Toaks Siphon Jet VS Trangia Alcohol Burner Firebox Nano Stove Boil Test

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  • Опубликовано: 21 дек 2024

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  • @khay9833
    @khay9833 5 лет назад +5

    It's official! I received a Firebox Stove and some couple extra goodies for Christmas! So excited to get out, explore my state, and have a blast with my new outdoor stove!
    Much love from Atlanta and Happy New Year!

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +1

      That is so great to hear, let me know what you think about your first burn. Have fun out there and thank you for the support!! Happy New Year to you as well.

    • @zero-ol2nt
      @zero-ol2nt 5 лет назад +1

      You will love it! If I could only take one item with me besides my pistol of course it would be my firebox stove.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +1

      Lol thank you for the support!

  • @rogerehinger6694
    @rogerehinger6694 5 лет назад +5

    Off subject but my granddaughter and I did the initial burn on my new 5 inch. Hot dogs had to do for a New Year's day luncheon. Great fun, she ate two. I've been telling people about your channel, clean family friendly, fishing, and cooking. One couple stopped to look it up before leaving our store.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      That is awesome, thank you so much for your support and word of mouth. Means a lot to me. I am glad that you and your granddaughter could enjoy a lunch of hot dogs, making those memories is the best thing to do. Have fun out there with your stove, Cheers!

  • @pastrybaker72
    @pastrybaker72 5 лет назад +6

    Since the temp has dropped, here in the south, I've been camping quite frequently. Your Firebox Nano is unparalleled, in my humble opinion. It's compatibility, it's use of fuel/wood, and the durability is second to none. Thanks for your contributions to the camping/hiking community, Steve.
    P.S. Hoping the best for you and your family in 2020.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you for the kind words, I really appreciate that. Glad you have been out enjoying your Nano stove and making great food and memories. Have fun out there and Happy New Year to you and your family as well. Cheers my friend!

  • @RatdogDRB
    @RatdogDRB 5 лет назад +1

    Lovin' all the innovations with the camping/cooking gear. Thank you for honest/heads-up testing. Nice to see how the new stuff compares to the tried/true.

  • @Tishers
    @Tishers 5 лет назад +1

    I bought a full size Firebox to accompany my Trangia for fuel-flexibility and cooking options. I liked the combo so much that I gave it to my girlfriend and bought a second one for myself. I can't wait to use the cooking pot (also bought for Christmas) to try and do a roast chicken in a few weeks.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +1

      Nice! I hope it turns out great and you have a great time doing it! My tip for cooking most anything outdoors is air on the side of lower heat rather than risk burning. Take your time and enjoy the process!.👍

  • @dansklrvids7303
    @dansklrvids7303 5 лет назад

    My nano is nothing short of a wonder: I’ve used wood, pellets, my trangia, and esbit. Solid build, easy to set up and take down. Totally satisfied.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +2

      That is great to hear, thank you for the feedback. It is a great little stove, especially for its size. I hope you get out many more times to use it and make great memories!

  • @archetypalculinarian
    @archetypalculinarian 5 лет назад +21

    Don’t discount the fact that you can carry fuel in the trangia, and that it comes with a simmer ring. It is unmatched in the world of alcohol burners in terms of ease of use and convenience.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +2

      It definitely has its perks and conveniences! Thanks for watching and commenting!

    • @Martian74
      @Martian74 5 лет назад +2

      Yes, sometimes in winter I use the simmer ring under the metal plate I am eating off to keep my food warm while I eat. Plus they last forever and work every time. This test shows how well the Trangia design has held up. A drop or two difference in fuel would account for the difference in burn times. Here in Australia you aren’t allowed to burn solid fuel in most national parks so trangia is the way to go.

    • @oddlytimbotwillison6296
      @oddlytimbotwillison6296 5 лет назад +1

      These things keep me coming back to the trangia again and again.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +2

      @@Martian74 I agree, the trangia is well worth its weight

    • @Oegonblick
      @Oegonblick 4 года назад

      Any thoughts on using the Trangia simmer ring with the Toaks siphon stove?

  • @martinoutdoors6941
    @martinoutdoors6941 5 лет назад +3

    Good info, I didn’t know about the not letting the trangia burn out of fuel....

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      Thank you, glad you found the info helpful!

  • @starlingblack814
    @starlingblack814 3 года назад

    Yes, I agree a one (1) inch head space is far from optimal. Unused fuel can be reclaimed to burn again. I appreciate your videos and they verify my own results. Thank you!

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  3 года назад

      Thank you for your feedback and support!

  • @HUZ9k3s5w
    @HUZ9k3s5w 5 лет назад +6

    Notice that when the outside temperature drops, as it usualy does this time of the year, titanium alcohol burners requires more effort to ignite and bloom than the Trangia, since titanium does not conduct heat very well. I seem to recall Hiram Cook did a few test on that with different titanium burners by Toaks, and that is also my experience when trying to use my Evernew burner vs the Trangia during winter.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +1

      Very good information thanks for the input 👍

  • @ksdj1
    @ksdj1 5 лет назад +2

    Good comparison. I have tried different stoves, but seem to default to my Trangia. I like the fact that it can store fuel and has flame control via the lid. The small differences in boil time and burn time seem minor to me. Best wishes for a safe, healthy, and prosperous New Year to you and your awesome family!

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      Thank you for the comment, I sure appreciate it Happy New Year to you and your family as well, your support is awesome!

  • @GrumpyGrunt
    @GrumpyGrunt 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks, Steve. Good to know the Toaks fits and works so well in the Nano. The first time I went to use my Pathfinder spirit burner in the Nano (spoiler: it doesn't fit), I was cussing myself for not trying that combo before I went out. It was so close to fitting, though. I got a good laugh out of myself that day and learned a valuable lesson.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +1

      UGH!! Live and learn huh? Thanks for the comment, I appreciate you watching!

  • @sooohum
    @sooohum 4 года назад

    Super useful...was debating between a toaks and a trangia...this decided me, and thanks for the tips on how to use! It will work perfect inside my toaks woodstove.

  • @jtucker4201
    @jtucker4201 5 лет назад

    Thanks for the timely comparison, Santa brought me a Toaks Siphon stove.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      That is awesome, I hope you enjoy it. :)

    • @jtucker4201
      @jtucker4201 5 лет назад

      @@fireboxstove Thanks. I have several different Trangia pot stands but I keep falling back to using my Nano - the other pot stands all have something which makes them less than optimal for the pots I use. The only (very minor) problem I've had with the Nano is that I had problems getting the valve of the off-brand Chinese gas burner (Bulin) through the feed ports - 30 seconds and some emery cloth fixed this problem.

  • @Shanecoffeyoutdoors
    @Shanecoffeyoutdoors 4 года назад +1

    Love stove testing! Great comparison.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  4 года назад

      Thanks Shane, sure appreciate it.

  • @GuyonaMoose
    @GuyonaMoose 2 года назад

    Love the trangia! It just simply works, Always. Cant wait to get my hands on a ti nano after years of tire kicking.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  2 года назад +1

      Yes, the trangia represents the standard but I'll tell you what, that toaks siphonjet is somewhat of a breakthrough in my opinion. It's amazing how fast it blooms and how little fuel it uses to get my cuppa on 👍😎

  • @studiocorax8790
    @studiocorax8790 3 года назад

    I just transitioned from Trangia to Toaks because of weight and volume (I still appreciate the Trangia burner and kitchen very much). Now I know that the Toaks burner fits with the Firebox, which then will appear on my wish list.

  • @mrwes100
    @mrwes100 5 лет назад +1

    How about a test with a Fancy Feast on the floor?

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +1

      Might need to happen lol, thanks for watching!

    • @mrwes100
      @mrwes100 5 лет назад

      Firebox Stove That would be great. The version with the carbon felt. 👍

  • @SeniorHiker77
    @SeniorHiker77 3 года назад

    Nice review. I just received my siphon today and will do a review this weekend. ✌

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  3 года назад

      That is great, thanks for watching!

  • @MrWmburr7
    @MrWmburr7 6 лет назад

    Thanks, Steve, you answered my question from another video.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  6 лет назад

      Good to hear, thank you for watching!

  • @skotieboy
    @skotieboy 10 дней назад

    Interesting gearing you mention its not recommended to let the Trangia run completely to the end of the fuel supply. I've not heard that before.
    Can it damage the burner?
    What would everyone recommend instead? Maybe capping it with a small amount of fuel still inside?

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  9 дней назад +1

      You nailed it. You want to put it out before it runs dry as the alcohol inside regulates the temperature of the stove itself if it's allowed to run dry it overheats which will eventually cause fracturing on the top lip.

    • @skotieboy
      @skotieboy 8 дней назад

      @fireboxstove that's really useful. Thank you. Shall make a point of doing this in future.

  • @emmgee7153
    @emmgee7153 5 лет назад +2

    You should be Outdoors with a slight breeze and see how well they do.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      True, that could be helpful!

    • @lizard2425
      @lizard2425 5 лет назад

      I think the Firebox would help in that situation. T'would be a goot test, in the open vs in nano...

  • @simondean9127
    @simondean9127 4 года назад

    Do people think the two toaks varied in burn time due to the oxygen supply difference between the two heights or due to the burn efficiency with the top of the flame on the higher height not being able to bloom properly? Im new to this stuff!

  • @feartheduck6664
    @feartheduck6664 5 лет назад

    I use my nano with the trangia and olicamp mug. The set up has never failed me. When in the field prepping food a minute or 2 extra is not a bother! Overall, lightweight, durable, convenient. The 1 time I (stupidly!) knocked the trangia over and lost the meths, I simply got a few twigs and was good to go.

  • @abefrohman1759
    @abefrohman1759 5 лет назад +1

    The R&D never ends 😁

  • @woodwoman9130
    @woodwoman9130 4 года назад +1

    Are alcohol burners okay to use indoors?

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  4 года назад +1

      They can be but there are a lot of factors to consider therefore I recommend you consult the manufacturer to know which fuels and or other considerations they recommend.

  • @kimpriessloft371
    @kimpriessloft371 3 года назад

    Thanks for the video! 👍 About the two Toaks - what was the distance between the top of the burner and the bottom of the pot? Thank you 😁

  • @sherry866
    @sherry866 5 лет назад

    Couldn't last to the end, outcome ? If not that's ok too

  • @ScottOut-n-About
    @ScottOut-n-About 2 года назад

    I’m pretty sure Hiram cook did a video with the toaks and a simple wire stand and found the 1” headspace gave a faster boil than the original height of 1.5” between stovetop and stand. I assumed that would translate to the Nano but your video suggests otherwise. Good to know! Now I need to test it out for myself.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  2 года назад +1

      I have found a little more space allows for more flame development which in turn feeds back more heat to the burner. (To a point of course) 👍😎🙏

  • @cheeseburger9232
    @cheeseburger9232 5 лет назад +2

    What fuel you using?

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +3

      I was using de-natured alcohol here, it is my go to fuel. Thanks for watching!

  • @OHOTNIK777
    @OHOTNIK777 5 лет назад

    Здраствуйте это на спирте работают печи?На природе супер отдыхаете рыбалка жареная рыбка👍.На какую камеру видео снимаете?

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +1

      I use my S10 phone to film with, works great. Thanks for watching!

    • @OHOTNIK777
      @OHOTNIK777 5 лет назад

      @@fireboxstove Thank you, excellent camera shoots and nature is just class!

  • @Sokol10
    @Sokol10 3 года назад

    2:39 Looks like that the '1" sweet spot' for alcohol stoves fast boil was "burned" by Firebox Nano. ;)

  • @alx252
    @alx252 4 года назад

    how can 2 identical stoves run out at different times? did someone fill in the wrong amount of fuel?

    • @xenaguy01
      @xenaguy01 3 года назад

      1/2 ml of added fuel can cause one to burn longer. So can 10 ml of distance to pot.

  • @scgator7434
    @scgator7434 4 года назад

    How much fuel was added to each one?

  • @wayneandrews1933
    @wayneandrews1933 5 лет назад

    Are you my friend going to do this with your big Stove stove

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      No, I'm not planning on it since the trangia alcohol burner is more suited for use in the large stove.

  • @normanmallory2055
    @normanmallory2055 5 лет назад

    That was a great test , i like that ..well done.. What firebox is used for the burners ?

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +1

      The Toaks burner is used mostly for the Nano unless you HAD to use it for the 5" Firebox and you would want to use the Adjustable Fire Grate with it. The Trangia fits in both of our stoves and clicks into place with our firesticks and Nano sticks. Thanks for watching!

    • @normanmallory2055
      @normanmallory2055 5 лет назад

      @@fireboxstove Thank you I need to look into a alcohol burner. I'm glad you used different fuels to test.. I've heard the burners will burn any fuel, but I see that's not the case..If a person wants performance.

  • @tysadventures1
    @tysadventures1 5 лет назад

    Awesome video! Interesting test!!

  • @gabrielcr78
    @gabrielcr78 4 года назад

    great video! have u made any testing with the evernew titanium burner? if so, how would you compare it to the toaks burner when used with the firebox nano?

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  4 года назад

      I do believe we spoke to you on the phone today about this. Let us know if you still have questions though. Thanks Gabriel!

    • @gabrielcr78
      @gabrielcr78 4 года назад

      @@fireboxstove yeaht!!! i couldn't wait for reply and called. hehe thanks a lot you guys have a great customer service! also thanks for the video! really helpful!

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  4 года назад

      @@gabrielcr78 thank you, I appreciate the comment! Thank you for watching, I am so glad you found this video helpful! Have fun out there!

  • @nattybumpo4384
    @nattybumpo4384 6 лет назад

    The Trangia will boil quicker if it also sits on the floor. All nice kit!

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  6 лет назад

      Thank you for watching, glad you enjoyed it.

  • @hundekacke
    @hundekacke 3 года назад

    Oh man I really need the Nano too. It seems to be underestimated by its size. I need it for the mountain trail from Geneva to Nizza. 😍

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  3 года назад

      That would be perfect!! Let us know what you think when you get to try it out.

  • @johnanthony8447
    @johnanthony8447 5 лет назад +3

    My man got the micrometer out some serious science going here lol

    • @toddruch2744
      @toddruch2744 5 лет назад

      John Anthony, its actually a calipers, both do measure but micrometers are tighter tolerances. Not hating just saying.

    • @alecto1550
      @alecto1550 5 лет назад

      @@toddruch2744 stop with the hate speech, maybe he's just a little shy!

  • @martinfoy5167
    @martinfoy5167 5 лет назад

    Hi steve , I think you might have gotten a different result from the trangia if it was also lower down as the heat is in the tip of the flame ( maybe a quicker boil time ) thanks for showing and happy new year 🔥👍

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +1

      Yes, the results would definitely change with a height adjustment.

  • @patriceb26
    @patriceb26 5 лет назад

    Bonjour So which one is the best ?

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      They both fill different needs, they each have their own perks. Just depends on your situation. If all you are doing is boiling water and weight is your biggest concern than Toaks makes more sense, if not then the conveniences of the Trangia make it the best choice.

    • @patriceb26
      @patriceb26 5 лет назад

      Ok Merci 🤗👍

  • @PaulBuikema
    @PaulBuikema 6 лет назад

    Nice one Steve.

  • @buckshot4428
    @buckshot4428 5 лет назад

    So you had 2 Toaks stoves with the same amount of fuel, but one burned about two minutes longer. I much prefer the Trangia for many reasons even though it came in last, but not by much. Happy New Year.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      Happy New Year to you as well, thank you for watching and for the comment. Cheers!

  • @MarkJones-kd6ye
    @MarkJones-kd6ye 6 лет назад

    does this burner only work in the Nano ?

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  6 лет назад

      It will work in the 5" Firebox as well but you would have to put it on the Adjustable Fire Grate to get it at the right head space. Thanks for watching!!

    • @MarkJones-kd6ye
      @MarkJones-kd6ye 6 лет назад +1

      @@fireboxstove thank you my friend when you see an order coming from spain it will be me ha ha ha

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  6 лет назад +1

      @@MarkJones-kd6ye Awesome, thank you for your support. Cheers!

  • @xenaguy01
    @xenaguy01 3 года назад

    1:50 Hit the button. Turn off the alarm and the temp will reset. Had you hit the alarm button, the probe would have dropped the instant you pulled it out of the water.

  • @dislikebutton6596
    @dislikebutton6596 5 лет назад +1

    Always wanted a Firebox, but its too expensive D:

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +3

      There are cheaper alternatives on the market but I would recommend starting with homemade.

    • @martinfoy5167
      @martinfoy5167 5 лет назад

      You won't regret buying the firebox , but you will if you buy the twice as much bushbox 🤔

    • @brandonparnel1979
      @brandonparnel1979 5 лет назад

      They are worth it.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you for the support!

    • @lizard2425
      @lizard2425 5 лет назад

      I made a tomcat with a carbon wick. Works really well in very cold weather!

  • @wayneandrews1933
    @wayneandrews1933 5 лет назад

    Great video keep it up my friend bless on your family

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      Thank you Wayne, I sure appreciate that. Happy New Year to you and your family!

  • @walkerone9833
    @walkerone9833 5 лет назад

    Great test. I would love to see the Trangia stove be tested both "on the floor"as you stated and on the Nano sticks as on this vid. The trangia type stoves are everywhere. Perhaps the Nano sticks for these type of stoves are not the most efficient as in the test of the Siphon Jet stoves. In all honesty, I own two Nano's with the X cases. By far my favorite stove for one/two people. Thanks!

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +2

      I have done testswith the trangia in 3 different positions within the Nano and you're correct the trangia will boil the water faster when down on the floor of the Nano but burns with more of a blue flame when resting on the Nano Sticks.

    • @walkerone9833
      @walkerone9833 5 лет назад

      @@fireboxstove Thanks. I'll check that out.

  • @RaulGarciaFishingandOutdoors
    @RaulGarciaFishingandOutdoors 5 лет назад

    Good test!

  • @SeniorHiker77
    @SeniorHiker77 5 лет назад

    Good review.

  • @brettjones220
    @brettjones220 5 лет назад

    Buy a Gen 2 nano for both alcohol burners! Evernew Ti to get it boiling faster and trangia to finish cooking! Thanks Steve! Jonesy

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      Thank you for watching and commenting!

  • @GARYMANDIEVAN
    @GARYMANDIEVAN 5 лет назад

    Very Interesting

  • @willisblevins4190
    @willisblevins4190 5 лет назад

    Very good thanks

  • @glumGlumm
    @glumGlumm 5 лет назад

    I need one of those for my first time camping. I can get hot coffeee in a few mins

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      They are great! Thanks for watching!

  • @timberg7377
    @timberg7377 5 лет назад

    Thanks for sharing

  • @markscrim
    @markscrim 5 лет назад

    Love your stuff and sales outings. Don’t love your prices. With shipping costs, I’ll have to pass. Keep those camping videos coming.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад +1

      Thanks for watching, I am glad you enjoy the videos. We do offer free shipping in the USA over $37 and internationally we only charge what it actually costs to ship the product and we cover a portion of the costs for our customers as well to try and help out.

    • @HUZ9k3s5w
      @HUZ9k3s5w 5 лет назад

      @@fireboxstove You should probably mention Steve that you have dealers/re-sellers in 14 or 15 countries outside of the US.

  • @gringo3009
    @gringo3009 5 лет назад

    Good stuff! And here I thought alcohol was just for drink'n. (Kidding of course.)

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      Lol nope has other uses too!! Thanks for watching!

  • @cathygriffith746
    @cathygriffith746 5 лет назад +1

    SWAMP HUGS FROM LOUISIANA

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      Thank you for the ongoing support Cathy, Happy New Year to you!

  • @richardlewis7626
    @richardlewis7626 5 лет назад

    Looks to me that that the difference is minimal in the grand scheme of things. What matters is that the tool completes the job.... splitting hairs or seconds as it were isn’t worth it.... just my opinion.

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      The biggest difference is the weight and features/conveniences. I agree that the difference in performance is nominal.

  • @rwmagnus
    @rwmagnus 5 лет назад

    You need a white lab coat for these videos, lol. Just wondering if you can lower the Trangia to the floor of the Nano for more head space. LOL I’ve never used my Trangia yet. Came close last month but wound up using sticks. Couldn’t tell if that was a sealed (soldiered) Trangia or not. In the end to me it’s splitting hairs. Listen to me People, just buy Firebox stuff and call it a day, you’ll never be disappointed!

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      When you lower it you will get a bigger flame and faster boil times because heat feedback will be increased. The one inch head space provides a more efficient burn with more blue flame. You can see the solder on that stove under the lip of it all the way around. Thank you for the support, I sure appreciate it. Cheers to you!

  • @normanmallory2055
    @normanmallory2055 5 лет назад

    Whoops i just seen it , The Nano .. now i'm moving forward..

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      Well I just saw your second comment so we are good.

  • @FunghiJacob
    @FunghiJacob 5 лет назад

    Love the channel but get the buck outside with those. Not safe. And you got kiddos. Jeeeeez you have carpet!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      This was in my office at work and I watch things very carefully, not everything is as it appears lol. Thanks for watching!

    • @FunghiJacob
      @FunghiJacob 5 лет назад

      Ahaha sorry to troll you. Keep on living the dream! And yes, everything is not as it seems🍄💚🌳🍄

  • @mouradededin134
    @mouradededin134 5 лет назад

    Bon jour Steve ,j'aimerais a voire cette ensemble de fours ,malheureusement chez nous ça se vente pas .bay

    • @fireboxstove
      @fireboxstove  5 лет назад

      You can check out our international dealers here: www.fireboxstove.com/Dealer. That should help, thank you!

  • @victorbravo3222
    @victorbravo3222 5 лет назад

    You got to be in some really high altitude for water to boil at 200F! Great test though.

  • @fabiobraido6989
    @fabiobraido6989 5 лет назад

    Wow,combustione pirolitica

  • @abidvlog84
    @abidvlog84 5 лет назад

    ❤❤❤👍

  • @magicmike6517
    @magicmike6517 5 лет назад

    Omg someone has a sad life to time water to boil