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Yep! Lots of ways to do this kind of thing. Coffee beans and rice are another popular one, spread out on a table and traced. I just wanted to offer a different option. And, I like this one because it forces you to look closely at Earth's geology, which is also helpful.
I've been working on some (this far vague) notions of a fantasy map modeled a bit on western North America. It even has an analog of Baja California, but it's an island rather than a peninsula.
You’re actually wrong about Westeros being just great Britain flipped the opposite direction it’s actually Great Britain just facing it’s normal direction with an upside down Ireland stuck to the bottom. You can see that clearly by looking at regions like the Vale and Flint’s Finger.
I'll concede it's not a *perfect* comparison, but I was focused on the tip of Dorne being on the east whereas the South West Peninsula is, well, facing west.
I use real-world maps all the time. Turn them 90 degrees and change the scale and you've got a great starting point. The west coast of the continent my players are on now is really the north coast of Siberia, turned 90 degrees and the scale changed to what I needed.
I don't agree with this. Yes it's a straight line from Lindon to Gondor, but what else would it be? Little islands? And coasts aren't really that rocky, many are very soily and without much rock, like Florida, the Gulf, northern France, Ukraine, and much of Brazil. Some do have more complex shapes, such as Finland. And also (current me if I'm wrong on this, but you implied it) with Middle Earth fitting into a box, it may fit into a box, but much of that box would be sea. It still has complex shapes, such as the lands of the Lossoth, Lindon, Gondor's coast, and in the earlier days Númenor and Nevrost.
You would cry if you saw the one (and I believe only) world map I've made. Although to be fair it was never intended to be used as an accurate proper map, it's not even to scale with itself. I just needed something to know the rough directions of towns and the types of terrains of various areas that would be travelled through in a text-based rp I played with my friends so I threw together a very rough concept in Microsoft Paint and.. I never took the time to fix it.
Another thing to do is think of what the map is for. If it fits your purpose, put something wierd on the map, then explain why it is wierd. For example, have a normal coastline that suddenly has a gash running up it, filled with cliffs. Said gash is there because it is where an earthquake ripped this area apart, and there is a mysterious city that fell into the new bay that opened up underneath it.
Hey, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. 😄 There's no "best" program. There's a lot of good options that cater to slightly different goals and levels of experience. I used Affinity Designer in this video for the map I made, but that's really more of a general art tool (like Photoshop or Illustrator). It's excellent if you're looking for a good art program, but not if you want to efficiently make maps or have little to no art background. If you're looking to make maps quickly, I think Aazgar's Map Generator, Inkarnate, and Wonderdraft are some incredible options. They're pretty easy to use, and inexpensive (Aazgar's is actually free). I wrote a whole post about those three on our blog talking about the pros and cons of each if you want more info: www.campfirewriting.com/learn/azgaars-vs-inkarnate-vs-wonderdraft My best advice would be to try a few options out and just go with whatever feels best for you / does what you need.
South America has a coastline thats too simple and unrealistic for my tastes. It's basically just a straight line from argentina to Brazil. Also see Africa, Arabia, India, Italy...
Surprised you didn't mention deltas, swamps or Lagoons. Not all coastlines need to be rough. The Nile river, Mississippi river, and Curonian spit are some notable examples forming unique geographical features
I’m so proud of me, I was like that kind of looks like that part of Virginia and Delaware. Then you said it based off it. Dude I’m like the smartest mf on earth
@@AroundTheCampfire I would also like to show off my maps and such, but I feel so inadequate. The lot of you are talented, and little ol' me is tiny in comparison. :
I think mappers tend to make coastlines too random and jagged (trying to avoid linear coastlines) this ends up looking ugly and unrealistic. Real world has many linear 'boring' coastlines and seemingly regular shapes. I think 2/3 linear 1/3 non linear is a good ratio to go for. Exceptions are karst coast zones and coast shaped by glaciers, and other minor oddities like aegean sea.
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We’re so close to 10,000 subscribers! To celebrate, once we hit that milestone, we’re going to give away a free lifetime subscription to our writing software Campfire (campfirewriting.com). That includes all the tools to help you plan, organize, and write your story-plus any we release in the future.
Keep an eye out for news on that-the contest will begin after we reach 10k subs. You can help make that happen sooner by subscribing to the channel if you haven’t already. 🥳
Only 10? 0:51 smh
I loved that final technique: mash up existing maps.
I have just stumbled across this video and it's literally the only reason my map looks anywhere near sensible
Oh wow... I NEED to learn how to make a map like the one at 1:00. That's my gold standard right there.
Thanks haha! That was made our lead designer, Adam :)
You can also look at cows like Holsteins and make maps based on their spot patterns.
Yep! Lots of ways to do this kind of thing. Coffee beans and rice are another popular one, spread out on a table and traced. I just wanted to offer a different option. And, I like this one because it forces you to look closely at Earth's geology, which is also helpful.
@@AroundTheCampfire I think you confused this comment for the one about tectonic faults. This comment is about cows. 🐄 😅
0:55 The last example shown was my favourite of those you made.
As you were drawing your example map I immediately recognized the shapes from Chesapeake/Potomac/Delaware! That’s one of my favorite coastlines!
I prefer drawing the fault lines of continental plates and building coastlines from how they would naturally form.
What software are you using for the majority of the video 2:14
I've been working on some (this far vague) notions of a fantasy map modeled a bit on western North America. It even has an analog of Baja California, but it's an island rather than a peninsula.
You’re actually wrong about Westeros being just great Britain flipped the opposite direction it’s actually Great Britain just facing it’s normal direction with an upside down Ireland stuck to the bottom. You can see that clearly by looking at regions like the Vale and Flint’s Finger.
I'll concede it's not a *perfect* comparison, but I was focused on the tip of Dorne being on the east whereas the South West Peninsula is, well, facing west.
@@AroundTheCampfire yeah Dorne is an addition made by George R.R. Martin himself that wasn’t originally part of Ireland.
I usually spend a lot of time looking at real life maps to get inspired and make my own
I use real-world maps all the time. Turn them 90 degrees and change the scale and you've got a great starting point. The west coast of the continent my players are on now is really the north coast of Siberia, turned 90 degrees and the scale changed to what I needed.
To be fair, the majority of fantasy settings don't have satellite imaging, so the maps drawn wouldn't be very realistic or accurate
I don't agree with this. Yes it's a straight line from Lindon to Gondor, but what else would it be? Little islands? And coasts aren't really that rocky, many are very soily and without much rock, like Florida, the Gulf, northern France, Ukraine, and much of Brazil. Some do have more complex shapes, such as Finland. And also (current me if I'm wrong on this, but you implied it) with Middle Earth fitting into a box, it may fit into a box, but much of that box would be sea. It still has complex shapes, such as the lands of the Lossoth, Lindon, Gondor's coast, and in the earlier days Númenor and Nevrost.
0:58 what is this style of map called? And how can I make one like it
You would cry if you saw the one (and I believe only) world map I've made. Although to be fair it was never intended to be used as an accurate proper map, it's not even to scale with itself. I just needed something to know the rough directions of towns and the types of terrains of various areas that would be travelled through in a text-based rp I played with my friends so I threw together a very rough concept in Microsoft Paint and.. I never took the time to fix it.
Another thing to do is think of what the map is for. If it fits your purpose, put something wierd on the map, then explain why it is wierd. For example, have a normal coastline that suddenly has a gash running up it, filled with cliffs. Said gash is there because it is where an earthquake ripped this area apart, and there is a mysterious city that fell into the new bay that opened up underneath it.
Hey, Campfire. This was an entertaining video, thanks so much for sharing! I've loved drawing maps. What programs are best for drawing them?
Hey, thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. 😄
There's no "best" program. There's a lot of good options that cater to slightly different goals and levels of experience. I used Affinity Designer in this video for the map I made, but that's really more of a general art tool (like Photoshop or Illustrator). It's excellent if you're looking for a good art program, but not if you want to efficiently make maps or have little to no art background.
If you're looking to make maps quickly, I think Aazgar's Map Generator, Inkarnate, and Wonderdraft are some incredible options. They're pretty easy to use, and inexpensive (Aazgar's is actually free). I wrote a whole post about those three on our blog talking about the pros and cons of each if you want more info: www.campfirewriting.com/learn/azgaars-vs-inkarnate-vs-wonderdraft
My best advice would be to try a few options out and just go with whatever feels best for you / does what you need.
I'm from Delaware so I suspected that coastline looked familiar.
2:38 Then this showed up on screen lol
I'm from Maryland and I can agree. It did look familiar before he showed the images.
South America has a coastline thats too simple and unrealistic for my tastes. It's basically just a straight line from argentina to Brazil. Also see Africa, Arabia, India, Italy...
Surprised you didn't mention deltas, swamps or Lagoons. Not all coastlines need to be rough.
The Nile river, Mississippi river, and Curonian spit are some notable examples forming unique geographical features
So what you're saying is, that making good coastlines on a map is like cutting a pizza while drunk 🤔 Interesting and amazing at the same time mate 😎👍
I’m so proud of me, I was like that kind of looks like that part of Virginia and Delaware. Then you said it based off it. Dude I’m like the smartest mf on earth
Hey
I'm making a map
and I've been following these principles.
Do you have a discord for map nerds?
Scotland gets no love? Have you seen those images, they're.... so intense. 😅
No idea why I can see the names of Valmieras, Cēsu and Siguldas but not any of the land theyre on.
I'd love if you would redesign the Old School RuneScape map.
Where can we find the pictures of your maps?
On the one hand, the critique is fair, on the other hand HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ILL OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR TOLKIEN!
I’d love to get your opinion on my secondary world’s map of Syla 🤔🤔
Post it on our Discord server and @ me!
@@AroundTheCampfire I would also like to show off my maps and such, but I feel so inadequate. The lot of you are talented, and little ol' me is tiny in comparison. :
Yay!
some parts blank? and what do I do when I have 9 continents :)
Big oceans and lakes?
I think mappers tend to make coastlines too random and jagged (trying to avoid linear coastlines) this ends up looking ugly and unrealistic. Real world has many linear 'boring' coastlines and seemingly regular shapes. I think 2/3 linear 1/3 non linear is a good ratio to go for. Exceptions are karst coast zones and coast shaped by glaciers, and other minor oddities like aegean sea.
why azgaar's fantasy map generator is overrated dogwater - the video