yeah agree, the more competition the better customers will get. I still believe, if AMD weren't fightback with their Ryzen series. i3 will still 2c/4t, i5 with 4c/4t anddd... i7 with 4c/8t Hope Intel will comeback stronger in 2021/2022. Until then for me Ryzen is the "best cpu" right now
You know what's the best thing that happend: that Intel's only good competitor wasn't like intel. Cuz monopoly with 2 players could also be screwd up for us.... But love the fact that amd was focusing on other things compared to intel and was different than just a cheaper version of intel with an other name. And thx to them even intel had to do their best and become more innovative..
@@shernandez31 which is weird since there is a big problem when you go less than 7nm, it begins to enter in the quantum physics limitations. Perhaps we will see the last gen of conventional processors in the next couple years.
I JUST SAW REVEAL OF 5950X ...AND LOL INTEL DOES NOT EVEN EXIST IT WINS EVEN IN GAMING AND I DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT MULTITHREAD PERFORMANCE HAHAHHAHAHAHA
@@chillhour6155 To be fair Jays was just broken. I have that exact drive he had in my nieces computer and its no warmer than a standard SSD and performs exactly the same as other similarly rated SSDs.
That's not a good place to be, and that would suck for the consumer. That's exactly what happened to Intel and why they've stagnated and what we're seeing with Nvidia and their 50 bajillion SKUs and skyrocketing prices.
The future proofing on the AM4 platform is ridiculous when you can go from a 2C/4T Athlon to a 16C/32T CPU that will eat Intel workstations for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
Let me be the buzzkiller here by saying you probably wouldn't want the 3950X in the motherboard you bought with your Athlon, but nonetheless the flexibility of AM4 is truely amazing. And of course you still totally could put the 3950X in the cheapest AM4 and it would work (assuming bios compatibility).
@@kacasio1 Fun fact: the infinity fabric is Jim Keller's design that makes the chiplet strategy work. The core microarchitecture is the other engineers, which kinda makes me feel better that they can keep improving the architecture on their own. Hopefully they can speed up the IF too someday.
"This thing is so good, that if AMD wants us to recommend 3rd gen Threadripper they're going to have to pull a serious rabbit out of their bag" - foreshadowing
@@LastoftheFalcons I know. A 64 core/128 thread desktop part! I haven't got any vaguely reasonable use case for it (hell, my 3900X was overkill) but my inner geek wants it... It wants the preciousssss....
@@paranoidrodent right!?! Lol. If I bought it it would only be so I had the processing power to both have a project being rendered or video being engested. WHILE streaming and gaming at the same time. It would be rather nice to have 1 pc that to be blunt will last a solid decade of use just needing a new graphics card once every three to five years.
I could see such a part being very useful for a multi-platform developer who uses virtual machines to test his compiles. Like a Mozilla or Linux developer or something.
Honestly I ran a FX 8350 for years and it ran games just fine. I could stream/record while playing games. Never had an issue with the FX series. Kept that CPU until I upgraded to the 1800x.
@@jonmcentire Yeah thats what i was running, it really was great. Im running an i5 8600k atm but when the time comes to upgrade i think it will be amd again
still using a fx 6300 and no plan to upgrade yet...its running pretty well with a gtx 1050 ...granted I have kinda stopped gaming in general and I dont do any editing. Though I must say I got a very noticeable boost in performance after installing windows10 ltsc, once all the bloatware is gone windows 10 is a very nice light os
I upgraded from my FX6300 i bought in 2012 to a ryzen 2600 just 2 months ago. While old a.f. I could still play new games. and since I had a 720p display and can live with 30 fps it was alright.
I know the feeling. 7 years for me, but the i7 Haswell with (recent upgrade) AMD Radeon RX 590 in splendid dual 4K is still pretty strong on Linux. Yet, this AMD Ryzen 9 3950X has me eager to build a 2nd workstation.
@@RobCabreraCh if you've got a socket 1366 look up for ruclips.net/video/Viq1bSJHyAM/видео.html (you can find plenty of x5650 now on ebay for 5 dollars)
"If AMD wants to have any hope of us recommending a 3rd gen Threadripper, they're gonna have to pull a serious rabbit out of their hat." 3 months later: Runs Crysis on 3rd gen Threadripper in Software mode.
@@manaspradhan8041 That the entirety of the calculations are performed inside of the software itself (and therefore being computed by the CPU) instead of being passed on to an ASIC. In terms of graphics this means there is no GPU involved. That is also what software rendering is.
@@B20C0 Ik what you were referring to but the first thing that came to my mind was CPU rendering so software mode sounded weird. Software rendering didn't come to my mind lmao
@@manaspradhan8041 Ye, people are shit at naming things because you're right, everything requires software and hardware, no matter if it's hardware or software rendered :D
@@narojdebeste 16 years ago was the last time I built a gaming computer and about too again. It was an AMD rig too, but I seen Intel just dominate them shortly thereafter to last year.
Well, previous gens of AMD have some flaws to some specific workloads - only half of AVX speed. So TR2k has to go. And Ryzen 3000 had a random number generator bug which hopefully was just addressed by BIOS updates. So ... TR3k could be the one
@@Xenoray1 Threadripper 3k :- I'm about to end this man's while career .🤣😂
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Hmm, AMD know EXACTLY what they're doing - using Intel's apathy by DESTROYING everything Intel have at ALL points (or do you want to remain at 4 cores?)
"This thing is soo good that if AMD wants to have any hope of us recommending a 3rd gen Threadripper they are gonna have to pull a serious rabbit out of their hat" Oh how not ready we were!
Loving the amount of attention AMD is getting lately, and I appreciate your reviews. One of the ways I got into computers and eventually built my own (albeit, very cheap by your standards) is your videos and channel. Thanks y'all!
Intel also released white papers crapping on AMD for releasing a power draw metric (that AMD didn't call TDP - it was some other acronym and they also included their TDP values as well) which was measured in a similar way that Intel measures their TDP today (not maximum power draw but using a "average" synthetic workload).
Meanwhile at Intel they announce their CPU security vulnerability of the month in form of Zombieload V2. This is not even a competition at this point. This is a beat down.
actually, it is beating a dead horse because until Intels new Fabs are running, there is no hope to get back in the server market. And the margins in the DT-market are getting slim (for intels liking.
@@taco_annihilator Don't throw it in a metal grinder, feel free to send it to me along with its motherboard and I will cover the transportation costs :P
@@taco_annihilator an i7-6700 is still quite a respectable processor. I just upgraded to a Ryzen 5 3600 from my 6700k. It served me well for about 3 years, with no complaints. Being able to maintain a 4.8 GHz boost clock was really sweet on intensive loads with water cooling
intel: selling cpu for high price amd: create a cpu with more cores but at the same price also intel: cut down their upcoming cpu price consumer: i see this is an absolute win
@Warm Soft Kitty yeah, 2020 is gonna be a insane technological leap for everything basically future proofing is about getting a cpu and waiting for the next cpus and again eventually until we get to the point where we get past a certain fps cap and any higher than that is useless
@BrianByonVEVO That's pure delusion right there. AMD is yet to beat Intel's single-core perf., the history shows. AMD has failed for 10 years straight to bring a convincing product for gamers, and continues to fail to this day. This video was literally all about the multi-core perf and pcie 4.0 throughput that everyone will be on next year, which applies to absolutely no one but content and media creators, whom are like a handful of people in the world. AMD has said it many times they have zero interest in gaming and just want to get into the commercial sector.
? A 7980XE has beat the 3950X 2 years before it arrived and offers quad-channel memory which should be useful for anyone needing this many cores ... Bought my 7980XE at 700€ new and sealed from Ebay the other day, while a 3950X which I first took into consideration was 900€+ on Ebay. Even now 2 weeks later the 3950X is still way above 800€ in Europe ... The security breaches that only can be used with local hardware access and never have been used once worldwide before they have been fixed aren't really relevant for me and should not be an argument if you are not a so called "fanboy". While the server market could not care less and buys 99% Xeon CPUs the desktop kids who are not affected get a panic attack ... Cooling is not an argument either, both need water cooling anyways. Maybe the 3950X will be ok with a 360mm radiator, while you could go with a 480mm with the 7980XE, but then again who cares about 20$ more or less at this price point when you get additional performance and quad-channel? Also anyone who can afford either of these CPUs could not care less about 5$ more or less on the eletricity bill. These are workstation/desktop CPUs, not server CPUs that are running 24/7 ...
So that's why AMD went better by a long shot. Intel wasn't ready for this and they seriously miscalculated AMD getting close to their flagship CPU in benchmarks.
Dude, I've been pissed. I've been pissed off for 10 years, Intel screwing us. I've been buying intel, because Mac pisses me off. Then AMD 3000 series came, I bought a 3600X on sale... because we should ALL PUNISH intel for their insolence, and screwing us for the last 10 years. But I bought it because it was supposedly better, at a price point for performance. And the machine works. It works for much cheaper. Now I am going to buy a 3950X. This machine is so good my opinion is servers just should use 5 - 3950X instead of a EPYC (which is a good server machine, real good) because you can leverage with docker. AMD went fabless and joined the biggest contract manufacturer of chips, (TSMC) and it worked. Screw intel for screwing us for the last 10 years.
@@dylan.dog1 true that Dylan, I work for SaaS company, initially we were not using epyc or amd. Let's just say this: After covid, our servers were taking a beating with uptick use and sales. We had real time code updates to rid all the nasty code that caused spikes and bottlenecks. Our netops team, made a large order of intel and some epyc. Let me remind you these guys use intel, 95% of servers are intel. But 1st gen. Epyc they purchased 2 machines for testing. Because of covid, they decided to include cheaper and supposedly faster epyc machines. Long story short: we saw ++2x performance for each thread using epyc on test loading for our usage. Our CTO was astonished, as was the net ops team. They are not team anything, but when you gotta buy 12 servers, that stuff ain't cheap. Server speed, in general relies on 2 or 3 things: 1. Fast IO (fast to slow - Optane, SSD, cheaper but larger storage) 2. Fast CPU 3. Cache and bus can help
@@dylan.dog1 5nm is gonna be crazy. Actually, with that size, CPUs be running super cool as we have seen with 7nm, so with that processor from TSMC (the foundry for AMD NVIDIA etc), intel will lose so bad here: power consumption (but more importantly heat issues). If they can boost freq. higher, then it's game over for cpu specs.
When AMD launches someting like this directely before the Threadripper launch, that can only mean that Threadripper 3000 will be even more insane. Great time to be alive! :)
I have a feeling it's gonna be a productivity GODZILLA but not do as well in gaming, which is fine because threadripper is more meant for productivity anyway
@@Soleft as a student who uses all sorts of CAD software, Premier Pro, and likes to game a lot, this processor is a no brainer. the difference in gaming performance is negligible according to a lot of the reviews, and the productivity performance is well above intel. of course, if you are primarily gaming, intel would be the better choice, but ryzen is so close that if you are doing literally anything else other than gaming, even streaming, ryzen is the better option.
I was on AMD's testing team for the 3950X batches that were being shipped out to the press. There's a 1/6 chance the block Linus is handling got signed off by me. Amazing piece of hardware but not a very fun work experience, especially since we were contractors. I've worked for several big gaming and financial companies and never have I dealt with so much security. One of my teammates was the son of our supervisor and he had to be escorted off the campus and wait a week to come back because of a complication with his background check.
When no one else can beat AMD.
AMD: Fine I’ll do it myself.
By performance intel has been beating AMD for years. This year AMD turned it around though. Stop being a fanboy over a piece of sand turned into a cpu.
Edit: to those calling me a fanboy, you're a moron and you are misunderstanding my comment. I'll gladly by whatever cpu is better, I just have an i7 8700k so I won't be needing one for a long time but if AMD still holds the reins on the cpu market, I'll switch
Like aomine 'the only one who can beat me is me'
AMD is a cheapo brand for mediocres. that processor cannot reach 5.3- 5.4 ghz stable for gaming. who uses amd for workstation that brand always have and will have problems with drivers XD and or temps lol.. workstations need quad Xeon with Nvidia Quadro RTX 48gb cards.. ill say this is a brand for hobos
Hold my beer kid .. intel doing this since years ..
@lion heart dude.... yes in games, intel is still the king for that since well the KS is essentially a binned i9 9900k that does 5ghz outta the box....which is somewhat redundant and just another sku on the product stack t hat is intel... most i9's will do close to 5ghz or pretty much 5ghz out of the box with out much tweaking...like at all... AMD is more than just value at this point, its really the smarter buy! when its so ridiculously close to intel at boost clocks now....and not just a gaming CPU but a workload CPU if you choose..so really ya...they are killing it! seriously in gaming how many people are going to need a 150 plus fps at 1080p other than to play an esport title which are all pretty easy to run with almost any CPU.. who care if the I9 can do 500 plus fps in csgo at 1080p...you don't need it... most will game above that to utilize the hardware in their PC...why buy a 1080ti or a 2080ti to game at 1080p...just like why buy an i9 9900k to only game on it when its touted also as a workstation cpu as well and AMD's 3800x will beat it in work performance to and its cheaper...and it games like a beast!.. also own intel myself not a fanboy just know facts and what i see with my eyes lol..
4 years ago I would have never imagined amd would be murdering intel this bad
Murder? LOL nobody even expected AMD to make something "sensible". Oh well, good luck for Intel, karma hit them everywhere.
"Murdering Intel this bad."
Revenue increase for both companies from 2014 to 2018 (The heart of the CPU race)
AMD: $5.5 Billion to $6.5 Billion (+ $1 Billion)
Intel: $55.9 Billion to $70.8 Billion (+ $14.9 Billion) (Revenue increase is more than twice as much as AMDs 2018 Revenue)
Id say its more like AMD is a mosquito flying around in Intel face. It may suck some customers from Intel now, but eventually it'll get squished when Intel actually starts taking this CPU race serious.
@@alanbryson5738 Yeah but it's like Linus said a few WAN shows ago: This has long lasting effects. It makes Intel processors 'feel' inferior and these assumptions can last decades, like with AMDs 'they always run too hot'. This will hurt them in the long run. I haven't had an AMD since the Athlon XP 2000+, but I know my next processor will be team red.
@@RemizZ True and thats fine that theres a competitor to push Intel to do better at making a more competitive CPU for public consumers, but like I said, theyre not even taking this serious right now, it would waste more money to try and one-up AMD and try to put them out of business than to just ignore it. If Intel is making that much money then theres no way that they couldnt be making some sort of major breakthroughs in their CPU designs to match AMDs and making their CPUs affordable to the public. Its just a matter of they dont care right now.
@@alanbryson5738 most of that revenue came from big enterprise companies needing their server grade hardware. What happens now when they realize that they can get the same server grade performance with cheaper prices? Your analogy might be right, AMD is still a mosquito buzzing on Intel's face, but if they don't start doing something about it, remember what insect causes dengue and malaria,
Intel Vs. The Company She Told Them Not to Worry About
Amd went flat out this time
give this man the likes he deserves
I guess Intel is He and amd is she
this dude a deserves Subway's footlong
khushal khunt No in this case they are both he
AMD Surpases intel.
AMD: who's next?
Nvidia : sweating heavily
oh man, i really hope nvidia could win cuz ya know amd is literally kidnapping intel
Gasviation Yea, a monopoly in 1 industry is bad enough, but a monopoly in 2 interrelated industries would be horrifing.
PLEASE NOTE: I AM NOT SAYING AMD IS A MONOPOLY, BUT IF AMD DETHRONES INTEL COMPLETLY, AND DOES THE SAME TO NVIDIA, THEN IT WILL HAVE 2 MONOPOLIES.
TheMiningTeam
More like “ if it is my fav company then I like the monopoly “
@@loganiushere except AMD's graphics division and CPU division are two different companies under the same name. That's why Intel is against AMD in the CPU lineup, but is used by Intel in their Hades canyon nuc through Radeon graphics.
just hope radeon driver issues are sorted and amd are well on their way to going for the neck or nvidia as well, providing they want to give them competition at the extreme high end
AMD Executive: Release it
AMD marketing team: but sir, we'll kill our own products
AMD executive: I SAID RELEASE IT
@v KEITH v I get that. It just kinda obsoletes thread ripper as it takes up a similar price point. The other am4 chips will still have a place below it.
@@Grubbybump253 New threadripper coming out will be better than this. Otherwise, this would be a threadripper CPU
@@hoixthegreat8359 of course new thread ripper will be better. This just makes current thread ripper not as appealing.
@@Grubbybump253 Threadripper is for people that needs tons of PCIe lanes and memory. You can't do that on a consumer Ryzen chip. The people who need Threadripper will still use Threadripper. It does kind of eliminate the last gen of Threadripper though.
RELEASE THE KRAKEN
Seriously, AMD just hired an alien engineer out of area 51.
Mayy bee who knowss.🧐🧐
There is probably some sort of Anime being written from it. Lol
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Close..they hired Jim Keller from Apple. That guy has been the lead designer for many impressive processors. For example AMD K8..also known as Athlon64.
*Plot-twist:* AMD found Intel's secret drawer
Ryzen beats Threadripper:
I used the AMD to destroy the AMD
Spider man meme xD
lop LOP No it’s a Thanos meme
@@Dragontron20 no the spiderman pointing meme would be funny to
Dragontron20 NO ITS IN SPIDER MAN 2 NUBE GETE SCURBBED PN NERD
this is so cool comment please go on and create another cool comment on another youtube video
“Amd would have to pull a serious rabbit out of their hat for us to recommend 3rd gen threadripper”
AMD: hmm... how about a 64 core consumer chip?
L S sadly, kinda hard to justify that many cores with just 256gb RAM, that can become a bottleneck pretty quickly. If they supported registered DIMMs it’d be completely perfect, but I guess AMD is concerned with cannibalizing EPYC. If they made, let’s say, an unlocked and higher TDP EPYC-W spec, that’d be great too (if a bit pricey, dual $7000+ OC’d CPUs + 2TB RAM wholesale $15000 = ouch, both for Intel and your wallet)
@@romannasuti25 its weird to think of a bottleneck with 256gb of ram
@@jayvader9023 Yeah, but a ton of workstation workloads really chew through RAM. Hours of raw video, billions of particles in simulations, and billions of rows in local tables for stuff like Python or RDBMS data science can quickly break past that. Ironically, there's plenty of server workloads that this memory limit isn't an issue, but they don't work well with higher clock speeds as efficiency is paramount (web servers especially).
@@romannasuti25 i know it does bottleneck, but it is really weird to think about because i only know a lot about gaming computing stuff, im not really interested or enlightened in servers so it is just odd lol
@Kaoikay human eye can only see 30 fps
I am outraged that the ornamental plastic vegetation isn’t included.
Deal-breaker if you ask me
Andrew Warham yeah maybe it would kill intel if they added ornamental plastic vegetation
I read this just as that popped up...
Mediocre review 5/10
@Elliot Burns wtf is wong with you
Intel: Look at this big shiny 3D polygon thing! OoooOo isn’t it cool?!
AMD: *box*
I told that nigga, I box.
I would say, that AMD startet with the fancy boxes for cpus.
Technically AMD's box is a polygon too :D
Intel only uses that box because of Threadripper packaging.
BOX
Came here for the new modern dictionary
Linus: "closelier" 6:52
Wasn't disappointed
Also that plosive they missed at around the 1:34 mark I think
I first heard that on south park
I thought it was wrong, but it's actually legit: closelier
(rare, literary, dated) comparative form of closely: more closely
@@durden02 i just thought he mutated the closer and closely to became closelier.
I thought he said"closely here" like saying "if we look closely here"
Right?
I really had to turn my brain on when yo started racing through the graphs lol this has probably converted me to AMD, so excited for my next build!!
good boy
Imagine competing with yourself because there is no competition🤣
AMD: I see no God up here
OTHER THAN ME
That's what Intel did for years. It's just recently that they've been hitting back.
kalel33 that is true
Better than being complacent and thinking no one can rival you anymore or catch up.
Anonymous Random Zero depends on if the game (or application) uses all available cores or not. If it doesn‘t then yeah go for intel, but generally the KS is a weak throw on their part to try to catch up a little.
But even if only 8 cores are used, the frames more are not noticable.
Besides, go with the KF not KS, same for cheaper, although I‘d personally go with amd
-"Intel doesn't have much to compare..."
Never thought I'd hear those words put together. But here it is.
*sigh*
To quote Stephen Fry: "Hold the newsreader's nose firmly, waiter, or friendly milk will countermand my trousers."
I scrapped 2 dual xeon systems today, RIP.
"Intel could take years to catch up"
AMD stocks: *stonks*
Matsuhito i bought 10 AMD stocks and im so glad i did.
@@adrianalvarado7319 bought way more, lol
Bruh I bought amd stock before they released ryzen and sold it at a loss... kill me...
I Bought 225 AMD stocks when it was only $11
Me in April: Maybe could by buy some... Actually nah
Me now: Fuck
AMD employee: it's fast we did it
Amd boss: NO... NOT FAST ENOUGH
AMD employee: but sir we've beat them it's ove...
AMD boss: I SAID NOT FAST ENOUGH.
Say not enough until US government stepped in then AMD would declared enough is enough. Huawei and AMD have similar business model.
In this case it would be "but ma'am" instead of sir.
Lisa Su out here killing it!
@@Prometheus574 huh? That makes no sense. Are you the person who thinks Taiwan is China?
*angry lisa su noises*
@@VibezVideo they didn't ban Huawei to save apple, they did it because Huawei's main ceo, also has ties to the chinese government. Amd was founded in america.
When Linus excited for something you know it has to be good
Like when he wondered if he would ever get his data back?
Like when he did the dyson video?
He was excited for those libery 2 pro headphones...just had to send mine back b/c of a battery issue. Though customer service was easier to deal with than CanadaPost.
Linus is most excited when he is counting bribes from marketing departments!
Don’t trust Linus. Their company doesn’t even have benchmark numbers for intel HEDT which the 3950x is considered to be at $750. Stupid RUclips channel.
AMD: let's actually UPGRADE our processors so consumers can get the biggest bang for their buck
Intel: wait, that's illegal.
750 usd vfm..the fanboy is real
@@GennaiosFX the intel equivalent (i9-10980xe) is $1000, performs worse (3.0/4.6 ghz verses 3.5/4.7 ghz), uses more energy (165 watts verses 105 watts), and requires more expensive motherboard.
Fanboyism has nothing to do with it. AMD did very well here.
@@robertmarder126 He is talking to himself.. maybe?
and:
fans: excuses
@@robertmarder126 Dont forget the I9-9980XE's price was $2k
This is like a boxing match but amd was holding back till intel said something about amd's mother. Now it's just like Stop he's already dead
hahaha
🤣
Maybe Intel will have to start selling CPUs at a reasonable price.
AMD: wtf did u say abt my mum...
Intel: I said that ur mum is a fucking (insert here)
AMD: ...
Intel: lol hahahha
(KABOOM. Imagine the "oh? ur apporching me?)
Announcer: HOLY FUCK AMD JUST KILLED INTEL
AMD: WHAT THE FUCK DID U CALL MY MUM HUH.
Ref: dude chill hes dead
AMD: THATS RIGHT. YOU'RE FUCKING DEAD
HAHAHAHAHAH
@@dpocohc 😂
Intel: "Look at our amazing lineup of 9th gen processors!"
AMD: "pfft, Ryzen 3000 series"
Intel: "Look at our amazing lineup of 10th and 11th gen p..."
AMD: "Ryzen 4000 series"
Intel: ...
AMD: "Ryzen 5000 series"
AMd: keep giving me that look and I launch the 6000 series next week!
For what most DIY people buy components for which is gaming / browsing the web an 8700k is still better than a 3950x
@@bsx132 the problem is you're comparing a 6 core to a 16 core.....and this thing is aimed at high end systems not causal stuff. Even then a ryzen 3600 exist
@@nrvinl It doesn't matter how many cores it is, the 8700k / 9600k is better than anything AMD makes for gaming and people act like its not true. The i7 10700k will be better than anything AMD has for gaming even next gen.
bsx132 Do you really think that the world revolves around gaming ? Intel are slightly better than AMD by what ? 10 ish fps ? For + 150$ ?
Linus: "I haven't been this excited since I got a quad core in 2006"
Me: "I still have a quad core... in 2020..." :(
Aidan Hill damn bro they had some really good sales on 6 cores these holidays
You’re not alone :(
I still had dual core until 5 months ago 😂
LOL in 2020 and still on quad core. Though its the 3770k from 2012.
Me too :(
But I'll probably upgrade this year to 12 or 16 cores.
"no one can hurt me so i hurt myself"
-amd flexing on the universe
I don't think me investing in their product where I wouldn't before will really hurt them.
Aliens shaking in their observation posts: *when did they get their hands on our technology?!?*
AMD was able to overtake Intel because Intel chose short-term profitability and let their technology stagnate in the process. It looks like AMD won't be repeating that mistake.
Neolexious Neolexian
Intel has been doing for that a while, as soon as they got above AMD they did that.
@@neolexiousneolexian6079 AMD has frequently pushed the limitations of hardware while Intel has been sitting on their throne. It's been a good thing mostly as it's driven innovation from both teams one upping one another. Though honestly the advantages Intel have gained have often been down to better software support in my experience. Even now a lot of software used by content creators suffers a bit on AMD hardware, graphics vs nVidia as well though.
A manufactorer actually delivers what thay promised.
Everyone: what the hell??
*suprised face intensifies*
Nice one
Apple:delivered
Amd:delivered
Paramount:delivered sonic
WHAAAAT
@@hamzamasmoudi8532 😂😂😂😂😂🤣
intelsifies
Manufacturer = TSMC
Intel: *releases 9990k*
AMD: call an ambulance
*pulls out Ryzen 9 3950x*
AMD: but not for me
Underrated comment
But uno reverse card for gaming
For gaming tho idkkkk
its more expensive tho.
@@insainperson6018 because it's actually worth the price
“i had a 4 core in 2006” and i have a 4 core processor in 2019
thank that to intel. It took them a eternity to get more than 4 cores on a mainstream platform. that would have never happened without ryzen.
*2 core processor
@@HeavyMetalGamingHD And yet we need no more than 8-12 cores, but we need them stronger. And both amd and intel are having smaller and smaller cores with each process node and or the same size cores with the same process nodes. Basically trying to sell us server CPUs for the desktop.
@@rattlehead999 Everyone may not agree with me but I am very happy with this. For rendering multiple things on different programs at once, this makes me happy. I also run a home server and like to code up some games too.
What a kick ass processor, I will be buying one today and new board that goes with it :). I'll give my wife my 1900x with 1080ti, I'll throw some RGB in the case for her too.
@@rattlehead999
nothing wrong with more core dude
look out ure phone they already have 8 core for a long time now
why do u still wanted few core?????
This is like YuGiOh when you sacrifice your own monster to summon a stronger monster. Don't blink cuz amd is about to attack intel's life points directly.
lmao!!
And Intel is complately out of Monster Reborn cards (ie. their 14nm SKUs). But it doesn't end there..... to add insult to injury, Intel also couldn't even manage to lay down any Trap cards either (ie. their discrete GPUs), which look like they'll just end up going nowhere).
*Son... you just made my day!XD*
Always appreciate a yugioh comment.
It's sad that you waste so much time playing games, instead of doing something creative or productive.
Your mom wants you to wash the dishes, and clean the garage. Then meet a nice girl and get married.
All these years while Intel's dominating the market, AMD's dominating development.
oof
Laptops gotta stop using intel. Zen architecture draws less power for the same task so battery life will be much better
@@postconsolepeasant6538 Only problem with ryzen 4000 mobile is that the thermals sucks. the ryzen 7 4800h runs at 100c under load.
@@ianarthur4442 That is clearly not the fault of the chip, but the thermal designs that a lot of laptop manufacturers are implementing with these CPUs. If you took a 4800H and an i7 10750H in the exact same cooling design/configuration, the Ryzen will run cooler. There are some Ryzen 4000 laptops out there like the Eluktronics RP-15 which do not have a thermal constrained design.
@@ianarthur4442 where?
2019: "intel could take years to catch up"
2020 "intel could take decades to catch up
So true
then millennia
The only good thing about intel right now is that in the UK, an i7 10700k is cheaper and better than ryzen 7 3700x
@@samismydog So FALSE
2022: Intel will take weeks to catch up
Intel has been re-releasing the same cpu for a decade. Finally, AMD is forcing them to do something.
I think they planned to switch to 6 cores but I doubt they would have done that with 8th Gen I think they wouldve just waited until 10th Gen then released 6 core variants
@@Oliver-bn7jt definitely 🤣 they were deliberately holding things back to make way more profit, Intel is one shitty company
Introducing the new 11900k, 4 cores 8 threads 5.5ghz 95w tdp 14nm +++++++++++. For the low price of only $599
@@maxview99 accurate
That is so true, they have kept their old chips on sale and give them new serial numbers because the average person does not need high specs and because wage deflation since 2003 has made people wait longer to upgrade and the phone market has been chipping away at game sales.
AMD: Aight, lets let linus review our product.
Intel: Wait, that’s illegal
Underrated
@@thebigbeje wait this isnt real world performance
@@thebigbeje Intel:"We have better processors for real world performance"
AMD:"Good excuse"
Can someone please tell me why and isn’t already annihilating intel in the low, mid, and high end with the most reasonable pricing and why people will still by intel instead of the cheaper and possibly better and counterpart?
@@immortaldev1489 Why does Apple still exist?
Anyone else disappointed that they didn't get to watch a cinebench run?
intel: *thats not real life representation
I wasn't, but now I am. :(
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At this point even intel engineers are using amd chips at their homes
@Joe Al lol but it may be true
@Joe Al aapke pitaji?
amd cpus and Radeon cards are used to design Intel chips
"Why do you need 16 cores?! Human eyes can only see 4 cores!" - Intel fanbots
Wins the comments
- Nobody*
This should be top comment.
@@RngmonsterX *visible confusion*
@@RngmonsterX
Lol amd ryzen 5 at 43% usage competes well with an intel core i5 who at 93% usage lol
I'm just here to look at things I can't afford.
Save $20-30 a month for 2 years and you can afford a decent setup. Cut out fast food. Eat at home more. You can do it man!
@@manthe3711 calm down man
@@manthe3711 i think you're mad at him because he's just like you and you hate yourself so you're mad at him 😡😤😤
@@manthe3711 are you talking about yourself ??
@@manthe3711 he may not be 18
The best thing: The ryzen 9 is supported by older mainboards via bios update.
Intel: You need a new chipset = mainboard.
Also intel motherboards cost more.
@MultiWirth They are but if your buying a 3950x you should really run it x570 board. Can’t image my C6H playing to well with this CPU especially when I OC it
@@HlspwnsWorld I don't care much about OC or pci-e 4.0 so i think i would be fine using my existing board and since the cpu is on the compatibility list, it should run fine.
@@HlspwnsWorld Chipset has nothing to do with power and it seems like this 3950X draws less of it than the previous gen 2700X overclocked.
@@HlspwnsWorld There's some articles and videos out there of people trying the 12 core on the cheapest b350 boards they could find and at stock they ran just fine. Obviously you have to be more picky about memory and overclocking was a no-go on a B350 board but otherwise it ran to spec. Given that the 16 core runs cooler and with less volts at heavier workloads it should run even better then the 12 core did on lower end stuff, which is crazy.
That’s what happens when you have a smart engineer for a CEO.
I’m so confused on why a tech channel would sell underwear.
Ahh it’s for the intel users after seeing this.
@ In the front, back, or both?
Jimmy Boab 💀😂😂
@@ikkuranus You can go cheap or high-end (it's LTT after all ). High end can take the full monty - the mother of all loads...front, back, down, up - very versatile.
Gotta diversify that portfolio.
And Linus just thought it was a cool concept. Check out some WAN Show archives for the deets.
All shills are bad.
All fanboys are bad.
Doesn't matter which company or product.
Being a fanboy makes you dumb.
AMD - " almost *KILLING* their own MORE LUCRATIVE lineups!!!!!!"
XIAOMI - " first time? "
lolllll
Meme lord
Thank you for that that was funny af
wrr
True🤣
I love the real competition after all those years Intel was unbeatable.
Formulka this, I thought AMD was never going to come back even when ryzen 1 gen released, and now they are back to the top.
@@hochhaul I think that's even their slogan, "4 Cores Inside".
Oh my god its like a breath of fresh air
Yeah agree, the more competition the better customers will get.
I still believe, if AMD weren't fightback with their Ryzen series. i3 will still 2c/4t, i5 with 4c/4t anddd... i7 with 4c/8t
Hope Intel will comeback stronger in 2021/2022.
Until then for me Ryzen is the "best cpu" right now
You know what's the best thing that happend: that Intel's only good competitor wasn't like intel. Cuz monopoly with 2 players could also be screwd up for us....
But love the fact that amd was focusing on other things compared to intel and was different than just a cheaper version of intel with an other name.
And thx to them even intel had to do their best and become more innovative..
AMD - So, no one can compete me now.
Also AMD - hold my beer.
Again AMD - *holds beer with other hand.*
笑 笑 笑
"It SLICES, it DICES, THERES NOTHING IT CANT DO!!!!"
Lisa Su: "This Linux tech guy can sell anything!!" 😂😂😂
kek
@Conor no it didn't.
That's not funny
@@yz50131 speak English
FX 6300: Who are you?
Ryzen: I am you, but better.
I almost cried with this bro...is like odst and Spartans :')...
Still using fx-6300 lol
fx6300: i am old but not obsolete
*terminator reference*
Used mine until two weeks ago. Nostalgia hitting already
Im using one rn, I plan to upgrade this black Friday
AMD next year : "5nm!"
Intel: "Just add a +"
@Kappa yeah they are, yeah you're wrong, and now go cry some more
5nm is coming in 2021 though, with zen4, zen3 will be released next year with 7nm+ process
@Kappa this isn't 2012 anymore. Time to put away the FX series memes.
Some parts of the chip are 7nm, some aren't.
Like buying "fruit juice" that has 1% of real fruit, but they can still call it fruit juice as a whole.
@@shernandez31 which is weird since there is a big problem when you go less than 7nm, it begins to enter in the quantum physics limitations. Perhaps we will see the last gen of conventional processors in the next couple years.
I JUST SAW REVEAL OF 5950X ...AND LOL INTEL DOES NOT EVEN EXIST
IT WINS EVEN IN GAMING AND I DONT WANT TO TALK ABOUT MULTITHREAD PERFORMANCE HAHAHHAHAHAHA
Amd deploying technology from a crashed alien ship
Ok
They should switch names with alienware
LOL
Gaahh... Such an overused joke, implying that humanity can't be intelligent...
@@MarcABrown-tt1fp I see you are a man of very intelligent taste my friend
"RGB SSDs are even cooler"
Gamer's Nexus would like to have a word with you!
That jayz vid was also quite scary, LED's burning out PC's, who would've those
@@chillhour6155 To be fair Jays was just broken. I have that exact drive he had in my nieces computer and its no warmer than a standard SSD and performs exactly the same as other similarly rated SSDs.
Well Steve had an ad spot for _this exact drive_ on Ask GN 109 not too long ago, so I dunno about that.
AMD now doesn't compete with Intel, they compete with themselves
That's not a good place to be, and that would suck for the consumer. That's exactly what happened to Intel and why they've stagnated and what we're seeing with Nvidia and their 50 bajillion SKUs and skyrocketing prices.
they really do lol.
AMD is not as stupid as Intel. They learn from their mistakes.
i watched at least 2 minutes of an amd ryzen threadripper ad before realizing it was actually an ad and not this video
For a while this has been Nvidia's way of life.
linus: if amd wants us to recommend 3rd gen thread ripper, they're going to pull out a serious rabbit
amd: *observe*
*AMD: I used Ryzen to destroy Ryzen.*
"Now, I am the Ryzen!"
-The Ryzen
Endgame referencesss
@@SuperSable no shit sherlock
.
Ajay Babu Sherlock Holmes reference
When you decapitate your enemy so hard that you accidentally cut off your own leg.
AMD: "... Eh, worth it."
Gruesome but real comment.
They have 15 more legs.
Volvith They'll grow 2 more legs in a week
@Dr. Dro II no its AMD that lost the shin in this scenario.
This comment has monthy phyton vibes
The future proofing on the AM4 platform is ridiculous when you can go from a 2C/4T Athlon to a 16C/32T CPU that will eat Intel workstations for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
DON'T FORGET THE SNACK
@@bachhunghoang midnight Snack
Now that's a hefty diet.
And still have room for an entire pie for dessert.
Let me be the buzzkiller here by saying you probably wouldn't want the 3950X in the motherboard you bought with your Athlon, but nonetheless the flexibility of AM4 is truely amazing. And of course you still totally could put the 3950X in the cheapest AM4 and it would work (assuming bios compatibility).
Rewatching this after the 5950X, damn another nail in the coffin lake (haha get it)
Lmfao
lol
lol i get the joke but imagine a lake full of coffins
@@satanic_priestess oh that'd be awesome
@@satanic_priestess filled with all of Intels products
Athlon 64: "I'm proud of you"
I miss my 3800+
Jim Keller's children...
@@kacasio1 Fun fact: the infinity fabric is Jim Keller's design that makes the chiplet strategy work. The core microarchitecture is the other engineers, which kinda makes me feel better that they can keep improving the architecture on their own. Hopefully they can speed up the IF too someday.
Personally Athlon 64 was more choking than Ryzen, Athlon was at least 30% more in single core and 40% en multicore than the Intel equivalent.
*Crying Athlon XP sounds*
"SSDs are cool. But RGB SSDs are cooler."
Uhh, not literally.
gotta run it with blue RGB for cooling
I laughed too hard than I should.
I had actually skipped that this made me go watch it
Actually they are hotter because it's more power to light it up
@@DanielTubul it's a joke xd
6:55
"When we look a bit closelylier"
That's some Linus-speak right there.
Just mere seconds after he impressed me with his "must...mustn't it?" :D ruclips.net/video/stM2CPF9YAY/видео.html
Was looking for this.
Again, closelylier is a perfectly cromulent word....
@@epiccollision there's a word for that. It's called "closer".
Dumitru Alin Serban I said it was cromulent what’s there not to understand?
6:55
"When you look a bit closelier"
Linus - November 14, 2019
"This thing is so good, that if AMD wants us to recommend 3rd gen Threadripper they're going to have to pull a serious rabbit out of their bag" - foreshadowing
They have a 64 core 128 thread chip coming out within the next year for probably around $2,600 to $3,400 so this isnt killing that series yet.
@@LastoftheFalcons I know. A 64 core/128 thread desktop part! I haven't got any vaguely reasonable use case for it (hell, my 3900X was overkill) but my inner geek wants it... It wants the preciousssss....
@@paranoidrodent right!?! Lol. If I bought it it would only be so I had the processing power to both have a project being rendered or video being engested. WHILE streaming and gaming at the same time. It would be rather nice to have 1 pc that to be blunt will last a solid decade of use just needing a new graphics card once every three to five years.
I could see such a part being very useful for a multi-platform developer who uses virtual machines to test his compiles. Like a Mozilla or Linux developer or something.
7NM+
I used to run AMD when the fx series came out and i was laughed at, So i changed to intel and now im getting laughed at again. I just cant win :(
Honestly I ran a FX 8350 for years and it ran games just fine. I could stream/record while playing games. Never had an issue with the FX series. Kept that CPU until I upgraded to the 1800x.
@@jonmcentire Yeah thats what i was running, it really was great. Im running an i5 8600k atm but when the time comes to upgrade i think it will be amd again
JustinTime same with me 😔
still using a fx 6300 and no plan to upgrade yet...its running pretty well with a gtx 1050 ...granted I have kinda stopped gaming in general and I dont do any editing. Though I must say I got a very noticeable boost in performance after installing windows10 ltsc, once all the bloatware is gone windows 10 is a very nice light os
I upgraded from my FX6300 i bought in 2012 to a ryzen 2600 just 2 months ago. While old a.f. I could still play new games. and since I had a 720p display and can live with 30 fps it was alright.
I feel the need to build a computer again. After 10 years. It’s time.
I know the feeling. 7 years for me, but the i7 Haswell with (recent upgrade) AMD Radeon RX 590 in splendid dual 4K is still pretty strong on Linux. Yet, this AMD Ryzen 9 3950X has me eager to build a 2nd workstation.
@@BruceBigby Still rocking 1600 and gtx 1070.
It works.
After this, I'm feeling the same thing. My workstation with an extreme edition i7 now performs about the same as a mid range laptop.
@@RobCabreraCh if you've got a socket 1366 look up for ruclips.net/video/Viq1bSJHyAM/видео.html (you can find plenty of x5650 now on ebay for 5 dollars)
Yea, floppy disk are not to useful nowadays
Linus:I couldn’t wait for a quad core cpu in 2006
Me: *Laughs in dual core cpu in 2020*
AMD to Intel- “Look at me. I am the Captain now.”
Studio C??
AMD: "Intel, everything gonna be NOT OK!!!"
You mean again... AMD killed Intel back when the P4 was out. But this time Intel cannot play any dirty tricks anymore.
When we look a little bit closelyer
-Linus 2019
6:55 Closelyer
Closelyer is a perfectly cromulent word....
@@epiccollision I'll be sure to order a cromulent next time I go out for a meal :D Sounds tasty !
@@epiccollision You might say that it embiggens the English lexicon most eloquaciously.
@@Inscydeus :D most hilarious indeed.
"When we look a bit closlier" ( 6:55 )
Linus-2019
Beastmodplayer Dropping some big league vocab. 6:55
@@albertotr1 Linus is all about dat life
Closlier
it's written "closelier"
@@ErnestHemingwayy Fixed I edited it thank you
"If AMD wants to have any hope of us recommending a 3rd gen Threadripper, they're gonna have to pull a serious rabbit out of their hat."
3 months later:
Runs Crysis on 3rd gen Threadripper in Software mode.
What does software mode mean lmao
@@manaspradhan8041 That the entirety of the calculations are performed inside of the software itself (and therefore being computed by the CPU) instead of being passed on to an ASIC. In terms of graphics this means there is no GPU involved.
That is also what software rendering is.
@@B20C0 Ik what you were referring to but the first thing that came to my mind was CPU rendering so software mode sounded weird. Software rendering didn't come to my mind lmao
@@manaspradhan8041 Ye, people are shit at naming things because you're right, everything requires software and hardware, no matter if it's hardware or software rendered :D
Been 13 years since I had an AMD, might be time to try them again.
Theres no reason to buy high end intel anymore
Don't be deserter now, Intel's 14nm still has a good 40MHz in it not to mention the nostalgia! ;)
I’m gonna wait one more generation before I make the switch.
@@narojdebeste 16 years ago was the last time I built a gaming computer and about too again. It was an AMD rig too, but I seen Intel just dominate them shortly thereafter to last year.
they rocked when the Athlons came out and they return again for another duke with intel
When you’re in the future and you know the threadripper has 64 cores
Boi the moment gamers will probably refer to some time in the future
ThreadRipper to AMD: "Did you do it?"
AMD: "yes"
ThreadRipper: "What did it cost?"
AMD: *looks at ThreadRipper 2000 lineup* .... *"Everything"*
Threadripper 3000: let me to introduce myself!
Well, previous gens of AMD have some flaws to some specific workloads - only half of AVX speed. So TR2k has to go. And Ryzen 3000 had a random number generator bug which hopefully was just addressed by BIOS updates. So ... TR3k could be the one
@@Xenoray1 Threadripper 3k :- I'm about to end this man's while career .🤣😂
Hmm, AMD know EXACTLY what they're doing - using Intel's apathy by DESTROYING everything Intel have at ALL points (or do you want to remain at 4 cores?)
@ Still waiting to see the upcoming mobile products from AMD. Intel is going to try and hold onto that market for dear life.
"This thing is soo good that if AMD wants to have any hope of us recommending a 3rd gen Threadripper they are gonna have to pull a serious rabbit out of their hat"
Oh how not ready we were!
Amd just went full rambo on intel. Cant wait for the k.o
alexii thats Rocky
Just joking
alexii AMD still fucking sucks
@@Khloya69 hahaha
@@daktus05 ahah yeah my bad
@@Khloya69 well yes but no
Loving the amount of attention AMD is getting lately, and I appreciate your reviews. One of the ways I got into computers and eventually built my own (albeit, very cheap by your standards) is your videos and channel. Thanks y'all!
Come to the Red team side.. We got lots of threads!
TheMrminimario but what about cookies?
@@JuanGarcia-bz3lj You can have upward of 128 GB/more worth of cookies.
The AMD-threads that Intel dreads.
Already at red side since 2012
I wanna keep my 5.2ghz for gaming >:(
Intel: look at our new cpu!1!1!!111
AMD: (casually whips out a new cpu that’s been sitting there for a year)
Anyone remembers intel laughing at AMDs glued together CPUs on release?
Intel also released white papers crapping on AMD for releasing a power draw metric (that AMD didn't call TDP - it was some other acronym and they also included their TDP values as well) which was measured in a similar way that Intel measures their TDP today (not maximum power draw but using a "average" synthetic workload).
@@emu071981 And of course Intel has a history of actually gluing multiple cpus together. Ala Pentium D...
Now they're gonna start doing the same
Still laughing in gaming lol
@@benrodir2 You're kidding right?
Meanwhile at Intel they announce their CPU security vulnerability of the month in form of Zombieload V2.
This is not even a competition at this point. This is a beat down.
actually, it is beating a dead horse because until Intels new Fabs are running, there is no hope to get back in the server market. And the margins in the DT-market are getting slim (for intels liking.
Its a bloodbath.
*Cries in i7-6700* I'm a paycheck or two away from getting a Ryzen 3600 and throwing my CPU in a metal grinder.
@@taco_annihilator Don't throw it in a metal grinder, feel free to send it to me along with its motherboard and I will cover the transportation costs :P
@@taco_annihilator an i7-6700 is still quite a respectable processor. I just upgraded to a Ryzen 5 3600 from my 6700k. It served me well for about 3 years, with no complaints. Being able to maintain a 4.8 GHz boost clock was really sweet on intensive loads with water cooling
"I'm almost excited about this CPU as I am about my -sponsor- segue to our sponsor."
Never change Linus, never change
Did you just type “segue”
@@deennice6035 hahahaaha man so formal
@@deennice6035 Well yeah, Linus said it and I was kinda, you know, quoting
@@MrMiddleWick stop quoting? I know what was in the video. I watched it as well.
3min faster render speeds on the BWM blender scene is...amazing - because not even going from a 1060 to a 2080 gives you that much.
intel: selling cpu for high price
amd: create a cpu with more cores but at the same price
also intel: cut down their upcoming cpu price
consumer: i see this is an absolute win
Diy Stuff competition is good for everyone
@Warm Soft Kitty No! Really? Wow! Thanks you!... It's obvious that nobody's gonna buy that for gaming only damn it.
@Warm Soft Kitty yeah, 2020 is gonna be a insane technological leap for everything basically future proofing is about getting a cpu and waiting for the next cpus and again eventually until we get to the point where we get past a certain fps cap and any higher than that is useless
@Warm Soft Kitty uhhhh wut??? ofcourse they have, like you don't need to buy a god damnn new CPU for a couple year
when the ddr5 come out, wellllll you properly have to wait for it to low down the price to the aver like ddr4 just like x570 MB
Amd has just put an Olympic level sprinter in a middle school race
Intel: why do I hear boss music
*Giorno's theme begins to play*
MVP commenter
holy shit the game auto saved
Hahahaha
@BrianByonVEVO That's pure delusion right there. AMD is yet to beat Intel's single-core perf., the history shows. AMD has failed for 10 years straight to bring a convincing product for gamers, and continues to fail to this day. This video was literally all about the multi-core perf and pcie 4.0 throughput that everyone will be on next year, which applies to absolutely no one but content and media creators, whom are like a handful of people in the world. AMD has said it many times they have zero interest in gaming and just want to get into the commercial sector.
0:34 (Bottom Right) "*Ornamental plastic vegetation not included"
Umm, Okay!
AMD: The only who can beat me is me.
AMD Daiki
Arduino micro
hehe kuroko reference
?
A 7980XE has beat the 3950X 2 years before it arrived and offers quad-channel memory which should be useful for anyone needing this many cores ... Bought my 7980XE at 700€ new and sealed from Ebay the other day, while a 3950X which I first took into consideration was 900€+ on Ebay. Even now 2 weeks later the 3950X is still way above 800€ in Europe ...
The security breaches that only can be used with local hardware access and never have been used once worldwide before they have been fixed aren't really relevant for me and should not be an argument if you are not a so called "fanboy". While the server market could not care less and buys 99% Xeon CPUs the desktop kids who are not affected get a panic attack ...
Cooling is not an argument either, both need water cooling anyways. Maybe the 3950X will be ok with a 360mm radiator, while you could go with a 480mm with the 7980XE, but then again who cares about 20$ more or less at this price point when you get additional performance and quad-channel?
Also anyone who can afford either of these CPUs could not care less about 5$ more or less on the eletricity bill. These are workstation/desktop CPUs, not server CPUs that are running 24/7 ...
@@SURO90 isn't that thing also $2000?
"What sacrifice did team red had to do to do this?"
Probably blood.
And souls.
Skulls for the skull throne.
They followed the instruction from a slayer song.
@@theq4602 Raining Blood :)
hmm that brings me to the idea of a bloodcooling cycle xD
I only have a 3900X, but I have no fear: those extra cores will be available for download soon enough.
Rick Grommon all 50 of them!
I have yet to cap out my 2700x lol I might have to wait till Ryzen 4 just to make sure I get my money's worth first lol.
Haha nice😂
I like the way you say ‘only’ like it’s a cheap processor lol
I mean considering that techinically those 4 extra cores are still there on the dies... yes yes you could...
"amd is killing other more lucrative parts of their own product line"
lmao I love amd soo much
"What sacrifices did they do!?"
A blood sacrifice!
Intel's blood, to be more precise! XD
Gives "Team Red" a whole new meaning.🩸 🤣🩸
No, not if you look “closelier”
Blue Blood
I need this.
1st thing on my to do list for tomorrow:
Get a raise!
get a raisen
@@lerifixI'm not mad, just disappointed
Sell a kidney
You have a job!
You`re self-employed, arent you?
Remember when intel laid off 12K because of their market dominance and slow progression? They all went to AMD
So that's why AMD went better by a long shot. Intel wasn't ready for this and they seriously miscalculated AMD getting close to their flagship CPU in benchmarks.
That's why Rajiv Kaduri left AMD for Intel.
Dude, I've been pissed. I've been pissed off for 10 years, Intel screwing us. I've been buying intel, because Mac pisses me off. Then AMD 3000 series came, I bought a 3600X on sale... because we should ALL PUNISH intel for their insolence, and screwing us for the last 10 years. But I bought it because it was supposedly better, at a price point for performance. And the machine works. It works for much cheaper. Now I am going to buy a 3950X. This machine is so good my opinion is servers just should use 5 - 3950X instead of a EPYC (which is a good server machine, real good) because you can leverage with docker.
AMD went fabless and joined the biggest contract manufacturer of chips, (TSMC) and it worked. Screw intel for screwing us for the last 10 years.
but for server is better something with more ram capacity and pci line like threadripper or epic
@@dylan.dog1 true that Dylan,
I work for SaaS company, initially we were not using epyc or amd. Let's just say this:
After covid, our servers were taking a beating with uptick use and sales. We had real time code updates to rid all the nasty code that caused spikes and bottlenecks.
Our netops team, made a large order of intel and some epyc. Let me remind you these guys use intel, 95% of servers are intel. But 1st gen. Epyc they purchased 2 machines for testing.
Because of covid, they decided to include cheaper and supposedly faster epyc machines. Long story short: we saw ++2x performance for each thread using epyc on test loading for our usage.
Our CTO was astonished, as was the net ops team. They are not team anything, but when you gotta buy 12 servers, that stuff ain't cheap.
Server speed, in general relies on 2 or 3 things:
1. Fast IO (fast to slow - Optane, SSD, cheaper but larger storage)
2. Fast CPU
3. Cache and bus can help
@@shawnchong5196 if first gen is already 2x faster imagine 3rd gen
@@dylan.dog1 5nm is gonna be crazy. Actually, with that size, CPUs be running super cool as we have seen with 7nm, so with that processor from TSMC (the foundry for AMD NVIDIA etc), intel will lose so bad here: power consumption (but more importantly heat issues). If they can boost freq. higher, then it's game over for cpu specs.
Man you're pissed you need to chill. Youve been pissed for 10 yrs, not to mention on Mac too lol
When AMD launches someting like this directely before the Threadripper launch, that can only mean that Threadripper 3000 will be even more insane. Great time to be alive! :)
How long you figure they'll take to release that?
@@reppy0757 Threadripper gen 3 was already announced. Low end TRs will release Nov 25. Their flagship TR will launch January.
you mean insanelier
What about the Ryzen 4k series? ;)
I have a feeling it's gonna be a productivity GODZILLA but not do as well in gaming, which is fine because threadripper is more meant for productivity anyway
0:36 right corner
"Ornamental plastic vegetation not included"
YES! new episode of "I want to buy but I can't buy because I'm broke" season 10
1 season per year ye?
Get a job then
Wober Ragner you can have a job and still not be able to afford cutting edge PC components lol.
@@derek9218 I have a well payed job and do freelance work beside it. Still expensive to buy these things.
Peanut yeah it’s definitely not the kind of thing you would tell someone “get a job” for not being able to afford lol.
This is awesome!
I just wish now that AMD would spend more time improving software for it like the chipset driver for Windows 7 and Linux.
Linus: “I’m almost as excited about it as I am about this segw-“
Me: *violently abuses the right side of my screen*
Yup saw that coming miless awaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ................................
If you know you know.
Wot
Because you were riding on a Segway instead of a segue?
Ew, a mobile viewer
No one:
Linus: “Now if we look a bit
C L O S E L I E R”
Insert linus meme below
Closer gets an upgrade. Why? Cos it's C L A S S L I E R.
I thought that was his friend's name.
CLOSE *LIE* R
Now I'm scared of what their next Threadripper will be like
it will rip a thread in the Universe
it will rip apart every thread in intel CPUs.
it will rip all of intel's employees's underwears! threads! ripped! XD
Threadripper 32 core 64 threads. Epyc already has a 64 core 128 thread CPU package out.
Why are you scared? You have stock in Intel?
intel: *crawls out of grave*
AMD: I’ve been waiting for you *shoots in head*
Intel: our i9-9900k has now finally 16 Threads!
AMD: Hold my beer.
@@Soleft as a student who uses all sorts of CAD software, Premier Pro, and likes to game a lot, this processor is a no brainer. the difference in gaming performance is negligible according to a lot of the reviews, and the productivity performance is well above intel. of course, if you are primarily gaming, intel would be the better choice, but ryzen is so close that if you are doing literally anything else other than gaming, even streaming, ryzen is the better option.
AMD: Hold my cores!
@Secretly a celebrity And you're using them 99% of the time to open Chrome and browse social media, grats.
i am in use 9900k run 4.4all core and auto boost 5.0ghz with 2core one time , tdp 110W.
16 cores aint a thread. Go back to school fanboy
There has to be a dark ritual involved to get this chip into existence.
Gilfoyle from Pied Piper was probably involved then. ;-)
There is. It'll enslave you at night, while you think you sleep...
They made Jihad, won the 70+ virgins, sacrificed them. *tadaa*
haha someone is awake here and know where our tech comes from
Sure, just tap 1 black mana.
With 1st gen Ryzen AMD took out the knife
With 2nd gen, they sunk it into Intel's chest
Now with 3rd gen they just keep twisting
Eh.... SCP still wasnt good enough on second gen. But I mostly agree with you.
With 4th generation it will finally pull the knife out and bury intel
How about the salt and lemon juice??
Forgetting who they're trying to compete with? "You should've gone for the head" "clicks fingers"
@@chadliampearcy
Lemon juice THEN salt. The salt will burn too much for the lemon juice to be of any worthwhile effect. Don't ask how I know.
I was on AMD's testing team for the 3950X batches that were being shipped out to the press. There's a 1/6 chance the block Linus is handling got signed off by me. Amazing piece of hardware but not a very fun work experience, especially since we were contractors. I've worked for several big gaming and financial companies and never have I dealt with so much security. One of my teammates was the son of our supervisor and he had to be escorted off the campus and wait a week to come back because of a complication with his background check.