2:41:38 This is very minor, but I’d just like to point out that, if Shrek hadn’t rescued Fiona, Dragon would still be in the castle and thus could’ve easily burned Prince Charming to a crisp. Once again, she is doing the heavy lifting in this whole franchise.
i feel like this... maybe could've been fixed by them establishing that rumpelstiltskin did hold up his end of the bargain and break her curse, but breaking the curse means she turns permanently into an ogre, not a human. so she'd turn into an ogre, not turn back, figure ok, no one's going to want to rescue an ogre, better rescue myself
@@Zabe_B While I get what you’re saying, her ogre form is her “Love’s True Form”, so I feel like breaking the curse wouldn’t turn her permanently into an ogre? It’s hard to say though without a canonical example of that happening. But I do suppose that it could just come as part of the deal, also.
@@notanarmadillo i was just thinking of it as a "monkeys paw" type thing in this case. like he said he would break the curse, but he didn't say it would make her human, idk.
I would've agreed with you any day before today. But today, I found out that Fairy Godmother was being rounded up with the other fairytale creatures. So I say that with Charming's dependent relationship with his mother, he too would've been rounded up and then been in the crowds of background characters throughout the rest of the film.
Things this video has in common with Haley's Once Upon a Time seasom 1 video * complaining that people dont ask enough questions about Rumplestilskin's contracts * fairy godmothers dying * a villain whose plan is to destroy the happy endings to various fairy tale creatures * haley saying things like "im moving in a week" or "im getting married in 2 days" * haley falling in love with a very niche minor character * haley looking fabulous
One detail I really love in Shrek 1 is that for as much of a blabbermouth as Donkey is, he does actually keep quiet when Fiona has a serious secret she wants him to keep. They could have easily had him comedically tell Shrek by accident, but my man Donkey is a great pal.
Ok, so I agree that the miscommunication trope in childrens media sucks, but I think the conflict in shrek 1 is deeper and a little more nuanced. Fiona's self deprecating comments about how ugly ogres are IS a genuinely hurtful thing to say in front of shrek, even if he knows she just hates herself and not him. its revealing the prejudices she normally hides in front of shrek. he has every reason to not want to be around her after she made those comments about his race tbh. in the end fiona has to accept herself so she can learn that she was giving into (and parroting) hate speech, which is the point of the "but you are beautiful" moment
Yeah, I feel like even as if he knew the context for why she said that, that was still a really legitimately horrible thing to say, because it still absolutely applies to Shrek, even though the movie kind of pretends that it doesn't when Shrek immediately drops the issue when Donkey says she wasn't talking about him
It's a good example of how making self-deprecating comments can often hurt the people around you, even if you aren't insulting them directly. Like, if you keep talking about how much you hate your nose because it's so big, your friend who also has a big nose will also feel bad and think their nose is ugly, and that you think their nose is ugly, because you look similar.
I was gonna say it’s because they got rid of Harald, fairy godmother wouldn’t have made a deal with him to marry off prince charming so he wouldnt come. But I like the idea that he got eaten more
No, he just lost any profit off of saving Fiona. Judging by his swordsman skills and the fact his mother is a literal fairy, plus how professionally he reached the tower - he WOULD be able to kill a dragon
I always assumed Dragon was on the payroll of the Fairy Godmother or otherwise under her control. Fiona wasn’t locked up by some evil sorcerer intent on keeping her there forever, she was locked up because it was deal between her parents and the Fairy Godmother. Plus I can’t imagine the Fairy Godmother sending her precious baby boy into ACTUAL danger. So either Dragon would’ve stood down for Charming or the Fairy Godmother had reason to believe Charming would’ve been alright (perhaps the chains were enchanted and would’ve restrained Dragon? Maybe Charming was given some magic to help him? I could definitely see the Fairy Godmother trapping and having Charming kill Dragon just for the sake of a traditional story, not to mention all the other folks who died trying to rescue Fiona). My assumption was that by signing the deal with Rumplestiltskin, the deal with the Fairy Godmother was broken AND Charming would’ve lost interest anyway because Fiona was no longer a princess. So Charming, notable scumbag, would’ve just left Fiona to rot.
Only twelve minutes in and I realized how easily the Shrek gang can be recontextualized as a D&D party. Shrek is a Barbarian, Fiona’s a Fighter, Donkey’s a Bard, and Puss is multiclassing Ranger and Rogue.
and the dragon is just a dnd dragon they have hanging around? the bard rolled a nat 20 persuasion check on the dragon and she is just a part of the party now lmao
I love how they gave Puss in boots six seasons and yet in none of them do they explain why he was known for killing ogres when he's so clearly bad at it
I’d like to mention how in Shrek Forever After, Pinocchio calmly corrects Rumpelstiltskin that he’s not a real boy and then kicks his ass out when he offers him a deal because he doesn’t care anymore about being a “real boy”, saying nobody needs his deals anymore implying everyone is happy with their lives. Pinocchio and the rest of the fairy tale creatures learnt to love themselves just like Shrek did, and that’s why the scene where in the AU Pinocchio is grovelling to Rumpelfor a wish is so sad to me because Shrek was never there for the world to learn from. 😔
It's so cool that Shrek and Fiona's self made happily ever after had a domino effect on everyone. Those two proved that not everything has be perfectly clear cut and that what really matters is what you make of it. Pinocchio being content with living as a wooden boy is just one thing. The Big Bad Wolf is friends with the pigs and most of the villains in the third film change from a speech reminding them of it. Even without Shrek's direct influence we get stuff like Goldilocks being adopted by the three bears. Since we don't know the exact timeline maybe that happened after Shrek 1 and the bears just heard that others were subverting their stories so they might as well too. Pretty crazy how two ogres getting married can change the entire world for the better.
Little fun fact: In Shrek 2, the potion that Donkey drank was also supposed to effect Dragon just like it effected Fiona when Shrek took it. There were small concept designs that showed Dragon as a unicorn.
I'M SORRY I ONLY KNOW THAT MELODY FROM KE$HA'S HIT SONG TAKE IT OFF, I FEEL A FOOL (if you haven't watched over three hours of shrek based video so far, this won't make sense yet, but please accept this apology when it becomes relevant)
Shrek bless you. I was scouring the internet looking for this information. Shrek: Ogres and Dronkeys Funny that this same thing happened with Beast being named Adam in a random CD-ROM game.
I think Lillian actually DID know Harold was a frog originally. If you listen closely to them talking before Harold is threatened by the Fairy Godmother in their room. She talks about them being young and in love down by the lilypads. Also their bedroom has a lot of Princess and the Frog (the book) theming. I think at the end of Shrek 2, she wasn't saying that she could still love him as a frog, but more that she loved him no matter what form he was. And she loved him as a frog when they were young before he was turned into a human.
It also applies a bit more nuance to his dislike of Shrek being an ogre in the beginning. While he IS being unreasonable, he did transform into a human and indeed seems to think it was necessary to change himself to be with his wife. Which is untrue, the Queen loves him regardless, but it mirrors Shrek trying to magically become human for Fiona because he society has convinced him he has to in order to make her happy. At the start, the king probably noticed the parallels and for all he’s going after Shrek for not being human, he’s also talking about how he believes HE couldn’t be good enough for his wife or the kingdom unless he was human. But in the end when Shrek remains an ogre, the king also goes back to being a frog. Neither of them needed to be someone they weren’t, and in fact the women they loved loved them either way. And then we can get into how the Fairy Godmother seems to be actively selling these narratives of needing to change yourself to be accepted and loved and the way the king specifically seems to have history with her, and how that narrative which was sold to the king was then imposed on Fiona who was locked up as part of ‘breaking her curse’ when really none of it was necessary, but by accepting themselves the Fairy Godmother and her magical ‘cures’ for problems that were never really problems becomes obsolete.
2:10:38 wearing a full body, fur donkey costume under broadway stage lights that are hotter than the pits of hell AND giving such an energetic performance?? i think he deserves at least a 7/10
Yeah I played donkey in a high school production. There was cardboard in the hand hooves and I sweated so much that the cardboard was soft and started deteriorating the first time I wore it.
Regarding the inconsistent dronkey numbers: Maybe (especially since the gestation period seems so short) the OG dronkey kids from Shrek 2 have already pretty much grown up, and the 5 dronkeys you see in Shrek 3 are already their second set of kids? 3 years is long enough for most animals to reach relative maturity, and I also think it would be really objectively funny for Shrek to be worried about having kids for the first time while Donkey's already got, like, 11 of them and is still totally chill at all times.
@@briarnotblairi realised the length of the video about two minutes in and thought ‘what have i gotten myself into??’ Needless to say, i am watching it all.
Another fun thing about Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is that not only do you not need to have seen "The Adventures of Puss In Boots" (2015-2018) to understand it, but you don't even really need to have seen "Puss in Boots" (2011). I saw it when it first came out, but by the time I saw The Last Wish I had forgotten so much that I seriously thought Kitty Softpaws was a new character. The movie did such a good job establishing their relationship that I never felt like I'd missed anything.
Yeah, to my memory I've never seen Puss in Boots 2011 and didn't even realize there was another movie until a while later. It worked just fine on it's own!
That’s what they were going for. An original stand alone adventure that works well all on its own and as a reintroduction of Shrek to the new generation
@@sharpeningtheaxe In the 3rd movie we see that Snow White has heart tattoo with Grumpy's name, implying a romantic history, and possible mother to Farquad.
2:42:00 Counterpoint: Charming was able to make it into the castle and up to Fiona exceptionally easy in Shrek 2 because Dragon wasn't present, we have no reason to assume that he wouldn't show up and get disintegrated by her like all the other knights that attempted and failed to rescue Fiona in the past before Shrek
while I do agree with this, there's also the reality that Fiona's tower imprisonment was orchestrated by fairy godmother and therefore rigged for charming to always succeed, aka maybe dragon was trained/enchanted to surrender to charming
@@saucytruffle4738then she wouldve been rescued by him way way wayyyy earlier and the first movie wouldn't be about shrek. itd be about prince charming taking the throne and his mom abusing power or somethin
I won a Shrek coloring contest at our local movie theater when Shrek 2 came out, I won free movie tickets. That has since completely affected my confidence as an artist, I have a small business now. Shrek is basically responsible for most of my artistic journey 😂
The Whiteboard Drawings - 10/10! The Outfits - 10/10! The term Shrekspert - 10/10! The wall slowly getting filled with posters - 10/10! The saying the year of the movie every time - 10/10! The unhinged Unraveled energy - 10/10!
I would also like to put forth my theory on why in the Alternate Universe Prince Charming never rescued Fiona. My theory is that PC never really cared about Fiona, him and his mother only cared about him becoming prince and eventually King so once Fiona wasn't heir to the throne he'd have no reason to go save her.
That's a good reason why he wouldn't want to save her. I'd also say that without Shrek and Donkey going there, Dragon would still be guarding the tower. And we know who wins in the PC vs Dragon battle
Theres also the fact that didn’t Fiona’s parents end her curse with the deal? Meaning that Fiona became an ogre permanently? Maybe that freaked her out and changed the timeline?
I can imagine Fairy Godmother sending a message to her son via bird letter or a magic voicemail saying "My dearest child, I regret to inform you that the slimy pathetic king of Far Far Away went back on our deal and gave up his kingdom to some wackjob with a magically binding contract that's too powerful even for my magic to counteract. Fall back and return to me, we'll have to find another royal bloodline to manipulate. As for the girl you can just let her rot in that tower for all the hardship her family put us through." -Love Mommy ❤
Unexpected outcome of this video - Puss in Boots is a tragic hero who cannot escape the fate of losing everyone he loves. That and the last wish is so incredible because there was literally a revolution in 3d digital animation during its development. And it shows! Its so cool!
@@thatrantinggirl7376Shrek 1 is just a predecessor because it was the original release of anything in the franchise, not a prequel. the definition of a prequel is something that comes out after the original or previous release but it chronologically takes place before it too.
I think one thing that was missed that after Fiona says she was sent away on a Christmas Eve, shrek says he was sent away on his birthday. And you see them cross paths in the beginning song. Meaning, his birthday day is Christmas Eve, making his indifference towards Christmas more deep when you think I about it.
1:04:35 Fun fact: hybrid species portmanteau names conventionally start with the sire's species first. That's why there's actually a distinction between a liger and tigon (in actual physical form too not just in name) even though both are half tiger half lion. So technically speaking, Donkey and Dragon's kids shouldn't be called dronkies or dragkies, they should be called either dongons or dogons.
i wasn't expecting to actually sit here for 5 hours and watch you talk, but you're so charming??? i was just gonna listen to some shrek rambling, but you're so genuinely amused by what you're talking about, it's so wholesome to watch.
Dissociation doesn't happen when you deep dive into the entire Shrek series to make a video. No, no... that's fine. The psyche barely even trembles, barely quavers. No, the dissociation hits when you realize that the video you made is almost enough time to watch the four main movies back to back.
2:24:07 okay hi this is such a minor thing to comment on BUT for the stained glass window that breaks in the Shrek Musical, it looks like to me (theatre person) that the backdrop is 3 layers. One layer is the the wall surrounding the window (or maybe this layer doesn't exist and I'm making that one up), the second layer is the complete window which is segmented into different parts, and the third layer is the broken window! The full window layer is on different pullies that pull the segments apart, leading into the broken window but still infinitely assembleable for each night. I know this particular explanation makes no sense but I'm 90% sure that's how it works. Thank you for the awesome video!!
Oh my god the girl cat from the TV show is. So insane. Her proportions are so insanely different from Puss and it’s not only distracting it’s genuinely upsetting Edit: also holy shit the original Shrek movie came out the day before I was born. Hells
Do you think that was the intention when she was designed, like the goblin kid with a neck, or did they retcon her being a tulpa to justify her looking Like That
To be fair to Puss and his long list of romantic interests, he DID live (or at least die) 8 lives. Not all True Love (TM) lasts through multiple lives.
The biggest plot twist was I was convinced I’d never seen Shrek Forever After and then, as you explained it, slowly realising I had in fact seen it and repressed every memory of doing so
I went to the Shrek Experience in London, and I have two things to note: 1. Rumplestiltskin is very much still a menace, he lives in the evil woods around Far Far Away 2. Thelonius is a face character who plays a role in torturing Pinocchio, he still has the Farquaad logo in his dungeon so idk his alliance
Once you get to about Shrek 4 you really start to give off "Drunk lady who cornered me at a party" vibes. It's a lovely video, thank you for your sacrifice.
How did you know I love multi-hour long dissections of stuff I know (but not completely) and want color commentary. This is amazing. You have done the internet a great service.
They really did Brian D'arcy James dirty with Shrek the Musical the man is an incredible actor also literally every farquad blooper no matter the production no matter the quality are always fantastic. A personal favorite is when his shoe/leg situation breaks so he uses the leg like a mic in a song
kind of messed up how an afterlife does provably exist in the Shrek universe, but at the same time your immortal soul can be utterly annihilated by dragonfire.
i will never forget the time i got into a taxi and the driver had jade statues of the buddha all over his headboard but with one sneaky little shrek in the exact same shade of green smack dab in the middle
2:42:10 I always assumed that the reason charming never rescued Fiona was because rescuing her would no longer make him king of far far away and that's the only reason he was going to in the first place. Since he would have originally showed up a couple weeks after she got rescued. In the timeline where The king and queen dissolved into Golden dust I assumed the fairy godmother who is in constant communication with Harold told her son not to go anymore
I watched this after I watched your Once Upon A Time: Season One video (which in and of itself I watched after being wildly obsessed with the show years ago) so the way that you felt about cameos in Puss In Boots: The Last Wish (2022) was exactly the way I felt whenever you said Rumpelstiltskin/Snow White/Prince Charming etc. Just like "ah! AH! THERE HE IS!" I felt like a video game character when they get an exclamation point over their head.
The “Pinocchio wasn’t filled in on the details of Shrek 4D so he’s only got rumors of Farquaad’s ghost” is funny because he was IN THE PRESHOW WITH THE GHOST! I don’t recall the details of the actual ride footage so maybe he’s worried since last he saw there was confirmed ghost and he doesn’t know he’s dealt with?
It's kind of hilarious how Dulcineas super stylized anatomy compared to Puss is actaually what makes her able to perform the ritual..😅 I mean her head is freakishly big so that's why she can wear the crown. And she only has 4 digits like a rubberhose cartoon character. crazy. I wonder how that eneded up in the story.
"Prince Charming would have rescued Fiona" What about the Dragon Haley. You said it yourself, the dragon ALWAYS saves the day. You're telling me, mummies boy Prince Charming would have an even playing field against THE DRAGON. Tsk tsk
At 1:52:29 The Song that plays is not Ride of the Valkyries (which would be much better for this section), it is O Fortuna from the Carmina Burana. A song usually associated with despair and darkness. Weird choice for the Music….
This is beautiful. I'm so glad I was lured in by the FNAF video and then found this one. Multi-hour explorations of franchises are my favourite genre of video and it's about Shrek?? Yes.
Still in the process of watching and I love it so much, but I did want to give background on the preshow of Shrek 4-D for those who may not know! Basically, the premise was that The Three Little Pigs, Pinocchio, and Gingy were kidnapped and locked in the dungeon of Farquad's castle. We end up in the dungeon with them and the magic mirror, and get the background from Shrek (2001) as well as be introduced to the ghost of Farquad who is going to torture the fairy tale creatures to find out where Fiona is, and then decides that we'll also be tortured in the auditorium which is when we're let into the actual 4-D movie.
I also watched the adventures of puss in boots in a very short period of time last year after becoming hyperfixated on puss in boots from watching the last wish whenever I think about this show I specifically remember the feeling of being home alone wearing a cardboard mustache from my frozen pizza sobbing while watching the last two episodes and feeling hollow when it was over because of how obsessive I was and now its gone and I had nothing left to do.
The thing about the miscommunication of the first movie is that even if Fiona didn't mean to, when she refers to herself as a horrible unlovable monster because she is an oger, it also means that she thinks Shrek is too. There is no difference. I remember my mom telling me as a kid that when we say we are ugly because of a characteristic (our nose,.our weight, our skin color...) We are calling every other person with that characteristic ugly. Whether we mean to or not. Fiona was talking about Shrek that way. Even if she didn't realize it or mean to.
As someone who had to watch Rear Window by Alfred Hitchcock for a film class back in high school, truly an absolutely masterful 1 to 1 accurate adaptation of Hitchcock’s work.
now I haven't seen the original, but I HAVE seen the Simpsons parody (S6E1 "Bart of Darkness") as well as the Home Movies parody (S4E11 "Definite Possible Murder") so I do consider myself an expert and based on those, it was also 1 to 1 accurate.
@@dangernoodledee111 lmao that’s where I saw it as well! I’m glad they’re still showing it in high schools, it’s a very fun film to watch & was one of the only ones in film class where I wasn’t bored out of my mind the whole time.
I love how when the king gets turned back into a frog and donkey goes “man and he was giving you a hard time the whole time” I cannot 😭 he’s an amazing best friend.
Here's an interesting Shrek fact I learned at Dollar Tree of all places. The dragons name is Elizabeth the Dragoness. So Dollar Tree has these little figurines of characters from movies and other popular media, and they had figures for Shrek. On the packaging of each character is their name. These are officially licensed figures too. The strangest way to learn Shrek facts. 😆
I recently watched a video, I think by Cinema Therapy, about Shrek. At one point they showed a scene where Dragon was grunt/roaring in response to something (I think it was in Shrek 3) and the subtitles on the video said something like “Elizabeth roars”. I had to pause and go “Elizabeth?! She has a name?!!!” So, yeah, it’s weird how one comes across information like that. lol 😅
in Shrek 2 when they pass out from drinking the happily ever after potion, Donkey yells "I'm coming, Elizabeth!" I've always assumed it was a reference I wasn't getting but I guess he was just calling out to his wife.
I... am not sure what I just watched. And I definitely did not remember everything in the Shrek Movies. But my goodness, do I appreciate Haley's dedication to making us all Shreksperts. She could drag me to the ends of the earth if she so desired and I would not complain once. I have dedicated well over 600 hours of my life to Haley Whipjack. I am obsessed with this content. And some how I never realized how much there was to learn. And now I am rambling because of the five hours that I have watched going from Shrek to Puss in Boots for a movie that probably won't come into existence. But who are we kidding? None of us watched this for Shrek 5. We watched this because Haley has an innate talent to make anything entertaining.
An FYI for Shrek the Musical, I've seen it 3 times live (I was young and obsessed) and there is a variation of the show that happened (at least in the UK tour for whatever year I was seeing it) where they didn't have any children in the cast. Instead of the opening song having Shrek and his parents as well as young Fiona, it had adult Shrek and Fiona sticking their heads in and out of a story book and singing the song. I Know It's Today also replaced the young and teenage Fiona with puppets, but not puppets of Fiona, just generic princess puppets. Fiona was just a puppeteer for the one song and then it was never brought up again. She puppeteered a whole chorus of puppets and it was just forgotten about after that one song. The Dragon's song was also not Donkey Pot Pie in this version, and was another song called Forever as you mentioned which I personally think is worse than Donkey Pot Pie, so there is another version of the show that is probably floating around out there on the internet somewhere.
The thing that freaks me out is just HOW MUCH of this stuff I watched as it came out. It helped that as a kid I had the DVDs at my dad’s house, no satellite or cable, and way too much time on my hands dedicated to doing anything but going outside
Since Harold turned out to be..well... a frog, does that imply that Lillian has the only legitimate claim to the throne? Harold would have married INTO Far Far Away royalty, especially since Artie is related to Fiona on *her mother's side* . Yeah, Lillian got screwed in this.
I didn't know I needed a 5 and a half hour video essay on the Shrek Cinematic Universe, but I did, and thank you. And thank you RUclips for knowing me better than I know myself.
@haleywhipjack I have found a citation! The official Shrek Babysitting Game, “Shrek: Ogres and Dronkeys” names the five present Dronkeys. Eclair remains at large.
1:14:46 I personally think that after the fairy God mother died, the only thing that was properly left for him to inherit was the potion factory, since while she was wealthy, the majority of her power and control came from her reputation, and interpersonal connections with important figures, those connections being presumably in the same vein as her connection to Prince Harold being that she was able to keep them under pressure, and served as their providers, as she was the one keeping them in high status. Since those connections were related to her, and were specifically between her and the people she had connections to, after she died, those secrets died with her. Prince charming is also pretty incompetent, and has no importance on his own since he was more of a bargaining chip than anything, and was being used for the sake of getting closer to the throne. He doesn't know Jack shit about how to use magic or operate it, and while he does learn a bit more throughout shrek three, he mainly gets others to use it for him. With this and the fact that he didn't manage jack shit, and was just sucking up to his mother his whole life, I think that when he got the potion factory, he sucked at managing the place, and with the damages caused to both the stock, and machinery of the place, not to mention the reimbued sense of worker rights put in the receptionist, I fully feel that three years was way more than enough for the potion industry he inherited to crumble away in his hands.
Years ago I was working front-of-house at a theatre that received the UK tour of Shrek: The Musical, so I got paid to "watch" it (being inside the venue to watch the audience). There honestly wasn't much that I remember liking about it, but one of my favourite moments seems to not be in the version you saw- in Act 2 where Farquaad rolls up on his horse to meet Fiona, instead of "Plastic Horse", he calls "Whoooaah, Fibreglass!"
Um.... so.... without a better explanation... my only implication is that... fiona was cursed to be an ogre at night as some sort of side effect of Human Lily and Frog Harold having a child
2:42:30 If we recall the plot by the godmother, the point of charming rescuing fiona was for him to rule over FFA. with Fiona's parents unexisted and stiltskin now owning FFA charming would have no reason to save her. If he still decided to try to save her, we also see in shrek 2 that Fiona simply doesn't like Charming, and i'm willing to bet she still wouldnt if he was the one to save her.
1) I guess you could chalk Prince Charming not coming to rescue Fiona in Shrek 4 down to him finding out that not only that Harold and Lillian got Thanosed but that they signed the kingdom away so if he went through with rescuing Fiona, he wouldn't even get a kingdom out of it. He and the Fairy Godmother probably got killed trying to scam Rumpelstiltskin. 2) If we never see the 6th Dronkey again, did Donkey and Dragon loose a child in the 3 years between Shreks 2 and 3? Donkey using his trademark humor to mask the tragedy and distract people and keep them happy? What if it happed in one of the convoluted chaos sequences 3) What is important to note is that the Zombies we see in the Thriller Video is that we see Zombies of characters did not die along with characters who did. Therefore Mungo is fine, it was all Shrek's dream. 4) I'm choosing to believe The Adventures of Puss In Boots is a fictional story which Puss is telling to Shrek and Donkey's kids. Probably because a lot of the actual stories about him are about him stealing or are to violent or just otherwise, not very PG. Hey remember when Puss was introduced as an assassin and an Ogre killer? Imagine telling that to Felicia, Fergus and Farkel.
Hey so I had a lot of artwork to finish today for my job and I decided I would NOT stop or give up until this video was done. I almost quit at the puss in boots part, but didn't. And I finished my work. Just wanted to thank you, five hours here felt like a success and I can only IMAGINE the amount of work you put into this. You're really charming and fun to listen to, so thank you!!!!
I just wanted to say at 1:51:25 that’s O Fortuna not Ride of the Valkeries. Really loving the video it’s so nice to see someone so passionate about worldbuilding in a narrative. Warms my little writers heart 😂❤
It's a bit of an odd choice as well, at least how she framed it. It might make more sense in context, but with just what she showed Ride would fit a little better
I was really surprised to see how much people hate shrek the third because as a kid it was my favorite one! I watched it over and over. Then I watched your review and now I understand (if we’re getting specific the one I watched over and over was the Christmas short)
I like how there are bandaids on different fingers during this. What were you doing, Haley? Also, "I'm a Believer" was written by Mike Nesmith and performed by The Monkees! Smashmouth just covered it later. Also, THANK YOU tor reviewing all of this... stuff
I think charming didn't rescue fiona cause 1. She wasnt a princess anymore so why would he bother 2. Dragon was there this time in shrek 2 dragon was gone But i will say i dont understand why fiona is still cursed cause wasnt the deal with fionas parents to lift her curse it seemed like they just signed a contract to lose everything and literally gain nothing
I actually think the idea that Fionna was at her Absolute Limit™ like 3 days before she was finally going to be rescued after 23 YEARS is really funny. Although I guess it's possible that word got back to her about her PARENTS DISSOLVING and her kingdom being given to Rumplestiltskin...so maybe that's why she left the tower?
I HAVE ANSWERS ABT DONKEY AND DRAGON'S KIDS! Their names are established in the Nintendo DS game Shrek: Ogres and Dronkeys (2007) which was basically a Nintendogs clone but with babysitting and Shrek. I had it as a kid and it was pretty unmemorable but when you mentioned Parfait I had a that's so raven vision remembering this stupid game so yeah
Listening to the aopib recap felt like the way I feel explaining an overly complicated DND session to my partner. Genuinely amazing video, I cannot believe I watched 5 and a half hours in one sitting without using 2x times speed. It was just genuinely that engaging
Shrek 2 (2004)'s "Holding Out For A Hero" scene is inarguably a top 10 scene in film. Foot to the floor, straight fucking gas beginning to end. Unmatched
RUclips has been recommending me this video for over a month and I kept not watching it even though it's exactly the type of thing I'd watch. I looked up "once upon a time retrospective" on RUclips 2 days ago and your video on it was the first to pop up. Imagine my surprise when you mentioned the 44 hours of Shrek video. I regret not trusting youtubes recommendation from the start. This was great. Loved every second of it except that part at the beginning when you said Donkey was commenting and complementing Shreks swamp, then showed Donkey saying "i like that boulder, that's a nice boulder" because that is not at all the order that happened in. I thought about that the entire 2 days it took me to watch this. Other than that, 10/10.
Yup. And considering we see Robin Hood in the first film we can actually use the chronology of those stories to state that the film take place some time between 1190-1194 A.D Though Christmas wasn't like the modern American amalgamation of traditions at that time. So it is still a bit off
Why did I watch all of this in one sitting
Hello good sir, didn't expect to find you here but maybe I should have...
It got me through a whole shift at work bless this video
OHHHH IT’S HAPPENED
It took me 4 sittings personally. Also hi Schaf! A man of culture as always
I mean, after all their binging, hours and hours of love and life, it's the least we can do to subject ourselves to second hand madness 🙃
2:41:38 This is very minor, but I’d just like to point out that, if Shrek hadn’t rescued Fiona, Dragon would still be in the castle and thus could’ve easily burned Prince Charming to a crisp. Once again, she is doing the heavy lifting in this whole franchise.
i feel like this... maybe could've been fixed by them establishing that rumpelstiltskin did hold up his end of the bargain and break her curse, but breaking the curse means she turns permanently into an ogre, not a human. so she'd turn into an ogre, not turn back, figure ok, no one's going to want to rescue an ogre, better rescue myself
Also maybe since Shrek didn’t interfere with Farquad’s tournament, whoever won that ended up messing up Charming’s quest somehow
@@Zabe_B While I get what you’re saying, her ogre form is her “Love’s True Form”, so I feel like breaking the curse wouldn’t turn her permanently into an ogre? It’s hard to say though without a canonical example of that happening. But I do suppose that it could just come as part of the deal, also.
@@notanarmadillo i was just thinking of it as a "monkeys paw" type thing in this case. like he said he would break the curse, but he didn't say it would make her human, idk.
I would've agreed with you any day before today. But today, I found out that Fairy Godmother was being rounded up with the other fairytale creatures. So I say that with Charming's dependent relationship with his mother, he too would've been rounded up and then been in the crowds of background characters throughout the rest of the film.
Things this video has in common with Haley's Once Upon a Time seasom 1 video
* complaining that people dont ask enough questions about Rumplestilskin's contracts
* fairy godmothers dying
* a villain whose plan is to destroy the happy endings to various fairy tale creatures
* haley saying things like "im moving in a week" or "im getting married in 2 days"
* haley falling in love with a very niche minor character
* haley looking fabulous
To be fair, the last one is a constant of the universe.
One detail I really love in Shrek 1 is that for as much of a blabbermouth as Donkey is, he does actually keep quiet when Fiona has a serious secret she wants him to keep. They could have easily had him comedically tell Shrek by accident, but my man Donkey is a great pal.
Ok, so I agree that the miscommunication trope in childrens media sucks, but I think the conflict in shrek 1 is deeper and a little more nuanced. Fiona's self deprecating comments about how ugly ogres are IS a genuinely hurtful thing to say in front of shrek, even if he knows she just hates herself and not him. its revealing the prejudices she normally hides in front of shrek. he has every reason to not want to be around her after she made those comments about his race tbh. in the end fiona has to accept herself so she can learn that she was giving into (and parroting) hate speech, which is the point of the "but you are beautiful" moment
Yeah, I feel like even as if he knew the context for why she said that, that was still a really legitimately horrible thing to say, because it still absolutely applies to Shrek, even though the movie kind of pretends that it doesn't when Shrek immediately drops the issue when Donkey says she wasn't talking about him
@@vsptylore3639kr? imagine your love interest walks up to you and says “i HATE humans and i hate LOOKING LIKE a human” like bro…ow
@@wrightcember i mean. humans suck so valid.
It's a good example of how making self-deprecating comments can often hurt the people around you, even if you aren't insulting them directly. Like, if you keep talking about how much you hate your nose because it's so big, your friend who also has a big nose will also feel bad and think their nose is ugly, and that you think their nose is ugly, because you look similar.
@@biihisme Very true, and well-said!!
I think the assumption that Fiona wouldn't be rescued is based around the idea that Dragon would've just eaten Charming
I was gonna say it’s because they got rid of Harald, fairy godmother wouldn’t have made a deal with him to marry off prince charming so he wouldnt come. But I like the idea that he got eaten more
No, he just lost any profit off of saving Fiona.
Judging by his swordsman skills and the fact his mother is a literal fairy, plus how professionally he reached the tower - he WOULD be able to kill a dragon
I always assumed Dragon was on the payroll of the Fairy Godmother or otherwise under her control. Fiona wasn’t locked up by some evil sorcerer intent on keeping her there forever, she was locked up because it was deal between her parents and the Fairy Godmother. Plus I can’t imagine the Fairy Godmother sending her precious baby boy into ACTUAL danger. So either Dragon would’ve stood down for Charming or the Fairy Godmother had reason to believe Charming would’ve been alright (perhaps the chains were enchanted and would’ve restrained Dragon? Maybe Charming was given some magic to help him? I could definitely see the Fairy Godmother trapping and having Charming kill Dragon just for the sake of a traditional story, not to mention all the other folks who died trying to rescue Fiona).
My assumption was that by signing the deal with Rumplestiltskin, the deal with the Fairy Godmother was broken AND Charming would’ve lost interest anyway because Fiona was no longer a princess. So Charming, notable scumbag, would’ve just left Fiona to rot.
Only twelve minutes in and I realized how easily the Shrek gang can be recontextualized as a D&D party.
Shrek is a Barbarian, Fiona’s a Fighter, Donkey’s a Bard, and Puss is multiclassing Ranger and Rogue.
and the dragon is just a dnd dragon they have hanging around? the bard rolled a nat 20 persuasion check on the dragon and she is just a part of the party now lmao
OMG seduces a dragon and won't shut up during battle, he's totally a Bard!!!
I want to play this now
Wouldn't Fiona be closer to a Monk? She fights unarmed pretty often and effectively.
@@PhoenicopterusR I had forgotten about Monks. My bad.
I love how they gave Puss in boots six seasons and yet in none of them do they explain why he was known for killing ogres when he's so clearly bad at it
I have never been so scared of something that feels like it was made specifically for me
Codi Vore
i was also nervously hesitant..
This -hole- video was made for me
@@Ezekiel_Alliumthat one almost went over my head, nice
If this doesn't get you an invite to the premiere of Shrek 5, I'm going to be so upset, you deserve it after performing this service to humanity.
I’d like to mention how in Shrek Forever After, Pinocchio calmly corrects Rumpelstiltskin that he’s not a real boy and then kicks his ass out when he offers him a deal because he doesn’t care anymore about being a “real boy”, saying nobody needs his deals anymore implying everyone is happy with their lives.
Pinocchio and the rest of the fairy tale creatures learnt to love themselves just like Shrek did, and that’s why the scene where in the AU Pinocchio is grovelling to Rumpelfor a wish is so sad to me because Shrek was never there for the world to learn from. 😔
It's so cool that Shrek and Fiona's self made happily ever after had a domino effect on everyone. Those two proved that not everything has be perfectly clear cut and that what really matters is what you make of it. Pinocchio being content with living as a wooden boy is just one thing. The Big Bad Wolf is friends with the pigs and most of the villains in the third film change from a speech reminding them of it. Even without Shrek's direct influence we get stuff like Goldilocks being adopted by the three bears. Since we don't know the exact timeline maybe that happened after Shrek 1 and the bears just heard that others were subverting their stories so they might as well too. Pretty crazy how two ogres getting married can change the entire world for the better.
Little fun fact: In Shrek 2, the potion that Donkey drank was also supposed to effect Dragon just like it effected Fiona when Shrek took it. There were small concept designs that showed Dragon as a unicorn.
OH MY GOD IS THAT HOW THEY WERE MEANT TO HAVE KIDS
LOOK WHAT THEY TOOK FROM US!
should've made dragon a hot man /j
I'M SORRY I ONLY KNOW THAT MELODY FROM KE$HA'S HIT SONG TAKE IT OFF, I FEEL A FOOL (if you haven't watched over three hours of shrek based video so far, this won't make sense yet, but please accept this apology when it becomes relevant)
i love that canonically shrek is technically an oger twink, hes so little compared to all the other ogers its so funny
Lmaoo god I love that
don't you ever call Shrek that again
Ogre Dwarfism I understand.
I swear (more hope tbh) that Oger Twink doesn't mean what you think it means
no he would be an ogre twunk, more in line with an ogre hunk i'd think, not an ogre twink. twink doesn't just equal short
@@canariawing 🤣👏
If you’re still wondering where the dronkeys’ names came from there is a shrek ds game where you babysit for donkey and shrek. It names all of them.
Shrek bless you. I was scouring the internet looking for this information.
Shrek: Ogres and Dronkeys
Funny that this same thing happened with Beast being named Adam in a random CD-ROM game.
I think Lillian actually DID know Harold was a frog originally. If you listen closely to them talking before Harold is threatened by the Fairy Godmother in their room. She talks about them being young and in love down by the lilypads. Also their bedroom has a lot of Princess and the Frog (the book) theming. I think at the end of Shrek 2, she wasn't saying that she could still love him as a frog, but more that she loved him no matter what form he was. And she loved him as a frog when they were young before he was turned into a human.
Honestly looking back on it i kinda figured that from the begining, nd makes their relationship even sweeter
It took me years to realize he was the frog prince.
It also applies a bit more nuance to his dislike of Shrek being an ogre in the beginning. While he IS being unreasonable, he did transform into a human and indeed seems to think it was necessary to change himself to be with his wife. Which is untrue, the Queen loves him regardless, but it mirrors Shrek trying to magically become human for Fiona because he society has convinced him he has to in order to make her happy. At the start, the king probably noticed the parallels and for all he’s going after Shrek for not being human, he’s also talking about how he believes HE couldn’t be good enough for his wife or the kingdom unless he was human.
But in the end when Shrek remains an ogre, the king also goes back to being a frog. Neither of them needed to be someone they weren’t, and in fact the women they loved loved them either way.
And then we can get into how the Fairy Godmother seems to be actively selling these narratives of needing to change yourself to be accepted and loved and the way the king specifically seems to have history with her, and how that narrative which was sold to the king was then imposed on Fiona who was locked up as part of ‘breaking her curse’ when really none of it was necessary, but by accepting themselves the Fairy Godmother and her magical ‘cures’ for problems that were never really problems becomes obsolete.
I always assumed she knew
doris winning far far away idol (2004) makes me so happy. AS SHE SHOULD!!
also, as someone who played big bad wolf in a school production im disappointed her costume change was not mentioned
2:10:38 wearing a full body, fur donkey costume under broadway stage lights that are hotter than the pits of hell AND giving such an energetic performance?? i think he deserves at least a 7/10
7/10? Nah, thats a sweat out of ten
I was part of crew for our high schools production and 90% of my job was shoving ice into donkeys suit while he was offstage. It’s a brutal costume
Yeah I played donkey in a high school production. There was cardboard in the hand hooves and I sweated so much that the cardboard was soft and started deteriorating the first time I wore it.
"Woah, plastic horse!" Is my favorite thing in that entire musical. It completely caught me off guard.
I was so so SO happy she brought in the musical!!! such a hidden gem OMG I LOVE the musical
Regarding the inconsistent dronkey numbers:
Maybe (especially since the gestation period seems so short) the OG dronkey kids from Shrek 2 have already pretty much grown up, and the 5 dronkeys you see in Shrek 3 are already their second set of kids? 3 years is long enough for most animals to reach relative maturity, and I also think it would be really objectively funny for Shrek to be worried about having kids for the first time while Donkey's already got, like, 11 of them and is still totally chill at all times.
Thats actually such a funny thought, i will accept it without question
I cant wait for shrek 5 (???) To come out and on the poster is just donkey and his 11 fully grown dronkey children
@@roseevans4101assuming they stopped at eleven 😂 I’m hoping for a whole swarm of dronkeys
Hayley IMMEDIATELY regretting the implication that she was your mom all along at the end of the video is definitely worth the five and a half hours
And this comment is when I, already two and a half hours into the video, realized it was five and a half hours long
@@briarnotblairi realised the length of the video about two minutes in and thought ‘what have i gotten myself into??’
Needless to say, i am watching it all.
Another fun thing about Puss in Boots: The Last Wish is that not only do you not need to have seen "The Adventures of Puss In Boots" (2015-2018) to understand it, but you don't even really need to have seen "Puss in Boots" (2011). I saw it when it first came out, but by the time I saw The Last Wish I had forgotten so much that I seriously thought Kitty Softpaws was a new character. The movie did such a good job establishing their relationship that I never felt like I'd missed anything.
I never saw puss in boots 1, and I physically recoiled when i learned kitty was in it, because she was established so cleanly and smoothly
I'd only ever seen sherk 1 & 2 before Last Wish and its so well contained and told that I never missed a step
Yeah, to my memory I've never seen Puss in Boots 2011 and didn't even realize there was another movie until a while later. It worked just fine on it's own!
I forgot about the other puss in boots products before I watched 'The Last Wish' and I can say, stand alone or series Last Wish is damn amazing
That’s what they were going for. An original stand alone adventure that works well all on its own and as a reintroduction of Shrek to the new generation
Wait, Farquad's dad is Grumpy of the Seven Dwarves? That.....could have gone so much worse if Farquad picked Snow White from the Magic Mirror.
Holy shit you’re so right
Why?
@@sharpeningtheaxe In the 3rd movie we see that Snow White has heart tattoo with Grumpy's name, implying a romantic history, and possible mother to Farquad.
@@doubledamn2599i thought it was dopey's name?
Even though "I'm a Believer" is _technically_ a Monkees song, I agree it's retroactively a Smash Mouth property with how iconic that version is.
I loved the Monkees as a kid in the 80s. Definitely thought of it when she said that but sometimes the cover just outshines the original 😅
2:42:00 Counterpoint: Charming was able to make it into the castle and up to Fiona exceptionally easy in Shrek 2 because Dragon wasn't present, we have no reason to assume that he wouldn't show up and get disintegrated by her like all the other knights that attempted and failed to rescue Fiona in the past before Shrek
while I do agree with this, there's also the reality that Fiona's tower imprisonment was orchestrated by fairy godmother and therefore rigged for charming to always succeed, aka maybe dragon was trained/enchanted to surrender to charming
I think the actual answer is Rumplestiltskin magicked her out of the tower to fulfill the deal he made with her parents.
@@saucytruffle4738then she wouldve been rescued by him way way wayyyy earlier and the first movie wouldn't be about shrek. itd be about prince charming taking the throne and his mom abusing power or somethin
Also, since Harold was killed that could have made the deal Null and Void.
@@karkadoram I misremembering or wasn't there something in there about when she comes of age? And that's why charming hadn't gone yet
I love the unbridled joy on display during the first couple movies.
i love talking about things that i love, and shrek (2001) is such a source of love!!!
haven't finished the video, can't wait to see what she thinks about the last wish
@@haleywhipjackso what you’re saying is… Shrek is love…
You currently have 666 likes so I'm gonna leave it as is
@@serenitymoon825 its been ruined, come back
It's done. I've finished. And all I have to show for it is a shrekspert certificate and a new vocal stim in "surely it wasn't the frog?"
I won a Shrek coloring contest at our local movie theater when Shrek 2 came out, I won free movie tickets. That has since completely affected my confidence as an artist, I have a small business now. Shrek is basically responsible for most of my artistic journey 😂
this movie is now a piece of shrek lore. it’s 49 hours now. this is revolutionary.
The Whiteboard Drawings - 10/10!
The Outfits - 10/10!
The term Shrekspert - 10/10!
The wall slowly getting filled with posters - 10/10!
The saying the year of the movie every time - 10/10!
The unhinged Unraveled energy - 10/10!
The way your cat was just so adorably purring and rubbing against you while you talked about The Three Diablos was perfectly adorable.
I like this video because you constantly seem to be sleep-deprived, at the verge of tears, or both. Really captures the spirit of Shrek
I would also like to put forth my theory on why in the Alternate Universe Prince Charming never rescued Fiona. My theory is that PC never really cared about Fiona, him and his mother only cared about him becoming prince and eventually King so once Fiona wasn't heir to the throne he'd have no reason to go save her.
That's a good reason why he wouldn't want to save her. I'd also say that without Shrek and Donkey going there, Dragon would still be guarding the tower. And we know who wins in the PC vs Dragon battle
Theres also the fact that didn’t Fiona’s parents end her curse with the deal? Meaning that Fiona became an ogre permanently?
Maybe that freaked her out and changed the timeline?
@@codymarshall587 that's what i thought happened, but apparently she's still cursed? i don't get it
The deal was to "Make all their problems go away", you can't have any problems if you no longer exist
I can imagine Fairy Godmother sending a message to her son via bird letter or a magic voicemail saying
"My dearest child, I regret to inform you that the slimy pathetic king of Far Far Away went back on our deal and gave up his kingdom to some wackjob with a magically binding contract that's too powerful even for my magic to counteract. Fall back and return to me, we'll have to find another royal bloodline to manipulate. As for the girl you can just let her rot in that tower for all the hardship her family put us through."
-Love Mommy ❤
Unexpected outcome of this video - Puss in Boots is a tragic hero who cannot escape the fate of losing everyone he loves.
That and the last wish is so incredible because there was literally a revolution in 3d digital animation during its development. And it shows! Its so cool!
it also kinda makes it seem like puss is the main character of the entire shrek universe and that shrek 2 and 3 were just sidequests he went on
@@unclekarl5219Shrek 1 was just a fun prequel/backstory for some puss in boots side characters
@@thatrantinggirl7376Shrek 1 is just a predecessor because it was the original release of anything in the franchise, not a prequel.
the definition of a prequel is something that comes out after the original or previous release but it chronologically takes place before it too.
I think one thing that was missed that after Fiona says she was sent away on a Christmas Eve, shrek says he was sent away on his birthday. And you see them cross paths in the beginning song. Meaning, his birthday day is Christmas Eve, making his indifference towards Christmas more deep when you think I about it.
1:04:35 Fun fact: hybrid species portmanteau names conventionally start with the sire's species first. That's why there's actually a distinction between a liger and tigon (in actual physical form too not just in name) even though both are half tiger half lion. So technically speaking, Donkey and Dragon's kids shouldn't be called dronkies or dragkies, they should be called either dongons or dogons.
Donkragons. Or assgons perhaps
Donkey and Dragon are T4T
i wasn't expecting to actually sit here for 5 hours and watch you talk, but you're so charming??? i was just gonna listen to some shrek rambling, but you're so genuinely amused by what you're talking about, it's so wholesome to watch.
Dissociation doesn't happen when you deep dive into the entire Shrek series to make a video. No, no... that's fine. The psyche barely even trembles, barely quavers. No, the dissociation hits when you realize that the video you made is almost enough time to watch the four main movies back to back.
2:24:07 okay hi this is such a minor thing to comment on BUT for the stained glass window that breaks in the Shrek Musical, it looks like to me (theatre person) that the backdrop is 3 layers. One layer is the the wall surrounding the window (or maybe this layer doesn't exist and I'm making that one up), the second layer is the complete window which is segmented into different parts, and the third layer is the broken window! The full window layer is on different pullies that pull the segments apart, leading into the broken window but still infinitely assembleable for each night. I know this particular explanation makes no sense but I'm 90% sure that's how it works. Thank you for the awesome video!!
OOo theater background knowledge! ❤
Oh my god the girl cat from the TV show is. So insane. Her proportions are so insanely different from Puss and it’s not only distracting it’s genuinely upsetting
Edit: also holy shit the original Shrek movie came out the day before I was born. Hells
Do you think that was the intention when she was designed, like the goblin kid with a neck, or did they retcon her being a tulpa to justify her looking Like That
To be fair to Puss and his long list of romantic interests, he DID live (or at least die) 8 lives. Not all True Love (TM) lasts through multiple lives.
The biggest plot twist was I was convinced I’d never seen Shrek Forever After and then, as you explained it, slowly realising I had in fact seen it and repressed every memory of doing so
I went to the Shrek Experience in London, and I have two things to note:
1. Rumplestiltskin is very much still a menace, he lives in the evil woods around Far Far Away
2. Thelonius is a face character who plays a role in torturing Pinocchio, he still has the Farquaad logo in his dungeon so idk his alliance
Once you get to about Shrek 4 you really start to give off "Drunk lady who cornered me at a party" vibes. It's a lovely video, thank you for your sacrifice.
How did you know I love multi-hour long dissections of stuff I know (but not completely) and want color commentary. This is amazing. You have done the internet a great service.
She isbt really dissecting any of it tgo....more of summaries
This is also my favorite thing
@@creativeink4407nah I’d say she is dissecting it as she goes, I like her analysis of Shreks’ insecurities
They really did Brian D'arcy James dirty with Shrek the Musical the man is an incredible actor also literally every farquad blooper no matter the production no matter the quality are always fantastic. A personal favorite is when his shoe/leg situation breaks so he uses the leg like a mic in a song
kind of messed up how an afterlife does provably exist in the Shrek universe, but at the same time your immortal soul can be utterly annihilated by dragonfire.
i will never forget the time i got into a taxi and the driver had jade statues of the buddha all over his headboard but with one sneaky little shrek in the exact same shade of green smack dab in the middle
2:42:10 I always assumed that the reason charming never rescued Fiona was because rescuing her would no longer make him king of far far away and that's the only reason he was going to in the first place. Since he would have originally showed up a couple weeks after she got rescued. In the timeline where The king and queen dissolved into Golden dust I assumed the fairy godmother who is in constant communication with Harold told her son not to go anymore
Do you really think Prince Charming is gonna beat Dragon? Hell no
my husband has NEVER seen shrek 2 and I need others to be HORRIFIED by this with me. I will be rectifying this immediately do not worry
Charming didn't save Fiona because Dragon barbacued him on sight. I thought this was obvious. Is this only my headcanon?
I watched this after I watched your Once Upon A Time: Season One video (which in and of itself I watched after being wildly obsessed with the show years ago) so the way that you felt about cameos in Puss In Boots: The Last Wish (2022) was exactly the way I felt whenever you said Rumpelstiltskin/Snow White/Prince Charming etc. Just like "ah! AH! THERE HE IS!" I felt like a video game character when they get an exclamation point over their head.
The “Pinocchio wasn’t filled in on the details of Shrek 4D so he’s only got rumors of Farquaad’s ghost” is funny because he was IN THE PRESHOW WITH THE GHOST! I don’t recall the details of the actual ride footage so maybe he’s worried since last he saw there was confirmed ghost and he doesn’t know he’s dealt with?
It's kind of hilarious how Dulcineas super stylized anatomy compared to Puss is actaually what makes her able to perform the ritual..😅
I mean her head is freakishly big so that's why she can wear the crown. And she only has 4 digits like a rubberhose cartoon character.
crazy. I wonder how that eneded up in the story.
"Prince Charming would have rescued Fiona" What about the Dragon Haley. You said it yourself, the dragon ALWAYS saves the day. You're telling me, mummies boy Prince Charming would have an even playing field against THE DRAGON. Tsk tsk
At 1:52:29 The Song that plays is not Ride of the Valkyries (which would be much better for this section), it is O Fortuna from the Carmina Burana. A song usually associated with despair and darkness. Weird choice for the Music….
This is beautiful. I'm so glad I was lured in by the FNAF video and then found this one. Multi-hour explorations of franchises are my favourite genre of video and it's about Shrek?? Yes.
Still in the process of watching and I love it so much, but I did want to give background on the preshow of Shrek 4-D for those who may not know! Basically, the premise was that The Three Little Pigs, Pinocchio, and Gingy were kidnapped and locked in the dungeon of Farquad's castle. We end up in the dungeon with them and the magic mirror, and get the background from Shrek (2001) as well as be introduced to the ghost of Farquad who is going to torture the fairy tale creatures to find out where Fiona is, and then decides that we'll also be tortured in the auditorium which is when we're let into the actual 4-D movie.
I also watched the adventures of puss in boots in a very short period of time last year after becoming hyperfixated on puss in boots from watching the last wish
whenever I think about this show I specifically remember the feeling of being home alone wearing a cardboard mustache from my frozen pizza sobbing while watching the last two episodes and feeling hollow when it was over because of how obsessive I was and now its gone and I had nothing left to do.
maybe dulcinea is dead bc she doesn't have nine lives rip
The thing about the miscommunication of the first movie is that even if Fiona didn't mean to, when she refers to herself as a horrible unlovable monster because she is an oger, it also means that she thinks Shrek is too. There is no difference. I remember my mom telling me as a kid that when we say we are ugly because of a characteristic (our nose,.our weight, our skin color...) We are calling every other person with that characteristic ugly. Whether we mean to or not. Fiona was talking about Shrek that way. Even if she didn't realize it or mean to.
The king hiring an assassin by going to criminal tavern is like if Darth Vader walked into Mos Eisley himself to hire a bounty hunter
As someone who had to watch Rear Window by Alfred Hitchcock for a film class back in high school, truly an absolutely masterful 1 to 1 accurate adaptation of Hitchcock’s work.
now I haven't seen the original, but I HAVE seen the Simpsons parody (S6E1 "Bart of Darkness") as well as the Home Movies parody (S4E11 "Definite Possible Murder") so I do consider myself an expert and based on those, it was also 1 to 1 accurate.
Are...are you me? Because I had to watch Rear Window for a high school film class just last year.
@@dangernoodledee111 lmao that’s where I saw it as well! I’m glad they’re still showing it in high schools, it’s a very fun film to watch & was one of the only ones in film class where I wasn’t bored out of my mind the whole time.
I love how when the king gets turned back into a frog and donkey goes “man and he was giving you a hard time the whole time” I cannot 😭 he’s an amazing best friend.
Here's an interesting Shrek fact I learned at Dollar Tree of all places. The dragons name is Elizabeth the Dragoness. So Dollar Tree has these little figurines of characters from movies and other popular media, and they had figures for Shrek. On the packaging of each character is their name. These are officially licensed figures too. The strangest way to learn Shrek facts. 😆
I recently watched a video, I think by Cinema Therapy, about Shrek. At one point they showed a scene where Dragon was grunt/roaring in response to something (I think it was in Shrek 3) and the subtitles on the video said something like “Elizabeth roars”.
I had to pause and go “Elizabeth?! She has a name?!!!” So, yeah, it’s weird how one comes across information like that. lol 😅
I kinda want those figures now.
in Shrek 2 when they pass out from drinking the happily ever after potion, Donkey yells "I'm coming, Elizabeth!"
I've always assumed it was a reference I wasn't getting but I guess he was just calling out to his wife.
Starting laughing too hard at 2:11:59 when kitty starts biting Haleys arm and she doesn't react at all 😂
I... am not sure what I just watched. And I definitely did not remember everything in the Shrek Movies. But my goodness, do I appreciate Haley's dedication to making us all Shreksperts. She could drag me to the ends of the earth if she so desired and I would not complain once. I have dedicated well over 600 hours of my life to Haley Whipjack. I am obsessed with this content. And some how I never realized how much there was to learn. And now I am rambling because of the five hours that I have watched going from Shrek to Puss in Boots for a movie that probably won't come into existence. But who are we kidding? None of us watched this for Shrek 5. We watched this because Haley has an innate talent to make anything entertaining.
An FYI for Shrek the Musical, I've seen it 3 times live (I was young and obsessed) and there is a variation of the show that happened (at least in the UK tour for whatever year I was seeing it) where they didn't have any children in the cast. Instead of the opening song having Shrek and his parents as well as young Fiona, it had adult Shrek and Fiona sticking their heads in and out of a story book and singing the song. I Know It's Today also replaced the young and teenage Fiona with puppets, but not puppets of Fiona, just generic princess puppets. Fiona was just a puppeteer for the one song and then it was never brought up again. She puppeteered a whole chorus of puppets and it was just forgotten about after that one song. The Dragon's song was also not Donkey Pot Pie in this version, and was another song called Forever as you mentioned which I personally think is worse than Donkey Pot Pie, so there is another version of the show that is probably floating around out there on the internet somewhere.
I think the Shrek 2 castle storming scene is genuinely one of the best pieces of cinematography ever created.
The thing that freaks me out is just HOW MUCH of this stuff I watched as it came out. It helped that as a kid I had the DVDs at my dad’s house, no satellite or cable, and way too much time on my hands dedicated to doing anything but going outside
Since Harold turned out to be..well... a frog, does that imply that Lillian has the only legitimate claim to the throne? Harold would have married INTO Far Far Away royalty, especially since Artie is related to Fiona on *her mother's side* . Yeah, Lillian got screwed in this.
I always assumed that Lillian was grieving and didn't want to take the throne!
Pied Piper: Plays old traditional arabian riff, which was then sampled to "Streets of Cairo"
Haley Whipjack: ...KE$HA
I like to think that frog Harold was being held up by someone and knighted people with a teeny tiny sword.
Shrek the third is beautiful TO ME there is literally no way it could have every followed up shrek 2 no matter what
!! nothing will top the snow white and birds x immigrant song scene. taika waititi WISHES
I didn't know I needed a 5 and a half hour video essay on the Shrek Cinematic Universe, but I did, and thank you. And thank you RUclips for knowing me better than I know myself.
I love how you described Shrek (2001) in such an emotional way that it made me all teary near the end of the recap. You are a master.
Rumplestiltskin is like a trickster right? A con artist? So maybe Rumplestiltskin is like an alias that various con artists use
@haleywhipjack I have found a citation! The official Shrek Babysitting Game, “Shrek: Ogres and Dronkeys” names the five present Dronkeys. Eclair remains at large.
1:14:46 I personally think that after the fairy God mother died, the only thing that was properly left for him to inherit was the potion factory, since while she was wealthy, the majority of her power and control came from her reputation, and interpersonal connections with important figures, those connections being presumably in the same vein as her connection to Prince Harold being that she was able to keep them under pressure, and served as their providers, as she was the one keeping them in high status. Since those connections were related to her, and were specifically between her and the people she had connections to, after she died, those secrets died with her. Prince charming is also pretty incompetent, and has no importance on his own since he was more of a bargaining chip than anything, and was being used for the sake of getting closer to the throne. He doesn't know Jack shit about how to use magic or operate it, and while he does learn a bit more throughout shrek three, he mainly gets others to use it for him. With this and the fact that he didn't manage jack shit, and was just sucking up to his mother his whole life, I think that when he got the potion factory, he sucked at managing the place, and with the damages caused to both the stock, and machinery of the place, not to mention the reimbued sense of worker rights put in the receptionist, I fully feel that three years was way more than enough for the potion industry he inherited to crumble away in his hands.
Years ago I was working front-of-house at a theatre that received the UK tour of Shrek: The Musical, so I got paid to "watch" it (being inside the venue to watch the audience). There honestly wasn't much that I remember liking about it, but one of my favourite moments seems to not be in the version you saw- in Act 2 where Farquaad rolls up on his horse to meet Fiona, instead of "Plastic Horse", he calls "Whoooaah, Fibreglass!"
Um.... so.... without a better explanation... my only implication is that... fiona was cursed to be an ogre at night as some sort of side effect of Human Lily and Frog Harold having a child
2:42:30 If we recall the plot by the godmother, the point of charming rescuing fiona was for him to rule over FFA. with Fiona's parents unexisted and stiltskin now owning FFA charming would have no reason to save her.
If he still decided to try to save her, we also see in shrek 2 that Fiona simply doesn't like Charming, and i'm willing to bet she still wouldnt if he was the one to save her.
1) I guess you could chalk Prince Charming not coming to rescue Fiona in Shrek 4 down to him finding out that not only that Harold and Lillian got Thanosed but that they signed the kingdom away so if he went through with rescuing Fiona, he wouldn't even get a kingdom out of it. He and the Fairy Godmother probably got killed trying to scam Rumpelstiltskin.
2) If we never see the 6th Dronkey again, did Donkey and Dragon loose a child in the 3 years between Shreks 2 and 3? Donkey using his trademark humor to mask the tragedy and distract people and keep them happy? What if it happed in one of the convoluted chaos sequences
3) What is important to note is that the Zombies we see in the Thriller Video is that we see Zombies of characters did not die along with characters who did. Therefore Mungo is fine, it was all Shrek's dream.
4) I'm choosing to believe The Adventures of Puss In Boots is a fictional story which Puss is telling to Shrek and Donkey's kids. Probably because a lot of the actual stories about him are about him stealing or are to violent or just otherwise, not very PG. Hey remember when Puss was introduced as an assassin and an Ogre killer? Imagine telling that to Felicia, Fergus and Farkel.
Hey so I had a lot of artwork to finish today for my job and I decided I would NOT stop or give up until this video was done. I almost quit at the puss in boots part, but didn't. And I finished my work. Just wanted to thank you, five hours here felt like a success and I can only IMAGINE the amount of work you put into this. You're really charming and fun to listen to, so thank you!!!!
I just wanted to say at 1:51:25 that’s O Fortuna not Ride of the Valkeries. Really loving the video it’s so nice to see someone so passionate about worldbuilding in a narrative. Warms my little writers heart 😂❤
It's a bit of an odd choice as well, at least how she framed it. It might make more sense in context, but with just what she showed Ride would fit a little better
You genuinely have one of the most pleasing voices I have ever heard
I was really surprised to see how much people hate shrek the third because as a kid it was my favorite one! I watched it over and over. Then I watched your review and now I understand (if we’re getting specific the one I watched over and over was the Christmas short)
"Go watch the Holding Out for a Hero scene right now."
Done. I'm back.
I like how there are bandaids on different fingers during this. What were you doing, Haley? Also, "I'm a Believer" was written by Mike Nesmith and performed by The Monkees! Smashmouth just covered it later. Also, THANK YOU tor reviewing all of this... stuff
I think charming didn't rescue fiona cause
1. She wasnt a princess anymore so why would he bother
2. Dragon was there this time in shrek 2 dragon was gone
But i will say i dont understand why fiona is still cursed cause wasnt the deal with fionas parents to lift her curse it seemed like they just signed a contract to lose everything and literally gain nothing
I actually think the idea that Fionna was at her Absolute Limit™ like 3 days before she was finally going to be rescued after 23 YEARS is really funny. Although I guess it's possible that word got back to her about her PARENTS DISSOLVING and her kingdom being given to Rumplestiltskin...so maybe that's why she left the tower?
I HAVE ANSWERS ABT DONKEY AND DRAGON'S KIDS! Their names are established in the Nintendo DS game Shrek: Ogres and Dronkeys (2007) which was basically a Nintendogs clone but with babysitting and Shrek. I had it as a kid and it was pretty unmemorable but when you mentioned Parfait I had a that's so raven vision remembering this stupid game so yeah
Listening to the aopib recap felt like the way I feel explaining an overly complicated DND session to my partner. Genuinely amazing video, I cannot believe I watched 5 and a half hours in one sitting without using 2x times speed. It was just genuinely that engaging
The Adventures of Puss in Boots: "Reject found family, accept heteronormativity."
Shrek 2 (2004)'s "Holding Out For A Hero" scene is inarguably a top 10 scene in film. Foot to the floor, straight fucking gas beginning to end. Unmatched
RUclips has been recommending me this video for over a month and I kept not watching it even though it's exactly the type of thing I'd watch.
I looked up "once upon a time retrospective" on RUclips 2 days ago and your video on it was the first to pop up. Imagine my surprise when you mentioned the 44 hours of Shrek video.
I regret not trusting youtubes recommendation from the start. This was great.
Loved every second of it except that part at the beginning when you said Donkey was commenting and complementing Shreks swamp, then showed Donkey saying "i like that boulder, that's a nice boulder" because that is not at all the order that happened in. I thought about that the entire 2 days it took me to watch this.
Other than that, 10/10.
I feel personally attacked by the opening line on Far, Far, Away Idol. I definitely spent way too much time watching it. 😭
This and the Brother Bear games took an excessive amount of my childhood free time
This is more like "I watched 44 hours of Shrek (so you should too). It's making me want to go back and watch the movies so bad.
the difference in donkey kids numbers is easily explained in shrek 3; its a new batch of kids, dude is making babys every chance he gets
"My mental health means nothing to me in the face of Shrek"
mood
The portion with Christmas makes sense when one considers that the fairy godmother talked about the king having been in the crusades like Haley said…
Yup. And considering we see Robin Hood in the first film we can actually use the chronology of those stories to state that the film take place some time between 1190-1194 A.D
Though Christmas wasn't like the modern American amalgamation of traditions at that time. So it is still a bit off