So, you buy a nearly $100k car that can charge at over 200kW@800V but then you need to fork over $460 for an optional charger if you want to charge faster than 50kW at a 400V charger. That's kinda ... stupid. Hyundai/Kia does it differently afaik, they use the same charging electronics for both 400V and 800V (there's no reason you can't put 400V through your 800V circuitry) and, if I'm not mistaken, the battery pack itself can simply switch how the cells are connected to each other. Essentially it has 2 400V packs that you can either put in parallel for 400V charging or in series for 800V charging.
Awesome report, dream car will stay out of reach for me. I just hope we get affordable BEVs (like you get in China) in the west before I can’t drive anymore!
The Taycans must rely on an onboard heavy-duty DC/DC-Converter in order to DC-charge on just 400V. it sits about were the gearbox normally sits... And the CCS chargeport on the right front fender works very well in Tesla superchargers with the stalls BETWEEN the charging bays, when pulling in nose-first. It does not work with charging stalls at center rear of the charging bay, which is the most prevalent at Tesla Supercharger locations.
Spectacular car! You praised the fast charging rate. That sounds good until you find that Porsche offers a deduced charging rate option, which it says will extend battery life. So you need to decide if you want the fast rate or better battery life. That makes me worry about all EVs with high charging rates. I’ve happily owned a 2021 Tesla LR for over a year and always watch battery degradation videos. Love your channel. Keep up the wonderful videos.
Yes but this option is a good thing is it? It's in your control, meaning you can switch in on or off. Lets say I lease it as my company car for 2 years, I would switch it off, if I buy one for a longer while I would switch it on, documented for being more caring to the battery.
Wait a minute.. what is this @22:56 ? Can't find anything even closely related in Porsche configurator. US thing? Surely it chargers the maximum it can from 400v system? Never seen such issues in Björn/Kris videos.
...nor in Kyle videos... This is not an issue in the USA, because there are no public-charging stations operating at 400 volts (except Tesla charging stations, which the Taycan cannot use -- yet). My understanding is that there is no plan for CSS charging stations at 400 volts in the US. The only reason, therefore, that you might need the 400-volt "upgrade" in a Taycan is if Tesla opens its 400-volt charging stations to CSS vehicles. In Europe, you might want the 400-volt upgrade; there are plenty in instances where Kris and Björn have had slow charging with their Taycans, but I don't know if their vehicles had the upgrade or not.
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So, you buy a nearly $100k car that can charge at over 200kW@800V but then you need to fork over $460 for an optional charger if you want to charge faster than 50kW at a 400V charger. That's kinda ... stupid.
Hyundai/Kia does it differently afaik, they use the same charging electronics for both 400V and 800V (there's no reason you can't put 400V through your 800V circuitry) and, if I'm not mistaken, the battery pack itself can simply switch how the cells are connected to each other. Essentially it has 2 400V packs that you can either put in parallel for 400V charging or in series for 800V charging.
Thanks, very informative and a joy to watch!
Awesome report, dream car will stay out of reach for me. I just hope we get affordable BEVs (like you get in China) in the west before I can’t drive anymore!
Totally agree, great review , love the Kate - Nikki exchanges format
The music always matches the feel of the car perfectly!
Great review guys, this car is certainly one for the drivers bucket list...
The Taycans must rely on an onboard heavy-duty DC/DC-Converter in order to DC-charge on just 400V. it sits about were the gearbox normally sits...
And the CCS chargeport on the right front fender works very well in Tesla superchargers with the stalls BETWEEN the charging bays, when pulling in nose-first. It does not work with charging stalls at center rear of the charging bay, which is the most prevalent at Tesla Supercharger locations.
Spectacular car! You praised the fast charging rate. That sounds good until you find that Porsche offers a deduced charging rate option, which it says will extend battery life. So you need to decide if you want the fast rate or better battery life. That makes me worry about all EVs with high charging rates. I’ve happily owned a 2021 Tesla LR for over a year and always watch battery degradation videos. Love your channel. Keep up the wonderful videos.
Yes but this option is a good thing is it? It's in your control, meaning you can switch in on or off. Lets say I lease it as my company car for 2 years, I would switch it off, if I buy one for a longer while I would switch it on, documented for being more caring to the battery.
I agree, but it’s unlikely my company would spring for a Taycan 🤣.
@@mikelecomte3979 yeah I understand that ;) hey doesn't cost anything to ask right :)
Shooting break!!!
Thank you. Such a nice car. I would love one, but I need to send two daughters to college. Maybe I can manage to get a used one in 10 years.
25:40 thank you so much for remarking that SUVs are not cars
You can move the vents through the PCM, by the way - it's the "Tesla"-way.
Was the „battery friendly charging“ option enabled? This will alter the charging curve and limit the maximum KW to 200.
Fantastic car
I'm team long version. Hope you get to do the BMW iX soon!
That's a sexy car - even sexier dirty ;)
Beautiful car and great in-depth review. I want to have one.
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Wait a minute.. what is this @22:56 ? Can't find anything even closely related in Porsche configurator. US thing? Surely it chargers the maximum it can from 400v system? Never seen such issues in Björn/Kris videos.
...nor in Kyle videos... This is not an issue in the USA, because there are no public-charging stations operating at 400 volts (except Tesla charging stations, which the Taycan cannot use -- yet). My understanding is that there is no plan for CSS charging stations at 400 volts in the US. The only reason, therefore, that you might need the 400-volt "upgrade" in a Taycan is if Tesla opens its 400-volt charging stations to CSS vehicles. In Europe, you might want the 400-volt upgrade; there are plenty in instances where Kris and Björn have had slow charging with their Taycans, but I don't know if their vehicles had the upgrade or not.
Is this Porsches answer to Tesla, when they said thei'll eat Tesla soon? Lol, soooo poooor.
Such an overpriced car
yeah exactly! If you don't have the money all of them are overpriced :)