This presentation missed two important things: 1. The varieties of Russian artillery calibers are actually important. Russia has four different main artillery calibers. 100mm, 122mm, 152mm, 203mm. They all have different purposes. 100mm is meant for direct tactical local fire support, either from a defensive position or for shelling an enemy stronghold from a nearby height. 122mm is the main caliber used for supporting troop, movements, and suppressing enemy. It has a combination of long range, with great ammo capacity, and high rate of fire. This makes it the correct artillery for covering enemy forward positions for maneuver. 152mm is meant for hitting things further behind the enemy line, and also conducting continuous bombardment. It is not use so much tactically as The guns can have less ammunition due to the greater bulk and the range difference, and it was it to get past that front line into back areas as well as destroy structures and bunkers effectively. 203mm is a specialist seige and anti enemy artillery caliber. The cells have very long range and very large explosive loads so it can attack enemy artillery from outside of their response range, while still being safe away from the front line. This caliber is used for important, selective priority missions. Reason all this matters so much is because in the western armies, almost all all artillery is of the same caliber, 155mm and grants a very flat distribution of capabilities and also limits the ability of tailoring artillery to different tasks. Russian artillery is more flexible and has a much broader envelope of possible missions and environments it can work with. 2. It missed the 2S7 Pion, 203mm. This huge cannon exist for the purpose of destroying priority targets, deep behind enemy lines, as well as destroying enemy artillery supplies and anything else they try to keep protected. It is also extremely useful for counter battery fire as it can shoot from too far away to get hit back. Itslow rate of fire means it is only deployed very deliberately for top priority targets.
This is not the right opinion. The 100 mm caliber is not in service with howitzer regiments; these are anti-tank guns MT-12, BMP-3, T-55 tanks, etc. 122mm - regimental and divisional caliber (D-30, self-propelled howitzer 2S1 "Gvozdika"), 152mm - caliber of corps howitzers. This diversity is complemented by mortars of 82...240 mm caliber, the already mentioned MLRS in the Tornado-G and Tornado-S modernization, rocket-propelled hand-held and salvo flamethrowers (RPO Shmel, TOS-1M Solntsek) and grenade launchers (including automatic AGS-17) on the battlefield. 2S7 "Pion", 203mm was created for nuclear tactical weapons, does not shoot very accurately (for artillery systems) and was used only sporadically.
All these incredible ranges of weaponry, yet look at the front lines and both sides are only 5km away from each other, makes you realise why they prefer drones - a much better short range weapon, no???
Who said RUssia has bad artillery don't know any history... LOL They bounced back in WW2 with better tanks that demolished Panthers and Tigers... We used their rockets to go in to space for some time.
I was raised that commies = eat babies, so I can understand some people who think that the Russians are still fighting with shovels, they are wrong but I understand why they are wrong.
Napoleon, before his humiliating defeat at the hands of the russians, wrote about his huge surprise to find out the russians not only had more arty than him, but also much better... So yeah, arty is a long tradition for the russians, long before US was even invented...
Why hasn't anyone developed hybrid artillery, a combination between the low cost artillery and electronics, guided artillery with homing or lock in capabilities. Something like an Arduino integration with bombs and some kind of flap or to rockets it's just a marginal additional cost of $10 to an artillery shell that may cost hundreds. Anyone knows the cost of a shell or a rocket? That is the key to a war of attrition. Locking the coordinates to a rocket deploying a barrage and assuring they will hit within a 20m area would lower the cost significantly. Cruise missiles are too expensive there has to be an integration of technology with the past. Motors and ICs are dirt cheap now.
Most casualties in all big wars since 18 century came from artillery. Artillery means projecting of fire power an army. Of course, when USA made operation in Afghanistan nobody died from artillery in US army but many Afghan rebels died from american artillery
A lot of mercenaries come from the middle east or africa where their enemies didn’t have any artillery guns. Then they get to Ukraine and get destroyed. No so tough when their enemy actually has resources.
@@felixf4378 An Australian merc said the Americans were the first to leave. Its even documented war tourists like CivDiv dipped out as soon as it heated up
@off6848 ukraine is fighting at a disadvantage, and has been since the start. The way they've held on so far is respectable and admirable. But yeah that russian artillery with no counter to it from ukraine is devastating. There's a list of things I could go on about that ukraine would need to turn the tide. but til then do not expect to walk away from the frontline.
I used to turn on CNN sometimes before 2022 to laugh about their level of hate to everyone outside US. But nowadays British press has jumped over Nazi articles about subhumans from the East.
Video creator mentioned Swedish Russian war but omited to mention that Sweden had invaded 1708 Russsia and lost war. Then again Sweden invaded again 1741 and got defeat again. Only this time Sweden had Western partners like Napoleon had. Russian kept Finland territory that was a part of Sweden. That part was called later on 1922 when Soviet Union had given back Swedish territory that Russian kept as a buffer to prevent any new Swedish future ivadsions. However, British had protested for return land back to Sweden and then was created new country today known as a Finland. That part of shameful Swedish history isn't in any Western democracies schools history books. After creation of new country of Finland Russian had put conditions with threaty that Finland become neutral in perpetuity to Never wage war against Russia. That thst threaty Finland never respected Finland joined Nazis Germany invasion of Russia 1941 then was called USSR/United Socialist Soviet Republic. Now Finland had again jioned US/NATO and have US/NATO bases in Finland Rassian borders. Russian should have kept Swedish territory/Finland forever so as Polish and Lithuanian multiple invasion of Russia. That Russian had forgiven then as a good neighbors. Now those Beck stubbeers have US/NATO bases on Russian borders. That parts of Polish and Lithuanian shameful history isn't in their school history books. Russian should've kept thires lands after Polish and Lithuanian invasion defeats. Now as we see back stubbers countinuing back stubbing over and over again Russia. Because Russian forgiven many devils invasions. Little factual history that isn't in any Western fake democracies school history books.❤️🕊️🌍👌👍
Well, to be honest, it was Russia, Denmark-Norway, and Poland that jointly attacked Sweden and launched the Great Northern War year 1700. Russia made an assault in the east, Poland in the south, and Denmark-Norway in the west. Sweden defended itself successfully in the west and south. While Russia, contrary to your lies, advanced into Sweden, laying siege to Narva. The Swedish "invasion" of Russia was an active defense to try to enforce a peace. It failed in 1709 at Poltava. But it was not Sweden that started the war or invaded Russia first. Russia was the aggressor because Sweden had a very young king, and the alliance of the three aggressor nations thought that it would be a piece of cake. What ensued was a 21 year long war cause Sweden was not as weak as they hoped. The war in 1741 was 20 years after the Great Northern War and Sweden tried to retake the territory Russia conquered in that war. A little like Russia trying to attack Ukraine today and say that Crimea is theirs. If Russia is right today and have a casus belli, then Sweden were right then and had a casus belli.
Успехи в Северной войне Россия одержала самостоятельно, без помощи "союзников". У вас очень странные параллели по Швеции и Украине. При том, что нынешняя Украина это государство не существовавшее раньше и выделившееся из России. У вас слишком болезненное акцентирование внимания на том. что Швеция вторглась, Это не главная суть комментария, которую хотел дать автор ветки.
The author, in addition to other types of artillery and MLRS, forgot a very important feature - Russian weapons, unlike Western ones, are designed for a long war and a huge number of volleys.
@@tommygun5038 Western weapons are not designed to deal with extended or heavily defended communications. No matter what accuracy you have, if you are not able to make more than a few dozen shots a day without damaging the equipment, you will achieve nothing. For Russian weapons, hundreds of shots per day are the norm.
And annoyingly as the Westerner has been talking about this for about 12 years now I am seeing my country had made all the wrong weapons decisions yet again. I wrote a published paper about the overspecialization on insurgency warfare, and how it was going to get heart teeth kicked in the next time anything happened with a real enemy. All the real military intellectuals told me I was just a militia cosplayer who didn’t know anything. I also talked about the need for search capacity as well as economy of weapons production. And once again, all the military snobs told me I knew nothing and they were right. Well, guess who’s finally being proven right, it’s me.
@@tommygun5038 что цель России захват территории. Цель сейчас стоит в максимальном уничтожении войск противника при минимальных потерях, для этого достаточно выманивать противника в мясные контрнаступления на укрепленные позиции. Украина должна показывать медийный результат для своих инвесторов и вынуждена ложить своих солдат в максимально неудачных для них условиях. Даже наступательные действия России носят характер вынуждения Украины закрывать дыры в обороне резервами в больших количествах, которые перемалываются артилерией и авиабомбами. Зачем с тяжелыми боями захватывать территории и отгонять противника, когда можно с малыми потерями уничтожить противника и территории ты получишь автоматически. Да дольше, но крайне эффективно
they still have the best artillery and the best ainti-air defence system, while USA put money into bases around the world and aircrafts ships, russia play the defence game in a cheaper but more reliable way. Is all about the economic war and USA is in bankrupt so a potencial war wont last long
I have served in a 120M mortar company. Shoot and scoot. The main problem was the weather. The atmospheric conditions that could affect the trajectory of the shells, but we had all kinds of charts for that.
There is also Gvozdika, a 122mm SPH both sides use. Shorter range compared to Koalitsya, but smaller and much more mobile... Also, Pion 203mm is not mentioned (though in the vid) and heavy mortar Tyulpan 240mm. OK, TOS is designated as flamethrower...
The artillery is impressive but what is more impressive is the ability to target so precisely in real time. ISR linked to precision strike artillery is what will win this. Col Douglas McGregor talks about it being a game changer and the Russians are mastering it.
Needed to include, but not limited to: TOS 1, 1A, 2, and the replacement of the Smerch, the Tornado S, with it's 120-150km range and guided rockets so not an "area weapon." The rocket systems have thermobaric warheads, not explosives, so they are horrifying, making the US ATACMS look like 90lb weaklings.
Different usage. FAE systems kill soft targets but does less if the enemy is well fortified or sitting in a tank. The FAE uses pressure and heat and are devestating for light infanteri.
Artillery is modern era big arrows. It's psychological terror. Just imagine you are in the opposing position, getting bombarded 5-8 hours nonestop. What kind of damage does to soldiers mental well-being. I would never wish to be a Ukrainian soldier
those are only used in special circumstances, Real time fall of shot and targeting feedback from drones has made Artillery extremely effective in this conflict.
The problem is the cost. For example the Storm Shadow (UK), are nice but they are abusively expensive, so Ukraine is practically not using them against the front, i.e. they are mostly a cheap toy.
Секогаш артилеријата ја решава војната! Русија во почетокот на војната имаше големи загуби, бидеќи прифати блиска пешадиска борба - гради вгради без поголема артилериска подршка помош! Сега се сменија работите, за да не биде Руската пешадија доста многу изложена на големи загуби! Се додека Руската артилерија не го расчити добро теренот, Руската војска копнено не влегува, Руската војска копнено влегува само за мали до расчистување на теренот! За Победа! За Русија! За Слава на Русија! За нов светски поредок во кој нема да командува САД и неговите измејчари Западно Европејците! За подобара живот на планетава! Долу НАТО и слугите на сатаната! Долу САД! Поздрав до сите подржувачи на Русија во оваа војна од еден Македонец од Република Македонија!🥰👋👍 За Русија💪💪✌
None of nobody's business apart from Russia's security, even the NATO doesn't know, and they are suppose to, they will calculate the distance once it gets there, if they can have a chance
If it worked russia would use it to alleviate some of the embarrassment from their military and their equipment the world has watched for over 2 years .. Yeah we are looking like a 6th world company on the battlefield but that would change if we used secret weapons lolol
American weapons are only really effective when Americans are using it bc they are the only country with the type of money it takes to use these types of weapons efficiently and are the only ones with the logistics and personnel to keep them in working fashion! they are super expensive over over-engineered and over complicated and take a long time to make along time to learn and the fact of the matter is the majority of these western weapons haven't been tested against a real army. Russias weapons are fairly inexpensive fast to produce simple to learn simple to maintain reliable in any condition and cost effective and they have it in massive quantities! and that's not to say Russia doesn't have modern hightech weapons bc they do they hands down have one of if not the best most modern EW capabilities in the world not to mention their AD capabilities and when it comes to nucular capabilities its not even a match. Point being America arrogance and under estimating the enemy will be their down fall!
It's weird the Ukraine boys seem to stay static by the looks of things on TV. Our mantra was "shoot, move, communicate." I still put up camo net in my sleep sometimes, hated that shit.
Russia also has a different artillery doctrine than NATO... I believe the difference was described as "The West use artillery fire to maneuver while the Russians maneuver to fire... Essentially, the West use their artillery as a support weapon to cover their units both during an advance and when they defend... The Russians on the other hand use their units to make it easier for their artillery to hit their targets... The Russian doctrine paid dividends in the SMO in Ukraine where drones and satellites made the Western doctrine near impossible to do (as what happened to the Ukrainian Summer Offensive). The Russians simply modified their doctrine so that instead of large formations, they used platoons and squads instead...
what you saying is like a guerilla tactics in combat, the style of russian are effective, the formation of russian are few plattons yunits and a compose of team, im watching a indefendent news so thats why im wondering why russian forces is less in battlefield👍👍👍
@@thejacal2704 .....Since they used everything including gas.....a lot. But it didn't give either side an advantage. Also Russia quit and overthrew the Czar.
The mistakes made by the west is not realising russia has massively developed upgraded enhanced and massively improved every aspect of there millatary and we basically sent in our best equipment for them to basically capture study and learn exactly what we should never of allowed why because we underestimated zelenski who instead of listening and allowing his experienced genrals control the war zelenski thought he knew better when in fact this backfired so much those who spoke out simply got sacked. While this was going on russia was then using new artillery which used satalite data to pin point enemys on the ground and sadly we took our eyes away to isreal. In all likelyhood russia is now at least 5 years ahead of us
You said nothing about *guided* ammunitions, which *completely change the chances to hit at all ranges.* Mass unguided artillery has one purpose: make noise and destroy cities. But what artillery can actually destroy moving vehicles, and at what cost?
After this war ends, which I hope is soon enough. The Russian military is gonna have a hell of experience, for war battles in case they get into another conflict. Which I hope it doesn’t.
Kazakhstan in Russian backyard is too much playing with the West and liberal ideologies. It's now almost the same as Ukraine prior to 2014. So I guess, after Ukraine Russia would want to retract Stalin's decision of 1936 moving Kazakh Republic out of Russian Federation and giving it independence (as part of Soviet Union then). Especially, considering it's strategical status, 20 millions population with good birthrates, valuable resources and Russian properties like railroad and Spaceport Baikonur, which now often get hostile actions from Kazakh authorities
Artillery is wild 0_o It's hard to get perspective how much damage they do from drone video. The shells don't look THAT big to go so far 0_o What's the blast radius on the shells and rockets? For sure kill radius?
There's that noun again, "accuracy"?! I've never heard anyone talk about the accuracy of shotguns, because you know what shotguns are for! And whenever I hear talk about the accuracy of multi-barrel rocket launchers, I know that the person talking about it has absolutely no idea what he's talking about...
- As has been demonstrated in the conflict between Russia and NATO (Ukraine), there is really no contest in industrial capacity to produce cannon shells. - Russia has an almost unlimited shell production, due to their traditional WWII era industrial capacity and State-run Armament Factories. They are not in this for profit. - NATO relies on Private Sector businesses that will only produce enough shells to be profitable. Also, NATO member countries rely on Russia and other BRICS nations for raw materials to produce shells. Also, western Arms businesses just don't have any capacity. - The collective West (NATO) can no longer manufacture they way they did in WWII. All their manufacturing capacity, knowledge and skill has long been exported to China and other BRICS nations.
Thanks for letting us know why they elevate gun barrels. Here I thought it was just for looks. I assumed it could point at the ground and when fired would still just magically got to where they wanted regardless of direction. Who would've guessed they actually aim these things. The more you know.....derp.
You forgot some important points here, It doesn't get into history (before Barbarossa Sowjet military had the best artillery in the world which was mass produced, for example.) Today there are so many systems. Some very old but modernized with modern ammunitions and then there are many system that enter service now. And what about TOS-Systmes and all the other new stuff oushes into service. No one should ever underestimate Russia. Never. People tend to forget to fast.Russia doesn't even has begun to really use its potential. I am against any war but can also see the russian point of view. This isn't a war about people, It is a war about "power", ressources and money. And never forget: Russia has much Know How. Maybe a little more "low tech" than complicated and expensive western systems, but reliable, easy to mass produce and to maintain. And considering the overall situation they won't send nearly all of their troops to Ukraine. Never underastimate Russia and its people. And don't forget about their abilities to improvise and the "russian soul". Never forget about this.
There is in fact two actors missing: the TOS whose range is quite short compensating by its damage and the drones (kamikaze and others). During an attrition engagement where precision is paramount, artillery is indeed king and there the biggest guns with abundant munition will always win - provided logistic can reach the front. Nevertheless as we are recently seeing, Russia is now engaged in a war-like conflict, where the purpose is purely a total annihilation and destruction of the target, precision and surgical strike become irrelevant: there artillery although important become the Prince, while the crown is passed on to the aviation with guided bombs (up now to 3,000) and missiles used to destroy all air defense system. Artillery remains and will remain, nevertheless depending on the operational mode it may become prince.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I have an impression from interviews with Russian soldiers, that while western artillery may have shorter range or lower rate of fire, it also is much precisar than Russian artillery. So for example, where Russian howitzer needs ~5 shots to hit the target, western artillery needs 1-2 shots. And that’s important. Is that true?
The range is wild... the city i live in is located at the coast... its only two roads leading here and two bridges... so any attackers could take those out + could just stand at the nearest crossroad and attack us from afar... *its 60 km to there.. takes around 45 min to drive and i guess its only around 40 km in "air range* .. hell... with a 80km artillary an enemy could easily shell my city from the neighbour country lol
Do you realize the Russians don't need to leave Russia to ¨shell¨ wherever you are on the planet? Not only that, they can do it hypersonically and you'd never know you'd been hit. Moral of the story: Do NOT poke the Russian bear!
Range has just about quadrupled since WW2. 80km for Koalitsya S heavy thats further than even Missouri class battleship from ww2 which was around 50km. Later Iowa class battleships used similarly rocket propelled shells to reach 60-70km
A critical point for the artillery of the 21st century to work is precision guided munition in this case the russian forces are using Krasnopol accurate laser guided munition that has 95% accuracy on static and 70% on the moving targets.....another critical point in th3 artillery of the russian forces is the IRS intelligence surveillance reconnaissance capability for gathering information about the targets and fire correction provided by Drones ......the transmission of this information is made by critical military data link called the OSNOD A.I assistance this will lower the kill chain time ans be able to respond against live maneuvering by the ukrainian reich forces , this is important in the artillery warfare check it and I will await your video about this
A State owned purpose driven Russian MIC (Military Industrial Complex), its wartime productive surge capacity and thereby battle readiness is always going to have a distinct advantage over their relatively cumbersome privately owned profit driven MICs such as most if not all NATO states. As for the state of Ukraine having to go cap in hand for an assortment of second hand military junk; they have little or no chance of avoiding defeat on any battlefield.
This presentation missed two important things:
1. The varieties of Russian artillery calibers are actually important. Russia has four different main artillery calibers. 100mm, 122mm, 152mm, 203mm. They all have different purposes. 100mm is meant for direct tactical local fire support, either from a defensive position or for shelling an enemy stronghold from a nearby height. 122mm is the main caliber used for supporting troop, movements, and suppressing enemy. It has a combination of long range, with great ammo capacity, and high rate of fire. This makes it the correct artillery for covering enemy forward positions for maneuver. 152mm is meant for hitting things further behind the enemy line, and also conducting continuous bombardment. It is not use so much tactically as The guns can have less ammunition due to the greater bulk and the range difference, and it was it to get past that front line into back areas as well as destroy structures and bunkers effectively. 203mm is a specialist seige and anti enemy artillery caliber. The cells have very long range and very large explosive loads so it can attack enemy artillery from outside of their response range, while still being safe away from the front line. This caliber is used for important, selective priority missions. Reason all this matters so much is because in the western armies, almost all all artillery is of the same caliber, 155mm and grants a very flat distribution of capabilities and also limits the ability of tailoring artillery to different tasks. Russian artillery is more flexible and has a much broader envelope of possible missions and environments it can work with.
2. It missed the 2S7 Pion, 203mm. This huge cannon exist for the purpose of destroying priority targets, deep behind enemy lines, as well as destroying enemy artillery supplies and anything else they try to keep protected. It is also extremely useful for counter battery fire as it can shoot from too far away to get hit back. Itslow rate of fire means it is only deployed very deliberately for top priority targets.
Thanks for sharing👍
Mort, sounds like someone knows their stuff. Nuff Said
This is not the right opinion. The 100 mm caliber is not in service with howitzer regiments; these are anti-tank guns MT-12, BMP-3, T-55 tanks, etc. 122mm - regimental and divisional caliber (D-30, self-propelled howitzer 2S1 "Gvozdika"), 152mm - caliber of corps howitzers. This diversity is complemented by mortars of 82...240 mm caliber, the already mentioned MLRS in the Tornado-G and Tornado-S modernization, rocket-propelled hand-held and salvo flamethrowers (RPO Shmel, TOS-1M Solntsek) and grenade launchers (including automatic AGS-17) on the battlefield. 2S7 "Pion", 203mm was created for nuclear tactical weapons, does not shoot very accurately (for artillery systems) and was used only sporadically.
All these incredible ranges of weaponry, yet look at the front lines and both sides are only 5km away from each other, makes you realise why they prefer drones - a much better short range weapon, no???
what is also missing is that shell production is 4:1 Russia/N Korea vs. NATO while shells actually fired daily for 2 years are 6:1
Who said RUssia has bad artillery don't know any history... LOL They bounced back in WW2 with better tanks that demolished Panthers and Tigers... We used their rockets to go in to space for some time.
I was raised that commies = eat babies, so I can understand some people who think that the Russians are still fighting with shovels, they are wrong but I understand why they are wrong.
Most of the Weapons Technology was stolen from Germany after WWII !!!
Napoleon, before his humiliating defeat at the hands of the russians, wrote about his huge surprise to find out the russians not only had more arty than him, but also much better... So yeah, arty is a long tradition for the russians, long before US was even invented...
@@mirandela777 napolean loved arty also
Yeah everyone shits on Russia ,I think they are projecting ,myself I have nothing but respect for them
WW2 in Eastern Front featured mass artillery, including rocket one. 70% of German casualties on Eastern Front were to arty.
therefore, NATO always planned on just 4 weeks of stalling or blitzkrieg before the nukes come out...
Berlin was leveled with so many MLRS systems firing at the same time
Berlin was leveled with so many MLRS systems firing at the same time
Berlin was leveled with so many MLRS systems firing at the same time
@@stolekostov5111 no, it wasn't
Soldiers win fights, Tanks win battles, Artillery wins WARS
Drones annihilate Artillery. It's a new kind of war.
@@loboxx337 Jammers bring down drones !
Even NATO realizes this, and is now drastically vamping up there 155mm ammo production
@@leachimy24 He obviously meant infantry. Stop trying to be a smartass at every opportunity.
Why hasn't anyone developed hybrid artillery, a combination between the low cost artillery and electronics, guided artillery with homing or lock in capabilities. Something like an Arduino integration with bombs and some kind of flap or to rockets it's just a marginal additional cost of $10 to an artillery shell that may cost hundreds.
Anyone knows the cost of a shell or a rocket? That is the key to a war of attrition. Locking the coordinates to a rocket deploying a barrage and assuring they will hit within a 20m area would lower the cost significantly. Cruise missiles are too expensive there has to be an integration of technology with the past. Motors and ICs are dirt cheap now.
80% of the casualities in the russo-ukrainian war are caused by artillery. Mercanaries have quit in tropes because of that.
Most casualties in all big wars since 18 century came from artillery. Artillery means projecting of fire power an army. Of course, when USA made operation in Afghanistan nobody died from artillery in US army but many Afghan rebels died from american artillery
A lot of mercenaries come from the middle east or africa where their enemies didn’t have any artillery guns. Then they get to Ukraine and get destroyed.
No so tough when their enemy actually has resources.
@@felixf4378 An Australian merc said the Americans were the first to leave. Its even documented war tourists like CivDiv dipped out as soon as it heated up
@off6848
ukraine is fighting at a disadvantage, and has been since the start.
The way they've held on so far is respectable and admirable.
But yeah that russian artillery with no counter to it from ukraine is devastating.
There's a list of things I could go on about that ukraine would need to turn the tide.
but til then do not expect to walk away from the frontline.
How is this even possible? We were told by BBC "Ukraine war: Russian reservists fighting with shovels - UK defence ministry" multiple times.
War factories are running day and night. With almost 2 years of massive investments production levels only increasing
I used to turn on CNN sometimes before 2022 to laugh about their level of hate to everyone outside US. But nowadays British press has jumped over Nazi articles about subhumans from the East.
They're getting innovative now they can turn shovel into an artillery 😮
Never believed it in the first place, I was called all sorts of names just for stating facts..
Russia can't be defeated in the own back yard..
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Shovels 😂
People who underestimate artillery is underestimating history itself.
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Video creator mentioned Swedish Russian war but omited to mention that Sweden had invaded 1708 Russsia and lost war. Then again Sweden invaded again 1741 and got defeat again. Only this time Sweden had Western partners like Napoleon had. Russian kept Finland territory that was a part of Sweden. That part was called later on 1922 when Soviet Union had given back Swedish territory that Russian kept as a buffer to prevent any new Swedish future ivadsions. However, British had protested for return land back to Sweden and then was created new country today known as a Finland. That part of shameful Swedish history isn't in any Western democracies schools history books. After creation of new country of Finland Russian had put conditions with threaty that Finland become neutral in perpetuity to Never wage war against Russia. That thst threaty Finland never respected Finland joined Nazis Germany invasion of Russia 1941 then was called USSR/United Socialist Soviet Republic. Now Finland had again jioned US/NATO and have US/NATO bases in Finland Rassian borders. Russian should have kept Swedish territory/Finland forever so as Polish and Lithuanian multiple invasion of Russia. That Russian had forgiven then as a good neighbors. Now those Beck stubbeers have US/NATO bases on Russian borders. That parts of Polish and Lithuanian shameful history isn't in their school history books. Russian should've kept thires lands after Polish and Lithuanian invasion defeats. Now as we see back stubbers countinuing back stubbing over and over again Russia. Because Russian forgiven many devils invasions. Little factual history that isn't in any Western fake democracies school history books.❤️🕊️🌍👌👍
Well, to be honest, it was Russia, Denmark-Norway, and Poland that jointly attacked Sweden and launched the Great Northern War year 1700. Russia made an assault in the east, Poland in the south, and Denmark-Norway in the west. Sweden defended itself successfully in the west and south. While Russia, contrary to your lies, advanced into Sweden, laying siege to Narva.
The Swedish "invasion" of Russia was an active defense to try to enforce a peace. It failed in 1709 at Poltava. But it was not Sweden that started the war or invaded Russia first. Russia was the aggressor because Sweden had a very young king, and the alliance of the three aggressor nations thought that it would be a piece of cake. What ensued was a 21 year long war cause Sweden was not as weak as they hoped.
The war in 1741 was 20 years after the Great Northern War and Sweden tried to retake the territory Russia conquered in that war.
A little like Russia trying to attack Ukraine today and say that Crimea is theirs.
If Russia is right today and have a casus belli, then Sweden were right then and had a casus belli.
Brainwashed nonsense.
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@Eizenhertz moscovites/russians were profoundly changed by the mongolian occupation, so they can't be accountable to european standards
Успехи в Северной войне Россия одержала самостоятельно, без помощи "союзников". У вас очень странные параллели по Швеции и Украине. При том, что нынешняя Украина это государство не существовавшее раньше и выделившееся из России. У вас слишком болезненное акцентирование внимания на том. что Швеция вторглась, Это не главная суть комментария, которую хотел дать автор ветки.
The author, in addition to other types of artillery and MLRS, forgot a very important feature - Russian weapons, unlike Western ones, are designed for a long war and a huge number of volleys.
Not really. It's just that both sides accuracy goes away.
@@tommygun5038 Ukrainian troops complaining about that constantly, dude.
@@kirillsegkov1544 .....They're complaining about lack of ammunition. Accuracy is more important.
@@tommygun5038 Western weapons are not designed to deal with extended or heavily defended communications. No matter what accuracy you have, if you are not able to make more than a few dozen shots a day without damaging the equipment, you will achieve nothing. For Russian weapons, hundreds of shots per day are the norm.
@@KonstantinVinnichenko .....Neither are Russian (soviet) weapons. Endless shelling from Russia hasn't done much in 2yrs.
Russia has a really good ratio betwean range price and wear of their weapons....
like Russian heneral once said....our weapons are made for real war
Хорошее понимание нашей стратегии военного развития,так и выигрывают войны😉
And annoyingly as the Westerner has been talking about this for about 12 years now I am seeing my country had made all the wrong weapons decisions yet again. I wrote a published paper about the overspecialization on insurgency warfare, and how it was going to get heart teeth kicked in the next time anything happened with a real enemy. All the real military intellectuals told me I was just a militia cosplayer who didn’t know anything. I also talked about the need for search capacity as well as economy of weapons production. And once again, all the military snobs told me I knew nothing and they were right. Well, guess who’s finally being proven right, it’s me.
@@Mortablunt.....Explain then, how Ukraine has stalemated Russian advances for 2yrs now.
@@tommygun5038 что цель России захват территории. Цель сейчас стоит в максимальном уничтожении войск противника при минимальных потерях, для этого достаточно выманивать противника в мясные контрнаступления на укрепленные позиции. Украина должна показывать медийный результат для своих инвесторов и вынуждена ложить своих солдат в максимально неудачных для них условиях. Даже наступательные действия России носят характер вынуждения Украины закрывать дыры в обороне резервами в больших количествах, которые перемалываются артилерией и авиабомбами. Зачем с тяжелыми боями захватывать территории и отгонять противника, когда можно с малыми потерями уничтожить противника и территории ты получишь автоматически. Да дольше, но крайне эффективно
@@xzXenOzx ...I don't speak that drivel. So you've said nothing to me.
they still have the best artillery and the best ainti-air defence system, while USA put money into bases around the world and aircrafts ships, russia play the defence game in a cheaper but more reliable way. Is all about the economic war and USA is in bankrupt so a potencial war wont last long
Very true!! The uniparty is printing counterfeit money 24 hrs a day 7 days a week trying to fool the world !!! Since Brics knows what's up !
Nothing was said about Tornado-S. 120 km. Guided.
HIMARS Hunter
Just for views, not expertise.
Yeah, tornado-s shoot destroyed the himmars
Krasnopol self guided?
200 km with 300 mm 9M544 rocket
The way they're using drones to make them into precision weapons is horrifyingly incredible
I have served in a 120M mortar company. Shoot and scoot. The main problem was the weather. The atmospheric conditions that could affect the trajectory of the shells, but we had all kinds of charts for that.
Slava Rossiya 💪🇷🇺👍
There is also Gvozdika, a 122mm SPH both sides use. Shorter range compared to Koalitsya, but smaller and much more mobile...
Also, Pion 203mm is not mentioned (though in the vid) and heavy mortar Tyulpan 240mm. OK, TOS is designated as flamethrower...
I experienced the artillery firsthand, It destroy you " mentally " before It destroy you physically!.
Those shovels.....😁
203mm shovels. Quite normal size for a sapper shovel.
Did I miss something or are you referring to the spades when the gun gets laid?
Additional factors to be taken into account : shell weight and ballistic coefficient, altitude (air density), temperature, hygrometry and wind.
the d30 is a great gun...the NVA used them in khe san against our marines...they respected that gun
Malka is a real Beast 🎉
240mm automatic mortar is something else
The artillery is impressive but what is more impressive is the ability to target so precisely in real time. ISR linked to precision strike artillery is what will win this. Col Douglas McGregor talks about it being a game changer and the Russians are mastering it.
This is where Russia excells at. They love their artillery
The red army using artillery barrage@Artillery power since WW2...
its the one artillery power , they know how important they are
Needed to include, but not limited to: TOS 1, 1A, 2, and the replacement of the Smerch, the Tornado S, with it's 120-150km range and guided rockets so not an "area weapon." The rocket systems have thermobaric warheads, not explosives, so they are horrifying, making the US ATACMS look like 90lb weaklings.
Different usage. FAE systems kill soft targets but does less if the enemy is well fortified or sitting in a tank. The FAE uses pressure and heat and are devestating for light infanteri.
Artillery is modern era big arrows. It's psychological terror. Just imagine you are in the opposing position, getting bombarded 5-8 hours nonestop. What kind of damage does to soldiers mental well-being. I would never wish to be a Ukrainian soldier
GPS guided and rocket assist artillery ammo increases range and accuracy.
those are only used in special circumstances, Real time fall of shot and targeting feedback from drones has made Artillery extremely effective in this conflict.
The problem is the cost.
For example the Storm Shadow (UK), are nice but they are abusively expensive, so Ukraine is practically not using them against the front, i.e. they are mostly a cheap toy.
@@eng3dUkraine using Storm Shadow but got jammed or shot down by Russia
В минометных снарядах GPS не нужен.Ты не очень продвинутый эксперт.
Секогаш артилеријата ја решава војната! Русија во почетокот на војната имаше големи загуби, бидеќи прифати блиска пешадиска борба - гради вгради без поголема артилериска подршка помош! Сега се сменија работите, за да не биде Руската пешадија доста многу изложена на големи загуби! Се додека Руската артилерија не го расчити добро теренот, Руската војска копнено не влегува, Руската војска копнено влегува само за мали до расчистување на теренот! За Победа! За Русија! За Слава на Русија! За нов светски поредок во кој нема да командува САД и неговите измејчари Западно Европејците! За подобара живот на планетава! Долу НАТО и слугите на сатаната! Долу САД! Поздрав до сите подржувачи на Русија во оваа војна од еден Македонец од Република Македонија!🥰👋👍 За Русија💪💪✌
How far a projectile will reach depends on the weight and load of the round being fired.
Shape
Yeah, I mean I would hope everyone makes a shell, like a bullet, and not like a cannon ball? Lmaoo. @@billtev9846
And also angle of barrel of gun is important.
45 degrees always gives maximum range when munition propulsion is confined to the barrel.
wind and temperature play a big part also
You forgot one of the best the( Rapier , Panipa MT12)
100mm .
None of nobody's business apart from Russia's security, even the NATO doesn't know, and they are suppose to, they will calculate the distance once it gets there, if they can have a chance
If it worked russia would use it to alleviate some of the embarrassment from their military and their equipment the world has watched for over 2 years .. Yeah we are looking like a 6th world company on the battlefield but that would change if we used secret weapons lolol
American weapons are only really effective when Americans are using it bc they are the only country with the type of money it takes to use these types of weapons efficiently and are the only ones with the logistics and personnel to keep them in working fashion! they are super expensive over over-engineered and over complicated and take a long time to make along time to learn and the fact of the matter is the majority of these western weapons haven't been tested against a real army. Russias weapons are fairly inexpensive fast to produce simple to learn simple to maintain reliable in any condition and cost effective and they have it in massive quantities! and that's not to say Russia doesn't have modern hightech weapons bc they do they hands down have one of if not the best most modern EW capabilities in the world not to mention their AD capabilities and when it comes to nucular capabilities its not even a match. Point being America arrogance and under estimating the enemy will be their down fall!
Mostly - to TRAIN correctly. Last part about Russian weapons is old meme, no longer accurate.
@@piotrd.4850 in what way elbarote if you don't mind.
Russia has better artillery than USA king of battle is artillary
Russian Artillery is led by God
by putin!
By the 😈 devil! Russias love of occupation, conquest and killing is sick.🤢
@@NydusDRGsame
Right
Россия управляется непосредственно Богом-точная цитата.
Russia has the best military equipment
Excellent video.
It's weird the Ukraine boys seem to stay static by the looks of things on TV. Our mantra was "shoot, move, communicate." I still put up camo net in my sleep sometimes, hated that shit.
Huraa 🇷🇺💪
Those dishwasher parts are scary
The 80km range of the mobile howitzer is crazy!!! How do you prepare for something like that?
No Tornado-S?
A artilharia mais poderosa do mundo!!!🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🇷🇺🦾🦾🦾🦾🦾
Smerch: 90 km.
´crazy
Russia also has a different artillery doctrine than NATO... I believe the difference was described as "The West use artillery fire to maneuver while the Russians maneuver to fire...
Essentially, the West use their artillery as a support weapon to cover their units both during an advance and when they defend... The Russians on the other hand use their units to make it easier for their artillery to hit their targets...
The Russian doctrine paid dividends in the SMO in Ukraine where drones and satellites made the Western doctrine near impossible to do (as what happened to the Ukrainian Summer Offensive). The Russians simply modified their doctrine so that instead of large formations, they used platoons and squads instead...
what you saying is like a guerilla tactics in combat, the style of russian are effective, the formation of russian are few plattons yunits and a compose of team, im watching a indefendent news so thats why im wondering why russian forces is less in battlefield👍👍👍
Remember the drones and the FABs!
And the shovels
Mortars completely overlooked again.
Carrying Baseplate sucks
@@destroyerarmor Laughs in nona s
You can add that in ww1 1.5 billion artillery shells were fired and the lines hardly moved.
How many did the artillery kill?
@@thejacal2704 .....Since they used everything including gas.....a lot. But it didn't give either side an advantage. Also Russia quit and overthrew the Czar.
Yeah, but in Verdun, about 500,000 killed on each side. They just kept bringing men in the slaughter.
The mistakes made by the west is not realising russia has massively developed upgraded enhanced and massively improved every aspect of there millatary and we basically sent in our best equipment for them to basically capture study and learn exactly what we should never of allowed why because we underestimated zelenski who instead of listening and allowing his experienced genrals control the war zelenski thought he knew better when in fact this backfired so much those who spoke out simply got sacked. While this was going on russia was then using new artillery which used satalite data to pin point enemys on the ground and sadly we took our eyes away to isreal. In all likelyhood russia is now at least 5 years ahead of us
You said nothing about *guided* ammunitions, which *completely change the chances to hit at all ranges.*
Mass unguided artillery has one purpose: make noise and destroy cities. But what artillery can actually destroy moving vehicles, and at what cost?
Для движущей цели у нас есть ланцеты
Краснополь называються управляемые снаряды
Unguided artillery is highly accurate. The explosive charges and shell saturation account for the margins of error.
Russia has Krasnopol guided shell widely used in Ukraine
After this war ends, which I hope is soon enough. The Russian military is gonna have a hell of experience, for war battles in case they get into another conflict. Which I hope it doesn’t.
Kazakhstan in Russian backyard is too much playing with the West and liberal ideologies. It's now almost the same as Ukraine prior to 2014.
So I guess, after Ukraine Russia would want to retract Stalin's decision of 1936 moving Kazakh Republic out of Russian Federation and giving it independence (as part of Soviet Union then).
Especially, considering it's strategical status, 20 millions population with good birthrates, valuable resources and Russian properties like railroad and Spaceport Baikonur, which now often get hostile actions from Kazakh authorities
Considering how they allowed experiences form Chechenya and even Syria go to drain.... I'm not concerned.
Q: How far can they reach ?
A: Yes.
Man I love this channel. Such a fresh sight to see in sea of trash we are surrounded on the Internet.
Artillery shells are the only weapon that can never be intercepted by any army!!!
You never mentioned incremental charge systems or High angle close fire
Artillery is wild 0_o It's hard to get perspective how much damage they do from drone video.
The shells don't look THAT big to go so far 0_o What's the blast radius on the shells and rockets? For sure kill radius?
They're rocket guided for the 80km shells. Kill circle is 20 meters diameter but concussive and debilitating injury is around 50 meters
العالم الغربي اللذي يخرب البلدان بالغزو وقتل شعوبها بإسم الحرية ويشرد العاىلات
Bravisimos!! Saludos desde Cuba!
Stalin said artillery is the god of war.
koalitsiya SV is Russia's most advanced weapon system.
@PabloM11111 just like f22 and f35 but Americans and their slaves are saying f22 and f35 are the best aircraft in the world .
From shovels to high end weaponry in just 2 year.
Thank you
There's that noun again, "accuracy"?!
I've never heard anyone talk about the accuracy of shotguns, because you know what shotguns are for! And whenever I hear talk about the accuracy of multi-barrel rocket launchers, I know that the person talking about it has absolutely no idea what he's talking about...
- As has been demonstrated in the conflict between Russia and NATO (Ukraine), there is really no contest in industrial capacity to produce cannon shells.
- Russia has an almost unlimited shell production, due to their traditional WWII era industrial capacity and State-run Armament Factories. They are not in this for profit.
- NATO relies on Private Sector businesses that will only produce enough shells to be profitable. Also, NATO member countries rely on Russia and other BRICS nations for raw materials to produce shells. Also, western Arms businesses just don't have any capacity.
- The collective West (NATO) can no longer manufacture they way they did in WWII. All their manufacturing capacity, knowledge and skill has long been exported to China and other BRICS nations.
Thanks for letting us know why they elevate gun barrels. Here I thought it was just for looks. I assumed it could point at the ground and when fired would still just magically got to where they wanted regardless of direction. Who would've guessed they actually aim these things. The more you know.....derp.
You forgot some important points here,
It doesn't get into history (before Barbarossa Sowjet military had the best artillery in the world which was mass produced, for example.)
Today there are so many systems. Some very old but modernized with modern ammunitions and then there are many system that enter service now. And what about TOS-Systmes and all the other new stuff oushes into service. No one should ever underestimate Russia. Never.
People tend to forget to fast.Russia doesn't even has begun to really use its potential.
I am against any war but can also see the russian point of view. This isn't a war about people, It is a war about "power", ressources and money.
And never forget: Russia has much Know How. Maybe a little more "low tech" than complicated and expensive western systems, but reliable, easy to mass produce and to maintain. And considering the overall situation they won't send nearly all of their troops to Ukraine. Never underastimate Russia and its people. And don't forget about their abilities to improvise and the "russian soul". Never forget about this.
So West was built for short high intensity combat while Russia is built for long term Attrition.
There is in fact two actors missing: the TOS whose range is quite short compensating by its damage and the drones (kamikaze and others).
During an attrition engagement where precision is paramount, artillery is indeed king and there the biggest guns with abundant munition will always win - provided logistic can reach the front.
Nevertheless as we are recently seeing, Russia is now engaged in a war-like conflict, where the purpose is purely a total annihilation and destruction of the target, precision and surgical strike become irrelevant: there artillery although important become the Prince, while the crown is passed on to the aviation with guided bombs (up now to 3,000) and missiles used to destroy all air defense system.
Artillery remains and will remain, nevertheless depending on the operational mode it may become prince.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I have an impression from interviews with Russian soldiers, that while western artillery may have shorter range or lower rate of fire, it also is much precisar than Russian artillery. So for example, where Russian howitzer needs ~5 shots to hit the target, western artillery needs 1-2 shots. And that’s important. Is that true?
Correction: The artillery is the King of the Battlefield. Vladimir Putin is the God of War.
Does artillery can fire cluster ammunition???
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it dose
Может
Шрапнель,этого достаточно
@@ВладиславЕгоров-ы3п кассетные заряды - это совсем про другое. Шрапнелью далеко не выстрелишь.
So many kinds of ammo artillery and rockets make logistics really really bad.
Discuss wheeled vs. tracked... in detail, of course.
The range is wild... the city i live in is located at the coast... its only two roads leading here and two bridges... so any attackers could take those out + could just stand at the nearest crossroad and attack us from afar... *its 60 km to there.. takes around 45 min to drive and i guess its only around 40 km in "air range*
.. hell... with a 80km artillary an enemy could easily shell my city from the neighbour country lol
Do you realize the Russians don't need to leave Russia to ¨shell¨ wherever you are on the planet?
Not only that, they can do it hypersonically and you'd never know you'd been hit.
Moral of the story: Do NOT poke the Russian bear!
The downside of these artillery pieces are that they are very vulnerable for air attacks and especially drone attacks.
You have skipped the 2 best longest range rusdian artillery systems
Look at Frederic William Lancaster and you will know how impotant Aritllery is!
Their latest Mista system about a mile further than M777. Standard ammo.
respect russian army 🪖🐻🇷🇺
The many holes in the frontline landscape show most grenades are inaccurate.
How so?
grenades?
You might be confusing artillery with grad rocket strikes.
s550? and other super weapon?
That's air(and near space) defence, not an artillery
The range of these weapons has not really improved from WW2 and they are more vulnerable from the air that being the larger drones.
This applies to everyone
@@destroyerarmor Yes very true
Range has just about quadrupled since WW2. 80km for Koalitsya S heavy thats further than even Missouri class battleship from ww2 which was around 50km. Later Iowa class battleships used similarly rocket propelled shells to reach 60-70km
Viva la Russia 🇷🇺✌️
Depends on the height of the artillery position..
A critical point for the artillery of the 21st century to work is precision guided munition in this case the russian forces are using Krasnopol accurate laser guided munition that has 95% accuracy on static and 70% on the moving targets.....another critical point in th3 artillery of the russian forces is the IRS intelligence surveillance reconnaissance capability for gathering information about the targets and fire correction provided by Drones ......the transmission of this information is made by critical military data link called the OSNOD A.I assistance this will lower the kill chain time ans be able to respond against live maneuvering by the ukrainian reich forces , this is important in the artillery warfare check it and I will await your video about this
yes artillery have always been key, but nowadays a swarm of drones can rid a massive area of artillery within half an hour
Faced with an opponent who does not have an anti-aircraft capability
Sniper can't replace machine gun team, if you understand the metaphor
Artillery is rule the battle field
You forgot to mention the tornado-s
I wouldn't join military or even think abouts seeying such Hod of wars 😢
Merci beaucoup 😊
That would be a question ansid in battle!!! Roa Aotearoa nui.
Artillery lowers morale on the receiving end.
FAB-1500, 3000 put morale (of those who survived or was 1-3 km away) down to 0
@@mrobocop1666 yes, Fab wil do that as well. 👍 Btw, they go up to FAB-9000(kg)😉
Россия не использует Град а использует только Торнадо С/Г с дальностью до 130 км (при этом машины замаскированы под предшественников!
Target acquisition is the key. Without accurate target acquisition, you are shooting at "a grid square in the open".🤣
hence drones and satellite
they use now a drone the see and to calculate the targets,+ (gprs) global positioning and reconissance system.
питер, кто я питер?
A State owned purpose driven Russian MIC (Military Industrial Complex), its wartime productive surge capacity and thereby battle readiness is always going to have a distinct advantage over their relatively cumbersome privately owned profit driven MICs such as most if not all NATO states. As for the state of Ukraine having to go cap in hand for an assortment of second hand military junk; they have little or no chance of avoiding defeat on any battlefield.
How far??? what about West point,NY. and Fort Hood, Texas US.
Glide MLRS, perhaps?
Why do these western videos never show Koalitsya heavy S range? 80km double the best western artillery
Artillery caliber???
Fun fact, both side use allmost same artyllery :D
Ive heard 20km, 50km but maybe now a definitive answer