That little plane is so cool. And as always skills at the sticks and lots of great filming. Thank you for your video keep flying you guys. Just having fun RC'n with friends and family
Hello Brian! The trainstar mini is one of the rc palnes for beginners, You recommended to me. Today I started my maiden flights. What shall I say? Absolutely awsome!!! I´m a really bloody beginner and this kind of mini parkflyer is the right gadget. Only the battery has been the limit today! Now it´s becoming dark outside ;-). I also could not resist to purchase the A800 from XK and this to me is a nightmare :-( I don´t know, what I´m doing wrong. Under the same circumstances,(a little windy), always out of control. For the Volantex absolutely no problem! This one finally landed itself when the battery died. Very great beginners airplane. Loads of fun for the bucks! Regards
The A800 leaves a LOT to be desired. I wouldn't recommend it as a second plane. Move up to these, when your budget allows, and you will be amazed the difference!!! Beginner Planes, short list Habu STS 70mm RTF - bit.ly/3fRaLj7 - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc5fYbIobNAtMUz2EoT7FGLl Apprentice 1.5m RTF bit.ly/2CfTCBY - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc4LA2ldEUZQMVWkJpCslxRc Carbon Cub S2 1.3m RTF bit.ly/32UawRn - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc4Y9gQ5S22B_3SXmtqylcmM Apprentice Mini RTF bit.ly/2B3VsoR - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc43Qw4KNOOfzt14n6ZBo3LS Sport Cub S UMX RTF bit.ly/2OqnYUK - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc5gY8qX_x8kAJq3glGMXjDy Aeroscout bit.ly/3ntOcFx - (I haven't actually reviewed this one YET...but it's supposed to be REALLY GOOD)
Cool little plane Brian. And yes Megan, we all want you to fly too! Brian is obviously a very skilled pilot, but it would be awesome to see how some of these planes handle being flown by a novice pilot(like me). Don't worry, EVERYONE crashes sometime! Great videoing as usual!
All these great inexpensive planes you have brought to us in some awesome videos (thank you both pilot and camera crew) which one do you feel is best for a true beginner to start out with and not totally destroy on first flight
This is a GREAT choice, or the Sport Cub 500, another good choice. The F-22 is cool, but way harder to fly. The P-51 again, very cool, but harder to fly...NONE are HARD to fly, just these are easier. All the 6 Axis Gyro planes really fly easy, but if you couple this easy flying with a proper radio transmitter, I can only imagine how amazing you could control and fly them! Kinda like the S720 - flew really poorly with the stock radio, but add the $9.99 SBus Micro Rx, and all of a sudden with the Jumper - It's a superstar!!! I think for a beginner, these planes are a GREAT starting point. If you try to learn on a simulator, you'll have a head start on getting your thumbs and muscle memory down, but flying in the REAL world, is WAY different. Even the best simulator makes flying too "clean"...not sure if that makes sense to you?
Great job as always!! Similar to quads yes but use and flight characteristics produced by the sticks differ quite a bit. With roll having the most common reaction of the two. I race FPV quads where left is always left and right is always right. No line of sight reversal. I raced trucks too so i have some of that. Being said, a lot less rudder and more elevator for planes on turns compared to quads. Wind affects a 75-200gm winged object tremendously different. Have to learn to fly with its negative affects to your advantage. A 400-500 gram race quad just powers through. You might have to lean a little into the wind but 4 4s 26000kv motors barely blink. we have raced in gusts to 30mph.. I know because i have a weather station with a linked anemometer!..with a phone app... lol ... maidened the Timber today..8 batteries half in ASX3 Everything i just mentioned i learned today..LOL
You like slow, that’s the reason I love all of my Timbers. Getting to old and don’t have to think as fast anymore !! LOL Oh yea my wife got me the Carbon Z Cessna for Christmas. I about CRAPED when I seen how big it is. I knew your SS was big but to see it for myself WOW.
I agree with Bruce! The Sport Cub S UMX is great, BUT it's pretty expensive too ;) You can get the Sport Cub 500 for a lot less, if you want it to "survive" a little longer - Volantex Sport Cub 500 - amzn.to/36z22Or / usa.banggood.com/custlink/vDDGQJlpQK
I will reply directly to you with the same, since I want to make sure you get the notification.... I agree with Bruce! The Sport Cub S UMX is great, BUT it's pretty expensive too ;) You can get the Sport Cub 500 for a lot less, if you want it to "survive" a little longer - Volantex Sport Cub 500 - amzn.to/36z22Or / usa.banggood.com/custlink/vDDGQJlpQK ...sorry for the slow reply, we've been crazy busy in production mode!!!
Brian Phillips $46.00 shipping puts me off on this plane ! Love your airplane videos and your wife must be a saint, standing out in the cold while being sick !
Do you think this or the Volantex little cub is better for small field flying? We have some land like you but way more trees. Do you think anyway to permanently "droop" ailerons on the cub to make flaperons? Figure since no way to program that might be able to shorten the control rods on both sides to give a little more camber for slow flight. Thanks Love the videos and the new home!
I believe the Volantex Sport Cub 500 would be a better choice, but they're both very excellent planes! With the Mini Trinastar, you could cut in fixed flaps for sure! With the Sport Cub 500, you could try that for "flapperons" effect, but the 6 axis gyro will probably fight you a little bit in correcting the elevator...so just be prepared for a small battle in that regard.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Good point on the gyro. I am waiting for somebody on youtube to come up with a fixed leading edge slat type of mod on the Sport Cub :)
I did it, but was only marginally successful...but I really only did a simple "droop"...not like on the Timber UMX, for example, with leading edge slat with an airfoil and proper AOA... I still think it would be a 5 minute job to chop the flaps on this beauty...then just glue a triangular wedge to set the angle. It would probably pop off when you crashed, but it would be so slow!!! I've almost got myself fired up to do it today ;)
Hi Brian, I want to ask you which plane would you recommend better, the Volantex Sport Cub 500 or the Volantex -Mini Trainstar? Also want to know if all these plane use the same propeller as the Volantex mini p51? Regards
Is this a good "first" plane for an 8 year old.? If not, what would you recommend.? P.S. your "camera crew" does an amazing job. Keep up the good work you two
I think this plane would be good, but there will still be a fair amount of frustration. Most 8 years olds have a hard time with commitment, since they're used to tablets and video games, the instant gratification generation (I'm sure you understand).....BUT, that being said, if there's interest, this plane would be very good choice. The Volantex Sport Cub 500 actually tends to be fairly easy to control too. Given it's 4 channels there will be less to "re-learn" if and when the 8 year old is ready for the "next step". I personally hated not having ailerons when I was learning to fly. I FAR preferred 4 channel control, even when I was learning to fly...but that was a bit subjective, and I was a 30+ Year old....not 8. Hope this helps. I'll try to answer more questions as they come in, if I can help. Good luck!
I did download an rc simulation game,(absolute rc), on his phone and he's been surprisingly good at it.. It sounds like its worth the investment. My other thought as an option was the hobby zone sport cub s2.. Thanks for getting back to me. Take care Brian.
Winter is coming, Do you ever build planes? I was thinking of gutting one of these planes (probably the 4 channel version) and adding it to a Guillows balsa model. I watched you fly the P51 model your grandfather made and I couldn't have flown it very long without a terrible accident, but adding a stability control system like this would give me the confidence to crash it :)
You'd want the Sport Cub 500, the four channel one, but keep in mind, they only use one servo for the ailerons. You might want to just get a second "spare" servo, and then use or make a "Y" Cable...then you'll be golden. This plane is also a bit less power, I think different gear ratio in the gearbox. Thanks for the comment :)
Hi my friend great second flight with this excellent little plane, do you think it would bind to a jumper t8sg or any multiprotocol tx or would it be a waste of time, keep up the great work, you have a fantastic and humorous channel, also a brilliant camera crew (your good lady) best regards from Alan in the uk 🤗🤗
Nice trainner...I see has space for a servo ailerons or flaps..description mentioned 1.3rams servo. Does the manual mentions any part number for this 1.3grams servos? another question..what are the wheel sizes? Thanks
Sorry Alex, I have no idea. Sometimes these PCB's look like they'd support another control surface, and then you get let down ;( Please pull the wire from another control surface and plug it in FIRST, before you get to ordering any servos ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC , just that i have not found a 1.3 grams servo ever , usually they are label 1.7 grams but they are 1.9gram. I just wanted to have a part number to i can trace it and buy some for a project. Thanks again .!!
The camera crew having to try flying one of those things, has become sort of an "insider thing" for binge watchers of your channel :D I really want to see her fly - or did I miss it in one of the videos I haven't seen yet? Greetings from Austria -Nico
It was calm, for one thing. The other was that I moved the Rudder linkage to the INSIDE most hole. This increased the throw on the Rudder, thus more control authority. The rod to the rudder did have to be adjusted a little bit to get the rudder to be centered with neutral controls. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Во-первых, было спокойно. Другой заключался в том, что я переместил связь с рулем к самой внутренней дыре. Это увеличило бросок на руле, таким образом, больше контроля власти. Стержень к рулю нужно было немного отрегулировать, чтобы руль был центрирован с помощью нейтральных органов управления.
That little plane is so cool. And as always skills at the sticks and lots of great filming. Thank you for your video keep flying you guys. Just having fun RC'n with friends and family
You're welcome! Thanks for coming back over and over again ;) We really appreciate you guys!
Hello Brian! The trainstar mini is one of the rc palnes for beginners, You recommended to me. Today I started my maiden flights. What shall I say? Absolutely awsome!!! I´m a really bloody beginner and this kind of mini parkflyer is the right gadget. Only the battery has been the limit today! Now it´s becoming dark outside ;-). I also could not resist to purchase the A800 from XK and this to me is a nightmare :-( I don´t know, what I´m doing wrong. Under the same circumstances,(a little windy), always out of control. For the Volantex absolutely no problem! This one finally landed itself when the battery died. Very great beginners airplane. Loads of fun for the bucks! Regards
The A800 leaves a LOT to be desired. I wouldn't recommend it as a second plane. Move up to these, when your budget allows, and you will be amazed the difference!!!
Beginner Planes, short list
Habu STS 70mm RTF - bit.ly/3fRaLj7 - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc5fYbIobNAtMUz2EoT7FGLl
Apprentice 1.5m RTF bit.ly/2CfTCBY - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc4LA2ldEUZQMVWkJpCslxRc
Carbon Cub S2 1.3m RTF bit.ly/32UawRn - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc4Y9gQ5S22B_3SXmtqylcmM
Apprentice Mini RTF bit.ly/2B3VsoR - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc43Qw4KNOOfzt14n6ZBo3LS
Sport Cub S UMX RTF bit.ly/2OqnYUK - ruclips.net/p/PLXTH0DstRDc5gY8qX_x8kAJq3glGMXjDy
Aeroscout bit.ly/3ntOcFx - (I haven't actually reviewed this one YET...but it's supposed to be REALLY GOOD)
Very good rc plane videos. Well executed Mr. Phillips. #1
Thanks Juan!!!
Very cool and under 50 bucks. Thank you guys.
for sure! If it were expensive, I'd still think it flew well, but would expect more in the look department :)
Cool little plane Brian. And yes Megan, we all want you to fly too! Brian is obviously a very skilled pilot, but it would be awesome to see how some of these planes handle being flown by a novice pilot(like me). Don't worry, EVERYONE crashes sometime! Great videoing as usual!
She was not happy about my invitation ;) LOL
@@BrianPhillipsRC you should give her a few private lessons mate!
I will try... ;)
Just love your runway. It was amazing on last video and plane hovered in the wind. Hope someday to be as good a pilot as you.
I've been flying for about 5 years now. You can do it too! Just takes time and lots of practice :)
I have that plane nice for the park.
Great video as always.
Thanks Neil! I agree, great little plane!
YES! Camara Crew fly it....
Ah common Megan...fly it!
You go girl!!!
She was not having any of it today - LOL ;) Can't say I didn't try!!!
Love the humor at the end. Made me laugh also.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
All these great inexpensive planes you have brought to us in some awesome videos (thank you both pilot and camera crew) which one do you feel is best for a true beginner to start out with and not totally destroy on first flight
This is a GREAT choice, or the Sport Cub 500, another good choice. The F-22 is cool, but way harder to fly. The P-51 again, very cool, but harder to fly...NONE are HARD to fly, just these are easier. All the 6 Axis Gyro planes really fly easy, but if you couple this easy flying with a proper radio transmitter, I can only imagine how amazing you could control and fly them! Kinda like the S720 - flew really poorly with the stock radio, but add the $9.99 SBus Micro Rx, and all of a sudden with the Jumper - It's a superstar!!! I think for a beginner, these planes are a GREAT starting point. If you try to learn on a simulator, you'll have a head start on getting your thumbs and muscle memory down, but flying in the REAL world, is WAY different. Even the best simulator makes flying too "clean"...not sure if that makes sense to you?
Great job as always!!
Similar to quads yes but use and flight characteristics produced by the sticks differ quite a bit.
With roll having the most common reaction of the two. I race FPV quads where left is always left and right is always right. No line of sight reversal. I raced trucks too so i have some of that. Being said, a lot less rudder and more elevator for planes on turns compared to quads. Wind affects a 75-200gm winged object tremendously different. Have to learn to fly with its negative affects to your advantage. A 400-500 gram race quad just powers through.
You might have to lean a little into the wind but 4 4s 26000kv motors barely blink.
we have raced in gusts to 30mph.. I know because i have a weather station with a linked anemometer!..with a phone app... lol ... maidened the Timber today..8 batteries half in ASX3
Everything i just mentioned i learned today..LOL
Very nice kurt! Glad you've got the weather station - LOL!!!
Love it, just got the SonikRC Ranger 600 pusher glider with 6 axis gyro, great little plane for small money 👌☘️
Sweet!
You like slow, that’s the reason I love all of my Timbers. Getting to old and don’t have to think as fast anymore !! LOL Oh yea my wife got me the Carbon Z Cessna for Christmas. I about CRAPED when I seen how big it is. I knew your SS was big but to see it for myself WOW.
@john doe The Horizon Hobby Sport Cub S is a good one .
For sure! They're HUGE! You will LOVE the way it flies!!!
I agree with Bruce! The Sport Cub S UMX is great, BUT it's pretty expensive too ;) You can get the Sport Cub 500 for a lot less, if you want it to "survive" a little longer - Volantex Sport Cub 500 - amzn.to/36z22Or / usa.banggood.com/custlink/vDDGQJlpQK
I will reply directly to you with the same, since I want to make sure you get the notification....
I agree with Bruce! The Sport Cub S UMX is great, BUT it's pretty expensive too ;) You can get the Sport Cub 500 for a lot less, if you want it to "survive" a little longer - Volantex Sport Cub 500 - amzn.to/36z22Or / usa.banggood.com/custlink/vDDGQJlpQK
...sorry for the slow reply, we've been crazy busy in production mode!!!
Brian Phillips $46.00 shipping puts me off on this plane ! Love your airplane videos and your wife must be a saint, standing out in the cold while being sick !
Incredibull... Thanks Y'alls
You're welcome, John - More tomorrow! See you then ;)
Nice video man, keep up the good work!
Thanks guys!
Do you think this or the Volantex little cub is better for small field flying? We have some land like you but way more trees. Do you think anyway to permanently "droop" ailerons on the cub to make flaperons? Figure since no way to program that might be able to shorten the control rods on both sides to give a little more camber for slow flight. Thanks Love the videos and the new home!
I believe the Volantex Sport Cub 500 would be a better choice, but they're both very excellent planes! With the Mini Trinastar, you could cut in fixed flaps for sure! With the Sport Cub 500, you could try that for "flapperons" effect, but the 6 axis gyro will probably fight you a little bit in correcting the elevator...so just be prepared for a small battle in that regard.
@@BrianPhillipsRC Good point on the gyro. I am waiting for somebody on youtube to come up with a fixed leading edge slat type of mod on the Sport Cub :)
I did it, but was only marginally successful...but I really only did a simple "droop"...not like on the Timber UMX, for example, with leading edge slat with an airfoil and proper AOA...
I still think it would be a 5 minute job to chop the flaps on this beauty...then just glue a triangular wedge to set the angle. It would probably pop off when you crashed, but it would be so slow!!! I've almost got myself fired up to do it today ;)
Hi Brian, I want to ask you which plane would you recommend better, the Volantex Sport Cub 500 or the Volantex -Mini Trainstar? Also want to know if all these plane use the same propeller as the Volantex mini p51? Regards
I'd say the Volantex Sport Cub 500. The props on the P-51 and Sport Cub 500 may be the same...they have the same prop saver system, for sure...
Is this a good "first" plane for an 8 year old.? If not, what would you recommend.? P.S. your "camera crew" does an amazing job. Keep up the good work you two
I think this plane would be good, but there will still be a fair amount of frustration. Most 8 years olds have a hard time with commitment, since they're used to tablets and video games, the instant gratification generation (I'm sure you understand).....BUT, that being said, if there's interest, this plane would be very good choice. The Volantex Sport Cub 500 actually tends to be fairly easy to control too. Given it's 4 channels there will be less to "re-learn" if and when the 8 year old is ready for the "next step". I personally hated not having ailerons when I was learning to fly. I FAR preferred 4 channel control, even when I was learning to fly...but that was a bit subjective, and I was a 30+ Year old....not 8.
Hope this helps. I'll try to answer more questions as they come in, if I can help. Good luck!
I did download an rc simulation game,(absolute rc), on his phone and he's been surprisingly good at it.. It sounds like its worth the investment. My other thought as an option was the hobby zone sport cub s2.. Thanks for getting back to me. Take care Brian.
Winter is coming, Do you ever build planes? I was thinking of gutting one of these planes (probably the 4 channel version) and adding it to a Guillows balsa model. I watched you fly the P51 model your grandfather made and I couldn't have flown it very long without a terrible accident, but adding a stability control system like this would give me the confidence to crash it :)
You'd want the Sport Cub 500, the four channel one, but keep in mind, they only use one servo for the ailerons. You might want to just get a second "spare" servo, and then use or make a "Y" Cable...then you'll be golden. This plane is also a bit less power, I think different gear ratio in the gearbox.
Thanks for the comment :)
@@BrianPhillipsRC I bought a umx Timber that is ragged out but all the electronics work
Hi my friend great second flight with this excellent little plane, do you think it would bind to a jumper t8sg or any multiprotocol tx or would it be a waste of time, keep up the great work, you have a fantastic and humorous channel, also a brilliant camera crew (your good lady) best regards from Alan in the uk 🤗🤗
Thanks Alan! As for the Jumper...MAYBE, but I don't know what protocol. If I hear about it, I'll share what I find out.
Nice trainner...I see has space for a servo ailerons or flaps..description mentioned 1.3rams servo. Does the manual mentions any part number for this 1.3grams servos? another question..what are the wheel sizes? Thanks
Sorry Alex, I have no idea. Sometimes these PCB's look like they'd support another control surface, and then you get let down ;( Please pull the wire from another control surface and plug it in FIRST, before you get to ordering any servos ;)
@@BrianPhillipsRC , just that i have not found a 1.3 grams servo ever , usually they are label 1.7 grams but they are 1.9gram. I just wanted to have a part number to i can trace it and buy some for a project. Thanks again .!!
Brian. That’s almost small enough to fly in your house. lol. Amazing how long it flys on such a small battery. 👍😊
nope, tried that already....just good for wall-smacking ;) (Seriously...we DID try it on the maiden from Yesterday)
Hello Brian😁😁😁😁🍻🍻🍻🍻
Hi there again, Master!!!
What is the size of the propeller?
I'm sorry not sure.
That plane definitely flys better when you fly in no wind
I agree, but the windy flight was FUN too!
when landing use more up elevator and some rudder to help level it out even with the gyro
These gear are so long and springy, they just don't like to roll....if they worked well, this plane would be totally awesome...and it's still GREAT!
The camera crew having to try flying one of those things, has become sort of an "insider thing" for binge watchers of your channel :D I really want to see her fly - or did I miss it in one of the videos I haven't seen yet? Greetings from Austria -Nico
I know, and want to get her to do it too, but I have to take it slow...don't want to make her mad!
HI
HI!
just a tiny drop of WD-40 SILICON ON AXLES WILL HELP WITH THE GEAR will help with corrosion and movement
for sure :)
I lost my props!!!!!!!!!!!!!😭😭😭😭
No!!!!!
No way anthor plane video!!!
More coming tomorrow at 10AM!!! (And two fresh, garbage bags in my office....just showed up TODAY ;)
Что ты сделал самолет лучше летать стал.
It was calm, for one thing. The other was that I moved the Rudder linkage to the INSIDE most hole. This increased the throw on the Rudder, thus more control authority. The rod to the rudder did have to be adjusted a little bit to get the rudder to be centered with neutral controls.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Во-первых, было спокойно. Другой заключался в том, что я переместил связь с рулем к самой внутренней дыре. Это увеличило бросок на руле, таким образом, больше контроля власти. Стержень к рулю нужно было немного отрегулировать, чтобы руль был центрирован с помощью нейтральных органов управления.
@@BrianPhillipsRC ok!