A message to those who think a fighting style is better than another. It depends on the fighter, always. There is no martial art that is better than another martial art, there are fighters that are better than other fighters. Every martial art is intended to help the practitioner defend himself. Championship rules do not apply to practices, only when we practice for championships. (This line was specifically for those who hate karate and tkd.)
There are better martial arts. But it also depends on the fighter. If a MA has hits with all moving body parts, blocking to all those precise attacks, grappling, throwing, ground fighting and a good physical (attacking strength, speed, endurance and defense) and mental (moral, analytical and philosophical) training summed up with a good set of killing, protecting, attacking, neutralizing and escaping techniques, then it can be the perfect martial art. In conclusion, Kudo is the best martial art.
@@JaIwazlive yeh i am trained in 4 styles of karate 3rd dan in goju ryu 1st dan in tang soo do regular black belt in shotokan blue belt taekwondo yellow belt in shitō ryu seeing as I just started training in that
Muay Thai and Taekwondo’s the ultimate combination.The TKD practitioner isn’t supposed to do low kicks in a competition but he took advantage of the mma rules so he could do low kicks
You can see at the end where the arts do the most damage. For the muay Thai he held his chest from those devastating back and side kicks but taekwondo was holding his legs from those crazy Muay Thai shin kicks
Já fiz as duas também. A verdade é que se você for acertado por um chute vindo de um praticamente experiente de TKD, a chance de você ir direto pro hospital é grande. Eu nunca vi nada parecido, os caras chutam extremamente rápido e forte.
Eu sou um faixa laranja de Taekwondo, eu queria muito poder aprender várias artes marciais como por exemplo: Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai e Kung Fu. Eu sei um pouco de cada arte marcial que citei nos exemplos, no TKD que eu treino, eles me ensinam: Chutes, Bloqueios, Socos e Cotoveladas. Os socos e cotoveladas hoje em dia é bem raro de eu ver, mas já aprendi!
The choreography was amazing and the ending was unexpectedly funny 😂 Funny because back when I trained, I’ve been hit *there* and it isn’t pleasant, so I relate.
No hay una arte marcial que sea superior a otra, solo hay mejores practicantes, no es lo mismo poner a un cinturon negro de taekwondo contra un boxeador que recien esta empezando, lo mismo caso contrario.
0:17 In a real case scenario, the muay thai guy could just land clean and hard punches straight towards the taekwondo guy's face, and if the taekwondo guy isn't really prepared for those shots, then......
I like that the Taekwondo guy used his hands more because most people think of it just being kicks, as someone who trained taekwondo it incorporates punches kicks and even throws and counter attacks.
Los que piensan que el video es actuado no están notando un punto muy importante: ambos tienen un muy buen nivel de entreno, la riqueza de técnica mostrada por ambos es excelente. No hay artes marciales buenos o malos sino practicantes dedicados. Cada arte marcial es tan extenso en si mismo que una vida difícilmente alcanza para conocerlo. Es admirable como dos personas de artes marciales tan diferentes se llevan muy bien y se respetan. Saludos.
It depends on the fighter, always. There is no martial art that is better than another martial art, there are fighters that are better than other fighters.
there arent much Muay Thai fighters that are good besides the usual Rodtang and Buakaw and Saenchai. Tho there are lots of Taekwondo fighters in UFC or other mma fighting sports. Taekwondo just depends on the fighter.
When it comes to fighting dont feel the pain embrce it both martial art are great and teakwondo can be effective if we use the old ways of doing it and more hand blocks ❤
To all the people who thinks taekwondo is just for fancy kicks and not at all works in a street fight. You have to understand it’s not about how effective the martial art is, is about how you use it. No martial arts are more superior than others because it all depends on the person. Additional notes: nowadays taekwondo is more focus on sport and points fighting while still keeping the contact-fight, obviously those sport categories would not work in a fight because it’s like saying “basketball won’t work in a fight”. Stop being so ignorant about martial arts and actually open your fricking mind
such an underrated comment, some people on the comments section just can’t seem to understand it, probably because they’ve never seen it in action or just went with other people
They both were pretty even. But in a real fight, it's pretty likely that a muay thai practitioner would against a TKD practitioner, because TKD fighters aren't trained to take hits like muay thai fighters are. TKD looks flashy and is quick, but muay thai is the hammer of Thor so to speak.
In a real fight, the result all depends on who has a better training, regarding the martial art. En una pelea real el resultado dependera de quien tiene un mejor entrenamiento, sin importar el arte marcial.
Muat thai is better. I trained in both. The concept of techniques is to usw the technique that is more accurate, damaging and less energy consuming. Muay thai achieves this very well. Taekwondo does not. But taekwondo does have some good techniques that are useful.
That's what people don't understand, in many games they try to say how in street fighter the martial artists are the fastest characters with good attack range while the fighters are the fastest Heavy ones lack speed and range but have the most powerful attacks
@@Joandavidargumedodeja de comparar, debe de del peleador y como maneje su disciplina, para mí el boxeo y jet kune do son los más rápidos y brutales, pero también como digo depende como lo domines, yo fui amateur y valgan verdades desarrolle una velocidad de la luz, pero me hubiese gustado aprender jet kune do, sería como un Mike TYSON y bruce lee en una persona 😂😂
Muchachito(a) Cada quien tiene su gusto y no desprecies mi deporte, el taekwondo es mejor porqué pelea limpio. El boxeo o mua thay usan trucos sucios como usar implantes de acero en las manos y las tapan con los guantes para que el rival no se de cuenta el taekwondo no usa nada de eso de hecho ninguna arte marcial excepto las de Tailandia
i just wanted to let you know that the combinations starting from 1:04 and 1:21 were big inspiration for most of the ways I fought in my taekwondo club and I am one of the best now and have won 2 tournaments. I was close to beginner when I first saw your video
the weaker kid kicks were just less impactful because they were checked a little bit, also his body build calls for mid range combat more so than trying to clinch, especially from a cinematography stand point
@@humamnazar248 Than Similar it is like the karate shotokan with the taekwondo. Or the brazilian jiujitsu with the russian sambo. Similar but different. You can see it searching on youtube.
@@jesusangelcardetduenas8736Every Fighter have a different style they are not robot to fight equal, Look at Anderson Silva and Shogun both are Thai Fighters but too different.
@@jesusangelcardetduenas8736Shogun are more a Stand and Fight Guy, Anderson Silva are a Master of Counter Attack and have a Amazing Footwork and use the distance to control his opponents.
Need more front snap kicks and front thrust kicks. Straight kicks are faster and less risky than excessive roundhouse kicks. However, you guys went at it for real and probaqblly harder than some sanctioned professional matches, so I'm still impressed.
GRAN VIDEO. Una calidad que nada tiene que envidiar a los de Hollywood. Gran puesta en escena por parte de los artistas marciales. Podemos destacar los golpes de poder del arte tailandés; pero la pelea tuvo momentos importantes también para el arte coreano. Muchos creen que por el uso de articulaciones, agarres y proyecciones en muaytay demostró ser mejor, pero no fue así. En una pelea real el taekwondoyin pudiera haber aprovechado los momentos de desconcierto al conectar patadas a la cabeza, en ese momento su rival perdió peligrosamente la noción de espacio tiempo por varias décimas que hubieran sido suficientes para que le hubieran destruido o por lo menos tomar ventaja definitiva. Este combate, aunque artificial, demostró que ambos estilos son muy buenos y no hay un claro vencedor. El final, espectacular e inesperado... Felicidades.
Bro the taekwando player falled so many times while the muay thai one was just falled 2 times and also im a Taekwondo player but this does not like anger me.
Great show. ITF TKD I guess (kicks not speed optimized, comparatively a lot of hands used)? Would be interesting video if both had WTF gear: would enable real full contact.
more like a what if simulation. truth is? from a martial arts standpoint either fighter could have prevailed. what most people fail to realize is that it isn't the style but the individual thats important.
They think it's only about kicks that are useless and impractical. They're pretty versatile though and depending on the school you will also practice hand strikes and grappling moves.
People Hate TKD because they think it’s just being flashy but when I trained in TKD they had me spare against five opponents often and they taught me how to strike, throw and joint locks so in conclusion people hate TDK because they don’t know TKD
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The most effective martial art you can learn is multiple martial arts
Nah bro once I see red the bodies start dropping
MMA all the way ✊
MMA us sport no Arte marcial 😂😂😂 noob
MMA ❤
A message to those who think a fighting style is better than another.
It depends on the fighter, always. There is no martial art that is better than another martial art, there are fighters that are better than other fighters. Every martial art is intended to help the practitioner defend himself.
Championship rules do not apply to practices, only when we practice for championships. (This line was specifically for those who hate karate and tkd.)
👏👏👏
You are right it depends what you like more
There are better martial arts. But it also depends on the fighter. If a MA has hits with all moving body parts, blocking to all those precise attacks, grappling, throwing, ground fighting and a good physical (attacking strength, speed, endurance and defense) and mental (moral, analytical and philosophical) training summed up with a good set of killing, protecting, attacking, neutralizing and escaping techniques, then it can be the perfect martial art. In conclusion, Kudo is the best martial art.
Finally someone who gets it
Damn, this is far better than most hollywood fight scenes....😁👍
You should watch Telugu movie fight scenes
Taekwondo can be effective trained properly.
Yeah but its sometimes quite useless but i use it for emergencies
The most DEVASTATING KICKS
@@supersaiyanjack9233 bro is a martial arts expert
@@JaIwazlive yeh i am trained in 4 styles of karate 3rd dan in goju ryu 1st dan in tang soo do regular black belt in shotokan blue belt taekwondo yellow belt in shitō ryu seeing as I just started training in that
@@JaIwazlive so dont judge a book by its cover
It’s not the form that’s matter, it’s the fighter
Taekwondo : we use our legs
Muay thai : we break them
Not exist best Martial arts, but only good practicioners! 😂
Muay Thai and Taekwondo’s the ultimate combination.The TKD practitioner isn’t supposed to do low kicks in a competition but he took advantage of the mma rules so he could do low kicks
How did the camera man get so close to the scene, he got some good angles 🗿
You can see at the end where the arts do the most damage. For the muay Thai he held his chest from those devastating back and side kicks but taekwondo was holding his legs from those crazy Muay Thai shin kicks
Is not about style,but fighter
100% true
3 kicks in 1 second 2:43 ...Very Nice.
This is a very normal Taekwondo move, Taekwondo is based on distance and speed but one thing you should never forget the main thing is strategy
I like how they start picking up each other's moves, like the spinning hook kick from the Muay Thai guy and the kick catch/sweep from the tkd guy
Cada estilo tem as suas qualidades mas eu pessoalmente prefiro o taekwondo, pratiquei ambas durante muitos anos e acho que são ambas brutais!
Já fiz as duas também. A verdade é que se você for acertado por um chute vindo de um praticamente experiente de TKD, a chance de você ir direto pro hospital é grande. Eu nunca vi nada parecido, os caras chutam extremamente rápido e forte.
Eu sou um faixa laranja de Taekwondo, eu queria muito poder aprender várias artes marciais como por exemplo: Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai e Kung Fu. Eu sei um pouco de cada arte marcial que citei nos exemplos, no TKD que eu treino, eles me ensinam: Chutes, Bloqueios, Socos e Cotoveladas. Os socos e cotoveladas hoje em dia é bem raro de eu ver, mas já aprendi!
When it comes to long range, Taekwondo shreds, but in close range Muay Thai is just superior. That poor taekwondo guy got beaten up in close range.
finally i found it again i came across this masterpiece like a couple months and i came looking for it again now i found it
@@WhirlwindAction nice
the fact that they both start learning from each other as they go on longer
The fact that the muay thai guy didn't get a single full power knee, or elbow or even a punch made it look staged af
@fandegames624 yh
bro its not like ur a fucking olympic expert lmao
@fandegames624 probably for wtf but not itf which itf is basically a tkd kickboxer
@@syafuzayna it's obvious lmfaoooo
Like even without ever doing martial arts it's obvious that it's all acting
@@TheFrëakyCloud乂 ofc its staged im complaining the fact that u just said "elbow knee Full POWER" sounds like ur an olympic champion or smth lmfaoo
The visuals really made this look like a movie
The choreography was amazing and the ending was unexpectedly funny 😂
Funny because back when I trained, I’ve been hit *there* and it isn’t pleasant, so I relate.
Taekwondo will let your legs strong but Muay Thai will let legs and hands strong because it contain movements with hands and legs
so does karate
Parece que Muay Thai es más efectivo de cerca, mientras que taekowndo es más efectivo a la distancia
No hay una arte marcial que sea superior a otra, solo hay mejores practicantes, no es lo mismo poner a un cinturon negro de taekwondo contra un boxeador que recien esta empezando, lo mismo caso contrario.
0:17 In a real case scenario, the muay thai guy could just land clean and hard punches straight towards the taekwondo guy's face, and if the taekwondo guy isn't really prepared for those shots, then......
Or the TKD guy can rush in the Muay Thai before. Using your kicks and punches while pushing him, its a quite crazy ik but it can work.
1:01
There are a lot of flashy moves in this scene, but I love this one.
0:34
(And this one)
this is great... in real life most of the time either they are looking at each other or hugging each other
I'Love Taekwondo!!!🥋👊👍
Same🥰, red belt going for black here
@@zhaocaroline7161 Sorry ich kann kein Englisch,aber so viel ich Verstehe hast du Roter Gurt einer vor dem Schwarzen? Liebe Grüße aus der 🇨🇭👍💪
I like the muy thaí and taekwondo.
Is for gays
@@donlimpio347This comment is from animals
This video gives me tons of motivation as a tkd fighter
Wtf Is this a fuckin movie
Not WTF but ITF 😁
cant believe its been 10 years since this dropped. Yall did good with this piece!
That is such a great choreographed fight. It perfectly illustrated the beauty of both styles. Bravo!
"Adrenaline wore off!"
Both fighters: "-75hp"
Already know that this is scripted but was definitely entertaining.
This is a choreographed fight from several years ago, can we stop doing Muay Thai v Taekwondo arguments based on this
I like that the Taekwondo guy used his hands more because most people think of it just being kicks, as someone who trained taekwondo it incorporates punches kicks and even throws and counter attacks.
Real ones remember the original timeline this was posted 👊. We can thank Liu Kang for this repost in the new era ✌
Taekwondo and May Thai. I like them both.
He looked like what a real Taekwondo guy looks like.
all martial art is good but depend on the user😊
Los que piensan que el video es actuado no están notando un punto muy importante: ambos tienen un muy buen nivel de entreno, la riqueza de técnica mostrada por ambos es excelente. No hay artes marciales buenos o malos sino practicantes dedicados. Cada arte marcial es tan extenso en si mismo que una vida difícilmente alcanza para conocerlo. Es admirable como dos personas de artes marciales tan diferentes se llevan muy bien y se respetan. Saludos.
SI TIENES UN PUNTO
That kick on 1:41 would end a real fight.
Absolutely
While this is impressive choreography, Muay Thai would destroy any Taekwondo fighter
You can't compare martial arts.
@@-M.A.K- of course you can. That’s how you get better. Compare martial arts to understand what works and what doesn’t
It depends on the fighter, always. There is no martial art that is better than another martial art, there are fighters that are better than other fighters.
there arent much Muay Thai fighters that are good besides the usual Rodtang and Buakaw and Saenchai. Tho there are lots of Taekwondo fighters in UFC or other mma fighting sports. Taekwondo just depends on the fighter.
@@DanielRodriguez-dt9rt it is how the fighter starts is 50% 50%
Perfectly choreographed.
I gotta say it was fun to watch
Love the ending (; it’s so true though, every martial art is superior in its own way there is no “ best martial art”
And they never hurt other, love the ending
Hwoarang VS Bruce Irvin Live Action Version
the king of fighters references:
Joe from Muay Tay vs Kim from Taekwondo.
Finally someone who plays kof
Wow...his techniques are so perfect and spectacular 🤩 very quick and accurate. It's really satisfying to watch.
Not disparaging TKD but Muay Thai is more complete and powerful 🙏
Muay Thai has greater conditioned fighters too.
I agree in a respectful manner
When it comes to fighting dont feel the pain embrce it both martial art are great and teakwondo can be effective if we use the old ways of doing it and more hand blocks ❤
Cross training in both would be complimentary to your kicking abilities, many of the best fighters are crossed trained.
Nah dud thats a sick choregraphy the end got me laughin fr
It turned out to be a movie.
that was really fun choreography.
To all the people who thinks taekwondo is just for fancy kicks and not at all works in a street fight.
You have to understand it’s not about how effective the martial art is, is about how you use it.
No martial arts are more superior than others because it all depends on the person.
Additional notes: nowadays taekwondo is more focus on sport and points fighting while still keeping the contact-fight, obviously those sport categories would not work in a fight because it’s like saying “basketball won’t work in a fight”.
Stop being so ignorant about martial arts and actually open your fricking mind
such an underrated comment, some people on the comments section just can’t seem to understand it, probably because they’ve never seen it in action or just went with other people
Fr when I started taekwondo my dad said it was dance fighting until he saw me sparring at training sessions
@@artikel3794 lol
bro you are speaking faxxxxx
This is choreographed but nicely done by both skillful guys👍👍
Guy in white is Bruiser from Slug Street Scrappers. They make fight web shorts.
imagine you practice both
I learned it
Absolutely love it
As I do Taekwondo
I love how effective it can be in all areas
Taekwondo isn't effective in Real fight.
Clarify a real fight??
@mercyperera6519 one with a gun
That was fucking beautiful. Well done.
In my life I have done both these disciplines, this video is fucking exciting
Always loved this video and it's good to see it again. It's what got me into TKD!
It's more like "Real SFX hits" 😂
Both are sick, though. Imagine knowing both... 🔥🏆
devastating combination, being able to throw kicks wherever and as fast/strong as you want is great to be able to do
Speed vs power
speed is taekwoondo I suposue
@@Kermit02 yes it is
Taekwondo is actually very powerfull, it has the most powerfull kicks of martial arts
@@tomasbarr_ I actually know it’s very powerful
Tkd is for when you have a lot of room to work with, muy tai is when you dont
Jabs also work, knife hands aswell
why'd we all find this video now? 😭
man those kicks you can hear how fast they where
They both were pretty even. But in a real fight, it's pretty likely that a muay thai practitioner would against a TKD practitioner, because TKD fighters aren't trained to take hits like muay thai fighters are. TKD looks flashy and is quick, but muay thai is the hammer of Thor so to speak.
That depends on the person itself muay thai or whatever else are there it doesnt matter , what matters is the person him/herself
Man, Mica and Shane looked like kids back then!
In a real fight, the result all depends on who has a better training, regarding the martial art.
En una pelea real el resultado dependera de quien tiene un mejor entrenamiento, sin importar el arte marcial.
Muat thai is better. I trained in both. The concept of techniques is to usw the technique that is more accurate, damaging and less energy consuming. Muay thai achieves this very well. Taekwondo does not. But taekwondo does have some good techniques that are useful.
1:58 I love that moment hahahaha😂😂.
At 3:06 , both of them went Super Saiyan 😂
Muay thai: brutality short range
Taekwondo: spam kick long range
That's what people don't understand, in many games they try to say how in street fighter the martial artists are the fastest characters with good attack range while the fighters are the fastest Heavy ones lack speed and range but have the most powerful attacks
@@Joandavidargumedodeja de comparar, debe de del peleador y como maneje su disciplina, para mí el boxeo y jet kune do son los más rápidos y brutales, pero también como digo depende como lo domines, yo fui amateur y valgan verdades desarrolle una velocidad de la luz, pero me hubiese gustado aprender jet kune do, sería como un Mike TYSON y bruce lee en una persona 😂😂
cómo sabes que hablo en español
Muchachito(a) Cada quien tiene su gusto y no desprecies mi deporte, el taekwondo es mejor porqué pelea limpio.
El boxeo o mua thay usan trucos sucios como usar implantes de acero en las manos y las tapan con los guantes para que el rival no se de cuenta el taekwondo no usa nada de eso de hecho ninguna arte marcial excepto las de Tailandia
@@Joandavidargumedo porque el español y el inglés es básico en estás épocas
¿Anyone know something of this actors of Hollywood?
Even though it looks like a choreography, it still gives a great example/demonstration of how these martial arts fight
i just wanted to let you know that the combinations starting from 1:04 and 1:21 were big inspiration for most of the ways I fought in my taekwondo club and I am one of the best now and have won 2 tournaments. I was close to beginner when I first saw your video
Wow, that is art!
You all look up Slug Street Scrappers, its a fight movie web short. Guy in white is Bruiser.
Cool coreography, when the real fight starts?
That was a good fight but the ending was funny
That´s no Muay Thai. Maybe kickboxing. In Muay Thay you fight up close. And the low kick is used much more to unbalance the opponent
the weaker kid kicks were just less impactful because they were checked a little bit, also his body build calls for mid range combat more so than trying to clinch, especially from a cinematography stand point
Is the kickboxing smiliar to the muay thai ???
@@humamnazar248 Than Similar it is like the karate shotokan with the taekwondo. Or the brazilian jiujitsu with the russian sambo. Similar but different. You can see it searching on youtube.
@@jesusangelcardetduenas8736Every Fighter have a different style they are not robot to fight equal, Look at Anderson Silva and Shogun both are Thai Fighters but too different.
@@jesusangelcardetduenas8736Shogun are more a Stand and Fight Guy, Anderson Silva are a Master of Counter Attack and have a Amazing Footwork and use the distance to control his opponents.
ngl, seemed kinda staged/choreohraphed.
It is. They're just having fun while exhibiting the unique traits of each fighting style :)
No shit
Pov: fight with the "light spar" dude
Need more front snap kicks and front thrust kicks. Straight kicks are faster and less risky than excessive roundhouse kicks. However, you guys went at it for real and probaqblly harder than some sanctioned professional matches, so I'm still impressed.
The ending is absolutely fire!!!
That looked like something you'd see in a Bruce Lee film. Either damn good fighting, or damn good choreography
GRAN VIDEO. Una calidad que nada tiene que envidiar a los de Hollywood.
Gran puesta en escena por parte de los artistas marciales.
Podemos destacar los golpes de poder del arte tailandés; pero la pelea tuvo momentos importantes también para el arte coreano. Muchos creen que por el uso de articulaciones, agarres y proyecciones en muaytay demostró ser mejor, pero no fue así. En una pelea real el taekwondoyin pudiera haber aprovechado los momentos de desconcierto al conectar patadas a la cabeza, en ese momento su rival perdió peligrosamente la noción de espacio tiempo por varias décimas que hubieran sido suficientes para que le hubieran destruido o por lo menos tomar ventaja definitiva.
Este combate, aunque artificial, demostró que ambos estilos son muy buenos y no hay un claro vencedor.
El final, espectacular e inesperado... Felicidades.
Bro the taekwando player falled so many times while the muay thai one was just falled 2 times and also im a Taekwondo player but this does not like anger me.
It's for entertainment, look up Slug Street Scrappers.
Great show. ITF TKD I guess (kicks not speed optimized, comparatively a lot of hands used)?
Would be interesting video if both had WTF gear: would enable real full contact.
He’s wearing a kumkiwon uniform, which is WT
1:32 bro thinks he’s in street fighter💀
Sweep kick is an actual martial art technique
@@thejumper8496 I know am just saying that the sweep kick is like the one in street fighter
@@miguelalvacora1781 my bad bro
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more like a what if simulation. truth is? from a martial arts standpoint either fighter could have prevailed. what most people fail to realize is that it isn't the style but the individual thats important.
Something that literally can't be stressed enough...
I cross train both . I just like it when some TKD guys get cute and I look at them I want to revert to my Muay Thai and ramp it up.
I like both arts 🗿🍷
gentleman 🍷🗿
BRAVO! Now I'm considering combining taekwondo with my boxing - how effective would that be
seras una maquina de matar
One of the best combinations
Awesome show of skills on both guys. Loved it!
I saw this like 8 or 9 years ago. Am I dreaming or is this a reupload?
3:33 it says that the original production date is 2013
real or not whats the problem? both of them is amazing in he fight type that use...!
Hollywood-level technique! Holy shit, you guys could be in cinematic release movies!
why does everyone hates tkd so much?
Because it’s a trend it hate it
They think it's only about kicks that are useless and impractical. They're pretty versatile though and depending on the school you will also practice hand strikes and grappling moves.
I personally like any kind of martial arts that involves kicking.
Taekwondo is one of my favorites, if I'm being honest.
@@tjs-_goated7449im a black belt in taekwondo i swear its the coolest thing ever spinning and kicking… well yeah spinning kicking blocking
People Hate TKD because they think it’s just being flashy but when I trained in TKD they had me spare against five opponents often and they taught me how to strike, throw and joint locks so in conclusion people hate TDK because they don’t know TKD
Muay Thai you can predict the moves but in TKD you can’t