I did see people defend a cheater, though. That much, at least, wasn't exaggerated. I'm pretty sure it was on the video where he interviewed a cheater.
Not really too hard, turn supports into healbots, turn up dps aimbots and you primarily control the tank. I don't know how far you could get because bot survivability isn't good but yeah.
The spinbotter isn't seeing himself spin on the floor. It's Client Vs Server. On the Server side of things, anyone who's spectating or seeing the Cass, will see him just spin aggressively as hell. Like we saw with Jay3 spectating. On the Client side of things this is only things the guy who IS Spinbotting sees everything normally whilst still having his hitbox and movements still look weird too others.. Otherwise, if he was seeing himself spin then spinbots wouldn't be used, they'd just use regular trigger/aimbots. TL:DR: Server sided=you guys see him spinning, Client= He sees everything normally. (thank you to the guy in the comments who corrected my terminology) Please comment anything you'd want to add or if I messed stuff up, as this was pretty vague and rushed. Plenty of videos explaining how cheats work which blizzard might want to look into because Spinbots are usually the easiest ones to detect 💀
there are some cheats that are more expensive (spin bots too) which override almost everything, and the only way to see the spin is to watch a replay, because not even with kill cams you'd see the spins, a cassidy - mei were spin botting in my games and i didn't know they were cheating until i decided to watch a replay bc of a sus shot
@@Sac-chan Yeah, those are pretty hard to detect but the cheats I see on Overwatch and how aggressive some of them are really make me question, what's really going on behind the scenes.
the spin is only visible from the replay, unless the cheat is dog, i had a spinbotter before and didn't notice he was cheating until i saw the kill cam and he killed me in less than 1s with cassidy with a crazy flick, i decided to watch the replay and saw the spin, not even the kill cam showed the spins
you can't draw in capture point though. In any other mode i'd agree, but the other team doesnt deserve the win any more than the cheater team. Just get the game over with.
10:10, in CSGO you will most likely have a third person view on the model most of the times, but you can also use 1st person and you wont see any of the spinning action, even if you appear spinbotting for other players :p
Spinning cass was hilarious. I laughed at 3rd person view so hard :'DD Funnily enough, you can achieve the same spinning effect by putting the pen on your drawing tablet. I did this once accidentally and got so scared.
Okay, so - spinbotting is only visible to other players. The cheater can control their camera normally but for other players they are spinning. And yes, that is indeed for making people miss their head as other cheaters will find hard to calculate (read "hit) their head which is what they usually lock onto (essentially giving them an advantage over other cheaters as well as giving more survivability against normal players)
If you think about it from a time efficiency perspective, I imagine the bursts of inactivity were the person changing over to a different match where they've got another 5 accounts doing the same thing. If they're smart enough to run multiple accounts then for farming purposes they stack that as high as their processing capacity / account funding can manage
@bobo6069 just wait for Microsoft to actually take over. Just bc they acquired it doesn't mean they're yet in charge. It'll take a while for us to see that.
For the spin bot, the cheater gets a fixed 3rd person view without the spinning camera however take this with a grain of salt as this is the traditional csgo spin bot so it might not be exactly the same
I seen this once in OW1, on eichenwald, we were ready to defend point one and the entire team jumped off the map so we were confused. As we got closer to their spawn we noticed they all were moving in sync with eachother, that’s when we found out it was 1 guy. He even admitted he’s just trying to derank I was shocked
Spawn camping these Multi Box Throwers/Cheaters is actually the worst thing you can do. It just makes their job easier. What you should do instead is dragging out the match as long as you can.
I don't blame the hanzo for dying there. If I ever played a comp game against people doing this, I'd do whatever I can to slow down their derank. He was just standing there & why shouldn't he? Him shooting/dying/etc. won't change a thing. I would have never capped & made the game last until the server closed
I dont know if its the same as OW1 but back in OW1 bronze accounts were more expensive to buy than Top500. They were quite alot more too, the people selling them were making a killing from it. I suspect though nowadays especially with the bronze 5 bug in season 1 they dont cost as much now.
2:45 Hey idrk if anyone will see this, but ive noticed that sym's turrets in any replay feature (inculding the replay when u die to one) dont shoot towards u, i think they shoot to the map orgin point (0,0,0) but thats just my theory
The way spinbots work, or many hacks work is that they will overwrite the packet handler in the game, overwriting the players rotation before it's sent to the server. So the client itself is still able to control the rotation with his mouse cleanly without any spin as the rotation is applied as the packet leaves the game to the server. I hope this makes sense @Jay3 :)
i had a game like the first one where all five of the enemies would move one by one out of spawn, group up, then move up one by one toward point... i ended up getting potg by knocking them all off the map at spawn with dva boost bc i was so confused and and didn't know what to do
There's absolutely no way that spinning camera is what that man sees 😂 being able to perfectly time wasd to those fast spins would be like god tier level 10:26 he probably just has a normal screen but the in game character is spinning
12:30 it is nice that hideouts does play and watch streamers to ban people, however it's also only him, so whenever he goes in vacation or takes a break it gets really bad until he gets back
for context, a spinbot (what the cass in the second half was doing) it only makes your player model look like its spinning, as well as your hitboxes spin, on the cheaters end, it just looks normal, asside from having aimbot, the spinning is on the server side, not local
This is a problem on csgo too in any ranks and some people just get into them because it is usually a 5stack and a 4 stack leaving a person with a free win
All 5 characters moving at the same time and taking similar actions; this is called multiboxing. You see this all the time in MMOs. Its a real problem in WoW as you have entire hoards of bots all grouped up in a primo farming area and just sniping all the mobs in the area. In the game I play, FFXIV ARR, its less used for playing multiple toons in content and more used for playing music in major cities. Its very common to see 6 to 8 toons all together, wearing similar clothes and playing songs using the instruments the game provides for you. On the other hand, I've also seen it used in content. Had a Tank and Healer multiboxed in a dungeon I was running. They were surprisingly good.
Well actually, I’ve been playing rainbow six siege - they sorta ban in waves? AND THEY ANNOUNCE THE ACCOUNTS ON SCREEN. But basically they have an anti cheat system already in place from my understanding and then they ban A BUNCH of accounts on weekends like the list shows up in the top right corner and it goes for like a solid 2 minutes at a time on the weekends it’s crazyyyyy. So yeah I don’t think banning in “waves” is awful it’s just the current anti cheat automatic system isn’t working, and yeah I think for sure blizzard should add the same list system just in case a hacker is dumb and makes another account with the same name then we know they’re a known hacker. I’m sure one proud Canadian 😂 good job Ubisoft Montreal for making a good anti cheat system!
I played once against a widow that on her screen she was just shooting a wall, not even at our direction, but somehow she was killing everyone on my team....
these are the weirdest cheats i've seen in overwatch 2...
I remember something similar to the spinbotting in Minecraft, and the person spinbotting sees the game normally, but everyone else sees them spinning
This came from csgo they do it so they can get 5 Smurf accounts to sell
These bussienesses thrive because all the streamers make content with bronze players. 1 buff T500 vs 10 bronzes. Sounds familiar?
This is just a way to make several low rank accounts to sell at once
Actually had a game with a spinbotter and a normal aimbotter on my team. Free win, but felt bad after.
10:25 The "retired cheater" comment was actually in the Twitch chat
Jay3 putting the blame on us, ain't no way
Yeah I remember that! Had the same thought, Jay gaslighting us over here lmaooo
I did see people defend a cheater, though. That much, at least, wasn't exaggerated. I'm pretty sure it was on the video where he interviewed a cheater.
I love how the Sigma got 1 kill on the hanzo and was instantly on fire
You steal on fire if you kill them
@@AgentLando ahh I didn't realise that it would fully charge it. Thank you
I wanna see someone get good with a cheat like this 😂
Imagine being able to coordinate 5 heroes by yourself. Never have bad teammates again
wait.. this could solve dis coordination. bc you're coordinating w yourself
🤯🤯
Just make 4 clones of yourself EZ
Not really too hard, turn supports into healbots, turn up dps aimbots and you primarily control the tank. I don't know how far you could get because bot survivability isn't good but yeah.
unless of course they were the bad one, there having 5 bad team members :D
Wheres the cheat?ever heard of xbox criminal?the guy was just using 5 pcs
The spinbotter isn't seeing himself spin on the floor.
It's Client Vs Server.
On the Server side of things, anyone who's spectating or seeing the Cass, will see him just spin aggressively as hell. Like we saw with Jay3 spectating.
On the Client side of things this is only things the guy who IS Spinbotting sees everything normally whilst still having his hitbox and movements still look weird too others..
Otherwise, if he was seeing himself spin then spinbots wouldn't be used, they'd just use regular trigger/aimbots.
TL:DR: Server sided=you guys see him spinning, Client= He sees everything normally.
(thank you to the guy in the comments who corrected my terminology)
Please comment anything you'd want to add or if I messed stuff up, as this was pretty vague and rushed.
Plenty of videos explaining how cheats work which blizzard might want to look into because Spinbots are usually the easiest ones to detect 💀
there are some cheats that are more expensive (spin bots too) which override almost everything, and the only way to see the spin is to watch a replay, because not even with kill cams you'd see the spins, a cassidy - mei were spin botting in my games and i didn't know they were cheating until i decided to watch a replay bc of a sus shot
@@knyt0 Oh shoot you right, thank you 🙏
@@Sac-chan Yeah, those are pretty hard to detect but the cheats I see on Overwatch and how aggressive some of them are really make me question, what's really going on behind the scenes.
Yeah, the cheat changes the packets that are being sent to the server so they have different viewangles than he sees.
What is worse? the Cassidy spin aim bot or his team that saw all that and still keep helping him play the game.
the spin is only visible from the replay, unless the cheat is dog, i had a spinbotter before and didn't notice he was cheating until i saw the kill cam and he killed me in less than 1s with cassidy with a crazy flick, i decided to watch the replay and saw the spin, not even the kill cam showed the spins
@@knyt0 as i said, cheap ones, the one's I've seen are like, flicking their shots, and they move to the sides constantly
@@knyt0 then idk what i saw
you can't draw in capture point though. In any other mode i'd agree, but the other team doesnt deserve the win any more than the cheater team. Just get the game over with.
@@SecureBirch410 wait, you can't? i thought that if nobody contests the point and the timer runs out it ends in a draw
10:10, in CSGO you will most likely have a third person view on the model most of the times, but you can also use 1st person and you wont see any of the spinning action, even if you appear spinbotting for other players :p
In the first clip of controlling more than one person at a time, the Symmetra moves first and the rest follow, so that's the host account.
Spinning cass was hilarious. I laughed at 3rd person view so hard :'DD
Funnily enough, you can achieve the same spinning effect by putting the pen on your drawing tablet. I did this once accidentally and got so scared.
What’s sad is that someone got banned for spinning their mouse around on roadhog 💀
😂😂😂😂
i follow that guy, he is fucking insane with hog too
What ?
Ooh, now I want to try this
@@fart6268 newhognation?
Okay, so - spinbotting is only visible to other players. The cheater can control their camera normally but for other players they are spinning. And yes, that is indeed for making people miss their head as other cheaters will find hard to calculate (read "hit) their head which is what they usually lock onto (essentially giving them an advantage over other cheaters as well as giving more survivability against normal players)
And I thought the spinbotting Widow from Flats months ago was enough...this is terrible. Warning on the seizures because this is insanity.
honestly, if you can coordinate five heroes at the same time, i wouldn't even count it as cheating. props to you. you deserve every win
If you think about it from a time efficiency perspective, I imagine the bursts of inactivity were the person changing over to a different match where they've got another 5 accounts doing the same thing. If they're smart enough to run multiple accounts then for farming purposes they stack that as high as their processing capacity / account funding can manage
I'm pretty sure it was actually 5 quintuplet twins who were all perfectly synced with each other.
I wanna see a custom match that involves cheaters.
No. This would just give cheaters undeserved attention…
@@gotown1590 as streamers react to them and give them attention
@@gotown1590games dead, blizzards not gonna deal with them. May as well get good content out of them
@bobo6069 just wait for Microsoft to actually take over. Just bc they acquired it doesn't mean they're yet in charge. It'll take a while for us to see that.
I quit overwatch
They don't see the spinny spin they see it as any normal person would. All they see is it lock on to the targets
For the spin bot, the cheater gets a fixed 3rd person view without the spinning camera however take this with a grain of salt as this is the traditional csgo spin bot so it might not be exactly the same
In Overwatch its usually 1st person and it looks like silent aim.
@@ssarkos5148how does that look like silent aim, do you even know what silent aim is
These ones were actually wild this time. Never seen anything like this
I seen this once in OW1, on eichenwald, we were ready to defend point one and the entire team jumped off the map so we were confused. As we got closer to their spawn we noticed they all were moving in sync with eachother, that’s when we found out it was 1 guy. He even admitted he’s just trying to derank I was shocked
@@aidenmontgomery9205 honestly I’m not sure how he did it, was just shocked he was able to do it 😅 sorry
it would be cool watching a game between two guys controlling both all their respective team
That cassidy took spinbotting lessons from tf2. Like holy cow
Spawn camping these Multi Box Throwers/Cheaters is actually the worst thing you can do. It just makes their job easier.
What you should do instead is dragging out the match as long as you can.
2:16 the ram was looking around like Aint no way
he was so confused xD
The weird Thing is i have played With and against Goldsatyr and Azurebat
Ive had this happen in a Plat game twice, and a Diamond game once. It is absolutely bizarre to see in person.
Mad respect for both Teams to band together on a truce in the 2nd match.
I think whats crazy about the guy controlling his entire team is that they had to have a new phone number for EACH INDIVIDUAL ACCOUNT.
What if there is an imposter in the other team, helping him rank up?
I don't blame the hanzo for dying there. If I ever played a comp game against people doing this, I'd do whatever I can to slow down their derank. He was just standing there & why shouldn't he? Him shooting/dying/etc. won't change a thing.
I would have never capped & made the game last until the server closed
This is definitely the strangest hack yet
my guy said my team sucks ill do it myself
I caught a multiboxer testing his setup in vs AI, its where they all seem to be recently (because they think they're not going to get reported.)
Nah, thats just crazy, he controlls all of them but can't even hit with one of them
I dont know if its the same as OW1 but back in OW1 bronze accounts were more expensive to buy than Top500. They were quite alot more too, the people selling them were making a killing from it. I suspect though nowadays especially with the bronze 5 bug in season 1 they dont cost as much now.
I had this same thing happen to me in a comp game back in ow1. We ended up spawn holding them for 2 rounds of 2CP on VI.
2:45 Hey idrk if anyone will see this, but ive noticed that sym's turrets in any replay feature (inculding the replay when u die to one) dont shoot towards u, i think they shoot to the map orgin point (0,0,0) but thats just my theory
The way spinbots work, or many hacks work is that they will overwrite the packet handler in the game, overwriting the players rotation before it's sent to the server. So the client itself is still able to control the rotation with his mouse cleanly without any spin as the rotation is applied as the packet leaves the game to the server. I hope this makes sense @Jay3 :)
To be fair, it's probably one of the "nicer" cheaters. At least they aren't ruining 4 other people's games throwing.
i had a game like the first one where all five of the enemies would move one by one out of spawn, group up, then move up one by one toward point... i ended up getting potg by knocking them all off the map at spawn with dva boost bc i was so confused and and didn't know what to do
If only I could get games like this :(
A while back Flats had a video similar to this where he found a game where one person was controlling two players on each team lol
Watching that Cassidy player is legitimately giving me motion sickness.
with the spinbot he sees like hes playing normal but everyone sees him spinboting,also he did it on purpose bc everyone is looking at him
The new D&D game looks great.
Gotta gather your party before venturing forth.
I also have him added as a friend in overwatch 😂😂
Mans really tried to pull a No Game No Life move IRL lmao
Nah, this is a legit blindfold speedrun... Joking aside, I'd pull him away with Lifeweaver and let the other team cap.
That second clip is a nice trip down memory lane to team fortress 2. Lmao
I remember some RUclipsr playing a match of rainbow six siege all by himself. Controlling all members of the party and still managed to win
8:23 bro💀 why is his team helping him🫠
There's absolutely no way that spinning camera is what that man sees 😂 being able to perfectly time wasd to those fast spins would be like god tier level 10:26 he probably just has a normal screen but the in game character is spinning
7:43 he sees from TP, not FS, I know this because I also played with spinbot on CS GO.
12:30 it is nice that hideouts does play and watch streamers to ban people, however it's also only him, so whenever he goes in vacation or takes a break it gets really bad until he gets back
when you don't have friends to play with
7:05 TF2 Sniper be like:
Imagine being so unsatisfied in your personal life that you cheat in Overwatch that's wild
so that is where all the TF2 spinbotters went to
for context, a spinbot (what the cass in the second half was doing) it only makes your player model look like its spinning, as well as your hitboxes spin, on the cheaters end, it just looks normal, asside from having aimbot, the spinning is on the server side, not local
Y’all ever seen the kids next door?😂 if you know you know
I experienced once the same thing, back in Overwatch 1.
It was in Blizzard world, I remember it very clearly.
These hackers are like: JAY3 is reacting to hackers 😮 gotta go cheat now
for my exprience, in tf2 spin botting just made it so that whatever you were shooting, projectile or not, it would home in on a random enemy
the spin botter sees in 3rd person with a stable camera but can see himself spinning just like you see him in the demo in freecam
man thats crazy
Crazy? I was crazy once...
@@starswithgabs they locked me in a room...
When TF2 aimbotting meets OW2, you know there is going to be an anticheat update.
bros playing with da new metal top, fuel injected, bey-blade mouse
The cass was my brother best friend playing overwatch as a helicopter this video was 14 hours ago he got his computer 2 days ago 😂😂😂
12:27 yeah hideouts be working overtime
This is a problem on csgo too in any ranks and some people just get into them because it is usually a 5stack and a 4 stack leaving a person with a free win
All 5 characters moving at the same time and taking similar actions; this is called multiboxing. You see this all the time in MMOs. Its a real problem in WoW as you have entire hoards of bots all grouped up in a primo farming area and just sniping all the mobs in the area. In the game I play, FFXIV ARR, its less used for playing multiple toons in content and more used for playing music in major cities. Its very common to see 6 to 8 toons all together, wearing similar clothes and playing songs using the instruments the game provides for you. On the other hand, I've also seen it used in content. Had a Tank and Healer multiboxed in a dungeon I was running. They were surprisingly good.
i mean at least he wasnt deranking randoms on his team
A typical spinbotter will get a motorized chair that spins them in the opposite direction to compensate for the in-game view
Honestly de-ranking 5 accounts like that feels like a morally good thing to do. You make money, and five players get a free boost, everyone wins
Well actually, I’ve been playing rainbow six siege - they sorta ban in waves? AND THEY ANNOUNCE THE ACCOUNTS ON SCREEN. But basically they have an anti cheat system already in place from my understanding and then they ban A BUNCH of accounts on weekends like the list shows up in the top right corner and it goes for like a solid 2 minutes at a time on the weekends it’s crazyyyyy. So yeah I don’t think banning in “waves” is awful it’s just the current anti cheat automatic system isn’t working, and yeah I think for sure blizzard should add the same list system just in case a hacker is dumb and makes another account with the same name then we know they’re a known hacker. I’m sure one proud Canadian 😂 good job Ubisoft Montreal for making a good anti cheat system!
I know there was a Siege player that tried to play ranked with a team fully controlled by him and I found that funny at shit
I feel like I've seen that video, was it basically homeless or something like that
Nah fr tho selling bronze accounts could make you a bag
Bro I had a seizure looking at the spin bot guy 💀💀
Bro seeing a spinbot again gave me flashbacks from tf2 I'm scared 😭
Yo dat spin botting cheater was actually hurting my eyes😭
What in…I’ve seen it once, but…what…
the spin bot cant be seeing the spins, he stops whenever the genji deflects and he stopped to wait for the dva to get out of mech...
I was honestly expecting them to move as a unit while firing at where the Symmetra's cursor is pointing at
thats a new level of forever alone
Hey Cassidy! You spin my head right round, right round
people do this in cs. either 5 afks to derank or 4 and 1 rager to boost. Or a lot of people were doing it to get prestige badges
Wowzers! What did I just witness? Great find Jay3!
I saw a bot once in WoW. A group of 4 or 5 were moving in a perfect line behind the lead. Never seen anything like it. I reported them on the spot.
I've encountered this twice before. Once at the end of OW1 and once recently in a Gold 4 match.
I don’t endorse the cheater but this looks funny asf. “Spins around like a helicopter” Lmaooo
1 buffed cheater vs 5 bronze
7:13 when you spin bot you get a clear view like everyone only your player model spins
They're moving in herds, they do move in herds.
I was thinking that i saw everything in hack in game but THIS is really another lvl 😂
The dude is clearly able to switch which character he controls
I played once against a widow that on her screen she was just shooting a wall, not even at our direction, but somehow she was killing everyone on my team....
The Spinning player is Just using The Drunken Fist techniek
Don't worry he wasnt hacking. His controller just had stick drift👍👍👍
The way sym dies in the first fight of the first round 😂😂😂😂
The multibox does look almost like AI training lmao