Mitsubishi Mirage - E-Bay Parts Cannon Fail
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- Опубликовано: 10 мар 2024
- In this video I have a look at a customers 2015 Mitsubishi Mirage with 1200cc's of thunder! He has been battling this EVAP code for a long time now but none of the crappy aftermarket parts have stuck so he's throwing in the towel.
-Enjoy!
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*FOLLOW UP-* The fella did call me about a week later after running a drive cycle and said now that EVAP system works it did flag a code for a small leak. Not sure if he fixed it himself at that point or what but he did not come back to me to see the job through. He did mention when he was working on it initially that he had a few mishaps underneath with some hoses or something like that. Any how just thought you guys should know.
-Eric O.
these have a tendency to crack the fuel sending unit at the lock ring due to corrosion
Thanks for the closure, Eric O. :)
Could be the hissing noise you heard while giving it the breath of life?
he has to stop overfilling his gas tank once the pumps clicks just stop, he is filling the neck and all the those hoses with gas and liquids act way different than air.
Thanks Eric
This is going to sound goofy but I'm glad you've been doing the "hey there viewer's welcome back" intro lately it's such a trademark of SMA
My favorite part is referring to every engine size as "The big"
@@yeahitskimmel "... It's got the big 1-8" lol
I always laugh if the CC is on and it interprets as "Self-Made Auto Channel"
@@yeahitskimmelMy personal favorite is "the classic (insert part number)"😂👍
At least Eric doesn’t have a noisy, thumping introduction music 🎵
As soon as you said we just met and you were getting down on your knees, I was just dying to have Mrs. O walk up to you and catch you in the act! Lol
I am a older person who doesn’t work on cars anymore and purge valves and all that stuff you were talking about I don’t understand at all. That said I sit and am throughly amazed at how you sit and explain the process of working towards the solution. Pure genius.
The reason I watch is to keep up to date with the newer vehicles (retired mechanic now a DIYer.)
"1200 cc's of thunder!..."
😄
Loved that. I used to have a Mitsubishi Colt with a 1.1L. I liked to say it had 55 Kilowatts of Fury.
@@seanward7676 I had a Daihatsu Charade 3 cyl she was a mighty 990cc & it used to piss big motored vehicles when I passed them on the highway most had to re pass me to feel better
@@seanward7676All that power and with a CVT and A\C, power too burn. I had a 2015 Mirage for a few months in 2018. Was mum's car with 2500 on the clock. Parked it as as it was impractical with 2 big dogs. Sat for a couple months then gave it to my niece as she just got her license. Perfect first car for her. Reliable, low miles and cheap to run and no power to do stupid stuff.
Got the big one two!
It needs a Chinesium propeller and wings to make it a kamakazee kar.
I had a good laugh at the "I know we just met" at about 16 minutes when you had to blow on the hose. Informative and funny video. Thanks.
the 'OH baby' while wiping his mouth after, had me rolling
I went to Louisville, Ky. for an automotive swap meet wearing your shirt this past Saturday and a guy asked if I was Wyattoneable. He recognized me from the "Special Delivery" video. Thanks for making me famous. :) I hope you and the family are doing well.
Your intros Kill me always " The Big " whatever size it is.
Also Mitsubishi Thunder LOL!!!
I tried the "do it the name of auto repair" on my wife last week. No go.
read mine..
You just have to appreciate the level of understanding and experience that makes this fix work. Very few people can do what we just watched. In my book Eric is the GOAT.
Being Gracious towards your customers is always a good thing, even if they aren't being nice. good job boss.
To all you DIY , I run a garden tractor, snow blower on site repair business. I know not everyone can diagnose. So I won’t yell at the parts cannon . BUT for crying out loud---1part at a time. Then clear coat and see if that worked . if not at least if you find a new problem now and reverse before you get totally confused I love Eric in his involved explanations. as a non car mechanic I need some coaching on these computer systems
" I need some coaching on these computer systems" ...... Well, for sure ya need diagrams.....either parts or wiring.....because cars are just rolling computers where various sensors tell the "brains" [ECM] to switch active parts ON or OFF. It's all this fancy stuff we're payin' for when ya buy a new car.
Take for instance the windshield wipers. Ol' skool was having a 3 position switch [off-slow-fast] connected directly to the wiper motor. New sh1t has a clickable rheostat that feeds the ECM which sends 12v to the wiper motor in various duty cycles....so ya might have 5 different speeds to set & the ECM sends the 12v to the motor in increments of time [duty cycle]....basically a square wave that changes "length" as view on a scan tool oscilloscope....which a good one can run ya $400 up to $2000. Hey !!! .all these "improvements" are somebody's cash cow....don't ya know
@xrisdavid785 IMHO, Intermittent wipers was the greatest option on a vehicle and still is.
You betya . Now even power equipment has it. Met a snow blower with a fuel injection system this year. Luckily Eric taught powers and grounds so was able to track it back to fault
Ivan @ Pine Hollow just went down a rabbit hole chasing a misfire on a Subaru. Turns out customer put junk aftermarket coils in, that could not handle the voltage from the alternator while running. Unplugged the alt, and ran fine!
Hi Eric, It doesn't seem to make any difference if you have ever seen this make, model ,year or whatever, you always fix them even when the trained dealer techs are stumped or just don't care! I think It is your diagnostic ability and procedures! I have been watching you for awhile now and you got this,period!!!🏁
Wow, the sound of those 78 horses are intoxicating 😜
Intoxicating.....or Nauseating?
why would anybody buy a car like this l1 master car and truck just turned 70i live in fl. can't remember last time a worked on a mit.@@bill8by5
I tell you something. When you put your foot down and release all those horses you are pushed back into the seat. I kept pushing the floor so hard it did push me back and sure enough I slowly got up to speed, just in enough time to have to break. Certainly a city car but I live in the country and went back to my Grand Cherokee, parking the Mirage for a couple months till I sold it to my niece as a first car. The CVT really hurts it.
Mitsubishi is underrated. Fantastic vehicles that hardly ever break down
Jeez you must be one of the lucky ones I used to be fixing them on a regular basis when I was working (retired now).
@LesReeves The techs in our shop would run and hide when one came in because it was always a.cluster you know what.
@@toenails. AMEN BROTHER.
I've had 6 and every one has been reliable and never broken down. Though a friend did crack the block in a Late 80's Magna which they were notorious for doing. I had a 1991 and it was fixed by that time. My '15 Mirage is still going strong, being driven by my niece. Only things I've had to replace over the years has been a gearbox & shocks in my 1983 Sigma, breaks & tires, exhaust, a cat in the '99 Verada, few batteries, belts, coolant hoses. Did have to fix rust in the Sigma, but all others had no rust. All were garaged except for the Sigma, a 1994 Magna, 1998 Express van.
@@2DogsVlogsThe only thing left to say is here in Australia they were made here & they were failing they then went all in with the 360 & that failed miserably so the company shut down & there are very few imported now days.
I'm surprised a nearly 10 year old Mitsubishi product hasn't turned into a pile of brown dust in upstate NY
Well, we have not seen the subframe.... But that is really the only place where they rust where it will cost you money in the long run.
We have 2017 that we bought in July of 2016. No rust and we are in CT where they use a lot of salt on the roads. They use a lot of galvanized metal in the lower construction. Also if I drive carefully around 45 mph I can squeeze 52 mpg.
Nah it is their name It;s abitfishy (fish oiled)🤣
Always a good day for SMA!
10:35 LOL...the battery looks larger than the engine!
Haha, what a beast!
Probably is LOL.
As usual amazing diagnostic abilities
Well you can laugh all you want about the Mirage, but it brings me from A to B in resonable comfort (full spec, also 2015). I had zero defects and zero rust in also a rust belt (NW Europe). Average 60 mpg over 85000 miles. Zero oil consumption. Just a little fuel a set of little tyres, two tiny brake discs, fluids and a small battery. That's it.
You could've also bought a VW 3 cylinder and only needed two timing chain sets in those 85k mi lol.
Can't deny that its gutless though. In places with short highway ramps it could really use a little more power
@@stevenmarsden2257 how dare I inconvenience other drivers by merging and forcing them to move one lane over or let me in!
I guess semis and other large commercial trucks are super-screwed on those same on ramps.
@@NickolasBrielmaierIf that car has the same power my Ka+ has It should be ok in 3rd it should do 120KMs/h at between 4K and 5k revs
These cars are pretty popular in my area and to their credit, even with a CVT, power train failures are pretty low, sometimes you get one with high mileage and the engine is a little noisy, but I've seen it a couple times that it's just piston slap when the motor is cold in the morning, maybe Mitsubishi missed the mark a little with their NVH, my only dislike for those cars is how fragile they look, they look like you can run over a paperclip and you'll snap the control arm in half or something.
Good diagnosis Good fix, well done
I started watching your videos to learn. I still find them a great source of info but now I'm in it as much for the humor.
It's not just ebay, it's big chains too. Had to get a map sensor and throttle position sensor for my '06 Dodge dakota. The original semsors lasted 11 years, the Standard Motor Products I bought from O'reillys lasted 10 months. Also needed hub assemblies. Bought Autozone duralast gold hubs....junk out of the box.
They should be under warranty though at least..
@@djsi38t They were. I didn't bother returning the sensors. I don't need the same junk twice. I could have gotten a replacement set of hub assemblies but I figured why get the same junk again. I got my money back.
i find these videos so relaxing, the way you explain things and then get into it has me glued every time.. cheers from australia.
For a minute there I though you (Eric O) and the Mitsu were gonna get a room with all that blowing going on lol
I like your honesty and advice.
You walk your viewers through your work very well and I have learned by watching.
Thank you
I agree, that online stuff is junk. I have been having good luck with Rock Auto, so they are my main go-to store. Can't afford the big box parts.
Eric you crack me up with your antics and sayings!!! Getting on your knees only the boys appreciated. Too funny man
Last Year..I was asked to repair a no start 0 turn lawnmower. The owners said they spent 1k on getting it running.
The previous so called Technician for lawnmower. Installed the wrong parts. I bought all of the correct parts and got it running. I only spent $50.00 vs $1000.00
😅😅
The owners were very happy. I donated my labor since I knew the kid. They bought a belt for the mower deck. She runs real good.
I removed all of the junk and threw it in the trash.
Hell yea new south main!
Thanks for the Service Info Tech Talk, cheers
You are totally correct about ebay, Amazon parts, junk!! It bit me once, I will never again by any parts from either sites!!
It also goes that you should stay away from appliance parts that are not oem, I’ve figured out that a lot of the elements and safety items ie, thermostats and thermal fuses and other sensors are faulty and don’t last very long or can even cause a fire 🔥 because they are too heavy made to be able to blow! Or too cheaply built.
And the Eric dose it again. You Sir are a GOD OF FIGURING STUFF OUT. YOUR MY HERO.
You may never read this, but I am glad you make time to share your mechanical experiences with us out here in La La Land... I've known other mechanics, but not with your experience. And a big hello to Mrs. "O". Keep the video coming.
Tks you very much BRA for thoses videos. They make me relaxing after a long day behind the wheel of my tractor pulling a tanker doing from Montreal Quebec Canada to McAllen in the Texas ! People drive really good here, not so fast, a lot of courtesy on road !!!!😅😮.
Another very cool video. Your presentation style is a great blend of gentle humor and clear explanation of technical data and ideas that can get fairly complicated. You would be a very good teacher at a vocational school.
Awesome work and advice, as always!
I am from Winnipeg, up in Canada, and I just started watching all your videos. I really appreciate the down to earth honesty that you display. If you make a mistake, you do not try and hide it. However, your skill at diagnostics is well above average! Keep up the great work, and keep the videos coming!
I do not intend to do repairs but sure do like to see your videos and share your skills and tools required....Thank You..
Thanks for the video Eric.
Recently I heard a radio conversation between a police dispatcher and a Sheriff's deputy near Cortland New York; nothing in their words was out of line, but the tone of their voices, their pauses between words and short periods of silence told a much different story - It was a Friday evening and the guy pulled over by the Deputy had an expired NY inspection sticker ... from 2016 (it's 2024 now) I wouldn't want to be that guy.
E-bay parts cannon fail. *slaps hands together* This should be good.
Excellent teaching as always. Thanks
Eric, this is absolutely true of the new aftermarket stuff. I've had success with genuine used parts sourced via eBay.
Stay the course steady as she goes brother
Good explanation! Just love all the generic white box parts also.
Oh what it's about time we see a Mitsubishi in the shop! Great cars... supremely underrated (underpowered as well) but had mine without any probs now going on 14 years..
Awesome advice! Way-ta-go Eric-O!!!!!👍
Another great video. Thanks.
Learn from the master keep the great work as always 👍👍
Good job Eric. Good advice about today's auto parts. Yes, it's hard to find the right oem part now days. I had the same issue myself when looking for a parts for my car.
Thank you for the diagnosis and followup. You solved the main problem, once the system started working here comes the next problem. Sometimes it's cheaper to change the hoses that were removed and reinstalled especially if they're old and questionable.
Thanks for the good advice, (hope your kids listen as well).
Glad you differentiated between no name hustle sites and established online retailers especially with the camera angle showing the RA magnet collection on your cabinet😁
Eric is right about online parts, I learned hard way, bought a Motorcraft fiel line pressure sensor, it said Motorcraft, it wasn't, installed the part, did not take care of problem, so went to brick and mortar store and got right part, GREAT ADVICE ERIC,
Thanks for an interesting video and the follow-up!
You’re the best. I totally agree with you that those cheap parts are junk. Aaron from Canada
Thank you for another great video. Cheers
When I was young whatever I could afford was the part(s) I installed, (my own car, no others). As I became more successful I was able to purchase better quality parts. I have found over the years that there is a direct correlation to how many times you have to do the job to the price of the part.
Excellent advice about online parts.
Hilarious! SMA posts a video about a Mitsu with evap issues, and I'm over here dealing with a bad control wire to the vent solenoid on my Eclipse 😂. Thankfully I'm not out of inspection as like in this video, so I was waiting for warmer weather to start tracing the wire and find the fault..
Ford Tech Makuloco did a video on counterfit Ford parts a while ago. Very interesting.
I saw that one. I checked the spark plug boxes I got from Rock Auto after seeing that video. Turns out the spark plugs were legit and only about 1/3 the price that the dealer wanted.
Your friend at Pine Hollow had the same complaint recently with the new coils someone put into a Subaru he was diagnosing that wouldn't run when the alternator was connected. Found out the coils were just junk aftermarket and wouldn't work right when the voltage was above 12 volts which is always the case when the alternator is charging the battery. Of course, once OEM coils were put in, all was right again.
That was an interesting case study... 2 & 1/2 videos on the fake ignition coils 😮
(The last was the OEM radio/HVAC control module assembly causing the parasitic draw)
Wrenching with Kenny just had a video on the something about cheep aftermarket parts.
Couldnt agree more with you about Amazon parts. I've recently been guilty of doing just that for a faulty ABS sensor and both were faulty out of the box. Sent me on a wild goose chase but proper testing confirmed they were faulty and a quality oem part sorted the issue
Funny… I had an evap code a few months ago and replaced the canister vent valve with a cheapo Amazon part. The fix lasted a month before I got the code again. Just before watching this video I ordered another valve from Amazon - but this time I made sure it was a genuine Denso :)
Nice straightforward diagnosis of the EVAP system. They really aren't that complicated on non-turbo vehicles, but that one uses ORVR so it's a little spicier. Something I rarely work on since my county doesn't have emissions testing. But when I do it's usually the purge valve stuck open, making the engine rich and hard to start after a quick stop.
14 seconds in and I'm LMAO with Mr O. I love this guy!!
Excellent job,!!!!
Your observation about the cheap online parts is a very good 'heads up' to the quality of manufacture.
I've been selling auto parts at various 'mom and pop' stores for approx. 45 years and presently work part time in a 'brick and mortar' parts store and we hear it all the time.
Someone calls or comes in to get prices and says they can get them a lot cheaper on amazon or ebay. We tell them good luck... and have had quite a few come in a while later needing a replacement because their 'cheaper' part was junk right out of the box.
I get that alot my customers swear by eBay and Amazon parts but none of work I put the OEM parts on every thing works great
When I first started EVAP faults drove me crazy but now I find they are usually easy... unless the parts are buried...
Love your vids, I've learned so much about troubleshooting newer car electronics on your channel! #1 thing I've learned.......I'll keep my 64' Chevy truck running and never sell it! LOL
Before the pandemic, I almost pulled the trigger and bought a Mirage with a manual transmission ($13K out the door), but after the test drive, I didn't think I could handle all 78 horses in that 1.2L.
And at the opposite end of the Chunesium fake parts spectrum is the neighborhood "chain garage" that just tried to charge a buddy of mine $800 for four stinking ignition coils. I told him about fakes, ripoff shops, and pointed him to a source for OEM coils and told him I'd put them in for him. So frustrating.
6 mercedes benz coils for 3500 bucks for the oem...how does that sound?.
@@djsi38tFCP Euro is your friend for European parts.
I've bought a couple of surplus non-fitting OEM oxygen sensors and treated them as universal parts by changing the plugs. They were approximately half the price of an OEM sensor with the correct plug. They were durable and effective. I leave the generic ones where they belong.
Wow. Tight spot. Good job
The ole Happy ending outro gets em every time!
YOU'RE THE MAN, BRO!!
Nice work
Hey Eric! Just a suggestion, you should put banana jack leads on your load testing test lites, then you can use your AES wave terminal leads...no more "gingerly front probing". I've been doing it for years and I'd highly recommend it. Cheers!
dedication to the craft...
Afternoon Eric👍👍
I've been bit by Chinese parts. Had a dual tank Ford pickup with in tank fuel pumps. One quit so I pulled the tank and swapped the fuel pump and hanger assembly. Return check valve was non existent or stuck open though so that tank would overfill when using the other tank. New pump hanger under warranty, pulled the bed that time as it's easier than pulling a full tank. Same thing. Luckily I left the bed off. Returned second Chinese hanger and bought a $400 OEM one. No issues. My guess is the Chinese one was reverse engineered from a Bronco one (single tank) so it didn't have a check valve.
I inherited one of these cars and its like driving a go cart but its a decent back up car.
Ivan just had shitty coils the customer bought for a Subaru that cause the engine to crap out when the alternator started charging the battery. After market shitty parts
I learned my lesson on Chinesium parts building a motorcycle for my niece. The bike I bought needed rear directionals, from the image the Chinesium ones looked just like factory originals but were about 1/3 the price so I bought some. I installed them and the seemed to work just fine, but then my niece tells me she failed stated inspection when one of them didn't work. I pulled off the failed part and opened it up and was flabbergasted by how cheaply the part was constructed, one of the wires was wrapped around the spring that kept tension on the light bulb, it wasn't even soldered, just wrapped. Fortunately I had some factory originals on hand for another project and replaced the Chinesium parts and she was good to go. I'll buy aftermarket parts for my vehicles, but only from a reputable source, no more cheapy Chinesium for me.
1200 CC’s of THUNDER! Ha gotta love Eric!!
I have a concern.
Concrete is really hard on the knees. So, when you’re trying to check a purge valve on a Mitsubishi, carry a soft pillow with you and let your knees have a break. You only get two of them and they do wear out.
And my wife came into my lab LHAO and told me to watch this video.
Apparently, luckily for me, she has a dirty mind.
Love that the greeting is back. That is so ™️ South Main Auto.
Great video, Mr. O! Thanks for taking us along!!
Mrs O is going to be mad when you get holes in the arm of your hoodie from laying on the dirty battery.
Great Work As always...Man Against Machine Who made who....🤟
Great lesson Eric! When I was a Chrysler tech for years, I always, and still do, preach about using quality OEM if possible, parts. I not just trying to sell MOPAR stuff as OEM is the best quality 90% of the time. This does not mean name brand High Performance parts are bad, though as some are better made than OEM because OEM was designed for the average everyday driver.
I agree with the online vendors quality. I also chuckled at the filing cabinet covered in Rock Auto magnets (one per order) It really does depend on what you're buying. Rock Auto is about the only online vendor I will buy from..again..being smart about the brand names they offer is key.
Sage advice on parts and DIY plus integrity. Getting spicy on a first date too. I mean.. whoa. 😅
Awesome video as always! Out of curiosity what is the program you used to get the print out for car. Being doing research and looking to do the next step in repair work at home.
Another fine job
Good video i use rock auto they seem to have good quality parts!
local parts retailers sell the same garbage they sell on Amazon and Ebay, I often have to hit the forums to find the places that sell parts that were made by the same companies that made the OEM parts for my old Jeep and these places often have an Ebay store. Obviously a $15 oxygen sensor is gonna be a wast of time, but I have had more problems with parts purchased from local retailers than online.
The Master strikes again!