Control | Who is Dr. Tokui?
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2022
- Hello everyone. The main character of Control and her brother was part of the Bureau's Prime Candidate Program. However, there were other names brought up in relation to this program that we never see. However, one of the main potential candidates for this program was named as Dr. Yoshimi Tokui.
In the PS4 version of the game an exclusive side quest was present which dived into this character in further detail. Let's take a look at this side quest, his guided meditations, and what they are meant to impart upon Jesse.
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I completely forgot to mention the most important thing... the Japanese voice actor for Dr. Tokui is Hideo Kojima. That is all. I'll give you back your video now.
It did sound familiar, damn. Knowing Kojima`s work, this game does sound like it`s right up his alley, though, so not that surprising.
Can I have that link
Seeing how this mission is going, I guess it was fitting to put Hideo there.
who is the english speaking actor ? he sounds familiar too
What. The. Fluck.
He is voiced by Hideo Kojima, he is a good friend of Sam Lake which is why Sam lake also appears as a cameo in Death stranding as one of the customers called the veteran porter or something.
I was going to comment on that but couldn't find a good point to include it. Love that little detail though.
The Prime Candidate Project is very interesting. Each one of the candidates can be a main character in a spin-off game to showcase why and how the bureau think they're eligible for the program. Would be really cool. I doubt Hideo Kojima would have the time to do more than a cameo though, lol, but he can just lend his likeness in the future and have a different voice actor (like how it was done in Death Stranding) if Remedy want Dr. Tokui to have more presence in the future.
That would be really cool! Yeah this but was probably an hour ro two in a recording booth for Kojima. Not a lot of time for the cameo. We don't get a lot on the prime candidate program but it is a thread for the sequel I'm curious about.
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This is NOT a drill! Everyone out of bed.
These videos about Control, Alan Wake, Bright Falls, Max, and everything Remedy related... are PRICELESS. Gold!
Thank you so much! I adore Remedy. Waiting for updates in the new games.
The mention of previous Prime Candidates made me think, it would be interesting if the bureau had the Director Appoint her own Para-utilitarian bodyguard (Kinda Like the Director Being Ahti's Assistant) to help her fight against the Unknown inside the Oldest House in Control 2.
You know, the concept that the Director is also the “Janitor’s Assistant” is…fascinating. Really makes you wonder just where people like Ahti, or the Andersons, really sit on the scale of “baseline humans Hiss/Dark Presence”.
Considering the Hiss, which terrified even the Board, never seemed to bother Ahti at all, and the Andersons possibly tango’d with the Dark Presence on more than one occasion…seems to me like “Ahti’s Assistant” is a far greater title than merely being “The Director.”
Oh the Anderson'a 100% tangoed with the Dark Presence before. On the night the Losge was attacked they got all the patients to safety while fighting off the Taken. Excited to fight then again. And Ahti, well he is on a while other level. Who knows what secrets he's hiding
@@GamingUniversityUoG Totally forgot about that, and how Wake's page about that implied they knew how to handle Taken! I was thinking of the FBC mentions about previous AWE's in Bright Falls, and how Tor and Odin talk to Alan about how [Jagger] took the storms and ravens from them.
But yeah, I definitely rank Ahti above even the Board. Ahti does wait until he's safely on vacation before giving Jessie the music player, so it's possible that Hadron/Polaris and the Hiss are capable of doing something to even people like Ahti or the Andersons, much like how the Dark Presence managed to hurt the Andersons and take things from them.
@@VDiddy5000 Ahti is also the name of the Finnish god of the ocean, and Alan Wake has referenced the multiverse being an ocean.
Whoa, I never knew this misson existed. When I was thoroughly completing the game, I suspected that there was more to the extrasensory lab. Especially because it was mentioned in one of the Darling's memos.
Cutting story content down to only be available on one platform is an egregious practice.
I think it is a Sony thing. I've been told in the comments here they are notorious for requesting exclusive stuff like this. I dont agree with the practice either.
Same, I have the Xbox version and didn't even know this existed 😢
Ah yes, the Hideo Kojima quest that was locked behind a specific edition of the game. (it's not even PS4 in general, only people who got the ultimate edition who get this, I think)
I dont remember having the special edition but I guess I did lol. Thought it was just ps4 in general.
It’s not in the Ultimate Edition on PS5, which is a real disappointment. I started playing it recently after AW2 made me want to experience Control again. I missed this side quest a lot as I didn’t even know it was an extra when I first played it.
@@hyperdeath84 I guess this mission is an IRL altered world event with how nonsensical getting it has been...
To be fair, that sounds like the most Kojima thing ever.
Well done on this another Control video, hyped for Alan Wake 2 and Control 2!
Since the promo art I'm on the hype train again
The remaining candidates are a fascinating concept. What were their circumstances? What can they do? Did they suffer as much from the program as Dylan did?
It is a detail that I find intriguing too. If even one of then is still alive it is worth exploring.
Sam lake could be a name of one just for the humor of it.
This particular motif gives me the vibes of Walter from Fringe TV Series - loved this so much!
Dude Fringe is incredible! We have a cat named Walter for that very reason.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Awwww
I wasn't expecting Kojima therapy at 1:30 AM, but I got it. Thanks!
It is always a good time for Kojima therapy lol
Such a shame that not all ports are created equal, I’ve beaten control 100% twice once on launch then again on the next gen patch and I had no idea this mission even existed
Edit: on Xbox
I have no clue why this was a ps4 exclusive. Considering the implications for the setting it is a shame.
@@GamingUniversityUoG PlayStation often buys exclusive rights to missions and cosmetics in games! Weapons in destiny 2, a quest line in the upcoming Harry Potter game, a bunch of goodies in calisto protocol! It’s part of their marketing strategy that unfortunately largely gets a pass even though it hurts gaming as a whole.
If I remember correctly the Oldest House is in 33 Thomas street(Possible connection to Thomas Zane). The new Art work for Control 2 shows the 3 floating bodies and behind them you see the entire building is covered and contained/quarantined . I wonder if that building is the apartment complex where Alan Wake used to live.
I'd have to look and see if there is a residential district in Thomas Street. Considering AW2 will be out before Control 2 I imagine we will get some form of tie in.
GOTT-DAMN, this is hands down one of the best channels on the platform!
Thank you so much! I'll do my best to live up to the praise.
Please please do not stop making videos. These are an incredible source of understanding this incredible story.
I do not plan to stop any time soon! Honestly, I'd love to get into writing my own stuff.
@@GamingUniversityUoG was Control a big contributing factor to that?
Damn Remedy's love for exclusive deals
Kind of sucks. At least this one was released on all platforms unlike Alan Wake. This quest aside.
So, this question is easily answered. Who is Dr. Tokui? Well, Hideo Kojima.
Great video again, looking forward to more Control and Alan Wake and Remedyverse content
Lmao yep. Check the pinned comment. The silhouette on the thumbnail is an image of Kojima!
I've scoured this game for content and somehow I missed this side mission entirely. I don't even remember seeing that section of Research. I'll definitely be taking another look tonight
I believe it only appears if you have the special edition copy of the ps4 version. Otherwise there is no wheat. However, you can still find the document in the observation room above the sensory lab.
Hey, this is a great supplement! I asked about this in a comment about a week ago, you must've been working on it already! I didn't even know Dr. Tokui was considered for the prime candidate program. This is awesome!
I was biting my teeth when you commented about it lol. Knew we had something in the works for this topic.
I don't know Mr. Gaming University, who is Dr. Tokui?
He is Hideo Kojima... no joke haha
@@GamingUniversityUoG Huh... I've yet to get around to play Control, and this actual makes me want to try it out, if only just to get a low down on what the hells happening.
Either way, glad I could finally make this lame joke, so I hope you have a lovely day, and keep up the good work.
Oh you should definitely check it out of you want an SCP third person shooter. And the japanese voice actor for Dr. Tokui is Hideo Kojima. The mind behind Metal Gear and Death Stranding. He had a little cameo here.
And you have a great day too!
Huh. This quest was DEFINITELY not on my ps4 game version. And here i thought I'd done all the quests..
Love your videos, btw, thanks for the upload :)
Ok so it isn't just me then. Never saw the sensory deprivation lab in Research but I'm gonna try to find it tonight
@@Endgame_01 yeah, you aren't alone, I platinum'd control, I definitely went to the sensory deprivation tank area and interacted with all I could. No quest.
I think certain versions, even ps4 versions, were not shipped with this quest unlocked
@@jrodriguez9608 ok, that's a bummer.
@@Endgame_01 Yep. The completionist in me is dying inside, knowing that.
Hope your game version has the quest. Good luck :D
I may be mistaken then. I thought it was ps4 specifically but everyone is telling me it is the special edition of the ps4 version. That blows. Sorry you guys cant get access to it.
This is a reference to the Gateway Experience, a declassified cia document! The two tapes are played at different frequencies to induce hemisphere synchronization in the brain!
The tapes even use wave sounds!
Man, Kojima talking about a beach… I’ve seen how this plays out…
Lmao!
This comment is more relevant now than ever!
Another great lore dive, my friend! Can't wait to see what new connections you'll find with Alan Wake 2 next year, as well as Control 2 in the near future!
Thank you friend! I'm beyond excited to be able to five into a new Remedy game with everyone
And yet another splendid episode. Well done.
Appreciate it!
Your analysis are excellent & professional. Glad I subscribed.
Control has so much potential that I don't want the devs rushing the development. They can take their time.
Your channel is criminally underrated
That is kind of you to say. We cover a lot of niche fandoms so it comes with the territory. I'm just happy to be able to talk to Remedy fans as a result of these videos
i am so tired about to go to sleep but my god i can't wait to wake up tomorrow and binge watch all ur videos
Haha well hope you got some good rest. Enjoy the binge
Man, I love your lore videos, the presentation keeps getting better ever since I found this channel looking up Ahti. If I knew how to make my own videos, I'd probably make something similar.
Thank you so much!
Honestly I didn't know how to do this either when I started. Just grabbed Lightworks editor and played around with it until something worked. 1st video took 6 months until I got it. Never hurts to dabble if you're curious about trying it out.
Dang man you deserve more views these videos you do are really good 🎉
*Ooo, here's an idea for your next control video*
How about breaking down Dylan's secret hotline message that was found in the game files from controls ultimate edition/awe expansion?
I'd love to hear your take on what Dylan says.. I found it odd he mentions loud thunder in it,(The thundersong distorts you!)
/Watch?v=xfO7cu6NK7Q
In case you have trouble finding it
I'll have to go back and relisten to it. It has been a while since I poked around that secret call.
Once again I’m questioning my very existence, thanks again for this great video!
Absolutely!
Chester Bless could be a Prime Candidate.
I hope they explore his parautilitarian abilities in a spin-off or sequel.
That's just Sick!!
Haha thanks dude! Wish this quest made it into the other ports. It is a fun little aside.
You considered doing a video on the secret backwards message in the song "Take Control"? Looks like people figured out this super secret, but would love your insightful perspective. I get the jist, but don't fully grasp the first decoded line "In their drunken fevered state, seeing double, profoundly, the pyramid in the stolen file becomes a spruce tree"
That first line now answered in Alan Wake 2. Dayum Remedy is good.
now we need control 2!!!
We need it yesterday!
Its a shame that these side missions arent available for the PC version of the game. I would have liked to play them. Nice Video as always!
Agreed. I dont like exclusive content but it is what it is I guess.
@@GamingUniversityUoG This a exclusive content for what version?
How did I miss this side mission?!!
PS4 only quest for some reason. It sucks but yeah.
As someone with aphantasia, I'd like to gently point out that not everyone views it as suffering. Neuro-atypicality (in this case at least) does not always mean that someone's experience is lesser than others. For example: though I can't "see" images with my mind, I can very vividly imagine emotions, concepts, and stories which many of my regularly-phantasiac peers cannot.
The following is largely anecdotal:
I don't have a way to back this up outside of personal experience, but I read an article about a study into aphantasia which suggested that people with aphantasia were often more creative than those with regular phantasia or hyper-phantasia. My personal experience (interviewing about two-dozen people in my life) is that this rings true. Of all the people I talked with, those who experienced some level of aphantasia seemed innately more skilled in creative (even visually creative) pursuits: such as drawing, film making, etc. while those who could readily see images in their minds often found themselves unable to express their creative impulses (if they had any). In one extreme case, I have a friend who is hyper-phantasiac, and has always struggled with managing to get ideas out of his head. On the contrary, I'm a graphic designer, illustrator, writer, and programmer, all of which comes relatively easily to me.
Without significant deviation, everybody fell into these groups: lower / no phantasia higher levels of creative ability; or regular / increased levels of phantasia with diminished creative ability.
Undoubtedly, part of this is practice. But I went 27 years of my life not knowing that anyone experienced the world differently than myself, and in the case of my friend, his lack of ability is not for lack of trying. I've seen him attempt to practice painting and drawing, and he struggles with both, and then becomes frustrated and stops. On the other side of things, he is quite gifted musically, where I am not. The roles there are flipped - he hadn't really touched an instrument until his 20s, and managed to learn both bass guitar and drums relatively quickly. I've been trying to play drums and piano for many years and always struggled with things like timing or remembering where the right keys / tones are.
Different strokes, and all that. But my point is that neuro-diversity should not imply suffering. Aphantasia is not implicitly an illness or a disability - at least not to me, I'm sure others will disagree. I see it as just another facet of how we experience this world.
Hmm. Awesome vid. Love diving into the game(s). Makes me wonder if Hideyoshi Oshima from Cyberpunk is the same person, a descendent, or from different time era via the whole Quantum Break thing? Doubtful, but find to think about.
Never played cyberpunk so I couldn't comment.
1:05 I didn't know Alan Wake was set in the Control universe
Oh 100%. That's the big thing for Remedy moving forward right now.
I finally finished the foundation dlc, i´m excited at the prospect of control 2.
Same! Cant wait for them to release sine info on it after they finish up AW2
This isn't really the right video to comment this on, and you may have speculated this yourself, but do you think Former may be Nidhogg, the serpent or dragon at the foot of Yggdrasil? He does have some serpentine qualities to him.
Also, if he is, then it follows that The Board is either the cosmic eagle or Vêrfolne.
The other animals may have analogues in Control & Alan Wake, but I don't know who they'd be. I'm perhaps most curious about who or what would be the squirrel Ratatosk, which carries insults between the birds and the serpent.
EDIT: Also, the Former with its serpentine qualities could also be the Christian serpent, the devil. It's literally formerly a part of the Pyramid/Board/Heaven?
??
I am thinking Bendy and the Dark Revival with this. I won't explain why...
I know that name but know nothing of what it's from.
Always love your content! just a thought but have you played through Returnal? Do you have any takes on it, the story is mind bending and can't see that anyone has really put anything out there explaining it's lore
I have not played it but it is on my to do list. I've heard good things
I have Aphantasia, life is fun.
Haven't looked into it much. How is it?
@@GamingUniversityUoG It’s kind of like all sorts of visual thoughts are limited to just ‘knowing’ what one is thinking instead of actually seeing it. Personally, I think it makes the relationship between me and my thoughts feel less intimate, but that could just be me. The biggest downside is reading at least to me is painfully boring, visualization is a big part of reading and when you literally cannot do it reading just isn’t as fun.
I have aphantasia and in college I learned that I can hallucinate just fine. (I can also dream)
Missed this in the game :(
It is easy to miss and only shows up on the ps4 port.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Guess that explains why. Did a lot of side content in the game on PC and had no clue this exists :(
Cool video though!
This mission is a prototype of AW2
Yay Control. 😁
I have no profound or even mediocre insights on this one, just "Good job!" :)
Haha appreciate it!
Is there gonna be a video on the hotline call history? The janitors from before that used it?
There's really not much to say. Some custodians went in to clean the place. Carol Bishop was the last in there. But again 0 info to say anything past that.
What if those 5 became 05-Council of the SCP Foundation?
It would be the cross over of the decade
1 problem, there are 13 members.
Due to the gift of hindsight and this is a spoiler for Alan Wake 2 so proceed only if youve beaten it:
I believe Saga Anderson may have been considered early in her FBI career due to her abilities of being a seer. This is purely speculation as well as just going off of seeing how the Bureau sees paranatural abilities like hers
The compete edition on PS5 doesn't have the Sensory experience side quest, that still pisses me off to this day since it's PlayStation exclusive content..
I dont blame you. Locking stuff behind different versions has never sat right with me
@@GamingUniversityUoG No, with respect, you don't get what I'm saying... I have it on PlayStation 5 and I don't have the PlayStation content.
I've played through the game twice (on playstation) and haven't experienced this - apparently I need to be more thorough
I dont know how i didnt find this given i played on ps4
Some people have been telling me it is only the pre-ordered deluxe edition on ps4 only. I dunno. It's weird.
@@GamingUniversityUoG must be why, i never preorder games
I think Alan, Thomas, the Anderson Brothers all were possible prime candidates
Alan for sure was. No one knew who Zane was since he was removed from existence so probably not him. The Andersons... possibly. I wouldn't though if I were Trench. They are older than him and a little senile.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Trench might remember Zane, Jesse did.
My guess is that Dylan killed P1-5. That's why we don't find them Hiss possessed.
The reason P3 is not present in the game because they're busy in Russia at Facility 3826
How do you unlock the mission on pc?
Also you didn't drop the link to the test in the description 😬
EDIT: I found out how and it's in my comment below this one
This is what happens when I upload at 2am lol. I updated the description with the link.
I have no clue how to Mod the PC version to get this. There are guides online you can find.
@@GamingUniversityUoG Thanks 😇 I'll poke around online for it
EDIT: I can't see shit in my minds eye haha
I found a steam forum post with steps, basically the following:
-download a hex editor like HxD
-Find the Control_DX11 and Control_DX12 exe files in the game directory and make copies somewhere safe.
-Open one of the original exe files in the game folder using the hex editor
-Search for 40 84 ED 75 07 as hex, then paste insert 40 84 ED EB 07 in place of it. You can see it's only changing one number so alternatively just modify that number
-save that
-repeat for the other exe file and save
-Run control via your launcher.
You will need to run to the extrasensory lab or find a tape to trigger the mission. The lab branches off from parapsychology in central research. There are two tapes to find and bring to the lab, I found one of the tapes to trigger the mission but there is a recorder and associated lore document in the lab that would also trigger it I think.
I have the PS4 version and never saw this case file or mission 😔😔😔
You can start it by going to the Research Sector and examining a tape recorder in the Extrasensory Lab. Across from where you got the Xray Light Box OoP
@@GamingUniversityUoG no im literally there right now and haven't found anything
@@f4uincorporated25 that's disappointing. Maybe you need to have the AWE expansion?
What is this place in 10:31 ??
So that's a bit of promo art released for Control 2. It is located right outside the front doors of the Oldest House.
@@GamingUniversityUoG ❤️
I'm upset this side quest wasn't included in Xbox.
Why does Xbox get limited content??
I think either 505 or Remedy had a deal with playstation. No clue
8:04 I don’t want to touch the dead body, I aren’t that fond of touching live ones let along dead ones all in all it sounds like a really bad idea so I’ll pass.
8:12 see I told you it was a bad idea but you didn’t listen to me and now look what it got you, I’m always right.