You are not only a scientist, you are an artist! Your way of presenting History is not only most accurate and up to date, but also very entertaining. But what amazes me most are your cinematographic skills: you are a marvellous director, producer, cameraman, scriptwriter and speaker! A true one-man-orchestra! A pleasure to watch your works!!
What a wonderful treat to wake and find that you have put out a new video, Pete! I studied ancient/classical art history 40 yrs ago . I truly appreciate quality “story tellers” bringing up to date info and perspectives to the world.
In general it seems clear that we heavily underestimated the time from 10 000 BC to Roman times. A lot happened and civilisation was not that primitive even very early. No farming and metal but still, makes one wonder as wd where the same even before 10 000 BC
@@SpartanLeonidas1821. В Троянской войне греки не участвовали, а только фракийские племена. Тогда греки не умели плавать. Морские народъй бъйли фракийские племена, согласно египетских документов. Греки начали плавать 500 лет после Троянской войне. Все говорили на одном язъйке и имели одинаковъйе обьъйчаи похоронения Никто не говорил о варваров, любимое слово греков. Троянъй фракийцуй, дарданъй, царь Резос фракиец, Агамемнон и Менелай микенцъй, потомки фригийского царья Пелопса, оттуда и название Пелопонес. Фригия фракийское государство в Малой Азии. "Мирмидонцъй Ахила, зто тот народ, которъй знаем как болгаръй" писали Йоан Малала и Йоан Цеца. Сам Гомер не грек, а меон. Меонъй часть из мизийцев, мизов, которъйе позднее стали назъйваться и болгарами с 2 века, по имени одного из мизийских племен. Гомер пишет:"Ооо Зевс пеласгийский, царью додонский". Зевс пеласгийский, фракийский. Пеласги южнофракийский народ. Храм Зевса находился в Додоне в Епире. Пазителями храма Зевса в Додоне бъйли селли. фракийское племя Селли жили и в центре Болгарии. Позднее греки проняли
Brilliant documentary as always Pete! Very clear, straightforward explanation, nice story, music, timing. Always a massive fan, thank you very much for your effort and your passion.
Loved Professor Michael Wood's presentation and content. You are taking the baton and taking it so far. Your knowledge Pete is incredible and all of the research!!! I cannot get enough of your videos.
Great and enjoyable video! I was at Troy a few years ago and it was fantastic. One minor nit-pick though! The wooden horse at the site of Troy isn't the one used in the movie Troy. That prop is actually in the nearby town of Canakkale and was given to the town as a gift after the movie was finished. It is on display in the town.
@7:57 I love that Heinrich choose this for himself rather than a promise to a higher power to be a “better human”, like you typically hear. I don’t know why but it makes me automatically have more respect for him.
Soooooo good! I smashed that "like" button as hard as I could. Imagine doing a follow-up series to Michael Wood's "In Search of the Trojan War". With all the new information we have, it would be remarkable, and you could do it, Pete. On a side note, The Troad (Troy) was made up of a number of cities, there was even an Alexandria, founded by, Alexander III. The Hirsalik hill is the site of Ilium (the Iliad gets its name from here), which is where the Greeks built the Classical and Hellenic site, as did the Romans. I have a few coins of ancient Ilium, they have the name on them and all, they date to the 4th-3rd century BC. One day I'll make the trip there myself!
Troy had an amazing history, I saw a documentary in the past that said it went through three stages, declining from a prosperous city to a war-ravaged state. Whenever I get food through a drive-through window at McDonald's, I think of Troy because in its last stage it distributed bread to lined-up people through openings in the walls of buildings. I think some of Schlieman's account of Troy is fantastical, but I also think he did important research on Bronze Age Troy. I think the movie "Troy: Fall of a City" presented a more modest and probably more accurate look at Troy than the movie "Troy" with Brad Pitt. Do historians know how many people lived in the legendary Troy?
Thank you for making this! I'm from the UK originally but live in New Zealand, I was able to visit Athens and Delphi in 2018 and see the 'Mask of Agamemnon' and all the sites and it always feels like there isn't enough time 😭 I miss the feeling of just existing amongst the really ancient history and being able to see it wherever you go as human settlement in Aotearoa doesn't go back that far and there aren't sites like this
Troy remains one of history's many fascinating mysteries. I so fondly remember the BBC series "In search of Troy" presented by enthusiastic Michael Wood in the 1980ies, each Sunday eyes fixed to the television set here in the Netherlands. That's when I learned that the British are the heirs of the Greek in a sense because of their captivating storytelling abilities. A talent you and your brother most certainly have in spades also @Pete Kelly. Sincere compliments are well in place. Should Corona have a few other tricks up its sleeves I hope one day you'll take us along on the road to ancient Celtic myths with gods, heroes like Cuchulain and dig into the way the Celts saw the world they lived in.
Pete! I took the same trip in May 2013! I was taking a bus that went straight from Bozcaada (Tenedos) to Istanbul so the bus did not go to Hissarlik there... so I had the bus drop me off on the highway and hitchhiked with a farmer! I walked freely and alone through the site before the tourists got going- it was amazing! Then I sat outside the little cafe and filmed some puppies fighting over a hill- it seemed perfect! It was truly great day!
Peter I've been watching your documentaries for a while now and I've also subscribed to your channel, I just wanted to say thank you for all the enormous effort you put into these documentaries, I think I speak for many people when I say how much I enjoy listening to you and thank you once again 😊
This must be Troy!! All the old European nations derive from this place and War, and it must have been here....Those people, jumped over Greece who beat them, and passed to the North and West of Europe, how logical is that??!!! Thank you Schliemann for finding this out after many years of "darkness" - the whole treasure of Priam he found there, intact, waiting to be discovered just like that, as some sort of magic!!.....People until that time had been ignorant and hadn't known what was hidden in those ruins...Well, THANK YOU, Schliemann, you man of honour and learning, of justice and light, of knowledge and discernment...Thank you, thank you, AGAIN, thank you.......✝️
This was extremely well done. Congratulations, Pete! If I’m being honest, I never had any desire to visit that area. Mostly due to politics and culture. Now it’s a must!
Pete, you're a great storyteller. And what better than a story about Troy? A story about Agamemnon, Achilles, Odysseus, Hector, Helen and Priam. The Trojan War is said to have occurred sometime during the period 1300-1200 BC. Eratosthenes dated the Sack of Troy to 1183 BC. But, what blows my mind is that Otzi, the ice man was entombed in ice in the Italian Alps 5,300 years ago - more than 2,100 years before the Trojan War - and yet we know what was in Otzi's last meal!
Just by seeing the footage of the ruins of Troy, along with your voice, I can see history unfold it self before me...marvelous documentary. If only I could go back in time to the year 3000 BC, and see how Troy really came to be, what a joy that would be to experience...😉
I found this really interesting thank you. We are all fascinated with the legend of Troy. Looking at these historic ruins gives you pause for thought. All civilisations have crumbled, and I wondered, when I was looking at this, who in thousands of years time might be looking at the ruins of our civilisation.
Thank you Pete for this video, and for your channel. As you are on the turkish coast, it would be great to see you visit the ancient city of Milet, the home of Thales and his students. to make a video documentary on the origin of philosophy...anyway, thank you.
Oh wow, this is so good. I studied the Mycenaean civilisation for my Classical Civilisation A level, and followed it into a degree. I'd give anything to go there. Thank you for this informative and fascinating video.
I was there in about 2002 and spent a couple of nights in Canakkale. When the Aussies went to Gallipoli, I went to visit Troy, and had the place to myself. It was at the the time of the tomato harvest. I was also able to visit Priene, Miletus, Didyma, Ephesus and Pamukkale on the same journey.
At the beginning the bread making !!! The guy baked them on a cement road tile heated by sticks ! The bread was fantastic! They even put Happy Birthday into it just for me! You brought back so many pleasant memories Thank You!
18:43 that is not the horse used in Troy(the film). It's my understanding that one is present on the site somewhere, although I'm not sure where. It's distinguished by its very rustic appearance, as if it was quickly put together from the hulls of the Achaean ships.
Pete, you put out some of the highest quality content on this platform and I just gotta hand it to you❤You make such beautiful, immersive docs that even when it’s on subjects that I already know much of the information already, your presentation is very much worth sitting down, stopping whatever multitasking I’m doing/listening to, and giving my full attention. I hope you know how much you are appreciated and what your work means to have available on RUclips as an engaging, enthralling way for people to increase their knowledge of the ancient world, and history of archaeology-your wording is so fair yet very compelling. I loved how you introduced Heinrich Schliemann’s life as “one of the great romantic tales of the archaeological golden age”; that’s just so witty and accurate and makes any viewer, even an informed one, want to hear what else you have to say about this very fascinating archaeological mishap/tale from start to finish. You’re a good storyteller; this might have even been the first video that hasn’t made me want to pull my hair out over what happened😂love it.😊
Outstanding work Pete! I felt like I was right there with you. I had the pleasure of an all-to-short visit to Knossos in 2003 and the amount of archaeology there is amazing! Coming from Canada, it is a bit funny of what our sense of "old" is, when you walk around sites in the Med and UK. I think that an interesting trip for you might be a visit to Château de Montségur for a discussion of the rise and fall of the Cathars in southern France. Thanks again for the time and effort that you put into these films. They are brilliant. I look forward to your next adventure.
What an excellent video. Pete, I super duper enjoyed this. I was always fascinated by Troy and Schliemann, and it was a treat to watch this. Thank you ! 🙏😀
This is exactly the kind of thoughtful,informed & engaging content that i wish that Bbc was spending it's Liscence fee money on! A year late on this one as i've seen and read loads on the whole Troy thing but going along on Petes day out was for me......hugely enjoyable
The story of Troy is ubiquitous. Every inch of land everywhere in the world has a story to tell. Lives are born & reborn in endless cycle of birth & death. Civilizations rise & fall. The question is how to escape this cycle of life.
Hi Pete, first time watching your channel. Subscribing! Great info. Glad you are able to travel and enjoy history up close. Thank you for sharing your adventures and knowledge with the rest of us. God bless you!
The narrator says "a landscape that has changed little over the millennia", and follows it up a few moments later, with "the shoreline was different back then".
I wrote about 1,500 words, pared it down to the 30 or so I posted, but here are 700 more: I think lawyers call your comment "a distinction without a difference". "Landscapes" often, or usually, include water features, from streams and rivers, to ponds and lakes, seas and oceans. Water features almost always involve some "land", in shores, continents, islands, etc. Some "landscapes" have water on all sides, some on two sides, a few on three sides, so the distinction is meaningless, in terms of whether that particular landscape looks very much like it did, 3,000+ years ago! Here's a hint: It doesn't. At all. There may be hills and valleys, but large amounts of water have flowed over them, earthquakes have riven then, and storms with off-the-scale winds, inconceivable lightning, and torrential rains, all unlike any seen today, scoured them, repeatedly, in ancient times. In fact, the megalithic construction common to the times speaks to the kinds of storms I mention, when it seemed as if God Himself was trying to eradicate "His" creation. The ancient past before 700BC is a mystery wrapped in a riddle, inside an enigma. I question dating before the 8th Century BC, because the world was little, if anything more than sand and sky, like it is today, and the agents of that change were indescribably violent, unimaginably terrible, and stunningly, and suddenly, deadly. Every source we have speaks of the violence, and turbulence, with perils at every turn. Empires rise and fall, often without explanation, sometimes in catastrophes that have been misinterpreted, but always suddenly, and finally. The "Fall of Empires", at "the end of the Bronze Age", is an excellent example. Homer's The Iliad is a mashup of the "war" that took place at the end of the 12th Century BC, during the "Fall", one he had learned "songs" about, in his youth, blended with the war he "witnessed", in the 8th Century BC, probably as an entertainer. That would be the time of the first of Homer's wars, the war of "glory" and "heroes", the times of Achilles, Agamemnon, Ajax and the might of the Mycenae. I suspect Homer answer the ancient siren song of "banners and bugles", and sailed to Troy, to join the "great adventure", the way youth has, until recently, at least. There, he soon found war is boring, ugly, and filthy, with little glory to be found, except in the "moments" of battle. As it ever was. Those "wars" were but two in the long series of events, many of them far more drastic, that changed the world indelibly, between Noah's Flood and Homer's Iliad There was a massive "earthquake", a meteor storm from hell, Exodus, Joshua, II Samuel, I Isaiah, and Ezekiel, all stories filled with death, destruction, and titanic events that beggar description. Either the ancients were far more creative than we give them credit for, or bad things happened, again, and again, ad nauseum. A big part of the reason the "dark ages" of the ancient past are so confusing is our refusal to acknowledge the events that defined the times and created the conditions that led to the "myths", "legends" and "Bible stories" that populate the era. I'm happy to talk to you about it, if you want to talk about it in the nexus of events happening around the world, simultaneously. but it appears you are embedded in orthodoxy, so I'll save that until you realize the story was "interrupted", by titanic forces, not once or twice, but repeatedly, and frequently, on a human scale, for nearly a millennium! These are our "origin" stories, the only ones we have, as vital to Western culture as the same are to Native American groups, or other peoples around the world, the only remaining traces from other, distant, humans, of "What happened?" I have that problem, too, but I try to recognize the symptoms, and "check my hole card", frequently, trying to develop a narrative to fit all the evidence I can bring to bear. Homer telling of bronze weapons and chariots in The Iliad is a reference to an ancient war, a war his family had "sung" about for generations. The use of "nostalgia" as a literary device, allowed the bard to bring forward elements from those old "songs" (ancient Greek was spoken in a sing-song manner, I am reliably told) into the new ones he crafted to amuse the warriors of his time. This is an age-old device, at least since Homer's time, part flattery of one's audience, part reminiscence, part "Ain't we great?" glad-handing and blatant backslapping, generously mixed with tales of towering heroes and desperate battles won by stunning feats of bravery in the hour of direst need. To crib from Master Will, "There is more to the story than is dreamt of, in your universe"@@PeteKellyHistory
As are your other videos this is wonderful. Your voice is very listenable and perfectly suited to evoke a feeling of ancient times. My only criticism is this: when you pause in the narrative the background music is often overly modulated. I think it does enhance the drama but I would merely ask that it is done a bit more subtly . Having said that your videos are the most watchable on these historical subjects.you convey a lot of information and atmosphere.
Love all your videos - excellent and well edited compared to most. Just one quibble - if you are on tour with a guide, the guides actually do have tons of valuable information. It’s their job! I vastly prefer independent travel myself, but used to work for American Express Tours decades ago and have been on a guided tour. The guides are wonderful and well-worth listening to.
Thanks Pete - a good summary. I visited a few years back and was lucky to meet the lead archaeologist (I believe his name was Ruslem) who explained the various levels which can get a bit confusing when you're on the ground there. The thing that fascinated me was his response to the inevitable question about the giant wooden horse at the entrance, and he pointed out that horses were a new and powerful thing in warfare around that time, and those with horses and chariots had a big advantage. Apparently, the Greek chariots were able to rip through the Trojans when they fought on the flat plain between the walls and the sea, and so he thinks the "legend" of the horse may have come from that, rather than a literal wooden horse.
On top of all this, there are more Roman ruins in Turkey than Italy or anywhere on earth. That was astounding to me and indeed, it's a history buff's paradise. If you go nowhere else, Turkey is the place to go for antiquity and I've travelled all over the world for half a century.
I am still glad the people in Crete decided to use an archaeologist who didn't use dynamite and say no to Schliemann digging up Knossos. There is certainly two truths about the man, his passion did lead to great discoveries but his methods were not great and smuggling out treasures to dress up your wife is a bit much for my taste. Schliemann was a great antiquarian but a terrible archaeologist. Since he lived at the border of those 2 you do get 2 very different views which both are true. I don't think any other antiquarian ever found greater treasure but any first year archaeology student will cry when you describe his methods.
@@ThorfinnMacbeth Uh, I don't think grave robbing artifacts for fashion is very tasteful no matter how you put it. And I don't think it was super smart to claim you never found such artifacts and then parade your wife around celebrity parties wearing said artifacts either. I guess she made a fashion statement though, she did get on a lot of magazine covers even though her and her husband were forbidden to enter the Ottoman empire afterwards. But if you were a high up government official on Crete and the guy who paraded his wife in jewelry he had stolen from his last dig wanted to excavate Knossos who likely is the most significant place in your entire island, would you let him do that? I don't think so and neither did the people on Crete. Some moron allowed him to dig in Mycenae though, that must have included a bribe.
Both Schliemann and Evans are controversial figures or more rightly put a product of their time. Evans might not use dynamite but is highly probable that the iconic ancient Knossos we have in mind, is a product of his interpretation and creative choices. When it comes to the treasures he didnt exactly smuggled it out to dress his wife. It goes deeper than that. He felt justifiable to ensure that the artifacts would not fall in the hands of the turkish goverment. The Turks were considered an invading occupying force in the area with no cultural or ethnic connection to its ancient past. The cultural part was true, as for the ethnic part not so much, since the bulk of the ''turkish'' population even today are descendents of forcefully or willingly converted to Islam Greeks (and Romans), Armenians and anatolians.
@@joek600 Evans were rather competent for his time, Schliemann were more an antiquarian then an archaeologist. Sure, I am well aware that modern archaeologists are discussing Evans interpretation of Knossos but I think we can say that he was closer then Schliemann were of Troy. And yeah, the Ottomans were not super popular during the time but I still don't agree that Schliemann did the ethically right thing. If he didn't like the Turks he should have donated the treasures to something like the British museum (who is still full of stolen artifacts) instead of treating them like his own property and having someone wearing them.
@@loke6664 I agree Evans was closer to what we think as an archaelogist today. Personally Im divided when it comes to his ''restorations''. From one hand they guy simply made up a huge part of site and the frescoes. From the other hand though he gave life to what would be just an other heap of ruins and inspired both academians and the public. From a moral point of view Schliemann was wrong to smuggle the treasure out of Turkey. But from a pragmatic point of view if he had not done this the treasure would be probably lost for ever. His wife didnt wear the jewels around, she basically modeled them for various publications. Actually at that point the Ottomans realized what happened and they claimed their part of the gold. Hint ''part of the gold'' not artifacts. With the Ottoman empire at its last legs, while there was still a huge number of Greek population living within its borders and with clear aspirations of independence and union with the newly found greek state, the last thing the turkish state needed, was to reafirm their cultural roots and ties with a glorious past that now it was proving to be more that ''myths'', while the fascinated europe watched. And if by chance the treasure would escape this fate by the Sultan's regime, it would not escape the wave of turkish nationalism under Kemal Ataturk.
Thanks for watching guys. Enjoyed making this one a lot. Where would you like to see me visit next?
Are you feeling quite done with the Orkneys yet? I hope not...
The oldest in the med sea. But ill watch and share anything u make.
Ireland, Wales, the highlands of Scotland, Iceland, Italy. To name a few haha.
Akrotiri has got to be on the top of places I would love to visit.
The ancient cities in Syria...I dare you ;)
You are not only a scientist, you are an artist! Your way of presenting History is not only most accurate and up to date, but also very entertaining. But what amazes me most are your cinematographic skills: you are a marvellous director, producer, cameraman, scriptwriter and speaker! A true one-man-orchestra! A pleasure to watch your works!!
The simplicity of your documentaries make them brilliant...THANKYOU PETE KELLY
Every time you upload here or on your other channels it brightens my day, thank you alot Pete.
It is an absolute pleasure to watch anything you upload.
Never stop!
What a wonderful treat to wake and find that you have put out a new video, Pete! I studied ancient/classical art history 40 yrs ago . I truly appreciate quality “story tellers” bringing up to date info and perspectives to the world.
Hi pretty lady. How are you doing today?
Hi Pete! Love watching your Ancient History Documentaries!!
Hi pretty lady. How are you doing today????
I'm actually more impressed by the 2000 B.C. Troy than the 1200 B.C. Troy; those looked like some pretty big walls for the time.
In general it seems clear that we heavily underestimated the time from 10 000 BC to Roman times. A lot happened and civilisation was not that primitive even very early. No farming and metal but still, makes one wonder as wd where the same even before 10 000 BC
@@ulfpeWeren’t the Greeks before the Romans? Nobody underestimated them silly! 😂
@@ulfpe😂sumer has eridug city of Adam as king alulim 445,000 years before great flood before kish city of king aga was founded .
@@SpartanLeonidas1821. В Троянской войне греки не участвовали, а только фракийские племена. Тогда греки не умели плавать. Морские народъй бъйли фракийские племена, согласно египетских документов. Греки начали плавать 500 лет после Троянской войне. Все говорили на одном язъйке и имели одинаковъйе обьъйчаи похоронения
Никто не говорил о варваров, любимое слово греков. Троянъй фракийцуй, дарданъй, царь Резос фракиец, Агамемнон и Менелай микенцъй, потомки фригийского царья Пелопса, оттуда и название Пелопонес. Фригия фракийское государство в Малой Азии. "Мирмидонцъй Ахила, зто тот народ, которъй знаем как болгаръй" писали Йоан Малала и Йоан Цеца. Сам Гомер не грек, а меон. Меонъй часть из мизийцев, мизов, которъйе позднее стали назъйваться и болгарами с 2 века, по имени одного из мизийских племен.
Гомер пишет:"Ооо Зевс пеласгийский, царью додонский". Зевс пеласгийский, фракийский. Пеласги южнофракийский народ. Храм Зевса находился в Додоне в Епире. Пазителями храма Зевса в Додоне бъйли селли. фракийское племя
Селли жили и в центре Болгарии. Позднее греки проняли
@@DimitarDimitrov-bk4xm I don’t read your bulgarian script that we gave you Demetrios Demetriou! 🤡🦃🤡
I’m so glad to see more recent documentaries on ancient history! All of the others seem to be late 90’s!
I love your voice and your cadence in narration. So very soothing. I could listen to your videos all day.
I love all your videos I have listened to them many times . I always learn something new . Thank you for all your efforts. Your amazing🥰😍
Wow, what a coincidence. I watched Brad Pitt's version of Troy last night with my son. Thank you for posting this. It was very interesting.
Hah! Watched it recently too. Great movie… 14
Same here
Wut. Me too. I JUST watched it, last night
@@optioningthabears861 terrible taste. To the Brad Pitt booty scene i bet
Brilliant documentary as always Pete! Very clear, straightforward explanation, nice story, music, timing. Always a massive fan, thank you very much for your effort and your passion.
You're definitely following the footsteps of our hero; the one and only Michael Wood's _In Search of the Trojan War._
Good on you. Excellent work.
That is my favorite documentary of all time. I've probably seen it ten times
Awesome as always pete. Im glad u got to go and show us!
Loved Professor Michael Wood's presentation and content. You are taking the baton and taking it so far. Your knowledge Pete is incredible and all of the research!!! I cannot get enough of your videos.
Great and enjoyable video! I was at Troy a few years ago and it was fantastic.
One minor nit-pick though! The wooden horse at the site of Troy isn't the one used in the movie Troy. That prop is actually in the nearby town of Canakkale and was given to the town as a gift after the movie was finished. It is on display in the town.
@7:57 I love that Heinrich choose this for himself rather than a promise to a higher power to be a “better human”, like you typically hear. I don’t know why but it makes me automatically have more respect for him.
Thank you for your excellent content, Im always thrilled to see new videos:))
I've always been enthralled by Troy and the whole history/mythology surrounding it.
Soooooo good! I smashed that "like" button as hard as I could. Imagine doing a follow-up series to Michael Wood's "In Search of the Trojan War". With all the new information we have, it would be remarkable, and you could do it, Pete.
On a side note, The Troad (Troy) was made up of a number of cities, there was even an Alexandria, founded by, Alexander III. The Hirsalik hill is the site of Ilium (the Iliad gets its name from here), which is where the Greeks built the Classical and Hellenic site, as did the Romans. I have a few coins of ancient Ilium, they have the name on them and all, they date to the 4th-3rd century BC.
One day I'll make the trip there myself!
In search of the Trojan war is probably my favorite series ever made. It and The World at War are neck in neck for that place though.
I’m so balls deep into this channel right now! This guy is great
Troy had an amazing history, I saw a documentary in the past that said it went through three stages, declining from a prosperous city to a war-ravaged state. Whenever I get food through a drive-through window at McDonald's, I think of Troy because in its last stage it distributed bread to lined-up people through openings in the walls of buildings. I think some of Schlieman's account of Troy is fantastical, but I also think he did important research on Bronze Age Troy. I think the movie "Troy: Fall of a City" presented a more modest and probably more accurate look at Troy than the movie "Troy" with Brad Pitt. Do historians know how many people lived in the legendary Troy?
Thank you for making this! I'm from the UK originally but live in New Zealand, I was able to visit Athens and Delphi in 2018 and see the 'Mask of Agamemnon' and all the sites and it always feels like there isn't enough time 😭 I miss the feeling of just existing amongst the really ancient history and being able to see it wherever you go as human settlement in Aotearoa doesn't go back that far and there aren't sites like this
The Treasure of Priam…unbelievably gorgeous.
Can’t thank you enough for sharing all of this info with us.
Absolutely top notch presentation.
Troy remains one of history's many fascinating mysteries. I so fondly remember the BBC series "In search of Troy" presented by enthusiastic Michael Wood in the 1980ies, each Sunday eyes fixed to the television set here in the Netherlands. That's when I learned that the British are the heirs of the Greek in a sense because of their captivating storytelling abilities. A talent you and your brother most certainly have in spades also @Pete Kelly. Sincere compliments are well in place.
Should Corona have a few other tricks up its sleeves I hope one day you'll take us along on the road to ancient Celtic myths with gods, heroes like Cuchulain and dig into the way the Celts saw the world they lived in.
Pete! I took the same trip in May 2013!
I was taking a bus that went straight from Bozcaada (Tenedos) to Istanbul so the bus did not go to Hissarlik there... so I had the bus drop me off on the highway and hitchhiked with a farmer! I walked freely and alone through the site before the tourists got going- it was amazing! Then I sat outside the little cafe and filmed some puppies fighting over a hill- it seemed perfect! It was truly great day!
Peter I've been watching your documentaries for a while now and I've also subscribed to your channel, I just wanted to say thank you for all the enormous effort you put into these documentaries, I think I speak for many people when I say how much I enjoy listening to you and thank you once again 😊
Mr Kelly you really do have that ASMR going on.
Don't ever stop
Thank you! I've been waiting for someone to do a documentary on pre-Homeric Troy.
This must be Troy!! All the old European nations derive from this place and War, and it must have been here....Those people, jumped over Greece who beat them, and passed to the North and West of Europe, how logical is that??!!! Thank you Schliemann for finding this out after many years of "darkness" - the whole treasure of Priam he found there, intact, waiting to be discovered just like that, as some sort of magic!!.....People until that time had been ignorant and hadn't known what was hidden in those ruins...Well, THANK YOU, Schliemann, you man of honour and learning, of justice and light, of knowledge and discernment...Thank you, thank you, AGAIN, thank you.......✝️
I love your style to comunicate history, i can't help it but to hear your videos many times.
This was extremely well done. Congratulations, Pete! If I’m being honest, I never had any desire to visit that area. Mostly due to politics and culture. Now it’s a must!
Istanbul is also well worth a visit. The history of the place is everywhere you look.
I have passed through Istanbul’s airport, but US travel advisories at the time looked really sketch
Pete, you're a great storyteller. And what better than a story about Troy? A story about Agamemnon, Achilles, Odysseus, Hector, Helen and Priam.
The Trojan War is said to have occurred sometime during the period 1300-1200 BC. Eratosthenes dated the Sack of Troy to 1183 BC. But, what blows my mind is that Otzi, the ice man was entombed in ice in the Italian Alps 5,300 years ago - more than 2,100 years before the Trojan War - and yet we know what was in Otzi's last meal!
Just by seeing the footage of the ruins of Troy, along with your voice, I can see history unfold it self before me...marvelous documentary. If only I could go back in time to the year 3000 BC, and see how Troy really came to be, what a joy that would be to experience...😉
This was wonderful. I loved your feelings on the trip at the end. I wouldn’t want to leave either. Thanks so much for taking us with you
I found this really interesting thank you. We are all fascinated with the legend of Troy. Looking at these historic ruins gives you pause for thought. All civilisations have crumbled, and I wondered, when I was looking at this, who in thousands of years time might be looking at the ruins of our civilisation.
So well done! Subscribed!
great work Pete. Love all yer vids thus far. keep at it please. im an insomniac so dig your work in the wee hours.
I mean I already know this will be he best youtube vid I watch this month and I've not even clicked play yet...
Thanks for taking us along on your trip!
You give RUclips intelligence...THEY OWE YOU HEAPS...THANKYOU PETE KELLY.
I am no expert except an expert of watching documentaries and I am five minutes in and I can say that this was very well done thank you
Thanks!
This is one of my favourite channels. Great video!
Thank you Pete for this video, and for your channel. As you are on the turkish coast, it would be great to see you visit the ancient city of Milet, the home of Thales and his students. to make a video documentary on the origin of philosophy...anyway, thank you.
Thales omilisios
Θαλής ο Μιλήσιος 🏛️🇬🇷⚠️
Oh wow, this is so good. I studied the Mycenaean civilisation for my Classical Civilisation A level, and followed it into a degree. I'd give anything to go there. Thank you for this informative and fascinating video.
Hello Sue, I hope my comment wasn't taken as a form of invasion of your comments privacy. I'm here to make friends, how are you? Where are you from?
Hey Pete great pick for a new video look forward to your take on such a famous site.
Thank you so much for your excellent video. I only wish I could click on the like button more than once. Again, thank you.
Believe we will see you on the History channel one day my friend.. You have the Voice 💪
Excellent Work!!!
I'll always been upset about not getting to see Troy while I was in Turkey. Maybe someday I'll get to go back!
Great TV tonight, when I want to take a break from the Ottawa truck convoy videos . . . thank you for this! :o)
I was there in about 2002 and spent a couple of nights in Canakkale. When the Aussies went to Gallipoli, I went to visit Troy, and had the place to myself. It was at the the time of the tomato harvest. I was also able to visit Priene, Miletus, Didyma, Ephesus and Pamukkale on the same journey.
At the beginning the bread making !!! The guy baked them on a cement road tile heated by sticks ! The bread was fantastic! They even put Happy Birthday into it just for me! You brought back so many pleasant memories Thank You!
18:43 that is not the horse used in Troy(the film). It's my understanding that one is present on the site somewhere, although I'm not sure where. It's distinguished by its very rustic appearance, as if it was quickly put together from the hulls of the Achaean ships.
The actual one used in the movie is in the middle of the nearby town
Excellent! I hope you do make it back, and soon, Pete.
wonderful video! thanks!
Pete, you put out some of the highest quality content on this platform and I just gotta hand it to you❤You make such beautiful, immersive docs that even when it’s on subjects that I already know much of the information already, your presentation is very much worth sitting down, stopping whatever multitasking I’m doing/listening to, and giving my full attention. I hope you know how much you are appreciated and what your work means to have available on RUclips as an engaging, enthralling way for people to increase their knowledge of the ancient world, and history of archaeology-your wording is so fair yet very compelling. I loved how you introduced Heinrich Schliemann’s life as “one of the great romantic tales of the archaeological golden age”; that’s just so witty and accurate and makes any viewer, even an informed one, want to hear what else you have to say about this very fascinating archaeological mishap/tale from start to finish. You’re a good storyteller; this might have even been the first video that hasn’t made me want to pull my hair out over what happened😂love it.😊
Absolutely brilliant documentary and very interesting thank you very much
Outstanding work Pete! I felt like I was right there with you. I had the pleasure of an all-to-short visit to Knossos in 2003 and the amount of archaeology there is amazing! Coming from Canada, it is a bit funny of what our sense of "old" is, when you walk around sites in the Med and UK. I think that an interesting trip for you might be a visit to Château de Montségur for a discussion of the rise and fall of the Cathars in southern France. Thanks again for the time and effort that you put into these films. They are brilliant. I look forward to your next adventure.
Great video, awesome production, more please!
Beware of gifts, bearing Greeks!
I'll see myself out now.
What an excellent video. Pete, I super duper enjoyed this. I was always fascinated by Troy and Schliemann, and it was a treat to watch this. Thank you ! 🙏😀
Hi pretty lady. How are you doing today?
What a great video! Thank you for creating & sharing it.
thank you Pete. Greetings from Montana.
Amazing !! You need to do more documentaries your are very talented!🎉
Fun topic. This video just dropped a minute ago but I'm already excited.
This is exactly the kind of thoughtful,informed & engaging content that i wish that Bbc was spending it's Liscence fee money on! A year late on this one as i've seen and read loads on the whole Troy thing but going along on Petes day out was for me......hugely enjoyable
The story of Troy is ubiquitous. Every inch of land everywhere in the world has a story to tell. Lives are born & reborn in endless cycle of birth & death. Civilizations rise & fall. The question is how to escape this cycle of life.
Hi Pete, first time watching your channel. Subscribing! Great info. Glad you are able to travel and enjoy history up close. Thank you for sharing your adventures and knowledge with the rest of us. God bless you!
The narrator says "a landscape that has changed little over the millennia", and follows it up a few moments later, with "the shoreline was different back then".
LANDscape
I wrote about 1,500 words, pared it down to the 30 or so I posted, but here are 700 more:
I think lawyers call your comment "a distinction without a difference". "Landscapes" often, or usually, include water features, from streams and rivers, to ponds and lakes, seas and oceans. Water features almost always involve some "land", in shores, continents, islands, etc. Some "landscapes" have water on all sides, some on two sides, a few on three sides, so the distinction is meaningless, in terms of whether that particular landscape looks very much like it did, 3,000+ years ago!
Here's a hint: It doesn't. At all. There may be hills and valleys, but large amounts of water have flowed over them, earthquakes have riven then, and storms with off-the-scale winds, inconceivable lightning, and torrential rains, all unlike any seen today, scoured them, repeatedly, in ancient times. In fact, the megalithic construction common to the times speaks to the kinds of storms I mention, when it seemed as if God Himself was trying to eradicate "His" creation.
The ancient past before 700BC is a mystery wrapped in a riddle, inside an enigma. I question dating before the 8th Century BC, because the world was little, if anything more than sand and sky, like it is today, and the agents of that change were indescribably violent, unimaginably terrible, and stunningly, and suddenly, deadly. Every source we have speaks of the violence, and turbulence, with perils at every turn.
Empires rise and fall, often without explanation, sometimes in catastrophes that have been misinterpreted, but always suddenly, and finally. The "Fall of Empires", at "the end of the Bronze Age", is an excellent example. Homer's The Iliad is a mashup of the "war" that took place at the end of the 12th Century BC, during the "Fall", one he had learned "songs" about, in his youth, blended with the war he "witnessed", in the 8th Century BC, probably as an entertainer.
That would be the time of the first of Homer's wars, the war of "glory" and "heroes", the times of Achilles, Agamemnon, Ajax and the might of the Mycenae. I suspect Homer answer the ancient siren song of "banners and bugles", and sailed to Troy, to join the "great adventure", the way youth has, until recently, at least. There, he soon found war is boring, ugly, and filthy, with little glory to be found, except in the "moments" of battle.
As it ever was. Those "wars" were but two in the long series of events, many of them far more drastic, that changed the world indelibly, between Noah's Flood and Homer's Iliad There was a massive "earthquake", a meteor storm from hell, Exodus, Joshua, II Samuel, I Isaiah, and Ezekiel, all stories filled with death, destruction, and titanic events that beggar description. Either the ancients were far more creative than we give them credit for, or bad things happened, again, and again, ad nauseum.
A big part of the reason the "dark ages" of the ancient past are so confusing is our refusal to acknowledge the events that defined the times and created the conditions that led to the "myths", "legends" and "Bible stories" that populate the era. I'm happy to talk to you about it, if you want to talk about it in the nexus of events happening around the world, simultaneously. but it appears you are embedded in orthodoxy, so I'll save that until you realize the story was "interrupted", by titanic forces, not once or twice, but repeatedly, and frequently, on a human scale, for nearly a millennium!
These are our "origin" stories, the only ones we have, as vital to Western culture as the same are to Native American groups, or other peoples around the world, the only remaining traces from other, distant, humans, of "What happened?" I have that problem, too, but I try to recognize the symptoms, and "check my hole card", frequently, trying to develop a narrative to fit all the evidence I can bring to bear.
Homer telling of bronze weapons and chariots in The Iliad is a reference to an ancient war, a war his family had "sung" about for generations. The use of "nostalgia" as a literary device, allowed the bard to bring forward elements from those old "songs" (ancient Greek was spoken in a sing-song manner, I am reliably told) into the new ones he crafted to amuse the warriors of his time. This is an age-old device, at least since Homer's time, part flattery of one's audience, part reminiscence, part "Ain't we great?" glad-handing and blatant backslapping, generously mixed with tales of towering heroes and desperate battles won by stunning feats of bravery in the hour of direst need.
To crib from Master Will, "There is more to the story than is dreamt of, in your universe"@@PeteKellyHistory
Even the music you choose is perfect.
I just love your videos/films, that are always so well-researched and fun to watch. This is a beautiful area, thanks for “taking us there”.
As are your other videos this is wonderful. Your voice is very listenable and perfectly suited to evoke a feeling of ancient times. My only criticism is this: when you pause in the narrative the background music is often overly modulated. I think it does enhance the drama but I would merely ask that it is done a bit more subtly . Having said that your videos are the most watchable on these historical subjects.you convey a lot of information and atmosphere.
I have to stop wachting your videoes more than...one more, please ;)
Thank you very much!!!
Keep doing what you do...
Ahhh a brilliant well made history documentary, well done
Your personal RUclips channel uploads remind me of those odyssey documentaries, which are really good by the way.
RUclips does not populate Pete's videos to my home or subscription pages. I seek out Pete's page....because his content is that good.
This was a great watch, well done 👍
Nice summation in a journey. One of my favorite periods.
Thank you very much.
You're making a great job, your vids are very interesting. Your voice is very nice and fits perfectly.
Hey Pete, have you ever released the music you made for the history time channel?
Love all your videos - excellent and well edited compared to most.
Just one quibble - if you are on tour with a guide, the guides actually do have tons of valuable information. It’s their job! I vastly prefer independent travel myself, but used to work for American Express Tours decades ago and have been on a guided tour. The guides are wonderful and well-worth listening to.
Guides are superb yes. But if I stand and listen to the guide there is no video for you to watch. It’s a sacrifice I make for you 👌
A really excellent and detailed overview. Very entertaining and enlightening.
We, the Lady and I, hope you can make it back, too. Excellent correlation of views and narration.
Thank you.
It kind of reminds you of Klaus Schmidt and his study of Gobekli Tepe. Like what is it that draws German archeologists to Anatolia?
Excellent. So well done.
Thanks Pete - a good summary. I visited a few years back and was lucky to meet the lead archaeologist (I believe his name was Ruslem) who explained the various levels which can get a bit confusing when you're on the ground there. The thing that fascinated me was his response to the inevitable question about the giant wooden horse at the entrance, and he pointed out that horses were a new and powerful thing in warfare around that time, and those with horses and chariots had a big advantage. Apparently, the Greek chariots were able to rip through the Trojans when they fought on the flat plain between the walls and the sea, and so he thinks the "legend" of the horse may have come from that, rather than a literal wooden horse.
I'm so glad you went to TROY 😊😊
This was great the first, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th and IDK how many times now, but this, like all your vids. are most excellent.
On top of all this, there are more Roman ruins in Turkey than Italy or anywhere on earth. That was astounding to me and indeed, it's a history buff's paradise. If you go nowhere else, Turkey is the place to go for antiquity and I've travelled all over the world for half a century.
It's not Roman but Greek Ruins
The Turks say its Roman because they make a cultural war against Greece
Very useful for future visits in this place. Thx 👍
Compared to some of the incredibly destructive excavations in Egypt, Schliemann's were fairly gentle.
Eratostenes wrote that Troy was taken in 1184 BC. Any ideas what sources he might have had?
Excellent video, thanks Pete
I am still glad the people in Crete decided to use an archaeologist who didn't use dynamite and say no to Schliemann digging up Knossos.
There is certainly two truths about the man, his passion did lead to great discoveries but his methods were not great and smuggling out treasures to dress up your wife is a bit much for my taste.
Schliemann was a great antiquarian but a terrible archaeologist. Since he lived at the border of those 2 you do get 2 very different views which both are true. I don't think any other antiquarian ever found greater treasure but any first year archaeology student will cry when you describe his methods.
but what if they were *tasteful* treasures?
@@ThorfinnMacbeth Uh, I don't think grave robbing artifacts for fashion is very tasteful no matter how you put it.
And I don't think it was super smart to claim you never found such artifacts and then parade your wife around celebrity parties wearing said artifacts either.
I guess she made a fashion statement though, she did get on a lot of magazine covers even though her and her husband were forbidden to enter the Ottoman empire afterwards.
But if you were a high up government official on Crete and the guy who paraded his wife in jewelry he had stolen from his last dig wanted to excavate Knossos who likely is the most significant place in your entire island, would you let him do that?
I don't think so and neither did the people on Crete. Some moron allowed him to dig in Mycenae though, that must have included a bribe.
Both Schliemann and Evans are controversial figures or more rightly put a product of their time. Evans might not use dynamite but is highly probable that the iconic ancient Knossos we have in mind, is a product of his interpretation and creative choices. When it comes to the treasures he didnt exactly smuggled it out to dress his wife. It goes deeper than that. He felt justifiable to ensure that the artifacts would not fall in the hands of the turkish goverment. The Turks were considered an invading occupying force in the area with no cultural or ethnic connection to its ancient past. The cultural part was true, as for the ethnic part not so much, since the bulk of the ''turkish'' population even today are descendents of forcefully or willingly converted to Islam Greeks (and Romans), Armenians and anatolians.
@@joek600 Evans were rather competent for his time, Schliemann were more an antiquarian then an archaeologist. Sure, I am well aware that modern archaeologists are discussing Evans interpretation of Knossos but I think we can say that he was closer then Schliemann were of Troy.
And yeah, the Ottomans were not super popular during the time but I still don't agree that Schliemann did the ethically right thing. If he didn't like the Turks he should have donated the treasures to something like the British museum (who is still full of stolen artifacts) instead of treating them like his own property and having someone wearing them.
@@loke6664 I agree Evans was closer to what we think as an archaelogist today. Personally Im divided when it comes to his ''restorations''. From one hand they guy simply made up a huge part of site and the frescoes. From the other hand though he gave life to what would be just an other heap of ruins and inspired both academians and the public.
From a moral point of view Schliemann was wrong to smuggle the treasure out of Turkey. But from a pragmatic point of view if he had not done this the treasure would be probably lost for ever. His wife didnt wear the jewels around, she basically modeled them for various publications. Actually at that point the Ottomans realized what happened and they claimed their part of the gold. Hint ''part of the gold'' not artifacts. With the Ottoman empire at its last legs, while there was still a huge number of Greek population living within its borders and with clear aspirations of independence and union with the newly found greek state, the last thing the turkish state needed, was to reafirm their cultural roots and ties with a glorious past that now it was proving to be more that ''myths'', while the fascinated europe watched. And if by chance the treasure would escape this fate by the Sultan's regime, it would not escape the wave of turkish nationalism under Kemal Ataturk.
This is AMAZING!!!!
Excellent! Thank you Pete !:-)
Brilliant as always.
So so interesting! Thank you Pete 👌👍🇬🇧