Wizard101: Is Wiz on Console Doomed to Fail?

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  • Опубликовано: 24 ноя 2024

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  • @skunkooo
    @skunkooo 2 месяца назад +42

    if they're dead set on no cross play, they NEED to change the pricing structure and commit to some form of exclusive content

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад +7

      Heavy on the pricing structure change 🗣

    • @giovannizepeda252
      @giovannizepeda252 2 месяца назад +1

      10 bucks a month isn't much money, but I guess so. They can do an incentive program where they charge 10 at first and go down a dollar every month until a person's acct reaches 5 dollars a month. It would be the same structure as the point system to get rewards and if you stop getting member. It'll go up a dollar a month until max at 10 dollars

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад +1

      @@giovannizepeda252 I think that's def a good idea! I can see what you mean about $10 being not that much but it's also what it adds up to overtime and if it's worth it to spend that much on just one game.

    • @grimaIias
      @grimaIias 2 месяца назад

      @@giovannizepeda25210 bucks add up if you pay for both pc and console + people have pirate101 membership ☠️

    • @Pksv-
      @Pksv- 2 месяца назад +4

      ​​@@giovannizepeda252I get you wanna meat ride Kingsisle but at least have some common sense. Who is gonna pay 10$ A MONTH, on top of the already 10-15$ 99% of console people already pay just to play online. Let alone on a game like Wiz which sad to say looks likes a fucking 2014 game still and runs like garbage because the engine behind it is outdated asf? I love wiz but they've literally had so much time to change, yet done nothing but we still have to fork over 10$ to play 10-12 years later. That system idea you had for the membership is horrible btw, you shouldn't get punshied and have to pay more because you want to take a break or play something else for a bit like what lol?

  • @DaddySadiist
    @DaddySadiist 2 месяца назад +25

    I've been playing since middle school and am almost 30 now. Have been begging for a console release for years but they can go to Hell if they think I'm going to start over.

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад +6

      For real, they had ONE job 😭

    • @kawhite5344
      @kawhite5344 2 месяца назад +1

      If you can afford a console then you can afford a shitty laptop to run wiz

    • @karma3351
      @karma3351 2 месяца назад

      Exactly my opinion and situation lmao

    • @Nirv2267
      @Nirv2267 2 месяца назад

      ​@kawhite5344 It's not about just playing it. I wanna play it on my couch on my tv with a controller without having to run a hdmi from my pc or having to configure a 3rd party controller.

    • @curtishammond9872
      @curtishammond9872 2 месяца назад +1

      Just start over

  • @michaelcollier6968
    @michaelcollier6968 2 месяца назад +4

    I don't see new players wanting to do a monthly subscription to play the content past the pay wall that's currently in effect, nor do I see returning players being fine with picking up a second pay-wall subscription for the long term. If they keep the pay wall, they NEED to let pc accounts already with the subscription log onto their current accounts and pick up where they left off

    • @erikrodgers7017
      @erikrodgers7017 23 дня назад

      @@michaelcollier6968 I've been playing on Xbox for over 2 years now.
      In order to keep your account active, it requires the player to be current monthly like most people do to get all the benefits of MEMBERSHIP.
      I doubt if MEMBERSHIP players would be willing to go a year without renewing their MEMBERSHIP to continue getting their favoritism from KI and Gamigo.

  • @killaxmatt
    @killaxmatt 2 месяца назад +13

    I think it will severely hurt its success. The whole appeal of having it on console is to expand its audience and make it more accessible for players. I was looking forward to being able to go to work or wherever and have my Nintendo switch and being able to play. Then head home and play on my Xbox or computer if I want. That’s the accessibility we want. Not to mention those without PCs who I’d be able to play with. Them doing this alienates each player base and PC players aren’t going to make a brand new account when who knows how much time and money they’ve spent on their own accounts as is. So what’s going to end up happening is everyone just staying on pc anyways and the consoles being pretty empty. I would also like to say that if they do want to release on console they need to make arc 1 free already. That and remaster the first arcs worlds. Players who never seen wiz might get turned off by the drop in graphics. First impressions are everything.

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад +1

      Yeah I agree with that, they're working on redesigning Arc 1 graphics but they're inconsistent with when these changes would come out and at the end of the day it looks like there won't be a good amount of players without PC crossplay.

    • @killaxmatt
      @killaxmatt 2 месяца назад +3

      Note on the graphics comment btw: I know graphics don’t make a game but with new gamers it does play a factor. Although I can look past it cause I grew up with old wiz. Think of a new player who is used to all the high quality looking games coming to wiz. They come to wizard city and everything is pretty nice. Then right after they get dropped into kroktopia which is a huge shift for a new player in terms of quality. I feel if I was brand new going from how wizard city looks now to Krok I would feel ripped off. As if the developers sold me on a false dream. I know this isn’t the case and the fact is that it’s just an old game. But new players won’t be as forgiving as us who grew up with wiz and are used to its flaws

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад +3

      @@killaxmatt Yeah I agree with that too, playing Krok and Mooshu hurts my eyes fr 😭

    • @erikrodgers7017
      @erikrodgers7017 23 дня назад

      @@killaxmatt some of the videos I watched within the last three Fridays, seem to me as if KI and Gamigo might be starting over on console to get back to the originality of the game.
      Before all the trials to a child's game was added to make the game more challenging.

    • @erikrodgers7017
      @erikrodgers7017 22 дня назад

      @@killaxmattOk. Let's say you want to stay with Comp Wiz over Console Wiz
      What are you going to do if KI/Gamigo utilize Console Wiz as a swan song for Comp Wiz and stop supporting it?

  • @clipso9061
    @clipso9061 2 месяца назад +6

    Its not even out yet, and clean servers will be amazing for an audience that historically never had the means to play. If they ever figure out cross play between PC and consul they can just merge in a future update I think every point you made in this video is just bad faith. I a completely fresh server experience will be best for the game.

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад +2

      I can agree that it's a possibility that they can figure out crossplay with PC later but I don't see how I'm arguing in bad faith on points like how KI's predatory membership fee in what's advertised as a "Free to Play" game probably wouldn't fly in a console market. Especially not in an audience who, like you said, has never played the game as opposed to an audience where many buy memberships because of past experiences with the game. These are genuine concerns and I don't see how I'm deceiving or misleading people by pointing them out.

  • @aaronashcaster5875
    @aaronashcaster5875 2 месяца назад +10

    If it was cross platform it would be fine but they have already stated that it will be separate and you can’t transfer characters between them.
    I think they should pause the release of this until they can make it fully cross platform

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      I agree 100%! There is no way I see the release going well with their existing playbase having no option to play on console except to start over.

  • @Pksv-
    @Pksv- 2 месяца назад +9

    One Simple change is needed if they want Wiz to thrive on both pc and console.
    MAKE THE GAME FREE TO PLAY.

    • @selfishbeats
      @selfishbeats 2 месяца назад

      free dont pay the bills.

    • @enriquealvarez6145
      @enriquealvarez6145 2 месяца назад

      ​@@selfishbeatsever heard of a game called fortnite?

    • @Pksv-
      @Pksv- 2 месяца назад +2

      @@selfishbeats Let's see charging players 10$ a month and plus the people who pay by the yearly plan, add on 10-12 years of that plus the player count assuming every other wizard has member and wow you have a Shit load of money to blow. also add on top of the fact that their sever cost are pennies, and the devs only add shit every 6-9 months that's mediocre at best so why would they pay them absurd amounts of money, EVEN WITH THEIR COMPANY BUILDING it can't cost more than 30k-80k yearly. So yes free does pay the bills when your just sitting on giant piles of money and hoarding it for greedy ass reasons.

    • @selfishbeats
      @selfishbeats 2 месяца назад

      @@enriquealvarez6145 fortnite isn't built on leveling and linear story content. and the micro transactions pay the bills. that doesn't work for wiz. money pays for extras all you need is 10 dollars to progress through the game.

    • @selfishbeats
      @selfishbeats 2 месяца назад

      @@Pksv- lol nobody plays w101 like that I play like 2 months out the year; new world drops I play the game, sometime in the summer I play the game. If you don't have 10 dollars you need to find something else to do and even as a kid it was easy to get that 10 dollars and go get a membership card. also stop pocket watching, If i'm making money who are you to tell me I have too much if people determined I have financial value.

  • @RTU130
    @RTU130 2 месяца назад +4

    It needs cross play and the ability to use existing accounts

  • @erikrodgers7017
    @erikrodgers7017 28 дней назад

    Watched a video last Friday that had Leah tackling console issues. The following is take aways that I heard from her.
    First, they are working with an undisclosed second company in order to make their case for delivering Wiz to Console.
    Second, each presentation of Wiz to Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft requires a 90 day review of content. I didn't know anything about this regarding games on console.
    Third, Leah mentioned that they originally wanted to launch this year, but with the holidays coming and other console releases; they figured January or February 2025 was a better time to launch for the sale of name recognition. And even then it might be pushed back some.
    Fourth, Leah started mentioning side content like pets, gardening and fishing; but when she started to mention PVP, her voice trailed off. She seemed to indicate that they were going back to the beginning of it.
    Fifth, Leah mentioned that KI staff were wanting to go back to the originality of the game.

  • @genesisrhap6719
    @genesisrhap6719 2 месяца назад

    The only possible way I can see a consol release to be a one time purchase to get consol up to date on worlds and offering the same package for pc players. Afterwards they could keep subscription in order to play the newest content and member benefits but after an arc dropping an arc expansion like wow and FF14. They need to make huge compromise and lot of people will be mad.

  • @TheJPresents
    @TheJPresents 2 месяца назад

    That’s crazy man, college started back for me over a month ago. Great video though!

  • @Rolyerr
    @Rolyerr 2 месяца назад

    Considering they couldn't keep the same wizard characters we had between the PC and Steam versions. I'm not surprised this is the case.

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      Yeah, still really disappointing though tbh.

  • @ReversalExploitz
    @ReversalExploitz 2 месяца назад +1

    I really hope gamigo can figure out a way for pc and console to play together, whether its access our pc wizards while playing on console or true crossplay. I have many friends who play console who would be willing to play wizard101 with me, but I don't know if I want to pay for another membership and build a wizard from the ground up all over again. It'll also be really hard to convince my buds to pay to play a game they tried for maybe fifteen minutes before hitting a paywall. Really hope they can sort these concerns out in a way that will grow wizard101 and not kill it further.

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      I hope so too. It would actually bring so many new players to the game if they adjusted the paywall just a little bit and made crossplay viable!

    • @Supersayainslick
      @Supersayainslick 2 месяца назад

      ​@Firestarter_101 they can't do that much from the start when they released on console so gamigo is afraid that pc players helping people who are new so they want them to figure it out but for membership playstation might give free membership for their packs like other free games they did but hopefully autoclickers was the only trouble for pc players from the bazzare to get recipe so pc steam has to wait until they update new ui for more content for the game just like warframe

    • @cyrusvile6622
      @cyrusvile6622 2 месяца назад

      Dont hope they done this for 20 years with every game they ever bought. There buisness is based of milking what they bought to death. ​@Firestarter_101

  • @codywasson5894
    @codywasson5894 Месяц назад

    Well i feel like a good idea for Wizard101 on consoles is just get rid of the paywall for story but kinda “relaunch.” Wizard101 so the new players can experience the events and story updates more easily. So that way returning players can help out the new players on consoles then when the consoles players are at the current arc just go full cross platform. What do you think?

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  Месяц назад

      I agree that getting rid of the paywall for the first few months would be a good idea, unfortunately though they did reveal the reason for no cross play and it's due to console update restrictions (updates need to be reviewed) so it looks like it'll be exactly the same game as it is right now just with a different playerbase

    • @codywasson5894
      @codywasson5894 Месяц назад

      Well who knows how they’ll do the updates. I feel like if they do the wizard101 on consoles by doing the game “over” again I feel like the backlash won’t be as bad if they did it that way so people can get event specific items again. I feel like starting over won’t be as bad but that’s just me. Once the game comes out on console I will check it out to see if the pay wall is gonna be bad because that’s gonna be the huge thing that may or may not kill it. If the pay wall is bad it’s gonna kill Wizard101 on console but if people who have a their console online services maybe it can be considered a membership but I know that’s a dream.

  • @marklindquist2352
    @marklindquist2352 2 месяца назад

    Hmm maybe a reward system for returning players? Or something that would benefit the account based off total spent at least

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      Would def support that! I still don't know how many people would move though because of the time investment

  • @curtishammond9872
    @curtishammond9872 2 месяца назад

    Man I’m just excited to play wiz 101 on console

  • @gamerb0y135
    @gamerb0y135 2 месяца назад

    Probably but my gf and friends want me to play it i also get to see the game from the beginning again at least

  • @thedevilsapprentice6666
    @thedevilsapprentice6666 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm getting a sense that Kingsisle is doing console releases most likely out of desperation. After all KI only has one successful game, one semi successful that until recently had no updates in years, and 2 mobile games that you would only play to get gifts for your Wiz101 character. And every game company knows you need more then just one successful game to keep yourself afloat. So they are adding the game to consoles to try to keep the company alive. Will I play the console version? Yes. Will I be sad I have to start over? Yes but it wouldn't be the first time. I'm gonna play because my laptop can barely run RUclips, let alone Wizard101, meanwhile I have a PS5 I play every day.

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      At least you can experience the game with good frames now, sucks that you'll have to start over though 😭

  • @nightmxreblxze
    @nightmxreblxze 2 месяца назад +2

    another classic KI blunder, they cant seem to do anything right anymore

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      Honestly it's mostly Gamigo tbh, I hope that something changes soon though

  • @stepygaming9802
    @stepygaming9802 2 месяца назад

    I hope they do something

  • @attackeratul
    @attackeratul 2 месяца назад +1

    They managed to do a tremendous addition with crossplay and completely ruin it all together with separate servers from PC. What a joke KI is

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      Just wish Gamigo wasn't running things into the ground tbh.

  • @owenblinko
    @owenblinko 2 месяца назад

    Do you think they got a deal with game pass (or console equivalent)? Would this fix the wizard101 monthly subscription issue?

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      Honestly if they did do that it would be a great move but I feel like KI or Gamigo would be more greedy and choose the option that will get them the most money in the short term.

  • @Firestarter_101
    @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

    Comment your thoughts below on Wiz coming to console!

  • @Explorenature20253
    @Explorenature20253 2 месяца назад

    I have a Pc account but i need to be on switch when it drops 😢

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      Dang 😔

    • @Explorenature20253
      @Explorenature20253 2 месяца назад

      @@Firestarter_101 I had that account since middle school smh I'm 22 Now I don't have a PC And all I have is the switch honestly I'm not playing from scratch

  • @htoowahshee5971
    @htoowahshee5971 2 месяца назад

    Honestly, idk how they could’ve move the game to iOS and android…
    💀 imagine how annoying it be playing on console though.

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      Yeah I always thought mobile was a bit ambitious 💀

  • @PrincessAshley-Kawaii
    @PrincessAshley-Kawaii 2 месяца назад

    Think Switch is the best console for Wiz lots of kids and its a family system. But also this opens up to more exploits.. black markets and worse... The idea i would need to make another account other then wiz launch, steam, and now a console account is just annoying did no one learn from the psn helldivers2? An even so the idea no cross play when steam and wiz launcher do connect baffles me... I played Neverwinter on xbox before swapping to pc and the fact i dropped more then im willing to admit on the xbox version to learn i needed to rebuy everything... sorta made me realize console games arent worth it.
    There is a reason pc is master race, its cause of modding, the porcessing power, the fact you can emulate, etc..

  • @sturdystubs
    @sturdystubs 2 месяца назад

    This is probably the most unfortunate and time wasting outcome. In my honest opinion they need to just halt development of Wizard101 for a solid year or two and work on an engine port to a more relevant engine that will improve performance and make it easier to port the game to console/mobile. My $3000 PC performs worse on this game than my $300 laptop which is just strange that the engine is so limiting. I have said this for a while now, I honestly can't wait for the game to die and for it to just be tossed out by Gamingo so a third party project spirals up just like Toontown/Club Penguin have. It will be way more healthy for the game when absolutely no one profits and runs the game servers purely from the heart.

  • @josecisneros3111
    @josecisneros3111 2 месяца назад

    U also have to think though console players won't have fun if they get rushed through the game I played wiz when it first dropped on pc. yea it sux but think about the pvp also it's not fair a pc player with 16 year of playing wiz can go n fight n new player. Crossplay would be nice after a few months after the new player know little bit more about the game and its mechanics

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      I see what you mean but you also need to consider that PvP is something only a small section of the playbase actually takes part in and that's more of end-game content. If the game doesn't have a whole lot of players then there's no guarantee queue would even be alive in the first place.

    • @brazil-y2y
      @brazil-y2y 2 месяца назад

      A brand-new player has far more chance if they are playing on the main North American server. There will be no help for Mount Olympus, Water Works, darkmoor or anywhere else. There won't be a single good pet to hatch. There won't be players offering tips and advice. There won't be players with treasure cards to spare to help. There won't be players with reagents that they can sell to help. It's going to be a completely barren community with very few of the current players making a brand-new account when you can't even meet old friends. To say this is baffling is an understatement. If you played before and watched big you tubers like blaze life hammer, you can't join him unless you play the PC version.

    • @josecisneros3111
      @josecisneros3111 2 месяца назад

      @user-hx3ko7vj4y I get wht u mean but I'm not against crossplay at all but at least let it run with out pc for 3 to 6 months then put it in that way new players have a chance to play before it gets flooded with and ur in a waiting list just to play. And big youtubers still help by explaining the game and lore of wiz. I rather not get carry. Yes it sux we can't transfer our data yet but u never know what's new without losing a few things. I restart most of my games after I'm done . But let's hope it does well

  • @brazil-y2y
    @brazil-y2y 2 месяца назад

    It's doomed anyway you look at it. It's one thing to prevent PC players using their accounts on console but essentially making it a new server means they need to attract an entire community from day one. Unless they plan on making it completely free and reliant on micro-transactions, where is this player base coming from? This also brings up the problem if you make it free on console you're going to raise all kinds of hell and the current community who are paying to play this game. Either way the console server is going to be a literal complete reset, like when the game first started. It's not like a new player joining today on the PC version, they can get help with anything and you can forget about making a great pet. The dedicated community spent so much time and money making pets with great talent pools. There will be nothing for a long time and with such a limited player base, it's highly doubtful they will ever reach a great pet.

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      I agree, there is no audience for this to begin with.

  • @nathanielpham1947
    @nathanielpham1947 2 месяца назад

    Yes

  • @chaozgaming8565
    @chaozgaming8565 2 месяца назад

    Mobile Crash 2 Electric Boogalo-

  • @lukebaldwin3335
    @lukebaldwin3335 2 месяца назад

    How does one obtained that outfit

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      The Polaris Raid and Mirror Lake

    • @lukebaldwin3335
      @lukebaldwin3335 2 месяца назад

      @Firestarter_101 can it be done with 4 people or do you need 12

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      @@lukebaldwin3335 You need 12 unfortunately, there are tons of good guilds you can join though! Some advertise in The Wizard101 Discord if you're in that.

    • @lukebaldwin3335
      @lukebaldwin3335 2 месяца назад

      @Firestarter_101 do I need to join a guild to do the raid or can I just join one that's looking

    • @Firestarter_101
      @Firestarter_101  2 месяца назад

      @@lukebaldwin3335 You need to join a guild but some guilds allow you to just join for a raid if they need someone to fill.

  • @pokemonteam2900
    @pokemonteam2900 2 месяца назад

    They are so mean.. you cant play your old character:(

  • @AceVenChurro
    @AceVenChurro 2 месяца назад

    What is that robe?

  • @PseudoDak
    @PseudoDak 2 месяца назад

    Didn’t watch the video. Yes, it will.

  • @IceGoldPvP
    @IceGoldPvP 2 месяца назад

    wizarfd101

  • @toxyboi
    @toxyboi 2 месяца назад

    Youll never grow a channel covering dead ass games bro