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Hi Phil
I'm sorry to hear that cattle broke out . Had the same problem a couple of years ago but went way and bought big expenses fence that had plenty of power . Best investment to date for control cattle
Good video Phil, looks like things are going along I hope the bulls start doing better
It was a cold summer as you know hard on cattle and took way longer to put weight on them
We find the blues don’t do anything on grass however do really well in all year and heavy feed them and our Angus/Hereford do well on a more grass based system
Phil we normally do shake out your bale of straw put in feeder with some silage it will keep weight on straw for blades to chop bout 10 mins
Excellent video, sounds like you have a good plan.
Stay away from continental breeds, when fat they look great but they are slow maturing and need 30 months.
Good luck
Hi farmer Phil that was a great video of your fresion bulls and your looking after them to 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Try using straw chopper too break the straw up and stack in a pile for use
You got on the beer didn’t you 😂🤣😂🤣
Put the straw through the straw blower then into diet feeder
Evening Farmer 🧑🏻🌾 Phill and liv and Father Phil we are going to relax 🧘♂️ with our favourite farmers in the world 🌍.
I sell a good few of our dairy Calfs and have mostly Belgian blue and Charolais and a lot of repeat buyers ask for Charolais Calfs over blues ! We have tried a few speckled parks but not many men want them or want them at a reduced price and the same goes for Heraford most buyers don’t want them unless they are priced really right for them .
Love the T shirt Phil 😃
I hope all goes well and better with your building up weight. Thanks for the video
Good stuff
Belgian blues are always soft. Would be interesting what was the sire of the calves. There was an Angus years ago that had so called good genetics but was bone useless when push came to show. Dairy farms are chasing easy calving and short gestation and doesn't allow for decent beefing abilities.
Can you cut the straw bales with the shear grab? Then add to the Keenan to mix it and chop it. Some great looking bull there great video 👍🏻
We do do that but we need a much shorter chop length
I think you can still buy the euro cross bulls, but I’d be keeping them in from weaning and really get them going. You probably have the shed space now, could be a handy way to turn off more cattle each year, it’s worth a try.
Extra knives in the Keenan and putting some silage in with the straw will help it chop better. Our Keenan (2011) has 32 knives I think
Not sure how many knives is in ours but we have been putting in a block of silage with the straw to help chop it up before filling it out
From what I see is The problem with a lot of the blues is mainly there’s too much of the dairy breed gone into them and they’re not the beef cattle they once were from my time
Was thinking the same thing. The beef quality may not be in the straws used to service the cows.
@@cdemo1186 I don't know what but something is wrong in a lot of genetics now I'd say. We have some ai angus bulls from our own dairy cows who are growing horns
@@kieranosullivan02 that doesn't seem right. Arent Angus polled for years? I think the straws for the Belgian blues are only used for selling purposes, so to sell on to farmers like Phil, but the beef genetics arent in them. I seen a comment further down and he makes a good point about raring Belgian blues, they need more feed and attention but if the genetics are right they should have a better daily gain than 750 grams.
@@cdemo1186 I know. they didn't get them young, about 6 or 7 months maybe they started. Yes ch or belgian blue were used a lot more this year says ai man because they sold well this year in marts. but if they aren't any better for the man buying it's no good
All down to management. We’ve incalf dairy heifers that are heavier than Phil’s stock
Blues not grass cattle + grass was wet lotof the time this summer . Double whammy for them . Higher energy diet needed !
Belgian blues from the dairy cow are no comparison to the suckled Belgian blue the friesian cow just cant produce that kind of calf because of calving difficulty
Another very interesting video Thank you 😊😊😊😊
Problem is the quality of the calves your buying we buy plenty of blues out of fresian cows never have an issue fatning them what age are them bulls
When your getting them for free. You don't care about quality at that stage.
😂😂😂😂 that says it all no point in whining about weights or quality then you get what you pay for
Great video Phil. Enjoyed watching. 👍🏼👍🏼
Great video Love watching them every werk
Ive found the blues a problem as well first to be sick an poor weight gains,
Put the strew trow the silage harvester
You never thought about putting some of the straw through the chopper to make it shorter pal
Is the the green spire working out for you? 😊
A diverting gate infront of the skulling gate and a pen on the silo side would leave it a 1 man job for separating cattle too be worth thinking about I think …
That’s the plan for the future
Why do you not dehorn the cattle?
No time
We dehorn them in batches of 5 or 10 to reduce stress but because they’re in large pens some get missed and don’t dehorn any that we’re sick as calves as it can bring it back on them
Grass growth is down about 30% this year. I think your cattle has done well considering the year. Belgium blues are lazy cattle and probably don't graze actively enough.
That whole system is a waste of time. Im sorry now. Easy talk i no. And i dont mean any offence. But iv seen how hard ye are working their. Buying and rearing those calfs. Theirs nothing easy about it. The hardship and at times tears. Your avg weight their seemed about 350kg. What yer doing is not worth the work for that. The breeding from the dairy herd is just not their. All that matters in beef is weight. And after all that work and sacrifice and money threw no fault of yer own those cattle are making ye nothing. It may seem better at moment with prices fairly good. But thats a mirage. Iv 6 month old calves with a higher avg weight. And i grew up with that sort of cattle. Everyone had angus and freisin cattle when i was a child. They were weighing 300kg going into the shed as weanlings at the time. Whats coming from the dairy herd nowadays isnt worth the work and effort. For what they have in them in terms of potential. Ye need a rethink. Ye can listen now or come to realise it after many more years of torture
20 years ago I was getting 200 euro for british Freisin bull calves and 300 for white bulls. Neighbour used to buy a batch of both for donkeys years. No difference in finishing weights. Fast forward 20 years. I'm giving him them same freisin bull calves for free after keeping them for 10 days. They are still finishing out on par with the white heads.....where the hell is the system broken?
But what can a person do ?
The only other options are go in suckler cows or try milking dairy cows ?
@billabong9215 its not money or value im necessarily on about. These cattle are 1 and a half years old. For them to weigh what they do after all this time and in peticular all the work and hardship. Their not worth the hard work.
Take the best 1ns weighing over 400 kg. They will be getting killed jan/feb at a deadweight of 320/330. Then add the rest to them the avg will plunge to 270 kg. With an avg grade of 0-. Its not going tl add up to enough to cover for all that work
@@billabong9215 the only way them type of cattle leave something is for someone along the way to make a loss. It's not viable to rare them types. You can buy them at a year old, all the work done to them for less than it cost to get them to that age.
Hello from cork Phil.. just wondering does the straw blower chop straw? If it does could you chop a bale with it and then mix it? The Keenan takes long time too chop the straw
Unfortunately our blower doesn’t chop straw
You should be raising 100 more f R it is all about the numbers when I look in to my land I don’t say how many are there I say how many would fit in there 😅 keep up the good work
Great Video on the Cattle. What weight would you hope the fresians kill out at. Presume you get them gone before 24 months.
I was waiting for liv to soak to. u with the hose 😂
Hey Phil, love the T shirt. Brilliant video.
Are you buying 5 star calves? the cbv of the dairy herd your buying from would be another good place to look all good indicators of potential performance from your cattle. No point in buying blues and expecting results if the cows are -50 cbv.
The cbv of them blues are from €120 - 184 so I’ve no faith in the new cbv figures
Cbv figure is a load of rubbish I was a the calf to beef farm open day in tipperary and it was all Cbv value and they were average enough cattle. If the cow is Holstein, jersey or new Zealand cross you won't get great weight from the cattle. British FR cow is the only way but they are hard to find today
Yes being so new it has a lot of room to improve the more cattle that are killed the more accurate it will get especially now that a lot more dairy calves and cows are genotyped. Just look at the ebi system for dairy cows that is fairly spot on now but took a lot of time to get it there.
Yea but the beef index in those jersey and holstein cows will be lower that the bf cows usually l. To be fair you want a certain amount of holstein in them to get the frame.
@@skuterngobsheen cbv is being brought in to try and sell the weaker calves, a lot of people I talked to at the open day weren't impressed with the animals. A bit of holstein is no harm but jersey and kewi cross are to be avoided in my opinion the dairy farmer should be set up to keep them until 5/6 months of age so a buyer has a better idea of the animal before purchase
What is the average age of the bulls
Is it possible you just got a bad batch of blues… maybe out of an average quality stock bull or poor quality cows? Did they come from the same farm or different farms?
Came from 2 different farms and 4 different ai sires
Did u ever hear of barb wire fences
I think the year that was in it though for grass growth it probably didnt help cattle. That north east wind all through summer 9down in cork anyway) scorched alot of grass & took the good out of it. Dairmen saw it in their lower solids so presumably beef men should expect slightly less thrive on grass??
Do you like cattle work or machinery work better
Machinery I find more relaxing
Do you have any of their single slats left
Run the straw through the straw blower first just and idea
From what I have seen from a few youtubers, blues need intensive feeding all the way through to get a decent weight plenty grains/nuts even when they are out on good grass. Guess that's why most arible farmers keep them as grain being sold for animal feed can go into their cattle
My BB get fat on just grass and dry silage/damp haylage bales and NO feed what so ever. But let's face it a pure grass based system does take longer than a grain tmr rashon. But grass based is a lot cheaper system. Pluses and minuses in every system
Put the straw threw the silage harvest
Ur target is very low or poor
Scaffolding up at the house good sign
Would The noise of the tractors have spooked them
Could you put your straw through your teagle straw chopper straight into the mixer wagon?👍
belgum blue never do well on grass better barley fed in barn
BB won't do on grass they need fed get some Herefords or Angus if you want to do asmuch of grass as possible.
@@StuartMason-u8z much more hardier right
I can't justify paying for herd watch when I have a pen and paper for next to nothing. Doesn't make sense to me.
there gone very dear, they will end up like lsl the way there going
I agree. Find with Herdwatch I’m more useless filling in information then with a biro. Farmers have enough expenses.
Best of luck with all the cattle now this winter feeding season 👍👍👍
Hard to beat good friesen see belgian blues in mart today all very bad weights for age must be something in the breeding
Cows had hard summer on wet grass . Showing in calf quality !
Assuming talking about this autumn calves ! Unlikely i guess if ur in Ireland .
Are you sowing w barely after beans Phil
Hoping to put in winter wheat
Good idea (wheat that is ) make bettwr use of residual nitrogen from beans than barley will . Barley also likely go flat .
You should chop some straw bales with the silage harvester and get it into.the diet that way, it's a super job and works great 👍
Chop your straw thru the bedder??
Blues out of jersey and new Zealand cows, shite. By the colour of a lot of the fr bulls they have a lot of jersey through them. Waste of time trying to put weight on them.
Grazing the long arce phil
Will the addition of the maze silage mean you wont have to feed straw for roughage? Love the livestock videos 😊😊
We’ll still have to feed roughage
See you at the pumpkin patch
Definitely not a fair test comparing blues to friesian totally different body frames , you definitely have the potential to finish a Blue at 600kg at a U grade they would also be more appealing in your farm shop
Nice T Shirt Phil 😂
Did all the blues come from the same herd?
No 2 different herds
If everyone donated a pound for a new shed …
Blues always do better in a intensive system keeping them houses all year and you got to feed them like fck
BB was the sire, but what was the dam? It's half the genetics after all. Lots of guys putting BB on poor cows.
Also on the straw chop length, would the straw chopper get the job done
Nice one Phil
So the belgium blues have left you feeling blue 💙
Will you be feeding syrup to the bulls the boys in Clark's farm sell it wounder is it any good
No we don’t feed it
Ye need 2 do something with the other 1200 tractor
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Belgium blue are great cattle ur Belgium blue are brock compared to the real ones.......you were bumming about the chx u weighed that's the kind of cattle people are telling u to buy
I agree you can't compare the diary x to the real thing. The calves could have been out of a really bad dairy cow. You watch dairy x blues come through the mart the difference between a £100 blue calf and a £300 calf is like 🤢 and 😍🥰🤩
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I’d never had guessed!
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U are John
The bull hayes@@conorfox6303
U tell em
PHIL WOULD YOU EVER THINK ABOUT GOING INTO MILK
Thought about it and no not for me
@@FARMERPHIL3690 you have a perfect set up for it,all land close to home
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Tell your wife to put a lid on it will ya with her shouting it's irritating
She just calling the cattle.
Your obveasly not a married man 😂🤣😂🤣😂
In my humble opinion, I think liv is a good and decent hard working woman she out driving tractors it looks like your another fucking asshole that don't know what your talking about
You could do with watching the video and taking heed of Phils t-shirt at about 22 minutes
What's happened to the maize and beans, will we be seeing harvesting of them or have I missed a video, Thanks and I won't be a dick!
You’re wasting your time trying to beef dairy breeds!
However!
I used to breed Exotics.Was at the market one day and there’s this pen of same age cattle next to mine,same age.80kgs heavier!Sold for $100 more!!!
Exotics are Charolais over Frisian x Hereford. Thats 3/4 beef with 1/4 dairy.They grow tall very quickly then fill out at 2 yr mark.
So there’s this family down south of South island of NZ.They have been breeding
Charolais for three generations.Instead of selecting the biggest they have been taking the smallest calm and tapered head and after 100 years now call them easy calving Charolais.
For anyone reading this and struggling with results.
Find the smallest Charolais bull at one year mark.
Find 6x Frisian x Hereford heifers.If you cant find ask a Frisian milker to put a Hereford over the very last maters,if you can.Buy everything male and female calves.
YOU WILL NOT REGRET PUTTING FRISIAN CROSS HEREFORD OVER Charolais
I GUARANTEE THAT!
Drench is purely you get what you pay for.
Used a product called Ivermec and used to call it liquid gold.Both the price of product but actually the results