Tellervision GP101 keyboard review (Alps SKBM White)
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2020
- Skip to 6:03 for a typing demonstration.
Today we look at a horrible keyboard; the Tellervision GP101. It's mostly okay in many ways, but comes with a horrible layout that would make a Lovecraftian spawn of evil look friendly and cute. Bad luck for me that I had to use it for a whole week!
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The practice sentence was: "Hello my name is Thomas and I'm typing on a Tellervision keyboard right now. This thing can go flying fuck itself, I never want to use or see this piece of shit again!" 
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This keyboard was originally used by bank tellers, hence the name. Most were mounted on poles in a slanted position at the drive-through window. They were meant mainly for peck-style typing with one hand and were used to pull up customer records, etc. I have one that I got about a year ago on eBay. Originally, I thought that there could be modules in them that could be spun around but no such luck.
True , all the important keys are arranged close. As a bank teller 90% of the time you don't need to enter letters, numbers yes. Cheers
I was thinking that as I was looking at it. I worked in a bank many years ago, and you're really only typing numbers, tabbing between fields and mousing occasionally. It also explains why there is a second backspace key above the numeric keypad. I don't think it's really fair to blame the designers as from experience it actually seems pretty well thought out and fit for purpose. Outside of that role though, then yes, it's pretty useless.
I can just imagine the donator giggling at the frustration. 🤭
I'm sure he is - in fact, he's sending me more horrible shite soon xD .
@@Chyrosran22 What a meanie!
@@Chyrosran22 50 shades of keyboards
Wow. He found an alps keyboard he didn't like. I am impressed.
Well there was the Alps integrated dome board that made it onto the worst switches video.
@@JackOfHarts96 he also hates alps dome with slider and skfr
I'm going to go out on a limb and say this was meant for bank tellers. Hence, "Tellervision." Using older teller programs, you will use the number keys and function keys a lot and the alpha keys very little. The real question is why would this be more usable to a teller than a standard keyboard?
I bet it was made like this because a numpad and prominent f-keys were needed, but a standard keyboard would be too long. So they went with this somewhat cash register-y one.
Came here to say the same. As a former bank teller, this machine looks fairly useful. All you really need is a numpad with "+" and "-". Touchpad, navcluster, and F-keys are a nice addition. Tellers rarely have to type alphanumeric.
@@Raatcharch And if you're going to input something manually, because a barcode doesn't work or it doesn't have a barcode (like fruits), then they usually use numeric codes. - I, who has worked as a teller, don't see the point of these codes as it's quicker to just type "banana" than trying to look up what that code was.
It think it's for space saver, but don't tellers also do some of customer name, address, or stuffs typing? I mean, it's also essential.
@@nathanlamaire You can get away without typing many letters at all, especially if everyone is using deposit/withdrawal slips.
2:14 - this is the best one compared to many other times he's said it like that
Given that it's called teller vision I'm guessing it's designed for bank tellers were they work in cramped spaces and used the numpad a lot more often than the alpha keyboard. Could be wrong but that would explain the design.
I was thinking something for television production. The special layout could be for something that controls the lower third bars, where you only need to type the name out once, and then use the other keys to change between presets.
Ah yes, a keyboard designed by someone who has never even heard of touch typing.
*a keyboard designed by someone who has never heard of a keyboard.
Ah yes, a comment designed by someone who has never heard of a TELLER!! 🤦♂️
I’m a self taught hybrid typist, touch typing actually made me slower when I was doing typing class so after I got out of that prison (school) I just typed however I felt.
@@EmergencyChannel Touch typing does make you slower initially but over time it will make you better.
The main functionality of one of these things in service would be from the F-keys and the numpad. The keyboard is literally meant to be hunt-and-pecked to enter the occasional name, product code or whatever when its compulsory barcode/mag-strip reader companion doesn't work.
Also often mounted at ~30-45 degree angles for clerks either standing or on a high stool. Certainly more usable there than on a normal table.
Honestly if I had some kind of control computer for a CNC or whatever this sort of thing would be a nice, self-contained input device for light standing use.
im going to use “incapable of life knob-head” as an insult someday
Of all the people I expected to be in this comment section Intel Edits was not one of them
You're the king of rare insults.
Eyy, Twokinds!
@@Hionimi yee! It's awesome
I appreciate you being a furry weeb thats very cool and valid! Don't listen to that shitty person in the comments making fun of you.
@@babypinksnail lmao thank you, tbh I kinda laughed at that when I first saw it lol
And yes, i'm actually a furry. And I guess I could be called a weeb
@@rory_posting Furries are fine by me. Have a good day! :3
I love hitting every single F key when I'm typing.
That's the best "WANING" I've ever seen
Going by the name of the thing, it may have been a bank teller's keyboard. In that case, the layout makes more sense, as input would have been primarily numerical; with function keys and cursor keys to select options on the screen. It's probably easier to use tilted at an angle. For its intended purpose it may be quite good. Though having pad-printed legends is a terrible idea on a dedicated work keyboard. They'd be forever replacing the key-caps with manufacturer supplied custom ones. Built-in obsolescence?
Yeah, I had exactly the same thought: it is made for using the numpad and F-keys primarily, and only write stuff occasionally. The layout makes _some_ sense with that use in mind, but some of the design choices (such as the printscreen etc in the bottom row) still boggles the mind.
Using this for light gaming should be doable though, I'd guess?
I'd try using 5, 1, 2, 3 on the numpad instead of wasd for example. (would need to shift the keyboard quite a bit to the side though.
Yeah I thought Chyros was a little unfair in this one, I can see it working just fine from a standing or high-seated position, mainly number input and occasional text entry. Shame about the caps though.
@@GurtTarctor You didn't have to use it for a week, mate xD .
Probably with dedicated software.
Maybe try propping it up at a 30-45 degree angle. I use some interfaces that would be absolute cancer in a horizontal format, but make sense in the vertical.
If I had to guess this keyboard was made for cash registers or bank tellers hens the Teller part of Tellervision, were the num-pad would be the most used part and the F-keys are used for choosing options in a menu. With the rest is there just in case such as a customer signing up for a credit card or membership/rewards program.
Surprised this wasn't more prominently displayed. Its obviously for people who are using a POS system or the like where typing is far less necessary than a numpad.
That warning is hilarious. Also what are the switches recorded in the intro?
I think they're skcm blue... I forget which board though. He mentioned it in a video a long time ago... maybe the Omnikey?
@@voodoolilium Acer KB101A
@@0name933 woah I was totally off haha
Don't you mean WANING?
That shape, the moment I saw it, I was like "Ooh goodness, that LAYOUT, alps are not saving this."
It's one of those reviews again...
Thanks for suffering for us
Awww one of those delightful Chyros ranty videos... What a perfect way to start the weekend!!!
Can't wait for Thomas to review MiniPET's 1st revision bundled keyboard.
1:43 what switches are those?
Is seems I have this type of simplified Alps switches, they ok, but in case there are no slits, upstroke is very loud, and click is so quiet, almost impossible to hear! I’m thinking of replacing with new ones. Which advise?
*WANING*
Sign of an excellent review
That warning screen is so fucking accurate though, it legitimately serves its purpose perfectly
If I was to guess this keyboard was mounted in a vertical position on a panel somewhere.
The right side's bottom row on the alpha keyboard is easily explained because it's the top row of a regular numpad that wouldn't fit the layout they chose for the bottom part , with an additional Tab to move between numeric input fields.
This is a brilliant video. Brilliant.
Aren't these old banking keyboards? I was going to pick one up not long ago with the trackpad and other buttons on the top, rather than the bottom.
as soon as i saw this keyboard in the thumbnail i knew this would be a good video. the "waning" before the video confirmed it
Some of those key placements may have made sense, but what was the logic behind swapping the PageUp/Down keys with the Del/Insert key?
Is that a Buckling Spring Planck keyboard!?
Demonitization gold. I love it!
No, this is something better: This is a video by a man who _doesn't care_ about demonetisation!
That one reminds me of a a keyboard you would see on a cnc plasma cutter or milling machine. Though I've not seen one that wasn't built in.
Anyone know a keyboard that looks like this one with Modern day Switches?
My guess is that this is a video editor board or an other job related tool, which wasn't meant for long typing sessions other than writing file names.
It’s a bank teller keyboard, not a video editing board. Most banking software is either still command line based or has a keyboard driven UI that uses lots of function keys and arrows for fast navigation and relies very little on the letter keys. It’s a super narrow use case that would almost certainly infuriate someone in any other industry, but it’s quite well designed for its intended use case
Imagine this with smith corona leaf springs, would you even be able to use it for 5 minutes?
Finally a new review of SKBM
Only thing I can think of is that this is designed for a very niche numerical/spreadsheet input use, like manually translating numerical data into a spreadsheet from a paper copy or something.
I.e. for its intended use you will almost exclusively be using the bottom section and only occasionally need the letter keys. Probably with some kind of macros set up on the F keys.
The layout makes sense as a supermarket or a banker's keyboard. Most of the times they're standing instead of sitting down and they would use the numbers and the trackpad way more than the keyboard
My expectations were high, and I was not disappointed
The best intro ❤
im getting a keyboard with skbm whites too and a trackpad but its not as fucked up layout so hope i will be happy with it
i have thought about getting some keyboard like this and just chopping off the bottom....then you get a 60%
15 sec of video and i already liked and know that i will see a quality content
The function keys are fascinating. Normal keyboards have three groups of four, right? So when you're arranging keys in a three by four grid, there's a natural layout you'd pick so they end up grouped naturally? Unless you're Tellervision, where you pick the other one...
Was that a Model F Planck!?
That spacebar row is a complete disaster.
amazing, truly amazing design.
What yahoo thought putting the alphanumeric block so far away was a good idea?
Someone designing a cash register?
My guess is hat this is used in an environment where one uses the nav cluster and numpad as well as the bottom row most of the time and the "normal" keyboard is used just oocasionally.
floating hands technique is tiring. You might be able to fix it by covering up the lower half area with a HHKB roof so that you can rest your wrists on it
Conrad Verner excellent idea.....then you would have to remove it any time you wanted to use the trackpad making it even more annoying
Which keyboard do you prefer, this one or the Datalux? xD
Difficult to say, but I think the Datalux is probably worse on account of its switches.
0:10 - He is speaking the Language of the Gods
They even switched around the Del, Ins, Page up and down. Like.... whyyyy!!
This keyboard is the reason Teller sees all the tricks on Penn & Teller Fool Us
1:45 Is it just me or did that sound like a buckling spring board?
i imagine the use case for this was some sort of point of sale with space constraints. id guess the user would be standing, and would hardly ever need to use the qwerty section. probably some specialized software that made heavy use of the number pad and F keys.
I almost feel like hunting for the worst keyboard possible just so I could send it to you and watch the glory that unfolds
You appear to not be the only one xD .
1:41 Nice way to give a preview on that board. I can't tell what it is, but the sound of the switches has definitely got me interested.
@Wizzy Wambo Possibly. They're higher pitched than the typical Model M membrane buckling springs, but also seems less noisy than Model F capacitive buckling springs. My guess would be that its some kind of sampler for InputClub's Silo beam spring switches.
@Wizzy Wambo It could be some sort of rough testbed from IC themselves. That wire on the side looks like some kind of grounding, for example. Could also be why Thomas seems to be having a hard time getting it to work. That said, it could be an altogether different switch from any I've mentioned.
was that small keyboard a model f?
Hmmmmaybe 8) .
its not meant for gaming or typing. its meant for tellers and cashiers. it probably had a thick clear protector over the thing with shortcuts actions on the f numbers. meaning the only things you use are the f keys, the num pad, maybe the trackpad and arrow keys, and rarely the keyboard which was just there for the pc it was connected to to get you into the cashier program.
Yo dog, when are you going to do another switch teardown?
I'm not sure tbh! xD
Will you get to test the Wooting Lekker Edition?
I hope so! XD
@@Chyrosran22 I can't wait for the review!
i can't believe the the feature i want in numpads the most, the backspase key near it, it is here and it is absolutely useless.
"At least I get to enjoy freshly SQUEEZED poop". The best line.
"Freshly squeezed poop". The utmost highest compliment, lol.
At least someone cloned SKBM switches.
We'd better get a damn SKCM clone soon or I'm gonna lose my shit waiting.
That keyboard was meant to be used in a vertical position I guess. Preferably for target practice.
Can only guess, this must have been made for some very specialty niche, such as clerks who input numbers all day long and only occasionally need to enter alpha text--or something like that. And for whom horizontal desk space is at a premium.
Not going to lie, I don't ever use my right-alt, so turning it into a backspace where my right thumb can hit it would be grand.
Fellow Geekhacker. YESSSS. So glad I stumbled upon this channel by chance chyros
I take it that you’re not impressed. The keyboard may be crap, but your review of it is a masterpiece.
I don't know, A chainsaw, mettle snips and some RGB lighting -- and this could be modified into a very nice paperweight.
I think this keyboard was probably designed to be mounted vertically, so it's not exactly meant to be a standard typing experience.
Hmm, yeah. I could see it being hung on the wall next to some big industrial machine. Or sitting in a cradle on the side of the machine, so it can be easily replaced when it gets worn out.
That keyboard is like plank exercise but for arms.
Definitely meant for bank tellers and places like checkout stands. These sorts of environments often don't even HAVE alphanumerics if they can avoid it. This is where you get a lot of the alphabetical layouts as well.
Works for what it's made for - Bank teller keyboard
I'm actually after stuff like this and EPOS keyboards.
1:08 Well, it seems sure that this, like the Datalux ruclips.net/video/Qs8VRTcff_0/видео.html, was meant for the kind of teller windows you get in banks, post offices and so on. They're usually very short on horizontal space, and what space there is is sorely needed for handling documents and cash. Very likely the software in use at those stations was, despite all that, cheerfully written with a mainframe/MS-DOS mentality that makes auxiliary keys essential for routine tasks, so you can see why designers were willing to go to extremes to keep the full Model M keyset while cutting the width. And given that tellers probably spend relatively little of their keyboard time on the alpha cluster, any problems in that area likely aren't as bad as they would otherwise be. Anyway, this is probably also why the cable is so long. Those teller desks are permanently fixed, are often high and tend to have the cable hole far away in the corner, so a long cable probably helps to make certain that it can reach to the tower PC sitting on the ground below.
The changes made to the detailed layout 2:44 are indeed pretty garbage. It seems that moving the clusters was as much effort as the designers could be bothered to go to and they just quickly bodged everything to fit in the available space. I'm not sure why the overall stacked layout caused quite that much trouble 2:16 though. If you put your fingers on the number keys, let alone the Fn keys, on an ordinary keyboard you're already leaving most of your hands stretched over the alpha cluster. I suppose the extra stretch out to reach the GP101's alpha keys may make it harder to keep the wrists high enough. I guess that ledging the alphanumberic cluster up a few mm above the others would likely have made it a lot easier to keep the wrists clear, though there could have been some problems with that, including regulations and the designers' fatal inability to be bothered. It would also be possible to use low-profile keycaps on the other clusters, but that would partly defeat the intention to make the non-alpha clusters pleasant to use regularly (though splitting the numpad vertically already did _that_ ...)
It's in the name. It's a Bank Teller Keyboard. Whatever you do don't tell him about the eKrypto STKB Compact.
"Look at that bottom row!" He said when he saw her derriere ;)
And no mention of the sixblock being messed up (I'm probably like the 100th person to mention that) :D
Those red nuckles.. Did you take up bar fighting?
The video is well done. I wouldn't use that thing even if they paid me. Well.. 2 million GBP, maybe...
I still would prefer my Bastron Glass Keyboard to that.
Haha the company name is gorgeous. "Teller" means dish in german, usualy a plate. Making it look like someone intentionally misspelled Television.
But I realy like that keyboard layout! This would be the most perfect remote for the PC that connects to my TV. I want one!!!!
Now _that's_ an inventive use for the thing!
The “Warning” means it’s gonna be a hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhilarious keyboard review 😉
2:16 Man breaks sound barrier with minimal assistance from a terrible keyboard. (Circa 2020)
Is it just me, or does he sound like Vargskelethor Joel at 3:40?
We need Phil Swift to saw this board in half
I lost it at "f*ck it the flaps*. good on ya mate.
If they had just made the upper half a normal 60% it would have been slightly more functional.
Someone who makes more money than me had to look at this thing, say "Yeah, that looks fine" and sign off on it in order for it to enter production.
No to masz komentarz dla statystyk. Teraz testuje nowy tablet i rysik jak w nim działa. Calowym przyjemna sprawa
This keyboard is likely designed for Point-Of-Sale use!
POS systems (and yes, both of the readings of that acronym are very valid when talking about these) use "unusual" keys like F-keys and numpad far more often than the QWERTY section, making it logical to put these two parts front and center. I'm surprised that the keycaps on the F-key section are not the transparent top type, since you often see labels put on these anyway.
I .... I think you finally have a video with sufficient swearing to my tastes. Fuck it in the flaps!
Hey, if you hate it so much, you should send it to me. I've got plenty of boards to trade
You're also missing the point of this keyboard. It's all in the name. It's for tellers, who hardly ever use numeric keys. This layout would be very beneficial to them.
This must be painful to type on for a while.
The only thing i can think of to justify this thing is that it was supposed to be a terminal for some sort of bank or economical related work for which numpad, navpad and trackpad with the f keys (where f could as well mean fuck) are more used than the alphabetical part. Anyway it doen't quite explain why they made such an incomplete numpad
if only they reverted the design... I guess it was designed with some specific kind of work in mind, something where you don't have to write constantly but you mostly input numbers and use the trackpad
6:05 that painfully typing
That warning lmao crying
Hmm... Given the name, I bet the layout is designed for point-of-sale applications, where you're going to be navigating menus and entering numbers all the time, but rarely entering text and assuming the users are all hunt-and-peck typists.
"...GP-101 is an excellent keyboard solution for financial and banking type of applications."