Classical Composer Reacts to Mute (Native Construct) | The Daily Doug (Episode 79)
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In this episode of #TheDailyDoug, I'm reacting to Mute by Native Construct, as requested by one of my RUclips commenters named Shane. I was blown away by their virtuosic playing but underwhelmed by the composition...still a great time, and I was pleased to hear my first song by this band.
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If you wanna explain Native Construct's sound to rock/metal fans who haven't heard of the band you can say it's like a mixture of Dream Theater, Between The Buried And Me, Queen and Broadway musicals. I love them. The vocalist (Robert Edens), short haired guitarist (Myles Yang) and the bassist (Max Harchik), are the founders of the band and they all went to Berklee. The guitarist actually programmed all the drums for the album and only later for touring they found a drummer to actually play the songs live, etc. I get the feeling of being overwhelmed and like it's "too much" or "too many flavors", but at least for me it was an acquired taste (thanks Dream Theater for that). While I was delving into Dream Theater's discography I learned to accept that some music just require repeated listens before you can really "get it" and enjoy it. I remember listening to this song for the first time, I was overwhelmed as well, it does feel like it's too much, but after you listen to it enough times to memorize all the passages and changes, the weirdness vanishes (at least for me it does) and I can enjoy very much all the different flavors, perhaps even partly *because* of how diverse it can be in such a short period of time, it's just cool, cause it's just all stuff I like, the prog, the broadway-like vocal passages, the heavier stuff, everything, so it's just super fun to listen to. Sadly the band wasn't making a whole lot of money by simply being a band and they all started doind different stuff and eventually ended the group. The only album they released is a masterpiece though. It's a very crazy conceptual album about an individual who is a mute, and is driven by feelings of isolation and resentment to create an entire world for himself (Quiet World) and becomes a rather nasty tyrant (Sinister Silence) to that magical world, which in turn triggers a rebellion from people wanting freedom, and music, etc. It's all very loose and very weird, but the story is there, and the music is amazing through and through.
What this guy said 😬☝️ lol
it's TDH and BTBAM, there
i did not knew it was programmed drums, i mean, in the end of Chromatic Aberration the last blast beat is BRUTAL but i honestly thought it was a real drummer. Good to know tho.
Thank you so much, Doug! I've really been enjoying your videos and I'm so thankful for the opportunity to pick a song! Keep up the great content! Thanks again!
Great suggestion. This whole album is fantastic, one of the best to come out that year.
I do have to respectfully disagree with you on your comment that none of their ideas ever got grounded or had motifs developed. If u listen to the piece a bunch of times you'll notice there are several motifs that form the underlying melodic themes of the entire song. For starters, take the 4 bar theme introduced in measures 5-8 at the beginning. They play around with melodic, stylistic, rhythmic, and genre variations on this theme throughout the whole song. At times its blatantly recognizable such as when the vocal melody picks it up at the beginning of the "jazzy" section (and the not the only time the vocals used this theme), but other times u have to really listen carefully to how a certain instrument will take a snippet of it and place it within a different phrase. Because the stylistic choices can be very chaotic it can be overwhelming if u aren't familiar with the melodies, but once get the song stuck in your head or becomes much clearer how they are developing the piece and structuring it based on motif and variation rather than on more traditional pop verse chorus formats. These aren't necessarily things u would necessarily pick up on a first listen because theres so much going on, but I am sure you'll hear what I mean on repeat listens.
Yeah, I agree. There’s been few times where I’ve listened to something and at the end of it wasn’t sure how to feel about it but this song was definitely one of those times. But the more I listened to it the more I appreciated it. The whole album is really an accomplishment and it’s to bad they broke up.
I'll be honest, huge fan of prog metal, stuff like Haken and BTBAM, so I should love this. But I've listened to this album and this song dozens of times and I still come away from it having the same thoughts that Doug expressed here. I totally get what you're saying about certain themes and motifs that do come up throughout the track, but beyond that there are certain sections of the tune where the compositional structure suddenly goes on tangent after tangent at a rapid pace that doesn't allow rhythmic or melodic ideas to stick at all. I find a lot of things to like in their music, but it's a complaint I have with them that I don't have with a lot of bands they're most similar to.
@@sleepscience_ you have to factor in the story theyre trying to tell as well. no song is its own thing, really. I would compare it with Ayreon's The Theory of Everything where you kinda have to look at the album as one flowing whole piece just broken up in acts, closer to an opera
Whoever you listen to for these, they have very similar musical taste as me.
The internet lol
They didn't have a keyboardist. They actually played the backing track live on a laptop the few times I saw them live. I feel the album works better as a whole than listening to a single song (it's a concept album, the lyrics are actually pretty great through ought), but I understand your feelings on it. They wrote this while studying at the college so your assessment of a stew seems pretty spot on.
Unfortunately they broke up after that one album so we never really got to see a more focused and band oriented album (I believe the album was entirely written by the guitarist)
Wow im surprised you picked Native Construct over some of those famous bands, I love this band so much too bad they called it quits.
they came, dropped the hardest album EVER, then disappeared... love it!
Would love to hear your thoughts on Ne Obliviscaris. Especially their song 'And Plague Flowers the Kaleidoscope'. It is being studied at the Sydney Conservatorium of Music for its composition. I'd love to see you analyse it from a Classical perspective.
Such a pity this album was only a one off - but WHAT A ONE OFF!😍
Thanks for your thoughts Doug! You taught me how to count that section that alternates between 7/8 and 4/4.
This track is off a concept album, so it's out of context. I've listened through this album countless times! Interesting concept, presented with a really nice blend of styles.
P.S. Doug, please listen to Between the Buried and Me. They are the best band!
It's the first song on the album, but yeah if you understand the concept of the album, then you notice the weird and bipolar music fits the character it represents.
Glad you made Native Construct, they are such a great band ! Their compositions are really unique. Can't wait to see more reactions from you about others song of them ;)
"Come hell or high water" is one of my favorite songs of all time.
That's my favorite one
Between the buried and me- “extremophile elite”
Aha! One of their big influences is a band I’ve been recommending on some of your videos, Between the Buried and Me! After seeing this reaction not sure if it’ll be your thing but I’d still like to hear your reaction/analysis of Extremeophile Elite live in the studio
YES!
It’s a concept album. The opening theme is echoed multiple times in the song regardless of the style they go in, and it is again heard many times throughout the album, similar to the musical theme in Pink Floyd’s the wall. You hear that tune repeatedly through the entire album. Same with the main theme in mute here. It’s a hard song to take in out of context. I always want to recommend it, but it’s a monster of an album to digest and took me dozens of listens to “get it” as it were. But how do you recommend someone devote themselves to a concept album that is difficult to take in. You just kind of have to be intrigued enough to want to. It’s one of my top 10 favorite progressive metal albums ever released. Shame they were a one and done. I keep hoping one day they’ll surprise all of us prog nerds with a follow up. But they’ve all gone separate ways doing different things now
intriguing piece of music... Thanks Doug and Shane!
You are teaching people song writing on a higher level.
Collage coarse in songwriting.
Way cool Sir..
i hear so many bands i love, mixed into the equivilant of a mushroom-trip... all perfectly executed. a gem of an album
I have never commented- but I cannot keep that up anymore.
Kudos Doug for making the single best string of reaction videos for most of my music heroes. Great job and keep them coming!
What you didn't like about this is why I do like it, haha. To each, their own.
Please do either Ne Obliviscaris - And plague flowers the kaleidoscope, or Wilderun - Far from where dreams unfurl
I'd love to hear your thoughts on Ne Obliviscaris's "Eyrie"!
Also more Opeth!
Their track Burden or Hessian Peel would be great!
Second those!!!
I’m sure you’ll see that this is a concept album. This is a great opener. It sets the stage for the rest of the story/musical ideas. There are snippets of the opening melody that appear in different ways throughout the album.
Your comments remind me of the saying “discipline grants freedom”. In many ways, they’ve been disciplined to learn their instruments, styles, etc. which has given them freedom in their musicality. Maybe too much freedom in this sense has led to a smorgasbord of ideas. It also reminds me of one of my favorite bands, The Contortionist- in the early days a Prog technical death metal. Their approach has been to explore “pop” constraints. Their reasoning is that without limits, it’s easy to become derailed. Limits actually allow for a different kind of creativity.
Native Construct are influenced (in this chaotic style) by a band called Between the Buried and me, one of the greatest prog metal groups out there. VERY ECLECTIC and genre shifts within their music...most jarring but somehow they always make it work. Lots of interesting musical ideas in their music.
Thanks for checking them out!
Peace. Chris
Infinity Of The Spheres. Great song, great album. Beautiful melodies. Guitar. Mellow. It's a keeper.
This channel is great. I highly recommend Alter Bridge and their live version of "Words Darker Than Their Wings" with the Parallax Orchestra at the Royal Albert Hall.
Awesome! I literally just commented the other day on your The Brain Dance reaction about this band. Didn't like them at first. Then was stuck on exclusively this album for a few months lol
Seeing you take a look at lesser known bands, why not go for anathema - internal landscapes. It's a pretty interesting piece
Anathema - A Dying Wish
This is a concept album so you really will not understand that piece without the context. Was actually a bad recomendation listen to this single song.
PS: It's literally the story of the psychology of a mute guy!
Tigran hamasyan next plz. Samsara, what the waves brought, new maps, the grid, out of the grid. Oh man, so many songs for you to listen to.
New follower, I just found this tonight. I have this album and I love it! Was fully stoked to watch this. I dig it and what you're doin. I'd love to see your review of Mr Bungle "May ass is on fire".
LOL
Here waiting for another Nightwish reaction!! ❤️
I don't know anything about musical theory, but I do listen to a lot of stuff. My experience with t his album is that it requires a lot of listens to become enjoyable. This is not unusual for metal, but this album was an extreme case. For the first ~5 or so spins, it sounded mostly like nothing. Only once I knew the music well enough to be familiar with every theme before it happened did I start to enjoy it.
But the payoff was great. If I listen to it now, it's just so much fun. And the album has a ridiculous amount of replayability because it's very complex but not at all emotionally taxing. However, I don't expect many people to spend several hours listening to music they don't like on a promise. I did it because the person who recommended it to me has pretty similar taste to myself.
By the way, this is a concept album, and the story is about as out there as the music. It's about a Mute guy, who is being rejected by the woman he likes and thus convinces himself that this is all because of his disability. He builds his own 'Quiet World' inside of his mind. Then, most of the album is about what happens inside of that quiet world, where the woman he likes and her boyfriend in the real world appear as characters. And to make it extra confusing, it's also told out-of-order (the story begins with track #4).
This isn't a live performance. It's a traditional music video, basically just them playing over the studio track. Strings and keys you hear were recorded in the studio.
In a way not so different from seeing nightwish where even though Thomas is playing keys, 99% of what u hear orchestrally is just a backing track that was recorded in the studio and when nighteish plays live they just play over the top of the backing track with a click track to keep time.
although with these guys, its not an actual set of strings being recorded. the only real instruments on the album are guitar, bass, vocals and i think a bit of saxophone
Juat discovered you because i love Native Construct, and i cant wait to check out more of your reviews!
I think you should review Thank You Scientist, specifically the song Mr Invisible.
Please give Haken - Falling back to earth a listen. Native Construct are inspired by them, but it's much more mature.
That is my absolute favorite Haken track, and it going into Death Embraces shakes me to my core it's so powerful.
Really cool never heard of them before. Makes me think of a progressive nerdy version of the Mars Volta. Nice one!
This song is all over the place. I think "Come Hell or High Water", "Your Familiar Face", "Chromatic Aberration" are more digestible. Also the whole album is trying tell some kind of (maybe poorly) connected story by lyrics.
EXPLAINED...
REFLECTIONS...END...DEAD...
You know its often times hard to get into bands like this. I think its fully understandable. I think Ive only heard about the band by name, and this is to say that Im not a fan at this point in time, but I know more than a couple of bands that give a hard to digest first impression, but end up being awesome. One should have more time and be able to put in more than one listen into it. The common tool of bands like this, however, is to add a section that serves as some sort of a release. There was a bit of it here and there, but probably not enough for you. A band like Deathspell Omega, comes to mind, as another example of a band, which tends to bombard you with something that seems like a total chaos, but then reward you with a breathtaking resolution, however as you keep listening to it more and more, you actually end up enjoying the "chaos" more and more. Sometimes even more that the release.
If you wish I could recommend some of their songs, but due to some stupid blog about their last album, some people think they are "a _bit_ to the right of the political spectrum" (Im using the euphemism to avoid any chance of youtube meddling with the visibility of your video). This idea is laughable to me, after reading the lyrics of the album. It is quite obvious they use a common tool of many metal lyricists, which is to speak from the position of a bad person, with a morbid curiousity, but its obvious they actually speaking against it. Many bands with an anti-war, or even vegan, message have lyrics about how bloodthirsty they are. DSO goes a bit deeper than usual though. So its up to you to choose.
I'd love you to react to Du Tréfonds des Ténèbres by Elend. It's heavily orchestrated neoclassical darkwave music that is completely in the league of its own. As a classical composer there's plenty to chew for you. Would love to hear your take on the piece.
Hello Doug -- an interesting choice. Two small notes: 1) Floor Jansen uploaded an interview yesterday with fellow soprano Simone Simons of Epica, in honor of International Women's Day, entitled "Floor Finds # 7: Simone Simons", at ruclips.net/video/yK0PtS9Rprk/видео.html. The theme of Floor's interview is: "How do you feel being, like myself, a woman in what is usually considered a man's world, of heavy metal?". Maybe something more for your political interests?? 2) Floor and Simone collaborated on a famous duet, called "Sancta Terra", available at ruclips.net/video/cx22Yuj2nzg/видео.html. This 2015 live performance was done with both a backing orchestra and choir. Note that they also collaborated in the same concert on a recital of the opera piece "Pergolesi׃ Stabat mater, for soprano & alto". You're probably familiar with that one. (There is a good rendition of it by Les Talens Lyriques done in 2016 at ruclips.net/video/FjJ02agjjdo/видео.html). The Floor & Simone version is much shorter at just 5min 24sec, you can find it here at: ruclips.net/video/QqdvFPBGN0c/видео.html.
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It doesn’t taste like nothing, it taste like Native Construct. It’s actually a wildly grounded album if you listen to the whole thing. The whole album really does stay in the same lane, tons of motifs and repetition, and it has the same flavor the whole way through. Your points were valid, but when you listen to the whole album many times through it really becomes grounded. I also find overwhelming music to be extremely therapeutic to me lol so I’m bias.
Very interesting work.Sometimes reminds me of Gino Vannelli’s Brother to Brother.I agreed when you said there’s a lot of all over the place.They are young so,let’s see what happens.My respect from Brazil.
Suggestion: react to something from Heilung. They have a lot of live performances recorded (LIFA being THE one). It's something completely different from what you, sir, is probably used to - it's wild, shamanistic, ethnic and that's why I'd love to see your take on this particular kind of music. Cheers!
Lol sorry you didn't like it. I figured you'd either think it was awesome or think "wtf was that". Either way, it was great to see your reaction lol. This is the overture to a concept album so all the themes are expanded on later in the album. There are a lot of cool musical easter eggs to pick up on if you go through it a few times, but unfortunately that involves having to actually listen to the song again 😂. Thanks again, and I hope I didn't ruin anyone else's chances of picking a song in the future lol
It’s all good. I really enjoy getting to experience new musical voices...whether I like the song or not. Great suggestion!
so glad you didnt add ice to that Whisky.... +1 in my book
Reminds me of Between The Buried And Me
Bet my kidney stones they have thoroughly dissected BTBAM and Karmakanic.
I think the best way to listen to Native Construct is going trough the whole album. The album is really made up of a few motifs that get repeated in some way in most of the songs. In that way you get the coherence that maybe each individual song doesn't give.
React to Phish You Enjoy Myself!
I agree with you and an Idea for these well practice muso's is to play and learn 100 Blues songs as this will force them to play only what is needed [ this would be a challenging task for them ] which is the hardest tool to learn with playing music . Blues music is so open and naked; so it will Show or present the muso's weaknesses in their playing .
Need some more Opeth and may be Fleshgod Apocalypse here as well. Fleshgod Apocalypse are a Symphonic Death Metal band, so somewhat relatable to your expertise.
Spot on! I don't like this either. Just technical and it do not move me. Lacks of feeling and emotions. I have asked before and do it again. Please react to Marillion!
maybe some Gojira - Flaying Whales or Another world. Very curious about what you have to say about them
Loving these reactions. Would love to see you do some Leprous or Ayreon.
I'd be stoked to see you react to "Swim to the Moon" by Between the Buried and Me! It's nearly 18 minutes long, which-judging from your Animals As Leaders reaction-you may appreciate. Love hearing your thoughts on prog metal bands!
I was impressed by the vocal harmonies and loved the jazz section. For influences I heard a lot of Queen and Jim Steinman kind of thing. All those guys have chops, but the song was a little unfocused.
You gotta do some Dirty Loops. They’re the musicians musicians
Great choice in whisky and music
Between the Buried and Me - Coma machine : )
If you would like something more in your musical wheel house, check out VOCES8. They are mainly a capella and do a mixture of genres, but a lot of their stuff is classically oriented. A couple of their songs I enjoy are Hymn to St Cecilia - Benjamin Britten and Traditional: Carrickfergus (Arr. Pacey).
Still blows my mind that you haven’t reacted to btbam
I agree, I don't listen to this kind of music because it doesn't really feel musical, it's more of a show of technique. I'd like to recommend The Aristocrats again, a trio of virtuosos and an amazing band. Their song Dance of the Aristocrats is one of my favorites, but any of their songs is great
I love The Aristocrats, but many would accuse them of the same thing: being just a show of technique and not really musical. I don't agree, but that's subjective tastes for you!
@@jonathanhenderson9422 True. Being a prog band they do show just how technically good they are, and some people might not find it appealing. Where these two kinds of bands differ though is that there is a discernible intro, chorus, verse, etc.
@@edgarespinosa9656 I don't think writing discernible intros, choruses, verses, etc. necessarily makes something more "musical" though, and prog especially has a tendency of breaking away from such structures and has done so for decades.
Never thought i’d see a reaction on native construct ... awsm
Anorher great piece but more in the progressive rock/metal genre that i think u would enjoy
Breaking down is Threshold - Pilot in the sky of dreams..
This is prog maximalism, it exists because it can and I respect it for that.
May I suggest that you are rooted in the conventional side of modern music? Avant-garde is not. IMO you should account for that in your analysis. Freedom! The liberties these musicians allow themselves creatively speaking reminds me of Kurt Weil designing non-melodic lines in his compositions of the "German Expressionist and Post-Expressionist era". Breaking the rules and explore... It's a legitimate path. Unexpect was another metal band to wander in the uncharted plains.
I whole-heartedly agree. Thanks for the comment.
You should check out Awakening by Unleash The Archers
PLEEEEASE do Acid Rain by Liquid Tension Experiment!!!
Keep up the good work Doug :-).
Please do an reaction video of Ayreon with When the world breaks free. Amazing intro to the World of Ayreon. Although euch album has an
Different theme and story.
I'm almost certain these guys are influenced by Between the Buried and Me.
The human abstract, black dahlia murder, haken, between the buried and me, leprous, sikth/periphery, animals as leaders… but I hear a lot of human abstract/ black dahlia murder/btbam/haken
All influences I detect
They need to edit. That’s why I was really hoping to see another album from them because I see how much potential they have and like Coco Chanel said take one thing off before you leave the house in terms of an ensemble or outfit and I’ve always felt the same way about music they have just Too many things going on too many key changes and abstractions that take you away from that moment of release, whenever you get the completion of the arrangement, there’s not enough of a Throughline, whereas between the buried and me in there, song swim to the moon is all fairy desperate, but all very cohesive at the same time. These kind of compositions and arrangements are insanely hard to put together and this is their first album, and they were all very young, not trying to make excuses for them. They could all play me out of a job and I really enjoyed the last track and second track- mute was the single and I think it’s not a good opening song.
Think track 2 spark of archon would be a better opener after a minute thirty lead in.
Yeah they need to flesh out their ideas and slow down with the changes
“Work shit out” by dirty loops. I think you’ll like it.
Based Doug
Can you do a reaction to Obscura Akroasis?
It’s a bit all over place for me but it’s interesting. Haken does a great job of melding these types of music’s together
Glad to hear that you don't like everything,. I struggle to like Modern Jazz (like Return to forever / weather report) - is there a genre you find difficult to love?
Dude you're awsome, nice choice of whiskey
p.s. any comments on experimental music?
Queen as a Schizophrenic.
Welcome to the world of postmodern metal! A classical comparison would be a composer like Alfred Schnittke, or in jazz someone like John Zorn. A film example would be Tarantino, a literary example is John Ashbery. Basic idea is that you mix a lot of disparate genres/styles without much attention put towards making it cohere. In postmodernism most of the enjoyment comes from the juxtaposition of radically different ideas. Some people enjoy the "surprise" it brings, while others dislike the incoherency. Like most avant-garde stuff, it's an acquired taste. I also think some artists do it better than others. Native Construct is a band I think has a lot of promise, but I'm not a huge fan (yet).
Would love to hear your take on Marty Friedman!
I heard that there’s a special place in hell for those who only listen to one song from a concept album.
Of you do an reaction video of Ayreon - When the World Breaks Free you can afterwards Watch (in private) this Video of an famous opera singer, vocal teacher / movie actress/star on the same song with an famous RUclips commenter (funny guy who knows music). The woman (Elizabeth who is also known as the Charismatic Voice) said that at first an Ayreon reaction video was blocked by RUclips but she contacted composer Arjen Lucassen and hé was super friendly and deblocked the video because hé want to help RUclips content creators. The link of the reaction video of this famous Woman: ruclips.net/video/V6SajE4u8fc/видео.html
*if instead of of (stupid auto “correct on my phone).
*that
Don’t mention the crazy typo’s because of the “auto correct” on my iPhone
I'd like to hear your take on Cry for the Moon by Epica.
Hey, you should give Pain of Salvation's The perfect element pt.1 anniversary version on Beyond the pale remixed version a shot. I have a feeling that you will enjoy them. Cheers!
Nice reaction video. Looks like the band wanted to be chaotic. A bit like avantgarde bands like Captain Beefheart and his magic Band (with famous painter Don “van” Vliet) on vocals. The difference is that Beefheart was an brilliant onorthodox muscician/composer (even famous classical composer Ivan Stravinsky wanted to work with Don (Captain Beefheart) “van” Vliet and his childhood friend Frank Zappa. Beefheart painted his own album covers and his piantings are in the Museum of Modern Art (moma) and hé was an child prodigy with sculpting. Even cult singers like Tom Waits wanted to imitate the singing style of Beefheart and many bands and muscicians tried to copy the strange onorthodox rythems of the band/music.
Influences? I hear more than a touch of Zappa here. And some Tool. A bit of King Crimson.
If you did Blood Brothers or The Nomad by Iron Maiden you would get way, way more views... Just sayin...
Incoherent is the right word: it seems just a display of everything, no hooks, no motives
I like the begining and the end! Middle too flat for me
I don't believe that no one told you to listen to Manowar or Helloween or Stratovarius! C'mon Manowar and Iron Maiden aswell as Helloween were one of the best in Metal. I can tell you about Black Sabath, Sepultura, Pantera, Metallica, Slayer, Judas Priest, Megadeth, Dio ( the greatest), Exodus, Ozzy Osbourne, Annihilator, King Diamond, Anthrax and so many others! The Metal side of music is so rich, please please please, check them all out, you won't regret it! Cheers.
Loch Gorm by Kilchoman
I think you would enjoy Haken, and the Aristocrats more than this... ... Less manic and the music transitions are much more moving and natural.. less contrived. Haken are a British band who have had probably received as much critical acclaim as you could ever digest... Like Porcupine Tree and Steve Wilson. The most successful producer/artist in the UK that nobody has ever heard of!
Hey, love your videos! You should check out Atlas Stone by Haken, I think you'd really dig it
aaaah..... I thought it said Muse.... but since I am here, I think you would probably like Muse.... I have not listened to them in ages but they are technical geniuses (ps. it is not metal at all, not even sure what you would label Muse as)
ps. is this modern Jazz metal??
How about something heavier? Rings of Saturn - Margidda
Great players, but it sounds like they're trying to write overly complicated music, just for the sake of being complicated.
song seems to make very little sense but that might just be me
It’s an intro to a concept album and a lot of themes are used throughout the album. I wasn’t a huge fan at first either, but everything comes together and now it’s one of my favorite albums ever.
Yeah, interesting is the best word to describe that band, I guess... Cool reaction as always, man!
Could you, please, react to "Czesław Niemen - Bema pamięci żałobny rapsod"?
ruclips.net/video/CgkWs5p6Nk0/видео.html