I got my math wrong because I forgot to multiply by 100! (It’s been a long day, please forgive me) The correct percentages are: 1.23% of people in the company are qualified for/on the Vegas trip 0.03% of people in the company are in the MDC Sorry sorry! 🙏🏼
Either way.. when she said "everyone in this room could be here" I did some quick math of my own. 4000 attendees is about 51 times 76 (the number of MDEs). So since money goes up through the pyramid and requires more market partners to put more people at the top, it would stand to reason the number of market partners should grow about 51 times in order for all 4000 people to hit the MDE soo that would require around 16 million market partners.. Obviously there are other factors but just had to illustrate how ridiculous that claim is.
The irony of Monat holding their conference in Las Vegas, considering the famous statistic where you have a better chance of winning money playing roulette in Vegas than you do of making any money in an MLM.
"What do you have to lose?" Financial stability, friendships, time with family, integrity, time to yourself, paid time off, health insurance, pension... what else am I missing?
Your reputation, your individuality, your sense of self, the ability to think critically, your disposable income, you mental health, and your happiness.
@@2446Ann Putting an MLM on your resume is more likely to put off potential future employers. What work experience is actually usefull in other jobs? Expert zoom call listener? Cold messaging experience? Social media advertising?
I couldn’t get my newborn to fall asleep so I put this on to have something to watch while I rocked her and she passed out. Hannah: queen of anti-mlm content and soother of babies😂❤️
So funny because I do this too… and when I was pregnant and couldn’t sleep HannahS voice never failed to soothe me and shut my brain up so I could fall asleep
So they make this trip slightly more rank-inclusive and attainable just to turn around and have top-rank-only sessions for like half of it. Cool. Love this. "OMG we're so excited for our MONAT family to be here but you still can't sit with us." 🙃
Imagine if you worked for Pantene and every time you saw a Pantene commercial, you took a pic and put it on your social media with a huge post about how Pantene is so amazing, they're FEATURED ON TV!! lmaooo
Even when my terrible call center 9 to 5 that paid me only 11.50 an hour as a trainer (I ranked the same as a supervisor) sent us on a trip that had travel time, air fare, hotel, car rental, and all meals completely paid for. The time I spent doing work activities like conferences was considered on the clock and was paid for. This "free trip" is definitely not the flex they think it is.
Years ago, I took two trips for work to Sacramento, all expenses paid, champagne in the SUV limo every day on the way to and from the facilities, big dinner at a great wine restaurant, etc etc etc Plus i was still getting paid from work that week
Just to add an example from the dreaded 9-5 world, my sister was a sales manager for a hotel chain and surpassed her sales quota by a lot one year. Like by 200% or something crazy. So every year the hotel chain rewarded the group of top salesmen in the company with a reward trip to a 5 star hotel in Cabo, all expenses paid with a guest. And this was not a work trip, it was strictly a reward for their hard work. The only thing I paid for was to park my car at the airport (and I was the plus one!) The huns try to make it seem like the corporate world could never provide the rewards and lifestyle that their mlm does, but its just not true.
Yeah, my company does something similar. The top few salespeople from each region every get to go on an all expenses paid trip as a reward, with a plus one. It’s a really fun trip, we did one hotel Miami this year and it was basically, well, what monat claims it’s trips are. Except real - and we didn’t have to work during it
💯 my mom was a HOUSEKEEPER at a 5 star hotel in San Francisco. As part of the company’s year end party (before the pandemic), they gave away gifts via raffles and rewarded their top employees. My mom was a top notch worker and was gifted an all-expense paid trip for 2 to Hawaii:, flights, hotel, food, transportation- all included. An MLM could never 🤣
Yes, this is super common in actual sales jobs! My husband (who also works from home and sets his own schedule), and his team, exceeded their sales goals and got an all expenses paid trip to a 5 star resort for them and one other person. It wasn’t even a work trip. We just got to go for 5 days and have a vacation for free. Not to mention his company sales kick offs are always in super fun locations, all expenses paid and they get to keep their airline and hotel points. And they do that twice a year. If you need “time freedom” and want to be a salesperson, then just get a real sales job. It is super easy to find remote sales work, and you get a base salary on top of your commission.
@@rachelr9352 Ah, but then there's like actual regulations and oversight you have to abide by, can't just dump customer data in random personal Google docs and pressure-sell to vulnerable people and make spurious claims... How do you actually close deals while being ethical and honest without, like, actual effort and integrity? Sounds like a fairytale. 😏
I've said it before and I'll say it here: I work for a Christian company and we don't do worship services as part of our work activities. It's weird for a secular company to do that, what about the reps who aren't Christian or religious at all? I'm glad Stuart isn't a pastor because yikes, but this is a big yikes too. I hate these MLMs using faith as a money-making tactic. It's gross.
I worked for a non denominational faith based company but I could tell they were protestant Christian. (Probably noticed because that's what I am) We did have a church service at a local church during our conferences but it was optional.
While watching this I equated this trip to someone being strung along in a relationship. They are whisked away to a place and paid attention to. Wined and dined. Given a sense of hope and revived into staying in this manipulative, toxic, one-sided relationship. It’s so sad.
Thank you for posting. I’ve been having a really hard mental health day and slept til like 2pm. But I put you on in the background and did my dishes and did some meal prep and I feel a little better. I know it’s not enough and my apartment is still a mess but thank you for getting me out of bed. Made me feel less alone. 💕
I've been there and still am to some extent. I decided to try the idea that you clean for 10 minutes every hour you are home and awake. I didn't think I would get much done but it adds up! I'm also very disorganized. So I sometimes use my 10 minutes to clean out a drawer. I not only organize it but it gives me space to put more in it so I don't have so much stuff sitting on surfaces and making my house look cluttered. As another person wrote, you are definitely not alone! Hang in there.
I worked for a professional photography magazine years ago, and our advertisers always got editorial mentions. Monat is not getting hailed because people at those journals like their products. Most fashion/beauty mags will mention MLM products...for a price. Those "editors' choice awards" are often paid for by ad dollars, too.
I can see how so many people can be drawn into an MLM. Who wouldn’t want to feel “supported” and “loved” and pushed to achieve you dreams. What immediately popped into my head is “Don't dream it, be it” from The Rocky Horror Picture Show. That didn’t end very well for Frank-N-Furter. It’s sad to see how fake it really is.
I almost fell for these free trips! But totally, a 9 to 5 definitely lets me fly direct, check bags, take a taxi, have a room to myself, and pay for all meals! Oh yea and i don't pay taxes on it!
That ‘Media Mentions’ section had serious Scientology convention vibes. 7 million free clinics built! 0% prison recidivism rate! Some real culterama here.
Hi Hannah! I don’t typically comment but I wanted to say how much I appreciate your delivery of these topics. You’re eloquent and respectful yet still very entertaining with great commentary. Your growth is well deserved and I hope you never stop being you.
At 30:16 I have to give a correction. The Establishment Clause of the Constitution applies only to State actors. It wouldn't matter whether Monat reps were actual employees of the company or not, they're a private business and can engage in religious expression. However, they cannot discriminate against reps who choose not to engage in religious services sponsored by the company. There's a lot more nuance involved, but generally speaking 1A protections and Congressional restrictions are limited to State actors.
I was about to say something similar. The fact that all the reps are technically contractors might even allow them to cut ties with you for not worshiping (unsure). But, as an MLM they need everyone to join, so it probably doesn't come up often.
Hannah, I am so happy you are uploading longer content more frequently! I saw the time stamp and had to instantly watch, I love being early! I also have a story to send in about my time with Mary Kay. Thank you for spreading the word of how vile MLMs are!
I doubt that Monat paid even that much on the hotel. A company can get a break if they book a certain amount of rooms. I’m sure for them it’s a tax right off, while for the people attending the conference is paying the taxes.
Not to mention it's a butt-load of free advertising so it probably comes right out of their marketing budget and they barely had to lift a finger. That's all these "conferences" really are.
It honestly makes me so sad to hear a woman say she’s scared to see herself as worthy of being at the top of an MLM. I just want to hug her and tell her that she’s worth so, so, so much more than that.
She went on and on for sooo long too! I was like why are you not talking with a friend about these feelings?! The strangers on internet don’t care! A friend could help channel the good ideas about self-worth, confidence, and risk taking into tangible, lasting results and steer her away from the overcommitment to this monetary black hole. It’s just sad honestly. 😔
Even as a public school teacher I've been on conference trips that were completely paid for, where I picked the flight, the hotel and had 3 meals a day covered (albeit with price limits - I paid out of pocket for extra). Shoot, even when I worked for Monster Energy handing out samples, we'd have everything paid for if we had to work an overnight event, and Monster put us up in really nice hotels!
Yep…that last qualification part about being an mmp….that’s when I quit, I worked my Butt off Trying to sell enough shampoo to earn this trip and my upline said I could do it in just sales….then the last month I realized I needed to recruit 🤦🏼♀️ and that’s when I discovered this anti mlm movement and a lot of clarity lol
I was self-employed (not an MLM) for 10 years. It was either feast or famine….very stressful. So, I took a “9 to 5” job with another firm…doing the same thing. Now, I’m about to retire after 18 years with a big-fa 401(k)….and feeling pretty proud of myself.
Holy moly I clicked so fast! So I live in Vegas and I actually know performers who jumped at the chance to do a gig for this Monat reunion.. I was scrolling through my Instagram stories and saw one after another posting pics and video from the event 🙄 I couldn’t help myself and had to share this nugget to my story.. ‘People really out here proud of doing a gig for a KNOWN MLM PYRAMID SCHEME 💀 some performers will do anything for money’
I love how that one girl was going on about how much time you have to devote to a 9 to 5 job right after she bragged about how exhausted she was from going to this conference…
When you touched on faith manipulation, I remember when my aunt invited us to a Tupperware conference back when I was a kid. They hired Gary V (not Gary Vee, I promise), a famous local singer. The thing with Gary is that he is a pop star turned Christian singer. So when the fun party songs stopped, the whole concert suddenly turned into a Sunday worship service. As a kid, I didn't think much about it. But now I realized how a LOT of MLMs use religion as a way to make people stay. And it's especially effective for Christian-dominated countries
It's Gary Valenciano, right? When I first heard of Gary Vee/Gary Vaynerchuk (Pardon if I messed up the spelling) on the internet, I thought he was the same as that artist, but he's not. But yeah, I think I know which country you may be talking about, and yes, the faith manipulation sucks, and I really despise MLMs doing this sort of thing.
If my employer made me go to church id be fuming. This whole conference is a waste of time and money. Just there to create FOMO and it works… I hope more and more people come across this content and have their eyes opened.
The clip of the woman who was so tired, but also euphoric, ready to go "all in" but also full of "self-doubt" -- she could have spoken at one of the many conferences and retreats I attended when I was younger. She'd just have to change a few terms, and she'd fit right in. I was in an actual cult, btw.
Cults have really changed since I was a teen in the 90's. Shit, I had to deal with taking 'shrooms, drinking cheap cider, mediation on Glastonbury Tor and fending off creepy older guys wanting to get "spiritual" with me. This MLM and the BITE Model are truly horrifying.
@@mercyjokes2d696 Ha, that sounds horrific. I was in a very dull cult that looked respectable on the outside -- it wasn't like most of us lived anywhere close to the leader -- but it still used the BITE model to keep a hold on its members. It was hard to convince ourselves and others how damaging it was. This is why I identify so strongly with anti-MLM stuff, I guess.
I have thoughts. 1. How can they say one of the perks of the trip is “networking” when THEY ALL DO THE SAME THING. 2. Sooooooo you really don’t get that much free time to enjoy your “free” trip. 3. Didn’t they announce the new flavors at the Director summit? Why is everyone so excited? 4. Does it ever occur to them that if Monat can afford to have these weekly flash sales with such insanely low prices, that maaaaaaybe they’re getting ripped off? 5. Didn’t Angelique have like nine Rejuvenique oils on her shelf? That’s your high sales numbers right there. How many bottles does each rep have in their home? 6. Is she wearing lingerie. Why is she wearing lingerie. 7. “Team dinner”. Do they have to pay for those? I remember at Mary Kay seminar we had multiple dinner events we had to pay for. And less free time. 8. Last one. Anyone else having a chuckle over them having a church service on the last day of a trip to Sun City? 😜
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but I'm pretty sure they have that second day full of content and required attendance to make sure they can write off all of the expenses on taxes. Not only are they defrauding reps but also the government.
That's a guaranteed $1000 more a year. They can't guarantee even $1. Sorry, but I'll take a regular paycheck and benefits over the MLM gamble any day of the week.
Monat: Girl Boss - Gaslight - Gatekeep Also, the Monat Hun that was so tired from the convention is also obviously SICK. Spreading germs upon germs. Awesome!
I was in Nashville a few years ago during a Rodan & Fields convention. Thankfully we didn’t cross paths, but I had a Lyft driver spill the tea; he didn’t think too highly of them short of the fact they tipped really well. I don’t think R&F covers your rideshare tips, but you do you.
I work for a high end salon supply company for professionals only. I get paid hourly, I get $100+ of free product a month, and we have regular sales contests so I regularly have $150+ bonuses. I get extra sick time and extra PTO, paid bereavement leave, and healthcare. We’re currently competing for an actually free, all inclusive trip to Cancun. Monat huns WISH they had what I have.
Hey Hannah!! I really enjoyed this video. I wasn't going to comment but I'm a Christian and it really frustrates me that this company is using His name to manipulate people. This is not good!!
I love how fast you got this video up 🤝🙃 also I can say that unfortunately I was a monat market partner at one point 🥴 and they purposely tell you in trainings to pick a high up director in the company and copy everything they do (on their stories, posts, lives, etc) to replicate their success. Because “you never want to take advice from someone who doesn’t have the level of success you want”. That’s probably why multiple girls were copying that one director’s stories. Honestly embarrassing, and so glad I never listened to this advice. My 500 instagram followers would have been so confused 😂
I hate this - the amount of emotional manipulation flabbergasts me. It's so hard to disconnect from that kind of community, so many of these girls have dealt with it from a very young age at home ,and then with their religion and now their 'job'. This is their normal and I fear it'll take a foundational change in our culture to save most of them
I think you really nailed this one. This video is especially well researched, constructed, and presented. I love listening to your perspectives and the consistent energy in these long videos, it makes the day go by faster!
I recently started bingeing your channel and am obsessed with your content! I grew up in a church that operated sooo much like a cult and the similarities between it and mlms is just insane. would love to talk about it sometime but I wouldnt even know where to begin~ (also have a few mlm stories of my own!)
i was cleaning my room while watching this video and when i heard you say "monat theme song" i did a 180, and you looked at the camera and said "yes, they have a monat theme song" as if you could see my reaction 😂
It's so much cheaper to just go to Vegas on your own dime than through an MLM. Imagine if I had to sell a certain amount of servers and network switches in order to get a TRAINING trip?! I don't think the bank would give me a loan for that 😅
I absolutely love watching this I hadn’t even heard of MLM until I found you last week. It’s amazing to me how I hadn’t realised how much of everyday life is taken over by MLM companies. This video was rather shocking and sad that these people don’t understand that they aren’t helping themselves . Please make more continue to spread the word about the brainwashing . Your channel is by far the best one I’ve seen doing this kind of content I truly think that you can help and save people. 🥰❤️🥰
Beachbody sent their "coaches" to Punta Cana but they had early morning workouts every day, meetings/conference style sessions, and then evening events to attend. Seemed like a lot of work for a "vacation".
I am blown away listening to their theme song and I was instantly transported back to when one of my old Beachbody teammates wrote a song inspired by the theme of BB summit that year. There's a video of all of us singing somewhere. 🙈
I love your videos Hannah I just found you and I’m binging them!! Ugh I got suckered into young living and monat (just buying) never joined. But the products are garbage and I really can’t believe how much money I spent on OILS. Monat made my hair greasy and I was told to use a smaller amount and to not put conditioner ONLY on my ends… I was like how am I suppose to brush through my hair with zero to no conditioner in it. 💀😅keep it up girl!!!
Yes the shampoo made mine gummy. They said it was my hair detoxing from the old products I used prior to Monat...guess what??? My current shampoo has never done this 🤣🤣🤣
All the 'free' things these mlms say you get. But not one of them fully explains the tax responsibility (just hides it in the small print) to the poor reps. I wonder if the mlm company get a tax break for these trips etc?
Just an random fyi, the “separation of church and state” is not in the 1st amendment, it’s actually from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote. Loved this video! I love seeing a peek into this freaky world 😂
Yes, I was going to do that. The first amendment just states that Congress can’t make a law establishing a state religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. It says nothing about businesses combining faith with economic practices, in the same way as the first amendment doesn’t prohibit private businesses from limiting speech on their platforms. At the same time, it’s still extremely sketchy, and in my opinion, sacreligious, to use church services as a tactic to sell your product.
As a cradle Catholic who has worked as a nurse in a faith based hospital I am so disgusted by the faith manipulation that MLMs use. A career as a master manipulator...not a boss babe...not a small business owner...a puppet used as a manipulator using God and faith because u can't use logic and facts. It gives actual faith based companies and organizations a bad name. These people that know the truth and know their own struggle with the company and keep that a secret and said God led them to this company should be completely ashamed of themselves. I wonder what people think when then join the company through a friend who used God to reel them in. How do u stay friends with that person after they lied and manipulated u to throw ur money and time away. Sorry for the rant. It's just infuriating all the way around.
Girl they tell them to do that. I've never been in monat but I've been to that type of event before. They tell you to all get out your phones and take a picture and post it at the same time.
This is absolutely no shade to anyone but I have to say Hannah, you are my favorite anti mlm creator. You seem like such a sweet spirit not to mention naturally beautiful. I’m happy to see your channel is growing! I will be sending my anti mlm story in here soon. Good ole Timehop supplied me with a old Facebook post when I briefly sold MARY KAY. It was a lot worse then what I thought when I went through it, not to mention this was 2013-14 and I had no idea what a mlm was.
When I travel for work it’s 100% paid for. Hell I even went to Disney land after my work meeting and they covered that. Actually when I travelled to Hawaii they paid for my connecting flights when I extended my trip to check out a few more islands. Their trips are not paid for 😂 also I pick whatever flights I want. Whatever hotels I want… not even comparable.
I've been binging all of your videos for the last week or so & I think I've pretty much watched them all now, I even listen to you to go to sleep 🤣 so imagine how happy I was to see that you've uploaded something new. So much love to you Hannah, you & your videos have been keeping me sane. Love from Scotland 💕
There are a two character attributes that I prefer people around me have. I also prefer people that I listen to have them. You have both. You're empathetic and have integrity. Thank you for you videos and all of the work that goes into them.
Your long videos are such a treat! Tea makes for a good pairing for these. 💜💜💜 PS - my merch arrived! Glad to see the tops are made in Honduras and Nicaragua (the sweatshirt is sooooo soft against the skin). And I didn't expect the Z&C sticker to be so BIG. Love them all.
These conventions & the way the people ’cheer’ in them reminds me of when I was a teenager & my family used 2 go 2 game show recordings & there were signs above that would flash with the words ‘applause’ & ‘cheer’. the producers would press the button the sign would flash & just like little minions we would over they sign. 💞💞💞💞💞
Omg. Someone that has mutual friends with me was there posting about how much fun she was having… but I was being nosey & saw her sulking in the background of other Huns IG stories !??? 😭
It scares me how many cult and MLM tactics were used by an old job of mine. Love bombing, victim blaming, shunning, pushing recruitment. It WAS a legitimate job with benefits, but you got major bonuses if someone you referred stayed with the company. I wouldn’t be surprised if the founder had a history in MLMs.
As a Christian and a church goer myself. I would find it very weird and uncomfortable for a company like that have a church service. There also were probably many people that felt pressure to go which is beyond wrong.
These conference announcements, especially the drink flavor announcements around 25:30 remind me of that scene in Roald Dahl’s The Witches where they announce their plans to get rid of all the children. 🤦♀️
The excitement and energy levels of these attendants feels like an E3 conference or the clips from Marvel announcing their new films coming up. The sheer excitement and thrill of being a consumer (but with the added delusion of being a "business owner")
Ok, so $60 million of the oil sold in a year, if they are $100, that’s 600,000 oils, and I just googled how many MPs there are and saw monat saying there is 450,000 MPs worldwide…oh that is not the flex they think it is at all
My jaw literally dropped when you mentioned they had a song and I ran straight to Spotify. Soooooo hilarious! It’s soooooo WEIRD! 😂😂😂 Great video once again Hannah! 👏🏻
Same but yt and might just be me but it isn’t even that great yet all the comments were like ‘yes love this inclusive anthem and family, we are such a great family’
One perspective about the all-inclusive trip thing. I think they often target a lot of women generally passed over for traditional white collar jobs that would provide these all-inclusive trips. A contract 9-5 job or a retail or a part-time job may not provide these trips. So Monat would be trying to give the MPs a level of corporate validation with these events. Love the great explanation as usual!
Just a quick thing from an attorney - the First Amendment "separation of church and state" doesn't apply to non-state actions. Private businesses, private individuals, etc. are free to conduct religious services if they choose to do so. The restriction on the establishment of religion applies ONLY to the government. Monat isn't a state/government actor, so they aren't bound by the First Amendment in that way. A lot of people misconstrue the First Amendment and how it is applied, including what constitutes "free speech." The only entity bound by the restrictions of the First Amendment is the government. So, the government can't host religious services for one faith to the exclusion of all other, but Monat, or any other corporation for that matter, can. It probably isn't common because most professional corporations don't engage in the kind of faith manipulation that MLMs do, but its rarity isn't because the First Amendment prohibits it.
Monat gives out information to MPs knowing damn well its going to be misrepresented. They cover themselves by having a compliance training video that MPs need to watch now (or watch when you renew your MP status.) It's the ultimate in gaslighting. When I was with Monat, Stuart, Monat's scientific advisory board, various leaders would ALL make false claims that would be repeated by MPs desperately posting to social media. And when MPs behaviour is called out, Monat doesn't have their backs. Blames the MPs for making false claims when it all originated with the cultish tactics of Monat itself. For example, the origin of the narrative that your hair is detoxing, hair fall is natural when starting with Monat, is on an official pdf I and other MPs were given when I joined in 2017. I still have it. It's called "What to Expect Your First 90 Days" and breaks down month by month how your hair will transform. It's categorized by Month 1, Month 2, Month 3. And says your hair will be detoxing. It's says all the shit you hear MPs still talk about. When I signed up MPs or VIPs I forwarded this info to them, made live videos about it reading directly from it. We were also given training videos about how Monat will grow your hair and regrow it. Then, once Monat got in trouble for doing that, they gaslit us all. Saying we don't actually grow hair we get your scalp healthy to create an optimum environment...or some bullshit like that. Denied that they'd ever said these things, they danced around the topics with the usual word salad. And this behaviour was emulated by leaders all the way down through the ranks. I'd bet money that the social media posts where MPs are talking about Monat winning awards on the slide with the media mentions are 100% from the strategic way the info was presented at Monations. They know exactly how they words will be interpreted, how the MPs will erroneously post on social media, and at the same time cover their asses. The confusion is immense and people can't think clearly or see they're making false claims, because they're in a cult. It's a mess. Thank you for your content, antimlm creators are helping me heal.
Wow! I love these videos Hannah! After binging on your channel I don’t learn anything new but it’s really satisfying to see how you proof MLMs are cults over and over again!
So, "91% of people are stressed about debt". I'm one of the 9% who has no debt stress. I'm suddenly feeling very important. Why do people buy that nonsense?
Your story about your mom's trips is the same for my parents. Now they don't do physical conferences as much because of Zoom but in the past, my dad went around the world on conference trips (with quite a lot of free time to tour the area -- more than one day) and it was entirely paid for!
I LOLed when you said “nobody cares about the new pineapple and dragonfruit flavors!” 😂 It’s so true. These people act like every product is God’s gift. And the products are so expensive! $100 shampoo is not normal! And my last rant. Their sales are so effing confusing. They’re like buy this, get this for $15, get that for 20% off, get this buy 1 get 1. Make it make sense! Appreciate your content!
years back I went to training as a Beauty Advisor for Estee Lauder in Mexico and I didn't have to pay for anything besides the things I wanted to do on my own apart from the group, like sightseeing. everything was paid for by the company. these requirements those MLM's have is ridiculous.
My dreaded 9 to 5 has multiple trips throughout the year. During February, we all had to go to Las Vegas for training. As long as you're within the min requirement sales goals for the first quarter, they paid for everything. Since I'm in Arizona, my agency chose to fly simultaneously via Southwest. Every two years we go to a different hotel. This was our first-year post-pandemic, and we stayed at the Paris hotel. My entire cost was $45 to add my husband to our trip because one of the main speakers during dinner was Terry Bradshaw. That was the discounted cost of the dinner (we're talking an over $125 dinner per attendee). We go from Thursday to Sunday. We have conferences and training throughout the day until 6 pm, and then our agency manager would pay for dinner for agents and spouses at some of the best restaurants the first night. The second-night dinner is paid for by our regional manager. The last night, we each go to our area of focus for dinner, and the director for that area pays. My husband was included in every dinner at no cost to me. Our second trip in July or August varies every year. It s relaxing within the USA for you and a guest (spouse or friend) for the top 25% of earners within the company. I've been invited for every one of my 23 yrs with the company. We're going to Yellow Stone this year, and I cannot wait. Our November or December trip is for the top 100 agents per state. I've been to this one 15 times out of my 23 years. Again everything is paid for, and it is a pleasure trip. We have done cruises to Ireland, Italy, France, etc. This year it is New Zealand, and I will work by touch off to make it. I have only paid for my husband's flight for my lobbying trips to Washington DC as it is one of my focus points within the job. They will pay for any upgrade needed to our room so he is comfortable. Some of the other spouses have started to join and while we work our spouses go on whatever pleasure activities they want to do.
Corporate jobs that send you on trips cover expenses, down to the coffee you have at the airport. It’s sick that these women call this “all expense paid” when the bare minimum is paid. The BARE MINIMUM.
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I got my math wrong because I forgot to multiply by 100! (It’s been a long day, please forgive me) The correct percentages are:
1.23% of people in the company are qualified for/on the Vegas trip
0.03% of people in the company are in the MDC
Sorry sorry! 🙏🏼
1.23% is still pretty abysmal!
Either way.. when she said "everyone in this room could be here" I did some quick math of my own.
4000 attendees is about 51 times 76 (the number of MDEs). So since money goes up through the pyramid and requires more market partners to put more people at the top, it would stand to reason the number of market partners should grow about 51 times in order for all 4000 people to hit the MDE soo that would require around 16 million market partners..
Obviously there are other factors but just had to illustrate how ridiculous that claim is.
Either way, super low!
You’re forgiven! Lol
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The irony of Monat holding their conference in Las Vegas, considering the famous statistic where you have a better chance of winning money playing roulette in Vegas than you do of making any money in an MLM.
Oh no 😂😂😂😂 I forgot about that stat! Oof. Big oof
Omfg lol
OMG so true also if 4000 people were there then I wonder, how many got covid?
Yeah they are immune to irony and self awareness.
Big yikes 😬 😂 This was gold
"What do you have to lose?" Financial stability, friendships, time with family, integrity, time to yourself, paid time off, health insurance, pension... what else am I missing?
Your reputation, your individuality, your sense of self, the ability to think critically, your disposable income, you mental health, and your happiness.
Absolutely!
Your hair too, apparantly
Actual work experience that you can put on a resume.
@@2446Ann Putting an MLM on your resume is more likely to put off potential future employers. What work experience is actually usefull in other jobs? Expert zoom call listener? Cold messaging experience? Social media advertising?
I couldn’t get my newborn to fall asleep so I put this on to have something to watch while I rocked her and she passed out. Hannah: queen of anti-mlm content and soother of babies😂❤️
I LOVE THIS
So funny because I do this too… and when I was pregnant and couldn’t sleep HannahS voice never failed to soothe me and shut my brain up so I could fall asleep
She seriously has the most calming voice. I've been recently having some health issues, and these videos have been helping me rest.
@@brookem225 same
Yes I often put older Hannah MLM horror stories videos on to help me go off to sleep. Maybe you should branch out into story reading Hannah 😴
So they make this trip slightly more rank-inclusive and attainable just to turn around and have top-rank-only sessions for like half of it. Cool. Love this. "OMG we're so excited for our MONAT family to be here but you still can't sit with us." 🙃
They’re so fake. There’s no unity only division. Such toxic positivity lies
👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 you absolutely nailed it.
I have a friend who went and kept calling it a free trip. She put a poll on her stories and asked who would want to go next year and it was 100% no.
OMG, that's amazing.
That’s awesome 😆
Lmfao is she new? Every hun knows to make both poll options some version of yes… yes, heck yes, YASS, etc
Rookie mistake, never provide a “no” option 😂
@@toiletfrog Hahahha OMG you’re so right!
Imagine if you worked for Pantene and every time you saw a Pantene commercial, you took a pic and put it on your social media with a huge post about how Pantene is so amazing, they're FEATURED ON TV!! lmaooo
😂😂😂😂
Even when my terrible call center 9 to 5 that paid me only 11.50 an hour as a trainer (I ranked the same as a supervisor) sent us on a trip that had travel time, air fare, hotel, car rental, and all meals completely paid for. The time I spent doing work activities like conferences was considered on the clock and was paid for. This "free trip" is definitely not the flex they think it is.
Years ago, I took two trips for work to Sacramento, all expenses paid, champagne in the SUV limo every day on the way to and from the facilities, big dinner at a great wine restaurant, etc etc etc
Plus i was still getting paid from work that week
Hello fellow former CS rep, hope you're doing well and all is great in your life :D
"Your ministry is wherever you are"; Hannah's ministry is by the pool with a margarita! Where we ALL need to be!
Agreed!!! Lololo
100% 😂 I wanna be by the pool with a margarita. Where can we sign up to attend Hannah's trip where she can minister to us?
@@hailyjohnson407 lololo
Just to add an example from the dreaded 9-5 world, my sister was a sales manager for a hotel chain and surpassed her sales quota by a lot one year. Like by 200% or something crazy. So every year the hotel chain rewarded the group of top salesmen in the company with a reward trip to a 5 star hotel in Cabo, all expenses paid with a guest. And this was not a work trip, it was strictly a reward for their hard work. The only thing I paid for was to park my car at the airport (and I was the plus one!)
The huns try to make it seem like the corporate world could never provide the rewards and lifestyle that their mlm does, but its just not true.
Yeah, my company does something similar. The top few salespeople from each region every get to go on an all expenses paid trip as a reward, with a plus one. It’s a really fun trip, we did one hotel Miami this year and it was basically, well, what monat claims it’s trips are. Except real - and we didn’t have to work during it
💯 my mom was a HOUSEKEEPER at a 5 star hotel in San Francisco. As part of the company’s year end party (before the pandemic), they gave away gifts via raffles and rewarded their top employees. My mom was a top notch worker and was gifted an all-expense paid trip for 2 to Hawaii:, flights, hotel, food, transportation- all included.
An MLM could never 🤣
Yesssss San Francisco 3x as a plus one (not Cabo but better than home 😎)
Yes, this is super common in actual sales jobs! My husband (who also works from home and sets his own schedule), and his team, exceeded their sales goals and got an all expenses paid trip to a 5 star resort for them and one other person. It wasn’t even a work trip. We just got to go for 5 days and have a vacation for free. Not to mention his company sales kick offs are always in super fun locations, all expenses paid and they get to keep their airline and hotel points. And they do that twice a year. If you need “time freedom” and want to be a salesperson, then just get a real sales job. It is super easy to find remote sales work, and you get a base salary on top of your commission.
@@rachelr9352 Ah, but then there's like actual regulations and oversight you have to abide by, can't just dump customer data in random personal Google docs and pressure-sell to vulnerable people and make spurious claims... How do you actually close deals while being ethical and honest without, like, actual effort and integrity? Sounds like a fairytale. 😏
I've said it before and I'll say it here: I work for a Christian company and we don't do worship services as part of our work activities. It's weird for a secular company to do that, what about the reps who aren't Christian or religious at all? I'm glad Stuart isn't a pastor because yikes, but this is a big yikes too. I hate these MLMs using faith as a money-making tactic. It's gross.
Random, do you happen to live in Oklahoma? haha I know someone with your name so I'm curious!
@@laurenmorris4652 Oh my gosh hey! Did not expect to see a familiar name here!
@@elizabethmccready that’s so funny! What are the odds we’d be watching the same channel!
I worked for a non denominational faith based company but I could tell they were protestant Christian. (Probably noticed because that's what I am)
We did have a church service at a local church during our conferences but it was optional.
it wasnt mandatory.... none of the sessions were. :)
While watching this I equated this trip to someone being strung along in a relationship. They are whisked away to a place and paid attention to. Wined and dined. Given a sense of hope and revived into staying in this manipulative, toxic, one-sided relationship. It’s so sad.
Well put!
Thank you for posting. I’ve been having a really hard mental health day and slept til like 2pm. But I put you on in the background and did my dishes and did some meal prep and I feel a little better. I know it’s not enough and my apartment is still a mess but thank you for getting me out of bed. Made me feel less alone. 💕
You’re absolutely not alone ❤️
We are here for you! 💖 sometimes just getting out of bed is a huge accomplishment
I've been there and still am to some extent. I decided to try the idea that you clean for 10 minutes every hour you are home and awake. I didn't think I would get much done but it adds up! I'm also very disorganized. So I sometimes use my 10 minutes to clean out a drawer. I not only organize it but it gives me space to put more in it so I don't have so much stuff sitting on surfaces and making my house look cluttered.
As another person wrote, you are definitely not alone! Hang in there.
I'm in the same boat! Barely keeping my head out of water. You're not alone. Love from Iowa ❤️
Same here sister! Hannah's videos are calming and engaging at the same time.
I worked for a professional photography magazine years ago, and our advertisers always got editorial mentions. Monat is not getting hailed because people at those journals like their products. Most fashion/beauty mags will mention MLM products...for a price. Those "editors' choice awards" are often paid for by ad dollars, too.
I can see how so many people can be drawn into an MLM. Who wouldn’t want to feel “supported” and “loved” and pushed to achieve you dreams. What immediately popped into my head is “Don't dream it, be it” from The Rocky Horror Picture Show. That didn’t end very well for Frank-N-Furter. It’s sad to see how fake it really is.
Fantastic analogy!
I almost fell for these free trips! But totally, a 9 to 5 definitely lets me fly direct, check bags, take a taxi, have a room to myself, and pay for all meals! Oh yea and i don't pay taxes on it!
I have been binging your content for 2 weeks afted deciding to leave my MLM. But this video did it, I was in a cult 😭
I’m so happy you’re here Brittany! ❤️
Congratualtions on getting out!!! I wish you the best!
@@HannahAlonzo thank you so much ❤❤
@@lavenderreign9655 thank you!
That ‘Media Mentions’ section had serious Scientology convention vibes. 7 million free clinics built! 0% prison recidivism rate! Some real culterama here.
Hi Hannah! I don’t typically comment but I wanted to say how much I appreciate your delivery of these topics. You’re eloquent and respectful yet still very entertaining with great commentary. Your growth is well deserved and I hope you never stop being you.
At 30:16 I have to give a correction. The Establishment Clause of the Constitution applies only to State actors. It wouldn't matter whether Monat reps were actual employees of the company or not, they're a private business and can engage in religious expression. However, they cannot discriminate against reps who choose not to engage in religious services sponsored by the company. There's a lot more nuance involved, but generally speaking 1A protections and Congressional restrictions are limited to State actors.
I was about to say something similar. The fact that all the reps are technically contractors might even allow them to cut ties with you for not worshiping (unsure). But, as an MLM they need everyone to join, so it probably doesn't come up often.
Hannah, I am so happy you are uploading longer content more frequently! I saw the time stamp and had to instantly watch, I love being early! I also have a story to send in about my time with Mary Kay. Thank you for spreading the word of how vile MLMs are!
I doubt that Monat paid even that much on the hotel. A company can get a break if they book a certain amount of rooms. I’m sure for them it’s a tax right off, while for the people attending the conference is paying the taxes.
Not to mention it's a butt-load of free advertising so it probably comes right out of their marketing budget and they barely had to lift a finger. That's all these "conferences" really are.
'...because the reps are the customers.' Excellent analysis from start to finish, Hannah.
It's a little astonishing that Monat is still in business. I would love to see their books.
It honestly makes me so sad to hear a woman say she’s scared to see herself as worthy of being at the top of an MLM. I just want to hug her and tell her that she’s worth so, so, so much more than that.
She went on and on for sooo long too! I was like why are you not talking with a friend about these feelings?! The strangers on internet don’t care! A friend could help channel the good ideas about self-worth, confidence, and risk taking into tangible, lasting results and steer her away from the overcommitment to this monetary black hole.
It’s just sad honestly. 😔
Even as a public school teacher I've been on conference trips that were completely paid for, where I picked the flight, the hotel and had 3 meals a day covered (albeit with price limits - I paid out of pocket for extra). Shoot, even when I worked for Monster Energy handing out samples, we'd have everything paid for if we had to work an overnight event, and Monster put us up in really nice hotels!
Yep…that last qualification part about being an mmp….that’s when I quit, I worked my
Butt off Trying to sell enough shampoo to earn this trip and my upline said I could do it in just sales….then the last month I realized I needed to recruit 🤦🏼♀️ and that’s when I discovered this anti mlm movement and a lot of clarity lol
I was self-employed (not an MLM) for 10 years. It was either feast or famine….very stressful. So, I took a “9 to 5” job with another firm…doing the same thing. Now, I’m about to retire after 18 years with a big-fa 401(k)….and feeling pretty proud of myself.
Nearly an hour long. Hannah. My god. You queen. 👑😭
Holy moly I clicked so fast! So I live in Vegas and I actually know performers who jumped at the chance to do a gig for this Monat reunion.. I was scrolling through my Instagram stories and saw one after another posting pics and video from the event 🙄 I couldn’t help myself and had to share this nugget to my story..
‘People really out here proud of doing a gig for a KNOWN MLM PYRAMID SCHEME 💀 some performers will do anything for money’
I love how that one girl was going on about how much time you have to devote to a 9 to 5 job right after she bragged about how exhausted she was from going to this conference…
When you touched on faith manipulation, I remember when my aunt invited us to a Tupperware conference back when I was a kid.
They hired Gary V (not Gary Vee, I promise), a famous local singer. The thing with Gary is that he is a pop star turned Christian singer. So when the fun party songs stopped, the whole concert suddenly turned into a Sunday worship service. As a kid, I didn't think much about it. But now I realized how a LOT of MLMs use religion as a way to make people stay. And it's especially effective for Christian-dominated countries
It's Gary Valenciano, right? When I first heard of Gary Vee/Gary Vaynerchuk (Pardon if I messed up the spelling) on the internet, I thought he was the same as that artist, but he's not. But yeah, I think I know which country you may be talking about, and yes, the faith manipulation sucks, and I really despise MLMs doing this sort of thing.
If my employer made me go to church id be fuming. This whole conference is a waste of time and money. Just there to create FOMO and it works… I hope more and more people come across this content and have their eyes opened.
Worship/church is optional. It’s not mandatory
@@annakarenguerra3839 yeah… I think we found one
The clip of the woman who was so tired, but also euphoric, ready to go "all in" but also full of "self-doubt" -- she could have spoken at one of the many conferences and retreats I attended when I was younger. She'd just have to change a few terms, and she'd fit right in. I was in an actual cult, btw.
Brainwashing 101
Cults have really changed since I was a teen in the 90's. Shit, I had to deal with taking 'shrooms, drinking cheap cider, mediation on Glastonbury Tor and fending off creepy older guys wanting to get "spiritual" with me.
This MLM and the BITE Model are truly horrifying.
@@mercyjokes2d696 Ha, that sounds horrific. I was in a very dull cult that looked respectable on the outside -- it wasn't like most of us lived anywhere close to the leader -- but it still used the BITE model to keep a hold on its members. It was hard to convince ourselves and others how damaging it was. This is why I identify so strongly with anti-MLM stuff, I guess.
I have thoughts.
1. How can they say one of the perks of the trip is “networking” when THEY ALL DO THE SAME THING.
2. Sooooooo you really don’t get that much free time to enjoy your “free” trip.
3. Didn’t they announce the new flavors at the Director summit? Why is everyone so excited?
4. Does it ever occur to them that if Monat can afford to have these weekly flash sales with such insanely low prices, that maaaaaaybe they’re getting ripped off?
5. Didn’t Angelique have like nine Rejuvenique oils on her shelf? That’s your high sales numbers right there. How many bottles does each rep have in their home?
6. Is she wearing lingerie. Why is she wearing lingerie.
7. “Team dinner”. Do they have to pay for those? I remember at Mary Kay seminar we had multiple dinner events we had to pay for. And less free time.
8. Last one. Anyone else having a chuckle over them having a church service on the last day of a trip to Sun City? 😜
I though the only church service in Vagas is the drunk wedding 🤣🤣
I thought that top looked like the top of a wedding dress 🤣 but you’re right, it did look like lingerie
I don't know if this has been mentioned, but I'm pretty sure they have that second day full of content and required attendance to make sure they can write off all of the expenses on taxes. Not only are they defrauding reps but also the government.
One thing I find fascinating is that they bash that “.50 cent raise”, but yet they’re statistically not even making that as an hourly rate.
That's a guaranteed $1000 more a year. They can't guarantee even $1.
Sorry, but I'll take a regular paycheck and benefits over the MLM gamble any day of the week.
Monat: Girl Boss - Gaslight - Gatekeep Also, the Monat Hun that was so tired from the convention is also obviously SICK. Spreading germs upon germs. Awesome!
The virus is not over yet!
Yeah, I thought she sounded incredibly bunged up/had blocked up sinuses.
For business trips for the “dreaded 9-5” those are typically not only on the company, but also not included as “taxable income” after the fact
I was in Nashville a few years ago during a Rodan & Fields convention. Thankfully we didn’t cross paths, but I had a Lyft driver spill the tea; he didn’t think too highly of them short of the fact they tipped really well. I don’t think R&F covers your rideshare tips, but you do you.
Is this the proactive people 🤔
@@donnawhiteduck3379 yes, the doctors who created proactive also created Rodan and Fields. I forget which came first though
@@hailyjohnson407 proactive, but they sold proactive
I work for a high end salon supply company for professionals only. I get paid hourly, I get $100+ of free product a month, and we have regular sales contests so I regularly have $150+ bonuses. I get extra sick time and extra PTO, paid bereavement leave, and healthcare. We’re currently competing for an actually free, all inclusive trip to Cancun. Monat huns WISH they had what I have.
Hey Hannah!! I really enjoyed this video. I wasn't going to comment but I'm a Christian and it really frustrates me that this company is using His name to manipulate people. This is not good!!
I love how fast you got this video up 🤝🙃 also I can say that unfortunately I was a monat market partner at one point 🥴 and they purposely tell you in trainings to pick a high up director in the company and copy everything they do (on their stories, posts, lives, etc) to replicate their success. Because “you never want to take advice from someone who doesn’t have the level of success you want”. That’s probably why multiple girls were copying that one director’s stories. Honestly embarrassing, and so glad I never listened to this advice. My 500 instagram followers would have been so confused 😂
I hate this - the amount of emotional manipulation flabbergasts me. It's so hard to disconnect from that kind of community, so many of these girls have dealt with it from a very young age at home ,and then with their religion and now their 'job'. This is their normal and I fear it'll take a foundational change in our culture to save most of them
I think you really nailed this one. This video is especially well researched, constructed, and presented. I love listening to your perspectives and the consistent energy in these long videos, it makes the day go by faster!
I recently started bingeing your channel and am obsessed with your content! I grew up in a church that operated sooo much like a cult and the similarities between it and mlms is just insane. would love to talk about it sometime but I wouldnt even know where to begin~ (also have a few mlm stories of my own!)
Not me thinking she said her team was dressing in “all SALAD colors”’🤣
i was cleaning my room while watching this video and when i heard you say "monat theme song" i did a 180, and you looked at the camera and said "yes, they have a monat theme song" as if you could see my reaction 😂
It's so much cheaper to just go to Vegas on your own dime than through an MLM. Imagine if I had to sell a certain amount of servers and network switches in order to get a TRAINING trip?! I don't think the bank would give me a loan for that 😅
I was roped Into Monat in 2021 I left like 2 months later so I am so obsessed with your Monat videoa
I absolutely love watching this I hadn’t even heard of MLM until I found you last week. It’s amazing to me how I hadn’t realised how much of everyday life is taken over by MLM companies. This video was rather shocking and sad that these people don’t understand that they aren’t helping themselves . Please make more continue to spread the word about the brainwashing . Your channel is by far the best one I’ve seen doing this kind of content I truly think that you can help and save people. 🥰❤️🥰
Beachbody sent their "coaches" to Punta Cana but they had early morning workouts every day, meetings/conference style sessions, and then evening events to attend. Seemed like a lot of work for a "vacation".
I am blown away listening to their theme song and I was instantly transported back to when one of my old Beachbody teammates wrote a song inspired by the theme of BB summit that year. There's a video of all of us singing somewhere. 🙈
There needs to be a compilation of out of context Hannah quotes where she's speaking for the mlmers lol
I love your videos Hannah I just found you and I’m binging them!! Ugh I got suckered into young living and monat (just buying) never joined. But the products are garbage and I really can’t believe how much money I spent on OILS. Monat made my hair greasy and I was told to use a smaller amount and to not put conditioner ONLY on my ends… I was like how am I suppose to brush through my hair with zero to no conditioner in it. 💀😅keep it up girl!!!
Yes the shampoo made mine gummy. They said it was my hair detoxing from the old products I used prior to Monat...guess what??? My current shampoo has never done this 🤣🤣🤣
All the 'free' things these mlms say you get. But not one of them fully explains the tax responsibility (just hides it in the small print) to the poor reps. I wonder if the mlm company get a tax break for these trips etc?
3:04 "it's that MOFAM feeling" 🤮
i've had enough with these MO- puns
NO MO
@@katyr2382 🤣🤣🤣
39:01 “I’m about to be making $1 million selling shampoo”
That phrase alone should have made her wake up. 🤦♀️ hopefully she will someday.
Just an random fyi, the “separation of church and state” is not in the 1st amendment, it’s actually from a letter Thomas Jefferson wrote. Loved this video! I love seeing a peek into this freaky world 😂
Yes, I was going to do that. The first amendment just states that Congress can’t make a law establishing a state religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof. It says nothing about businesses combining faith with economic practices, in the same way as the first amendment doesn’t prohibit private businesses from limiting speech on their platforms.
At the same time, it’s still extremely sketchy, and in my opinion, sacreligious, to use church services as a tactic to sell your product.
It's like Christmas when I see you uploaded a new video! Looking forward to a good listen tonight!
Man...a whole convention center filled with Monat reps jacked up in Energy Sticks sounds like "RUN AWAY!!!!"
As a cradle Catholic who has worked as a nurse in a faith based hospital I am so disgusted by the faith manipulation that MLMs use. A career as a master manipulator...not a boss babe...not a small business owner...a puppet used as a manipulator using God and faith because u can't use logic and facts. It gives actual faith based companies and organizations a bad name. These people that know the truth and know their own struggle with the company and keep that a secret and said God led them to this company should be completely ashamed of themselves. I wonder what people think when then join the company through a friend who used God to reel them in. How do u stay friends with that person after they lied and manipulated u to throw ur money and time away. Sorry for the rant. It's just infuriating all the way around.
When the lady said her team is dressing in “solid colors” I heard “SALAD colors” I was so confused
Wow. That drink mixture launch was insanely similar to the launch Jamberry had: the hype around flavors, the “limited” supply, even the colors…
Girl they tell them to do that. I've never been in monat but I've been to that type of event before. They tell you to all get out your phones and take a picture and post it at the same time.
This is absolutely no shade to anyone but I have to say Hannah, you are my favorite anti mlm creator. You seem like such a sweet spirit not to mention naturally beautiful. I’m happy to see your channel is growing! I will be sending my anti mlm story in here soon. Good ole Timehop supplied me with a old Facebook post when I briefly sold MARY KAY. It was a lot worse then what I thought when I went through it, not to mention this was 2013-14 and I had no idea what a mlm was.
i apreciate the even handed tone i dont know that i could get through the whole thing without roasting everyone
When I travel for work it’s 100% paid for. Hell I even went to Disney land after my work meeting and they covered that. Actually when I travelled to Hawaii they paid for my connecting flights when I extended my trip to check out a few more islands. Their trips are not paid for 😂 also I pick whatever flights I want. Whatever hotels I want… not even comparable.
you payed with all the money they took from your taxes and insurance that you didn't use
@@user-vm1vk5il2n If people aren't paying taxes on their earnings from an MLM they are committing tax fraud.
I've been binging all of your videos for the last week or so & I think I've pretty much watched them all now, I even listen to you to go to sleep 🤣 so imagine how happy I was to see that you've uploaded something new. So much love to you Hannah, you & your videos have been keeping me sane. Love from Scotland 💕
There are a two character attributes that I prefer people around me have. I also prefer people that I listen to have them.
You have both. You're empathetic and have integrity.
Thank you for you videos and all of the work that goes into them.
Your long videos are such a treat! Tea makes for a good pairing for these. 💜💜💜 PS - my merch arrived! Glad to see the tops are made in Honduras and Nicaragua (the sweatshirt is sooooo soft against the skin). And I didn't expect the Z&C sticker to be so BIG. Love them all.
These conventions & the way the people ’cheer’ in them reminds me of when I was a teenager & my family used 2 go 2 game show recordings & there were signs above that would flash with the words ‘applause’ & ‘cheer’. the producers would press the button the sign would flash & just like little minions we would over they sign. 💞💞💞💞💞
Omg. Someone that has mutual friends with me was there posting about how much fun she was having… but I was being nosey & saw her sulking in the background of other Huns IG stories !??? 😭
🤦🏽♀️😅
It scares me how many cult and MLM tactics were used by an old job of mine. Love bombing, victim blaming, shunning, pushing recruitment. It WAS a legitimate job with benefits, but you got major bonuses if someone you referred stayed with the company. I wouldn’t be surprised if the founder had a history in MLMs.
As a Christian and a church goer myself. I would find it very weird and uncomfortable for a company like that have a church service. There also were probably many people that felt pressure to go which is beyond wrong.
These conference announcements, especially the drink flavor announcements around 25:30 remind me of that scene in Roald Dahl’s The Witches where they announce their plans to get rid of all the children. 🤦♀️
Your side eye, eye rolling, and faces cracks me the frack up!
“Oh my god!! The new flavours are launching!!!” Was awesome and hilarious Hannah 👏
I just about died from the MFM reference! Keep fighting the good fight against mlms.
“Starting MY business with THIS COMPANY” make it make sense how they are their own business owners?
Ooooo, GOODY... I've been waiting for a rundown on this mess of a weekend.
Great info and analysis, as always. (Hi kittehs!! 🐈)
The excitement and energy levels of these attendants feels like an E3 conference or the clips from Marvel announcing their new films coming up. The sheer excitement and thrill of being a consumer (but with the added delusion of being a "business owner")
Honestly with how much MLMs and cults have in common it's not surprising that so many people in cults also "work the biss"
Ok, so $60 million of the oil sold in a year, if they are $100, that’s 600,000 oils, and I just googled how many MPs there are and saw monat saying there is 450,000 MPs worldwide…oh that is not the flex they think it is at all
My jaw literally dropped when you mentioned they had a song and I ran straight to Spotify. Soooooo hilarious! It’s soooooo WEIRD! 😂😂😂 Great video once again Hannah! 👏🏻
Same but yt and might just be me but it isn’t even that great yet all the comments were like ‘yes love this inclusive anthem and family, we are such a great family’
@@Tismeabbie same! Lol it sounds like a generic version of a Disney song, but like Disney going through bankruptcy trying to make a comeback.
Your channel gives me so much peace… I binge watch your content
One perspective about the all-inclusive trip thing. I think they often target a lot of women generally passed over for traditional white collar jobs that would provide these all-inclusive trips. A contract 9-5 job or a retail or a part-time job may not provide these trips. So Monat would be trying to give the MPs a level of corporate validation with these events. Love the great explanation as usual!
Just a quick thing from an attorney - the First Amendment "separation of church and state" doesn't apply to non-state actions. Private businesses, private individuals, etc. are free to conduct religious services if they choose to do so. The restriction on the establishment of religion applies ONLY to the government. Monat isn't a state/government actor, so they aren't bound by the First Amendment in that way. A lot of people misconstrue the First Amendment and how it is applied, including what constitutes "free speech." The only entity bound by the restrictions of the First Amendment is the government. So, the government can't host religious services for one faith to the exclusion of all other, but Monat, or any other corporation for that matter, can. It probably isn't common because most professional corporations don't engage in the kind of faith manipulation that MLMs do, but its rarity isn't because the First Amendment prohibits it.
Monat gives out information to MPs knowing damn well its going to be misrepresented. They cover themselves by having a compliance training video that MPs need to watch now (or watch when you renew your MP status.) It's the ultimate in gaslighting. When I was with Monat, Stuart, Monat's scientific advisory board, various leaders would ALL make false claims that would be repeated by MPs desperately posting to social media. And when MPs behaviour is called out, Monat doesn't have their backs. Blames the MPs for making false claims when it all originated with the cultish tactics of Monat itself.
For example, the origin of the narrative that your hair is detoxing, hair fall is natural when starting with Monat, is on an official pdf I and other MPs were given when I joined in 2017. I still have it. It's called "What to Expect Your First 90 Days" and breaks down month by month how your hair will transform. It's categorized by Month 1, Month 2, Month 3. And says your hair will be detoxing. It's says all the shit you hear MPs still talk about. When I signed up MPs or VIPs I forwarded this info to them, made live videos about it reading directly from it.
We were also given training videos about how Monat will grow your hair and regrow it.
Then, once Monat got in trouble for doing that, they gaslit us all. Saying we don't actually grow hair we get your scalp healthy to create an optimum environment...or some bullshit like that. Denied that they'd ever said these things, they danced around the topics with the usual word salad. And this behaviour was emulated by leaders all the way down through the ranks.
I'd bet money that the social media posts where MPs are talking about Monat winning awards on the slide with the media mentions are 100% from the strategic way the info was presented at Monations. They know exactly how they words will be interpreted, how the MPs will erroneously post on social media, and at the same time cover their asses.
The confusion is immense and people can't think clearly or see they're making false claims, because they're in a cult. It's a mess. Thank you for your content, antimlm creators are helping me heal.
Wow! I love these videos Hannah! After binging on your channel I don’t learn anything new but it’s really satisfying to see how you proof MLMs are cults over and over again!
The clip of the girl talking about everything she learned at the conference just makes me so sad. So brainwashed. It truly breaks my heart 💔😢
So, "91% of people are stressed about debt". I'm one of the 9% who has no debt stress. I'm suddenly feeling very important. Why do people buy that nonsense?
I have no debt stress, but my sole income is disability. Haha
There are special torture rooms in hell: one is eternity at an MLM conference.
I would love to see a huns reaction reading some of the stories 9-5ers share about their work trips. Just to see how they’d interpret and retell them
Your story about your mom's trips is the same for my parents. Now they don't do physical conferences as much because of Zoom but in the past, my dad went around the world on conference trips (with quite a lot of free time to tour the area -- more than one day) and it was entirely paid for!
I LOLed when you said “nobody cares about the new pineapple and dragonfruit flavors!” 😂
It’s so true. These people act like every product is God’s gift. And the products are so expensive! $100 shampoo is not normal!
And my last rant. Their sales are so effing confusing. They’re like buy this, get this for $15, get that for 20% off, get this buy 1 get 1. Make it make sense!
Appreciate your content!
years back I went to training as a Beauty Advisor for Estee Lauder in Mexico and I didn't have to pay for anything besides the things I wanted to do on my own apart from the group, like sightseeing. everything was paid for by the company. these requirements those MLM's have is ridiculous.
I’m going to Vegas (from Kentucky) in September for my birthday and it was $1,400 for two people. Definitely would be cheaper just go to on your own.
My dreaded 9 to 5 has multiple trips throughout the year. During February, we all had to go to Las Vegas for training. As long as you're within the min requirement sales goals for the first quarter, they paid for everything. Since I'm in Arizona, my agency chose to fly simultaneously via Southwest. Every two years we go to a different hotel. This was our first-year post-pandemic, and we stayed at the Paris hotel. My entire cost was $45 to add my husband to our trip because one of the main speakers during dinner was Terry Bradshaw. That was the discounted cost of the dinner (we're talking an over $125 dinner per attendee). We go from Thursday to Sunday. We have conferences and training throughout the day until 6 pm, and then our agency manager would pay for dinner for agents and spouses at some of the best restaurants the first night. The second-night dinner is paid for by our regional manager. The last night, we each go to our area of focus for dinner, and the director for that area pays. My husband was included in every dinner at no cost to me. Our second trip in July or August varies every year. It s relaxing within the USA for you and a guest (spouse or friend) for the top 25% of earners within the company. I've been invited for every one of my 23 yrs with the company. We're going to Yellow Stone this year, and I cannot wait. Our November or December trip is for the top 100 agents per state. I've been to this one 15 times out of my 23 years. Again everything is paid for, and it is a pleasure trip. We have done cruises to Ireland, Italy, France, etc. This year it is New Zealand, and I will work by touch off to make it. I have only paid for my husband's flight for my lobbying trips to Washington DC as it is one of my focus points within the job. They will pay for any upgrade needed to our room so he is comfortable. Some of the other spouses have started to join and while we work our spouses go on whatever pleasure activities they want to do.
Corporate jobs that send you on trips cover expenses, down to the coffee you have at the airport. It’s sick that these women call this “all expense paid” when the bare minimum is paid. The BARE MINIMUM.