PSA, do not use acetone or isopropyl alcohol to clean scuffs or glue stains on the patent leather, the 2024 legend blue lacks a clear coat unlike the previous 11 retros. I had bought a pair with some glue stains on the patent leather so I tried cleaning it with acetone + q tip. As soon as a i dabbed a little bit of it on a glue stain it immediately ruined the shiny finish, as soon as it touched it was absorbed. This is why the patent leather feels kind of rough on these. Luckily I was able to exchange it for another pair at the Nike store.
@@brandonfryer5104 it's such a key detail.. for folks who rocked the originals in the 90s, it was so neat to see on your feet. My playoff 11 lows always looked aggressive 🔥
Real talk this medial flange/outrigger improved how they played on court too None of the retros have ever gotten this right, all of the retros are a more narrow shoe in the forefoot than the OGs we're, sadly. @nike this is like the last thing that needs fixing on the next run of XIs 🙌🏻 preeeeety please
I've always liked the fact that when the Columbia's would age (yellowed), it almost became a "new" shoe. I'm a big fan of the cream colored Columbia 11s. I had the 2001 retro, and it was 👌.
Great overview! After the initial excitement of receiving them, the details start to show; that thin PL, the hump and creasing in the toe, the pressed checker oattern on the CF plate with the misaligned dots that should've been a checker oattern, definitely that heel leather feels not tough, and the bumpiness of the PL plus discovering glue blemishes on areas. The souble trademark while a minor overlook is still something desired. The color tone of the clear outsole was one thing I liked, but lack of flair plus all the other factors missed at that cost which slightly increased left a feeling that the shoe's value did not match it. Thanks for bringing back the guitar riff in this one!
@efernandez2 i agree, it's a clean sneaker from the first impression. When you start to look closer at details, the right stuff just isn't there lol.. happy to add the classic comparison riff back once again, been a minute! 🙌🏻🤘🏻
Great video! I 100 percent agree with you on the materials and how much they cost! The main problem for me is the thin cut patent leather! Im afraid by the time they get it right they’re going to cost 300 if not more!
@@jimmyschlenk9502 very much, im equally if not more disappointed in the upper leather used. Really feels cheap like the 2012 white cement 4, not good!
Great review as always. I will note some of the thing that are changed from the OG are improvements in my book. As far as materials I think that’s on a shoe by shoe basis, which is sad. For $230 a pair you would think Nike could keep the quality consistent.
@tha9thwonder totally, we should see more consistency. I get the inflation of price over time it's about even but the quality for same price isn't there
@@ogorbust1697That’s not entirely true. I have a deadstock pair of playoffs (Taiwan) and the PL cut is almost identical to the retros. I just think the OG pairs were all over the place. But they were never as low as the 2008-2015 junk.
@@ogorbust1697 they feel excellent imo. i tie my shoes up properly so the fit and support is as stated, excellent! haha. the polyurathane insole really helps with step in comfort.
I agree with you- the original patent leather cut looks the best- the patent leather cut is too high on the 2024 version and combined with the shape it gives the shoe a swollen look.
Was looking forward to these all year until I started seeing the material quality. I’ll pick up a barely worn used pair sometime next year for like 170. Not paying retail for this
@Tha4704 nope, anything that oxidizes really.. like vintage guitars when the lacquer yellows around binding. That for example is also a natural patina.
I work in aviation and see a lot of carbon fiber. Carbon fiber tech IDs probably the tech that has advanced the most in the past 30 years and might be the most difficult to get exactly like the OG's... but it looks like they barely tried! I will say the texture/bumps/dips seen in the 2024 retro stuff is an artifact from the curing process of the carbon fiber. Kinda sad the Jumpman embroidered OG ankke don't have the ol' Jumpman Buttcrack. Guess they had refined the embroidery pattern by 95/96 🤷♂️
Higher cut on the patent leather is wayyy better for the 11s the leather on the upper is a little tough fresh outta the box..if you wear your shoes the leather will loosen up That’s straight common since. Great compression for sure ! Some other OG collectors don’t know what they talking about
@Ryanj2050 leather grain definitely will loosen with wear. But as ds example shown it was factory fresh thick cut. Didn't change that significantly when you look at my worn pair too. Heel a bit wider with wear for sure though on my og worn
i think they absolutely killed the shape for this shoe, but quality and materials does not reflect price point at all. will happily cop on the used/resale market once prices drop
@ogorbust1697 wish I could show you a pic. Not the leather upper, the shiny part above the sole. I let a buddy hoop in them after HS and he kinda junked them. I always kept them in the closet and over time they have turned pink. Lol
The problem with 11s now is that jb is making too much lol, so the quality def isn’t gonna be the same. I doubt they released 1 million pairs of 2016 space jams or 2018 concords.
@Panama00807 I'm not too sure on the numbers but I wouldn't think they'd be that far off. It's not the quality control that I see on this release but more so the materials used.
@Tha4704 i definitely prefer and wanted to see thicker cut patent. They can do it and did like the playoff '95 example i showed. Especially with price increases continuing, we should see that quality and thickness
Patent leather on these is horrible Soft asf they even fit different from my 2019 breds both size 11s breds is way tighter but this 2024 11s feel already broken in or mabye i just have to get use to them and break them in because i don't think i need 10.5 my toes is a already at top but these just creasing way to easy 🤦🏾♂️ dont want buy same shoe different size again i guess im stuck with size 11
That quality is ass I see creased leather already lol 😢 and patent leather peals after a while with them creases and cracks and those #45 models came out when trump was in office give me the 23 those are basically air trumps lol 250 for a 30 year old shoe they could have at least sown on the 23 or put a plastic one on that printed one will erase away
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PSA, do not use acetone or isopropyl alcohol to clean scuffs or glue stains on the patent leather, the 2024 legend blue lacks a clear coat unlike the previous 11 retros. I had bought a pair with some glue stains on the patent leather so I tried cleaning it with acetone + q tip. As soon as a i dabbed a little bit of it on a glue stain it immediately ruined the shiny finish, as soon as it touched it was absorbed. This is why the patent leather feels kind of rough on these. Luckily I was able to exchange it for another pair at the Nike store.
@@airtec87 good to know.. maybe some conditioning and buffing will smooth it out too
I love how you pointed out that OG outsole flare. That's always been a very easily missed detail for some that for me I was just so attracted to you.
@@brandonfryer5104 it's such a key detail.. for folks who rocked the originals in the 90s, it was so neat to see on your feet. My playoff 11 lows always looked aggressive 🔥
Real talk this medial flange/outrigger improved how they played on court too
None of the retros have ever gotten this right, all of the retros are a more narrow shoe in the forefoot than the OGs we're, sadly.
@nike this is like the last thing that needs fixing on the next run of XIs 🙌🏻 preeeeety please
@Scott.A.Hettenbach totally,that flared out midsole built for performance 💯
I've always liked the fact that when the Columbia's would age (yellowed), it almost became a "new" shoe. I'm a big fan of the cream colored Columbia 11s. I had the 2001 retro, and it was 👌.
@cuhson i absolutely love the patina on the patent leather, only time will do such beauty. Like lacquer aging on a guitar. 🤌🏻
Always the review of record & a great notification to get. No tax in Pa & I still don’t see it.
Another banger 🫡
Thanks for watching!
Great overview! After the initial excitement of receiving them, the details start to show; that thin PL, the hump and creasing in the toe, the pressed checker oattern on the CF plate with the misaligned dots that should've been a checker oattern, definitely that heel leather feels not tough, and the bumpiness of the PL plus discovering glue blemishes on areas. The souble trademark while a minor overlook is still something desired. The color tone of the clear outsole was one thing I liked, but lack of flair plus all the other factors missed at that cost which slightly increased left a feeling that the shoe's value did not match it. Thanks for bringing back the guitar riff in this one!
@efernandez2 i agree, it's a clean sneaker from the first impression. When you start to look closer at details, the right stuff just isn't there lol.. happy to add the classic comparison riff back once again, been a minute! 🙌🏻🤘🏻
Outstanding video and review.
@@eghazoul thank you! 👊🏻👊🏻
The gratitudes in the 72-10 Air Jordan 11s had the best leather in my humble opinion 🤔
Never had them in hand.. last years release was super thin flimsy patent creasing where it shouldn't.. not a good look
JB is cutting corners nowadays and increasing the MSRP..not surprisingly 😂😢
@@chenharry4848 I've got some friends straight up returning pairs, I'm on the fence lol
Shape looks good. I see the outsole difference. Thats definitely correctable.
@@veryfewrealleft1405 totally, it really takes away from the aggressive design when you're looking down at your feet.
Great video! I 100 percent agree with you on the materials and how much they cost! The main problem for me is the thin cut patent leather! Im afraid by the time they get it right they’re going to cost 300 if not more!
@@jimmyschlenk9502 very much, im equally if not more disappointed in the upper leather used. Really feels cheap like the 2012 white cement 4, not good!
Great review as always. I will note some of the thing that are changed from the OG are improvements in my book. As far as materials I think that’s on a shoe by shoe basis, which is sad. For $230 a pair you would think Nike could keep the quality consistent.
@tha9thwonder totally, we should see more consistency. I get the inflation of price over time it's about even but the quality for same price isn't there
Bruh at first I was hating on the rock into… but ts is tuff af
Taller patent leather on the new retro looks a lot better than the OG. I hope they don’t change it
I don't mind it but prefer the lower cut
The patent leather cut wasn't consistent on the ogs. I seen plenty of ogs that had a much taller paten cut than his ogs in the video
@CodyvsEveryone the ogs had variables for sure, depending Taiwan and China produced as well. None of them were as high as the newer retros though
@@ogorbust1697That’s not entirely true. I have a deadstock pair of playoffs (Taiwan) and the PL cut is almost identical to the retros. I just think the OG pairs were all over the place. But they were never as low as the 2008-2015 junk.
finally, i have all 3 retros og colorways on high tops, 1 low ie black and red, missing the white cobalt,
*watches whilst wearing the very subject of the video* awesome video 😎 n
@@DanTJones haha cool man! How do they feel?
@@ogorbust1697 they feel excellent imo. i tie my shoes up properly so the fit and support is as stated, excellent! haha. the polyurathane insole really helps with step in comfort.
I agree with you- the original patent leather cut looks the best- the patent leather cut is too high on the 2024 version and combined with the shape it gives the shoe a swollen look.
Was looking forward to these all year until I started seeing the material quality. I’ll pick up a barely worn used pair sometime next year for like 170. Not paying retail for this
@delirium3648 i totally get it, on the fence still if I sell or keep
3:40 “patina” in that context you’re using it in doesn’t only apply to copper metals?
@Tha4704 nope, anything that oxidizes really.. like vintage guitars when the lacquer yellows around binding. That for example is also a natural patina.
After i seen your review im returning my Jordan 11s....
@george._sir._gemini.175 sorry, that isn't my motivation but more of a reality check 😅
Do you happen to know how original 11s fit? I’m an 11 and found a good price for 96 Breds and they are a 12
@@MiffysGameRoom I'd go up half size. Full size might be a little big. I'm an 11 as well, 11 and 11.5 are good
I work in aviation and see a lot of carbon fiber. Carbon fiber tech IDs probably the tech that has advanced the most in the past 30 years and might be the most difficult to get exactly like the OG's... but it looks like they barely tried! I will say the texture/bumps/dips seen in the 2024 retro stuff is an artifact from the curing process of the carbon fiber.
Kinda sad the Jumpman embroidered OG ankke don't have the ol' Jumpman Buttcrack. Guess they had refined the embroidery pattern by 95/96 🤷♂️
Higher cut on the patent leather is wayyy better for the 11s the leather on the upper is a little tough fresh outta the box..if you wear your shoes the leather will loosen up That’s straight common since. Great compression for sure ! Some other OG collectors don’t know what they talking about
@Ryanj2050 leather grain definitely will loosen with wear. But as ds example shown it was factory fresh thick cut. Didn't change that significantly when you look at my worn pair too. Heel a bit wider with wear for sure though on my og worn
@@ogorbust1697 ummm I see what you saying
i think they absolutely killed the shape for this shoe, but quality and materials does not reflect price point at all. will happily cop on the used/resale market once prices drop
Was the patent leather soft on the og? I’m not sure why they’ve been making the patent so soft because they crease way more now.
@@Demond_31Reasons it's durable, doesn't crease where it shouldn't like these retros, especially last year's retro. Super funky creases
2:36 Jubilee 11 felt the best to me. So soft
Not all Space Jam 11's have thick leather cuts. My size 9.5 were thin and flimsy.
so the patten leather is supposed to feel like that??? lol thought i had glue all over mine
@Kdot98 it's not supposed to, should be smooth. This release is quite grainy, I haven't tried to clean it off but might soon
My OG 96's have actually turned pink......
@@rmw9242 really? Which part is pink?
@ogorbust1697 wish I could show you a pic. Not the leather upper, the shiny part above the sole. I let a buddy hoop in them after HS and he kinda junked them. I always kept them in the closet and over time they have turned pink. Lol
@rmw9242 if you're on ig shoot a photo @ogorbust
You mentioned that the midsole was polyurethane. I assume that was a mistake? I thought these were Phylon?
@@AllOutNoobHater insole is polyurethane, midsole phylon
@ ah gotcha. You might need to add an edit when you started talking about the midsole. You said polyurethane instead of phylon.
@@AllOutNoobHater Don't understand because Weartester has often said polyurethane for midsole.
The problem with 11s now is that jb is making too much lol, so the quality def isn’t gonna be the same. I doubt they released 1 million pairs of 2016 space jams or 2018 concords.
@Panama00807 I'm not too sure on the numbers but I wouldn't think they'd be that far off. It's not the quality control that I see on this release but more so the materials used.
12:52 if it’s really that serious why buy or you being sarcastic? Genuinely curious
@Tha4704 i definitely prefer and wanted to see thicker cut patent. They can do it and did like the playoff '95 example i showed. Especially with price increases continuing, we should see that quality and thickness
Patent leather on these is horrible Soft asf they even fit different from my 2019 breds both size 11s breds is way tighter but this 2024 11s feel already broken in or mabye i just have to get use to them and break them in because i don't think i need 10.5 my toes is a already at top but these just creasing way to easy 🤦🏾♂️ dont want buy same shoe different size again i guess im stuck with size 11
@lamontmcdaniels322 i hear you man. Not reflecting that price point by a long shot. Doubt I'll keep mine
@ogorbust1697 I don't blame you im stuck with mines sadly
Just not worth the price tag to mr
@@kimcheemonsta 💯💯
@@kimcheemonsta with the differences from OG, I'd be fine with it if we had better leather upper and patent
That quality is ass I see creased leather already lol 😢 and patent leather peals after a while with them creases and cracks and those #45 models came out when trump was in office give me the 23 those are basically air trumps lol 250 for a 30 year old shoe they could have at least sown on the 23 or put a plastic one on that printed one will erase away
They could have released those beat OG and told you they’re “remastered” and you peons would have bought them anyway lol 🤡🫵🏾