This is a very quick and rough guide for most of the mechanics in the Maven fight! Will make a proper production visual guide later on if there's enough interest.
Hey ziz i have some trouble with the atlas. I want to spawn the influence of a conqueror on my atlas, but when i socket the map on the map device it says that the level of the curent map is too low for a conqueror to occupy the region, but i dont have red maps of that regino since i dont have stones of that region... can u make a vid to help us noobs on that? thank u bro gl. see ya on stream
6:34, 8:57, 11:39, 13:09 Memory game If you are super confused like I was: You don't have to stand in a certain third at a certain time. You only have to change thirds in the correct order with any timing, and when you finish, the expanding circle in the middle explodes - and like Zizaran explains, don't stand in it when it does that. So no need to rush besides that, you can take your time to change thirds.
Even when watching the video and not playing I find the memory game extremely hard to follow. I'm not bad at memory games in general, I think there's some really bad visual clarity issues with it. I cannot imagine how people with any sight issues or colourblindness are dealing with it.
I am suffering now ... I have poor eyesight and during the battle it is impossible to see the stains on the floor, lasers, explosions and bright colors, it sucks ...
"you dont have crazy resists". You have 4000 more hp and 3500 energy shield more than the average player has that is currently trying their first maven :'D
I've watched 2 guides for this and the memory phase looks nearly un-doable. Maybe it is more clear when your doing it yourself. But I can't even see or tell what he being highlighted.
Dude, thank you lol. I was watching Subtractums vid and he spends SOO much time talking about weird ways to do the Maven Memory Game instead of actually showing it.
Bro called it a "quick guide" and it's 17 mins long lmao these RUclipsrs have no idea what quick actually means. Constantly drawn out content. Get to the point! (BTW easily get to the point with the Maxroll boss guides, so much faster than watching a long ass video)
Very comprehensive Ziz! This will tide me over until our Lord and savior huizui returns to us One detail I noticed from my first fight today is that the edges of the arena will flash gold when the maven brain is landing, it can help you locate the walkable tiles
That atlas tree in the middle should be there since the beginning, after u got the first 2 points in any other tree on the atlas ;/ Its really annoying having to keep track of which bosses u already killed before that tree shows up ;/
I really hate this fight, I have much more fun with Sirus. It's good that you don't have to kill her to unlock the uncharted realms tree, because of lot of players won't be able to do it, so they can still benefit from this tree, just not at the full extent
Not to shit on the video, but I don't feel very confident or more prepared for the fight after watching it because ur 15k hp and can just facetank anything
how many memory games are there in total? i feel like i lost all my portals to them. also how do you finish the last phase? do you just need to kill her quickly? i felt like i was running in circles forever waiting for something to happen. do i need to succeed the memory game to kill her or can i fail it too?
Btw for crucible passive farming tier of the map doesnt matter, you can slap t1 maps and get the same progress towards crucible passive tree but the difference is that you one shot mobs even at 100%
Played this game on the PS4 a few years ago. It was so go damned bad I figured the game was garbabe. This league I started out cyclone maruader which was pretty hard to do. Followed your build path on this and have had a lot of fun with this game. Will play it next league. Thanks for the content.
Nothing, but the circle in the middle will will keep going until it takes up the whole map and then 1 shot anything inside. At least thats what i got from what he was saying.
The fight is such BS,. i have so much damage, i instantly kill her, like 1 second to remove all her HP, but then she disappear and go back to full hp, i killed her like 6 times she still went back to full hp??? like wtf, i have to keep killing her forever???
I rage quitted the game and didn't play for more than one week after that boss (I was motivated to do the 30 challenges for the hideout, but I completely gave up). I'm really fed up with GGG and their boss designs. that's not difficulty, that's fake difficulty (immunity phases most of the time, a lot of teleports, hard to see pattern..even harder when the game is laggy and blurry..)
Sadly I must agree, I hate the Sirus fight and this seems no better. Shaper, Elder and Uber Elder are a lot of fun, but Im really sad to see the newer bosses head in this unfun, obnoxious, un-intuitive direction :/
three years after, that fight is still a pain in the ass. I have a very tanky build but, it doesn't matter for that stupid fight, only a lot of DPS are needed to kill that shit before you have no portal. I memorized the Simon but that shitty game doesn't count my first placement and behaved as though it was wrong. then, I was so furious I did shit and wasted the rest. I don't even want to do that fucking fight ! I just want to unlock the 5th slot of my map device ! but I can't because GGG' killed all the fun ! with 2 voidstone, no T17 map loot, with 3 voidstones, no T17 map loot.... that's so frustrating !! I want Legion to unlock again the map device !! I don't care about uber bosses !! Normal bosses suck enough for me ! I don't want to suffer more ! I just want to farm my maps with 4 scarabs !!!
LOL I came here to watch your video on the guide, before starting her challenge and ended up mistakenly clicking start on the challenge, Luckily my character killed everyone... Success without a guide... I had the Exploding Arrow build... I even tried to pause mid-fight hoping it would have worked but completed the challenge in 15 secs...
i still don't understand the memory game.. top left, right.. what are you counting? I can see the highlighted areas and why you circle around at start but in the second part it's a mistery
The Maven is quasi-monolithoid. Meaning she is essentially formless but uses 'endra' (the brain) to build physical material, similar to Ego in Guardians of the Galaxy. So she carries her high dimensional powers in these various physical bodies that seems separate but are not. They are one.
got 5 splinters from shaper's guards or breachlords fight ( cant exacly remember which one ) 6 might be max if they can be corrupted into 130+q or even 7 perhaps
Thanks for that. Although i have a question about maven's other fights that i have in maps. Now, Maven uses some kind of red beams with red circles which kills me by degen my hp extremely fast and nothing is helping to cancel it. Either my immune to bleed, or immune to curse do not work. Is it just me being unlucky of her having it from a boss or is this normal? I'm stuck and i can't fight maven anymore because she kills me everytime.
@@rubenconde6078 glorious can do the same as replica and if u have a replica u can use glorious in the name of ahuana or so but you need life leech (not es)
tried her for the first time today, made it with 0 portals remaining and i was on 10% hp with no flask charges, luckily didn't fail the last memory game,, on the edge of my seat the entire time, this fight is fucking epic.
How can i see that thing in the middle of his atlas which shows which bosses hes had maven witness? Im trying to do the hidden but cant see which ones ive done and which ones i havnt
@@SphinxKingStone i know that already im playing a simple Arc elementalist I Think I should be fine with the gameknowledge I have from other games over the years
@@0Sweetsugar0 Still, it might be really rough once you hit the specials dps checks like atz. But if you're on act 8 on your own that's already pretty neat.
@@0Sweetsugar0 There is a heavy minmax culture around the game, but I wouldn't worry about that so much. If you are having fun you'll figure it out in time anyways.
I think she does pretty much all elemental damage except for the memory game, my archmage elementalist takes basically no damage from any of her attacks except if I screw up the memory game. I can't quite tank an entire barrage of her projectiles but they're fairly easy to dodge, the "cheese grater" is fully absorbed by my Primal Aegis (at least I think so?) and the ball lightning like moves from the core does nothing to me (again, Primal Aegis). I don't quite understand yet how to handle the first core phase when it spawns random bosses, I don't know if I should kill the random bosses or ignore them. My only big problem is the memory game, I can't tell in the clusterfuck of the final phase the pattern of the memory and since I'm archmage ignite I do slow and steady damage so I can't quite phase her. I easily survive one or two "wrong choices" in the Simon Says but I don't know how to act when I mess up the pattern. Overall I think this is a more interesting fight than Sirus, she does potentially a ton of damage but everything is properly telegraphed and can be avoided, very much like Uber Elder. Sirus has a few moves that don't allow for any misteps at all. If you're caught in the DIE! beam and can't tank it, you're fucked and it sometimes comes out of nowhere, same with Rain of Stars.
I wish I knew what you were talking about every guide I’ve watched rarely helps break stuff down to people who are new to end game. I am immediately lost when you start talking
Protip: turn the music off. You need to be able to hear when the degen starts chasing you and to see it is very difficult since its purple balls, when every other attack is also purple balls... Just different shades. If you turn music off and effects up, the degen balls make a bweebweebweeb sound before they start chasing giving you time to pqy attention to thel qnd drop them in a good spot. I beat her after three times and not having the degen everywhere because of no music is what did it. Also, i farmed untill i hat ten mil dps. Anyways a few tips: Dont put the degen too close to the bottom centee. Trust me, if you die and you return on top of degen, chances are you die again and the fight is over. Two, ensure that you can tank cascade of pain. The final phase becomes much easier that way. Just find where she is, go towards her and rush her down while tanking. If you are squishy,.you will need to run around like a madman within the small confines she creates for you, so good luck with that.
This is a very quick and rough guide for most of the mechanics in the Maven fight!
Will make a proper production visual guide later on if there's enough interest.
Hey ziz i have some trouble with the atlas.
I want to spawn the influence of a conqueror on my atlas, but when i socket the map on the map device it says that the level of the curent map is too low for a conqueror to occupy the region, but i dont have red maps of that regino since i dont have stones of that region... can u make a vid to help us noobs on that? thank u bro gl. see ya on stream
@@Argnos_Drugbal Watchstones go on any region, you don't have to use them only on the region you found them in
You could maybe take in the spectres using midnight bargains x2? That could save you a portal I suppose
Not bad fight, but the memory game needs to die in a fire.
Memory Game is what did Godgamer Quin69, Lol, he could not kill Maven due to memory game.
Memory game is fine, it's memory game + degens that's problematic
i swear the person that came up with a memory shiit game is just a physcho
6:34, 8:57, 11:39, 13:09 Memory game
If you are super confused like I was:
You don't have to stand in a certain third at a certain time. You only have to change thirds in the correct order with any timing, and when you finish, the expanding circle in the middle explodes - and like Zizaran explains, don't stand in it when it does that.
So no need to rush besides that, you can take your time to change thirds.
IIRC they disabled the reflect ability of racecourse boss in maven's fight in 3.13.1. So thats nice
damage reflection is good game design from the 90s
Even when watching the video and not playing I find the memory game extremely hard to follow. I'm not bad at memory games in general, I think there's some really bad visual clarity issues with it. I cannot imagine how people with any sight issues or colourblindness are dealing with it.
I've watched this twice and still can't tell whats going on. everything just blurs together
I am suffering now ... I have poor eyesight and during the battle it is impossible to see the stains on the floor, lasers, explosions and bright colors, it sucks ...
How to kill the maven : Have 250 mirrors worth of gear, facetank everything, ?, profit.
Oh I see, one more fight I'll never ever be capable of doing solo.
"you dont have crazy resists". You have 4000 more hp and 3500 energy shield more than the average player has that is currently trying their first maven :'D
1.5 years later I still cant discern anything going on in memory game. What a fucking joke
Just did my first Maven after watching your video, needed 11 portals but I did it!
5:33 in the 3.13.1 patch they changed so that the boss won't use the reflect skill during the maven fight
The best place for those degen pools is right in the middle of the arena, where you never want to stand at any point in her fight (melee).
I've watched 2 guides for this and the memory phase looks nearly un-doable. Maybe it is more clear when your doing it yourself. But I can't even see or tell what he being highlighted.
"Dont Bob Ross the Arena!" Got it!
Should have watched this video prior to my test haha. I didn't know I needed that advice
Maven's Memory Game and Sirus InstaKill Beam from out of the Screen can both burn in Hell
Aside from that, great guide
Using this guide, I attempted my first ever Maven fight today (softcore, of course) and downed her with only 1 death. Awesome guide Ziz, thanks a ton!
Congrats, I neededd 11 portals to down her, lucky me I had a second writ lol
this almost convinced me to uninstall
13:49 the old atlas tree looks disgusting now lol
no scarabs either
Best tip ever :D "don´t Bob Ross your arena"
I was high watching this video and I kept clicking on the play button because I thought the video stopped.
such a valuable video, containing so many equally valuable infos! thanks for doing this, ziz
i wish this guide focused on talking about the mechanics and less about the author's build
Dude, thank you lol. I was watching Subtractums vid and he spends SOO much time talking about weird ways to do the Maven Memory Game instead of actually showing it.
Bro called it a "quick guide" and it's 17 mins long lmao these RUclipsrs have no idea what quick actually means. Constantly drawn out content. Get to the point!
(BTW easily get to the point with the Maxroll boss guides, so much faster than watching a long ass video)
I appreciate streamers putting time and care into their youtube videos. Great work, ziz.
Very comprehensive Ziz! This will tide me over until our Lord and savior huizui returns to us
One detail I noticed from my first fight today is that the edges of the arena will flash gold when the maven brain is landing, it can help you locate the walkable tiles
If you can manage to time it right, or have endu charges on your build, you can also cheese a missed memory game by popping vaal immortal call
how much time you can use it... dont you need to recharge it killing stuff..
Not any more lol
You don't want to Bob Ross your arena had me dying xD
That atlas tree in the middle should be there since the beginning, after u got the first 2 points in any other tree on the atlas ;/ Its really annoying having to keep track of which bosses u already killed before that tree shows up ;/
+1
you should post on reddit. otherwise GGG doesn't see this and they clearly can't figure it out for themselves.
I really hate this fight, I have much more fun with Sirus. It's good that you don't have to kill her to unlock the uncharted realms tree, because of lot of players won't be able to do it, so they can still benefit from this tree, just not at the full extent
Thanks for the guide. It really helped me alot:)
Instant Recovery works through Maven beam, such as instant life flasks or life on hit.
Not to shit on the video, but I don't feel very confident or more prepared for the fight after watching it because ur 15k hp and can just facetank anything
same, I will shit on the video though. I rewatched it with putting him on mute and learned more, which is insane
I have adhd so this boss is my nemesis. I will try it for the first time in a few days in ssf following your dd necro guide :)
how many memory games are there in total? i feel like i lost all my portals to them. also how do you finish the last phase? do you just need to kill her quickly? i felt like i was running in circles forever waiting for something to happen. do i need to succeed the memory game to kill her or can i fail it too?
so a guide for people with the best gear, got it
thanks, i beat maven for the first time thanks to this tuto. I couldnt get a hold of those degen
Btw for crucible passive farming tier of the map doesnt matter, you can slap t1 maps and get the same progress towards crucible passive tree but the difference is that you one shot mobs even at 100%
Thanks for the explanation man
Great guide Ziz!
Played this game on the PS4 a few years ago. It was so go damned bad I figured the game was garbabe. This league I started out cyclone maruader which was pretty hard to do. Followed your build path on this and have had a lot of fun with this game. Will play it next league. Thanks for the content.
Very nice video, only thing missing: what is happening, if you fail memory game?
Nothing, but the circle in the middle will will keep going until it takes up the whole map and then 1 shot anything inside. At least thats what i got from what he was saying.
stepping into the wrong field turns it into a very strong degen i believe
The fight is such BS,. i have so much damage, i instantly kill her, like 1 second to remove all her HP, but then she disappear and go back to full hp, i killed her like 6 times she still went back to full hp??? like wtf, i have to keep killing her forever???
This video helped me kill her my first time! But that memory game can go pound sand.
Thanks Zizaran!
I rage quitted the game and didn't play for more than one week after that boss (I was motivated to do the 30 challenges for the hideout, but I completely gave up). I'm really fed up with GGG and their boss designs. that's not difficulty, that's fake difficulty (immunity phases most of the time, a lot of teleports, hard to see pattern..even harder when the game is laggy and blurry..)
Sadly I must agree, I hate the Sirus fight and this seems no better. Shaper, Elder and Uber Elder are a lot of fun, but Im really sad to see the newer bosses head in this unfun, obnoxious, un-intuitive direction :/
yep dude, after that i'm thinking about it, i'm just wasting my time and it won't go the challenge 36
I just attempted my first Maven fight, and jesus christ, it is one of the worst designed boss fights I've ever seen. Shit is dumb.
y, the autism in the GGG dev teams produces more and more useless bosses, a shame
three years after, that fight is still a pain in the ass.
I have a very tanky build but, it doesn't matter for that stupid fight, only a lot of DPS are needed to kill that shit before you have no portal.
I memorized the Simon but that shitty game doesn't count my first placement and behaved as though it was wrong. then, I was so furious I did shit and wasted the rest.
I don't even want to do that fucking fight ! I just want to unlock the 5th slot of my map device ! but I can't because GGG' killed all the fun ! with 2 voidstone, no T17 map loot, with 3 voidstones, no T17 map loot.... that's so frustrating !! I want Legion to unlock again the map device !! I don't care about uber bosses !! Normal bosses suck enough for me ! I don't want to suffer more ! I just want to farm my maps with 4 scarabs !!!
this boss is terrible and ridiculous that you need to do it and uber elder for getting your voidstones.
i just pay for a carry every league. the fights simply arent worth it they suck so much
memory game is the most hated mechanic in gaming history i guess.
Hi ziz, many thanks for this video! After watching it, I was finally able to kill the Maven and even got my first Maven´s orb!! Thanks a lot! :-)
LOL I came here to watch your video on the guide, before starting her challenge and ended up mistakenly clicking start on the challenge, Luckily my character killed everyone... Success without a guide... I had the Exploding Arrow build... I even tried to pause mid-fight hoping it would have worked but completed the challenge in 15 secs...
Need a PhD for these fights mah gawd
what does he mean by hold your invulnerability?
Thank you ziz first maven down
i still don't understand the memory game.. top left, right.. what are you counting? I can see the highlighted areas and why you circle around at start but in the second part it's a mistery
How is it even possible to get this much life, let alone that much energy shield, let alone both at the same time. Holy hell.
The Maven is quasi-monolithoid. Meaning she is essentially formless but uses 'endra' (the brain) to build physical material, similar to Ego in Guardians of the Galaxy. So she carries her high dimensional powers in these various physical bodies that seems separate but are not. They are one.
a year later, I still struggle with memory game while avoiding beams. soon as it's done I forget the whole pattern, my brain just goes:
BHEAM
that fight is no joke :D
got 5 splinters from shaper's guards or breachlords fight ( cant exacly remember which one ) 6 might be max if they can be corrupted into 130+q or even 7 perhaps
Thanks for this! Killed her deathless first try after watching.
at 9-05 why it highlighted 3 sectors with violet, but then 5 with green?
what is a gravity well and how do i make 12 of them?
How to make memory game easier. 1. Turn on local chat. 2. When the game plays, type in the order, e.g. TLRLTL (Top, left, right, left, top, left)
Damn why didn't I think of this, good advice!
Great idea, I always have plenty of time to stand still and type when killing an endgame boss.
@@soroganath2069 Yeah, because 6 characters takes so long to type huh.
I hope POE2 does away with DOT pools. Stupid mechanic.
"quick video how to kill maven " 15 mins. sure
nice guide still viable in 3.14. still memory shit exists
avoid the puddles. got it amigo
Thanks for that. Although i have a question about maven's other fights that i have in maps. Now, Maven uses some kind of red beams with red circles which kills me by degen my hp extremely fast and nothing is helping to cancel it. Either my immune to bleed, or immune to curse do not work. Is it just me being unlucky of her having it from a boss or is this normal? I'm stuck and i can't fight maven anymore because she kills me everytime.
1 question, why using the glorious vanity ? I dont get tht
overleech
Not overleech, 20% max hp gained as es (doryani) which gives you a ton of es, which you as inquisitor recover based on your life regen
Dunno, i tryed replica instead of vanity and i felt more tankyer 🤷
@@rubenconde6078 glorious can do the same as replica and if u have a replica u can use glorious in the name of ahuana or so but you need life leech (not es)
@@Zizaran gotcha, thanks, im loving the build so far anyway, strong and tanky 👍
tried her for the first time today, made it with 0 portals remaining and i was on 10% hp with no flask charges, luckily didn't fail the last memory game,, on the edge of my seat the entire time, this fight is fucking epic.
How can i see that thing in the middle of his atlas which shows which bosses hes had maven witness? Im trying to do the hidden but cant see which ones ive done and which ones i havnt
Absoloutely new to PoE First time playing going in "blind" with no build guide, currently at act8. Highly Appreciate your informative content mate
Playing poe without guide are kinda bad. You can start that but when you feel like you can't to red maps for example you should look something up
@@SphinxKingStone i know that already im playing a simple Arc elementalist I Think I should be fine with the gameknowledge I have from other games over the years
@@0Sweetsugar0 Still, it might be really rough once you hit the specials dps checks like atz. But if you're on act 8 on your own that's already pretty neat.
@@zeralmahib2549 so far i had 0 Problem with any Boss whatsoever I'll keep you Updated haha
@@0Sweetsugar0 There is a heavy minmax culture around the game, but I wouldn't worry about that so much. If you are having fun you'll figure it out in time anyways.
honestly pretty bad explanation. lots of tangents, no clear structure.
I think she does pretty much all elemental damage except for the memory game, my archmage elementalist takes basically no damage from any of her attacks except if I screw up the memory game. I can't quite tank an entire barrage of her projectiles but they're fairly easy to dodge, the "cheese grater" is fully absorbed by my Primal Aegis (at least I think so?) and the ball lightning like moves from the core does nothing to me (again, Primal Aegis).
I don't quite understand yet how to handle the first core phase when it spawns random bosses, I don't know if I should kill the random bosses or ignore them. My only big problem is the memory game, I can't tell in the clusterfuck of the final phase the pattern of the memory and since I'm archmage ignite I do slow and steady damage so I can't quite phase her. I easily survive one or two "wrong choices" in the Simon Says but I don't know how to act when I mess up the pattern.
Overall I think this is a more interesting fight than Sirus, she does potentially a ton of damage but everything is properly telegraphed and can be avoided, very much like Uber Elder. Sirus has a few moves that don't allow for any misteps at all. If you're caught in the DIE! beam and can't tank it, you're fucked and it sometimes comes out of nowhere, same with Rain of Stars.
The lowest amount of splinters you can get is 1. I got 1... maven splinter from one of the uncharted fights
A guide without the memory game explained? I guess I need another vid
i have such bad memory for the memory game. In general i have good memory but for stuff like this not.. its the stress
I hate that third phase memory game...
Omg as a boneshatter this fight is so annoying I’m thinking at this point the voidstone is not worth it. Can’t stack trauma 😂😢
Thanks Ziz, killed Maven on my first attempt thanks to this!
I wish I knew what you were talking about every guide I’ve watched rarely helps break stuff down to people who are new to end game. I am immediately lost when you start talking
Does the fight progress if you fail a memory game?
Yes.
Third phase sucks.
C’mon GGG.
If I die in the 3rd phase, I enter the portal and the beams hit me, I take degen and I die again?!
Is this Standard?
No that was ritual ssfhc, full vid is on yt
Holy shit old atlas looked so good. Sad it was trash compared to current one.
guide was helpful but never doing this on skele mage cant see the screen lol
First try kill, thanks for guide
It helped me not to go after Maven until I get explody chest.
What exactly are you doing with an explode chest in this fight? :D
yet to find a ziz video without him logging out. what an awful excuse of a hardcore player
Just log out 5head
wow i got to the last phase but lost every single memory game, basically lost all my ports to that shit :/
Protip: turn the music off.
You need to be able to hear when the degen starts chasing you and to see it is very difficult since its purple balls, when every other attack is also purple balls... Just different shades.
If you turn music off and effects up, the degen balls make a bweebweebweeb sound before they start chasing giving you time to pqy attention to thel qnd drop them in a good spot.
I beat her after three times and not having the degen everywhere because of no music is what did it. Also, i farmed untill i hat ten mil dps.
Anyways a few tips:
Dont put the degen too close to the bottom centee. Trust me, if you die and you return on top of degen, chances are you die again and the fight is over.
Two, ensure that you can tank cascade of pain. The final phase becomes much easier that way. Just find where she is, go towards her and rush her down while tanking. If you are squishy,.you will need to run around like a madman within the small confines she creates for you, so good luck with that.
it deals 12k damage left me with 1k
Yeah no, 6k I died twice
I’ve spent 7 divines on attempts for this boss im about to quit lol
heck is a memory game
Simon says
@@aldodzb The amount of times I've been interrupted on Simon with an emergency meeting...
15 min quick omegalul
"quick guide"
Video has over 14 minutes.
Pick one.
you dont really need a guide if you can just walk in the degen without taking damage...
15 min isnt quick
the memory game is toxic
This guide was not "quick" i dont need to know what your build does and what not i just want the boss mechanics lol