Nice to see a pack review that doesn't just devolve into an inventory of what guys carry in it. I'm glad it doesn't have a built in water bottle pouch, I prefer packs that are more modular and allow me to decide how to configure it.
I’ve used this pack for many years and it is still rock solid. I use for an everyday work bag and use it very often for my overnight camp bag for my hammock. Love it and I’ll be buried with it.
I got the same slingpack same color. I use for work I have a condor water pouch on the side. And I attached 2 pouches on the main molle side of the pack. I carry my lunch an drinks and everything I need. True it needs a dedicated water pouch. Overall I've used this pack on trips and as a edc. I'm happy with it.
I have this same bag in Double Tap. I also utilize the Condor Water Bottle carrier attached to the side and have had zero issues in over a year in this configuration. Occassionally, if I'm taking a little more gear, I use the Tier Straps and use the Double Tap 2 Banger Bag attached to the front. Very versatile day pack.
Regarding it not having an external water bottle pouch: That is the beauty of MOLLE webbing. You can attach a water bottle pouch, or other accessory, to the MOLLE system!
I'm waiting for a 5.11 sale! In 2017 I bought the Rush 12 which I find very useful for traveling, but it's a little large for a day pack. I get lots of complaints from friends that it's too big. First, is it really any of their business!LOL I added a liter water bottle holder which adds width to the pack. I also purchased a canteen/cooker set with Mollie that I can set up for day hikes and a dump bag for collecting wild goodies. Anyway I need a smaller pack was thinking of the MOAB 6 but it's too blocky and can't hold a laptop. Also, I like that the Rush MOAB 10 has webbing for outerwear.
The Velcro mesh pockets on the main compartment aren’t opened from either side for ambidextrous carry. Each side of the Velcro mesh pockets are separated into their own individual compartments. The zipper part though, is definitely ambidextrous.
Yes, it's the sandstone color and it does favor slightly more on the green side than the brown side. Just for reference, Maxpedition's khaki color matches almost exactly to the 5.11 sandstone color.
I own one in this color. I bought a US mil surplus canteen with pouch in "coyote" and attached it to the molle webbing on the front of the bag. The colors match so well it looks like it came that way stock.
very thorough review. and a big thumps up to that! Please allow me to raise 2 questions to you and your viewers . What is the idea of sling packs? Why a sling pack? Try to answer that before you continue reading. Now that you have your answers, let's see if yours match mine. 1. sling packs are obviously designed for smaller, kind of EDC items. it gives you access to the items without removing it from your body. 2. as far the as the Why goes, it's the weight distribution and the maneuverability. The concepts are all good on papers, right? It seems so, but I'll not have any slings, again. Have a look at a sling's closest rival, a messenger style bag, and you'll know what I mean. Messenger bags, in general, are designed for a much looser fit, which means all the weight is handled by 1 side of the shoulders and that's it. A sling is supposed to transfer some of that weight onto your back, so theoretically speaking, it should be more comfortable, and you can run with it, since the pack contours your body. Wrong! While the idea of weight distribution works to a certain extent, all of the slings come with a different setback, namely the shoulder strap. sling packs fit the wearer's body diagonally, and to achieve that weight distribution, and maneuverability so you can run with the bag on you back, it has to be pulled closer to the body. At some point, you'll find the shoulder strap digging into your neck. try swinging it. let's say, 10 times back and forth. and you'll notice a mild pain right where the strap digs into your neck. Of course, this problem can be remedied with a polo shirt, or any garments with some level neck collar. To get rid of that pain, you're gonna have to loosen it a bit, and the idea of weight distribution and maneuverability is eliminated. Don't even get me started on the orientation of the pockets. Most slings are fabricated with pockets vertically oriented. that's why none of them can accommodate a water bottle. you put the items in vertically, but when you swing it to the front, you have to get them out horizontally. Isn't that kind of awkward to you guys? For me, it's definitely is. I used to have a moab 10, but I had to sell it because of the aforementioned reasons. Now, I'll go with small-medium sized messengers over the slings, in a heart beat. smaller messengers will mitigate your temptation to load it with 80 pounds of gear, the pockets keep their orientation both on your back and front so your items stay where they are, they come with a pocket, if not 2, for your water bottles, most of them are now decked out with a stabilizer strap across your hips to secure them in place, hence, you can kind of move freely with the pack out of the way. that's just my overall opinion. Don't let that prevent you from getting a sling. If you prefer the feel, and the look those, sling it! For me, I think I'm better off with a small size messenger pack.
Thanks a lot for the full and useful explanation. I already have a messenger bag from 5.11. however I am using more often my bike to move in the city. I love taking my Nikon camera with me when I ride, therefore the messenger bag has very limited space. I would like to ask you, Do you think on the Moab 10, a 13 inch laptop would fit inside with a camelbak (undertanding the risk of water aside to my laptop) and on the front could have space to my DSLR camera? Thanks in advance.
@@angex79 I don't think the laptop can fit nice and snugly . moab 10: height approx 46cm, length: approx 23 cm. a typical 13in laptop's length is 24cm. Maybe if you force it hard enough, it can get in, but it's gonna be a very tight fit. the bag has more space than you need for the camera and reservoir. A sling can carry a 13in laptop + space for camera and water-reservoir-compatible? You might want to look at the Vanquest Javelin for your loadout . it's big enough for your laptop, since you're carrying a camera, the bag has a system of dividers ( separate purchase) for all the lens, accessories, and whatnot.
@Jason Sinatra That's awesome. I guess packs in general are like clothes. we need to try them on to see how they fit. Unfortunately the Moab 10 is not really the best fit for me. If it's working for you, stick with your system.
I use a sling pack because of my commute, I can just spin it around into my lap when I take a seat on the train instead of taking it off like a backpack.
Nice video but I don’t get why so many people don’t know the difference between a pocket and a pouch. I mean do you call the pocket son your pants as pouches? A pouch would be what one would attach with molle to pals webbing.
Nice to see a pack review that doesn't just devolve into an inventory of what guys carry in it. I'm glad it doesn't have a built in water bottle pouch, I prefer packs that are more modular and allow me to decide how to configure it.
I’ve used this pack for many years and it is still rock solid. I use for an everyday work bag and use it very often for my overnight camp bag for my hammock. Love it and I’ll be buried with it.
Actually the mesh pockets are 4 independent pockets, they don't pass through (at least not on mine). Thank you for the video!
Thank you for the detailed review! Showing the individual compartments and pouches was very helpful
I love this bag! It's the perfect size, and has everything I need. My only con is the price...
It’s of impeccable quality so for 105 dollars i feel like it’s a good deal.
I got the same slingpack same color. I use for work I have a condor water pouch on the side. And I attached 2 pouches on the main molle side of the pack. I carry my lunch an drinks and everything I need. True it needs a dedicated water pouch. Overall I've used this pack on trips and as a edc. I'm happy with it.
10-4, thanks for the report and sounds like you're maximizing its use.
I have this same bag in Double Tap. I also utilize the Condor Water Bottle carrier attached to the side and have had zero issues in over a year in this configuration.
Occassionally, if I'm taking a little more gear, I use the Tier Straps and use the Double Tap 2 Banger Bag attached to the front. Very versatile day pack.
Regarding it not having an external water bottle pouch: That is the beauty of MOLLE webbing. You can attach a water bottle pouch, or other accessory, to the MOLLE system!
Actually good video
Both packs missing anti sway strap thanks to 511
You left out the extra straps on the 10 moab
Storm is grey color double tap is grey with black webbing 5 colors because they also do OD.
I'm waiting for a 5.11 sale! In 2017 I bought the Rush 12 which I find very useful for traveling, but it's a little large for a day pack. I get lots of complaints from friends that it's too big. First, is it really any of their business!LOL I added a liter water bottle holder which adds width to the pack. I also purchased a canteen/cooker set with Mollie that I can set up for day hikes and a dump bag for collecting wild goodies. Anyway I need a smaller pack was thinking of the MOAB 6 but it's too blocky and can't hold a laptop. Also, I like that the Rush MOAB 10 has webbing for outerwear.
Excellent video and a great overview of the pack. I like the breakdown of the pros and cons. Well done! Scott
Thanks brother, I appreciate your feedback!
Love your video but would like to see you put it on by straping it. Very difficult for me to figure out where to attach the starp. Thank you.
The Velcro mesh pockets on the main compartment aren’t opened from either side for ambidextrous carry. Each side of the Velcro mesh pockets are separated into their own individual compartments. The zipper part though, is definitely ambidextrous.
Damn, I just bought a Hazard-4 sling pack!
If i buy this i will use this for work.
Is this the sandstone color? Online it looks so tan! Every video tho it looks so much more green!
Yes, it's the sandstone color and it does favor slightly more on the green side than the brown side. Just for reference, Maxpedition's khaki color matches almost exactly to the 5.11 sandstone color.
I own one in this color. I bought a US mil surplus canteen with pouch in "coyote" and attached it to the molle webbing on the front of the bag. The colors match so well it looks like it came that way stock.
The pack is great but man did they phone in the main compartment.
very thorough review. and a big thumps up to that! Please allow me to raise 2 questions to you and your viewers . What is the idea of sling packs? Why a sling pack? Try to answer that before you continue reading.
Now that you have your answers, let's see if yours match mine.
1. sling packs are obviously designed for smaller, kind of EDC items. it gives you access to the items without removing it from your body.
2. as far the as the Why goes, it's the weight distribution and the maneuverability.
The concepts are all good on papers, right? It seems so, but I'll not have any slings, again.
Have a look at a sling's closest rival, a messenger style bag, and you'll know what I mean. Messenger bags, in general, are designed for a much looser fit, which means all the weight is handled by 1 side of the shoulders and that's it. A sling is supposed to transfer some of that weight onto your back, so theoretically speaking, it should be more comfortable, and you can run with it, since the pack contours your body. Wrong! While the idea of weight distribution works to a certain extent, all of the slings come with a different setback, namely the shoulder strap. sling packs fit the wearer's body diagonally, and to achieve that weight distribution, and maneuverability so you can run with the bag on you back, it has to be pulled closer to the body. At some point, you'll find the shoulder strap digging into your neck. try swinging it. let's say, 10 times back and forth. and you'll notice a mild pain right where the strap digs into your neck. Of course, this problem can be remedied with a polo shirt, or any garments with some level neck collar. To get rid of that pain, you're gonna have to loosen it a bit, and the idea of weight distribution and maneuverability is eliminated.
Don't even get me started on the orientation of the pockets. Most slings are fabricated with pockets vertically oriented. that's why none of them can accommodate a water bottle. you put the items in vertically, but when you swing it to the front, you have to get them out horizontally. Isn't that kind of awkward to you guys? For me, it's definitely is.
I used to have a moab 10, but I had to sell it because of the aforementioned reasons.
Now, I'll go with small-medium sized messengers over the slings, in a heart beat. smaller messengers will mitigate your temptation to load it with 80 pounds of gear, the pockets keep their orientation both on your back and front so your items stay where they are, they come with a pocket, if not 2, for your water bottles, most of them are now decked out with a stabilizer strap across your hips to secure them in place, hence, you can kind of move freely with the pack out of the way.
that's just my overall opinion. Don't let that prevent you from getting a sling. If you prefer the feel, and the look those, sling it! For me, I think I'm better off with a small size messenger pack.
Thanks a lot for the full and useful explanation. I already have a messenger bag from 5.11. however I am using more often my bike to move in the city. I love taking my Nikon camera with me when I ride, therefore the messenger bag has very limited space. I would like to ask you, Do you think on the Moab 10, a 13 inch laptop would fit inside with a camelbak (undertanding the risk of water aside to my laptop) and on the front could have space to my DSLR camera? Thanks in advance.
@@angex79 I don't think the laptop can fit nice and snugly . moab 10: height approx 46cm, length: approx 23 cm. a typical 13in laptop's length is 24cm. Maybe if you force it hard enough, it can get in, but it's gonna be a very tight fit. the bag has more space than you need for the camera and reservoir. A sling can carry a 13in laptop + space for camera and water-reservoir-compatible? You might want to look at the Vanquest Javelin for your loadout . it's big enough for your laptop, since you're carrying a camera, the bag has a system of dividers ( separate purchase) for all the lens, accessories, and whatnot.
@Jason Sinatra That's awesome. I guess packs in general are like clothes. we need to try them on to see how they fit. Unfortunately the Moab 10 is not really the best fit for me. If it's working for you, stick with your system.
I use a sling pack because of my commute, I can just spin it around into my lap when I take a seat on the train instead of taking it off like a backpack.
What are the included straps for?.? The tier system straps
Do you feel the 3V Outlaw slinger is just as good
Will it hold a SP5 with a Sig Romeo and a collapsible brace?
I think it will. I do know that it will hold a sig rattler with a romeo 8 and a foldable brace. I think they may he similar in size.
You can keep a water bottle inside the gun pocket.
comes in black, double tap, OD is green, strom is gray and multicam
That's correct, I flipped the explanation of the colors for the double tap and storm.
What do you recommend as a good alternative for a pack similar to this but better price?
Stop being broke just spend the 100 bucks
Does anybody know if a 13inch laptops could fit in? thanks in advance.
I can fit my 12.9" iPad in the cinch pocket, and it's got a full keyboard attached so I'd say you'd be okay.
My old 13 inch work laptop fit, the problem I had was with that much weight in it (company issued lenovo, it was a brick), the buckles squeaked...
Thanks guys, I finally bought it on August and I’m very happy with it. But I had to attach other accessories on the mole stuff.
Would you get that over a hazard 4 plan b?
That was one of the other packs I was considering but it really depends on the context and purpose for the bag. It's certainly a quality bag as well.
Can get in a 16" laptop?
I thought storm was the concrete grey
Great bag it’s just the price...
you did not review the hydration pouch in the back which takes care of hydration
john david Copeland good catch! He mentions the hole for the tube but not where to put it
He actually does, watch the whole video
Nice video but I don’t get why so many people don’t know the difference between a pocket and a pouch. I mean do you call the pocket son your pants as pouches? A pouch would be what one would attach with molle to pals webbing.
does a momma kangaroo keep her baby joey in her pocket or her pouch ?
Is Cordura or nylon ?
It's 1050D Cordura nylon as noted in the video but Cordura is a branded nylon fabric.
You left out a few pockets