Magnus Carlsen vs 2500 GM: The Difference
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When I started playing, I saw chess as a strategic, tactical game but the more I learn about chess the more I think it's a memory game.
It is. Just the greatest memory game of all.
Only the openings involve "remembering" stuff.
It’s memory in the opening and mid game, but pure strategy at the endgame I would say.
Really just the opening and a bit of the middlegame
memorization is why Bobby Fischer said he hated chess.
If 2300 is international master, 2500 is grandmaster, 2700 is super grandmaster, and Magnus was once 2882, does this mean Magnus was almost a super duper grandmaster?
Nah it makes him the world's best player
2300 is fide master and 2400 is international master
He almost went further beyond AAAAAAAHHHH!!!
+2800 is best in the world
@@wompastompa3692ssj3 vibes
This video reminded me of just how good Levy is at genuinely analyzing a chess game. Through most of his videos, we get to see his entertaining side, which is fine, but occasionally, it's great to see him do a 30-minute deep dive into one chess game. Hope he does this more, and for really interesting tournaments like the ECCC.
Agree
@@icarusflying1814😕
bro anyone can analyze games using stockfish like levy
@@FlagerMiszczso you wouldve been able to explain why trading off the bishops was the one thing that tipped the scales in magnus favor 25 moves later? Doubt it
I second that. My least favorite Gotham series is the "Guess the Elo" watching patzers play. I'm 2100 (on LiChess).
Shout out to levy for showcasing new and upcoming grandmasters. This Magnos guy seems like he’s got a bright future ahead of him.
Mango you mean good sir
ngl i likr carlos magnusson more@@mangomasteris3820
Mignis*
Maguns*
Magnet*
Life goal: watch Levy talk about chess at 102 years of age.
Easy
I'll join you in this quest
Watch Levy talk about Magnus at 102 years.
Glazing
Tho rephrase that: Watch Levy not be a GM at 102 years of age
I like how Levy managed to up himself above GM title, after not achieving it, well played sir
edit: I did not misspell Levy's name, carry on
😂😂😂😂 npc
he hasnt? his rating is 2200 fide..
@@zGamer_YT.2430 max or smth like that
Bro really want the pin of shame
@@zGamer_YT. rewatch the intro
As someone who guessed Bb1 correctly I consider myself the second greatest player after Magnus. Also I am 800 rated.
Sure only possible problem is that we would hang a Queen after knight takes pawn on e5.
I think that if anyone could find a way to hang a queen on move 1, it would be an 800.
(I'm currently like 1150 in rapid, BTW)
@@tannerbenson7864 I don't think any rating under 1200-1300 is accurate. Like I played 1000's that play better than 1250's because it's complete chaos here. 1300+ is when people stop doing stupid mistakes
Ah yes, I too suffer from the dunning Kruger effect
I saw it too but when Ravi moved pawn h6 I realized I still have no idea what to follow that up with
Can we just take a moment and give props to Ravi. Man played an over an hour against Magnus and had an equal position.
I love how super Grandmaster isn't official, but everyone knows what it is
Or we can say who is it!
For decades, grandmaster and master weren't official, but everyone knew what they were.
At this point we even need a title above that, MGM Magnus Grand Master. He's the only person in history to maintain a rating above 2800 this long.
@@theaxehandle1 Just name em, GM-1(Grandmaster-1), GM-2(Grandmaster-2) and even beyond that is GM-3(Grandmaster-3). And beyond that would be GM-G(Grandmaster-God), then even beyond that would be GM-B(Grandmaster-Blue).
Can we appreciate Magnus for continuing to playing chess so that Levi can continue his job?
who's levi?
brrruhhhhh its gotham chess's real name@@asimmoideen5960
@@Taigu1306 nah bro that's not his name 💀
@@upgradeamongus its aaaaa jokeeeee
@@upgradeamongus iiiiii knoooooow
That you manage to keep me entertained for 30minutes watching magnus play a game vs a 2500 is more impressive than this game
Dude could talk about paint drying and make me more interested about it than Chael Sonnen could. I just discovered Levy. Props.
@@executivelifehacks6747yeah exactly . I only remember 2 channels like that.
Gotham chess and there was a second one but it just fell outta my head
Edit NOW I REMEMBER
Second channel is 3klicksphilip!
14:43 petition for levy to be a chess commentator!
Levy, can u pls keep this sort of content coming? A more in depth analysis of just a game or two. This is where I learn the most from you. Even if it's not just Magnus, this is the type of content i love most from ur channel. And probably the most informative in terms of learning chess (for me at least)
Your last video on this same topic is one of my favorites of yours--I'm so glad to see another! Thank you Levy, these are always some of the most instructive games
chiming in to say that i rarely watch chess videos, but the title kind of hooked me. the way you prefaced the game and got to the first few moves with stats such as "the last time magnus played this opening was 19 years ago" was definitely intriguing. once you got me to rook a to e1 i was done for. i was kind of expecting a video of a broader look at chess ratings, but you successfully kept my attention through what ended up being a somewhat normal style chess analysis video. huge props man for being able to do that
Weird stumpling on a chess video as i never watch or play any of it. Even weirder to recognize someone it the comments
This guy knows how to make chess suspenseful
LOKI
@@sortakindaunique it’s a pleasure and an honor 🙏
The move at 9:48 was just peak Magnus. This shows why he's the GOAT
And levy's explanation was also good
The psychic damage incurred that forced the junk into the eye was indeed a move unseen in the chess world
As an 1800 im starting to appreciate Magnus's universalstyle very much. He was Garry(Re1) + Karpov(prophylactic a3) + Fischer(aggressive g4 after since he had a tempo)
WOW! This might just be your best game analysis till now Levy. Very instructional and very entertaining! I follow you for nearly two years now and you keep improving. Well done buddy!
You took the piss about watching chess in a bar with the commentary. But thats how i feel in love with chess again. It was tata steel 2020 (i think) , in lockdown thanks to covid. The commentary for the games was fascinating, that sort of deep dive you did while the players took 20mins for a move. With the right commentator team it can be so fun to watch.
Chess actually is televised in Norway. Most big tournaments that Magnus participates in
Hvilken kanal?
@@marcussg0813 er det ikke tv2 sport stort sett? Fulgt med en del på tv2 play. Nrk dekker også VM som regel
nrk, hvertfall i juletider@@marcussg0813
@@marcussg0813 nrk
I'm also on my quest to become a grandmaster. I started playing only 2 years ago during the pandemic and I'm already 800!
My future is surely bright.
400 per year, in 10 years you'll be 4000. That's how extrapolations work, right?
well, that's actually brilliant, you got 800! elo, which is around 7.7153×10¹⁹⁷⁶
Yo will become one of the best players in 7 years . In 9 years you will be unstoppable
Guys wish me luck, another guy blundered his queen and I'm at 874!
Me started chess one year ago and reached 900: 👁️👄👁️
What would Levi do without this magus guy😔
Not funny
@@Hahahahaha1153 agreed. for real
Magus
i ship levi x magus
Tru
Levy's British accent is surprisingly fantastic, coming from a Brit
As a 25 elo player I can confirm that Magnet destroyed me in chess
Is Magnet the Magnus of tinfoil elo?
Magnet Charleston
The only man who entertains for 30 min. Straight with no down sides, with chess knowledge....
Its still a dream for many other youtubers
Sometimes without a cut, wich is true mastery!
the little Qe3 shift is beautiful. just casually stepping out of any tactics while deflecting opponent's queen back to the queen side, which then enables the king side attack.
Thank you for showing the eval bar with your cursor. Been watching you for a few years now and you comment on the eval a lot, but I never knew where you were getting the info. I always thought that was just a border of the display, did not know it actually moved.
Alagash white is one of my favorite beers and, if it were available, I would definitely watch classical chess at a sports bar 😂
It is exactly as you said Levy: understand where the pawn breakthroughs are, to induce specific ideas, because after it happens, the strategy becomes something else.
After Qatar Masters results that you're covering this past week, feels like there could be a follow-up to this regarding current 2500 that haven't had a lot of opportunity post/during covid to face the top talent. It's been fascinating and thanks for the content!
14:40 - That commentary sounded like the F1 commentators at a Little Tikes circuit, and I'm here for it!
Magnus immediately plays Nc3... but first he castles
I love that word "alien" to describe some of Magnus's moves. Moves that are incomprehensible, otherworldly, and counterintuitive, but with deep and powerful logic underpinning them. That he can find correct moves this weird and subtle is a monument to his chess abilities.
Never seen a chess breakdown like this. Love your enthusiasm. Keep up the good work!
What did I learn? That I know nothing.
I really like these longer analyses of single games
I don't think anyone over 2700 maybe 2800 needs a unique title. There's only really a handful of people in the world with those super high ratings and they're already known by name. A new title would be superfluous for them.
Chess is a great sport to watch after the match and hear game analysis, that's why chess organizers and those profiting from it need to think differently than normal sports. As Levy said, nobody is going to set hour and a half spectating a match of chess, but so many people are watching streamers analyzing games. They need to think outside the box, without ruining classical chess either wither by just blitzing the game or doing anything crazy!!
There should definitely be a new highest ranking title or a completely new system for titles since gm was created in 1950 and there has been a massive rating increase since that year
ordered the book. would like to see topic: engine analysis of mirror symmetry vs. point symmetry in the starting position.
Levy, please one day make a video of Tromposky games!!!
Your London/ Tromposky course was extremely well done.
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This also applies to martial arts. There are black belt jiu jitsu practitioners who trains casually and eventually they get a black belt and professionals who trains for a living. They are both on paper black belts but when they roll it looks like one of them is a beginner.
Absolute masterclass in how to make engaging videos thanks, Levy 😁😁
Hey epic chess, love your videos ❤
Levy's ability to predict Magnus' moves is absolutely spot on. He really has super GM qualities...🤫
Not sure if you're joking, but he knows the moves ahead of time...
He didn't predict, he already knew.
@Tidbit0123 yeah...sarcasm can be lost over text unfortunately. I just really lol'd when he said he 'thinks' he figured out Magnus' game plan when he made the re1 move...and then sure enough the bishop move comes right after his 'theory' lmao.
@Keya_ of course he already knew but that's not how he presented it.
@@mydogniko I think he was more referring to the why, not the what in that case. But yeah I can understand what you mean
I Absolutely love how Levy explains chess games and presents everything
14:44 Do it again, Do it again 😂. Please in next video
Love when you give a deeper analysis of the games 🙌🏽
and when you turn the eval bar off 🙌🏽
This was wildly entertaining. As someone wjo only knows the basics it was actually fairly easy to follow and see the skill and artistry involved.
Very interesting. SGM should be a valid title. Anyone crossing 2700 perhaps, like Nihal Sarin just did.
Or 2750
Or 2701
Really wanting an episode of Levy doing the British commentary voice 😂😂
The mindgames here are insane:
- The fake pawn push with the double rooks while actually just setting a roadblock of the pawns to coax a desperate sacrifice at some point
- The fakeout with the queen and rook to the left to make it look like his real plan was to shift to infiltrate into black's ranks starting with the queen and then barreling with the rook and bishop, purposely keeping his own queen also on the dark squares to sell it.
I wonder if Magnus had kept those fakes as potential real options or if he was deadset on the bishop/queen threat. That knight guarding all the key dark squares worked so perfectly, knowing Ravi's queen was going to act as a dark bishop, but simultaneously it would only take one move to get the knight to attacking some light squares in Ravi's ranks. Same with the bishop just one move from targeting any light squares...
Magnus probably kept all options viable on purpose... such incredible precision...
17:25 was this actually the top engine move for Ravi here, or was there some alternative he could play to keep his pawn structure?
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Fun fact:this guy is not possible without magson
Id like to see Levy dissect some of his OTB games on his quest to be a GM
He's done that when he played in tournaments a few years ago.
You are awesome at analysis and diving into thought process. Great research!
8:15 Be7 is actually stockfish 15’s top move
Roasted
Infinity VS 2500:- There is a difference
14:43 petition for levy to make one whole episode with this character
YOU'VE GOT TO USE THAT COMMENTATING VOICE FROM THIS DAY FORWARD ANYTIME YOU GET TO COMMENTATE SOMETHING... LIKE POG CHAMPS OR ANYTHING...ITS AMAZING...Love you stuff Brother
I think 10-15 minute games with the top three stockfish moves constantly at the bottom would be nice. Then the commentators could explain why those crazy moves work
'According to my reserch 💅' ___ gotham chess
as a brit ur gravely northern english accent is starting to grow on me, you've improved so much, keep it up
Can we just appreciate how levy is so good at impressions
Brilliantly performed Levi. Comedy club chess from Gotham is the only stream I watch.
who's Levi?
@@upgradeamongus ok Levy
Levy, you are bloody hilarious! I loved this informative and educational video. I love it.
The “on the October the 2nd” was a pleasant touch. I liked that you vocalised the date of the game.
Levy, I‘m 40 years old 😅 Hello from Germany
I think Super GM is already a pretty accepted term. For the past 15 or 20 years, 2700 has been the line between GM and Super GM to most chess fans, I think.
Thank you for breaking it down so well for the intermediate aficionado . You just lifted my chess with great concepts!!!
Sports bar Levy is basically why I watch you dude ! And please bring in more Russian commentator with “poseeeeshin eez eeequal” etc I love him thank you xx
A monologue doesn’t break the fourth wall until the audience is explicitly acknowledged. Not all YT videos do that
Magnus is like darth vader of chess
and who is the Emperor?
@@cumexolaf3276 Garry Kasparov is the Emperor, Magnus is Darth Vader if he never had all that burn damage.
But Darth Vader is a villain
Me agnus is the Goku of chess
@@emanuellucinYes, the final boss is often associated as a villain in most games
This is truly top drawer content. Levy I applaud you and bow to your wisdom 😊
Hey man, I’m trying to improve my chess skills and I think I’ve improved a lot by playing, doing puzzles and watching your videos. I also try to play against bots for practice. I can beat all the intermediate bots fairly easily but as soon as I move to Antonio I can’t seem to do anything so win. I’ve only gotten close to beating him twice and he manages to destroy me in the end game. Any tips on how to get past this hurdle?
If Magnus didn’t exist we wouldn’t even know gotham
Nah we would because of the iconic "THE ROOOOOOK!"
Nice joke
@@Mpatlauthe rook meme began in 2022 fide rapid championship, he was very famous for GTE series
ik gotham bcz of batman not magnus...
Wrong! If not Levy, nobody would know Magnus.
My mate and I actually went to a pub and they had chess playing amongst other sports channels and we just drank beer and watched chess it was great 10/10 recommend
Nice cover of this game!
I only want to add that the infiltrating Qe3! also eliminates the Nxe5 threat, so it`s a three purpose move!
Such an instructive game! Levy does a great job with his insight on this!
can we appreciate
appreciate what
@@brotherb2743 appreciate
@@maatsko exactly
@@brotherb2743 Me
I love when, levy puts of the eval(though at every move I see it react) and let us spectate the game as true story, unknowing territory and unclear when the plot twist happens, just his guffy fun commentary to guide and wait..!😁
The conclusion when i see Levy's videos is that this guy is an amazing, entertaining and funny communicator!! Keep it up bro💪💪👏👏
The voice you did at 15:00, we need a full video with that voice, lol.
Levi should make a chess recap in full British accent 😂😂😂😂
Opening Idea for the next Magnus Carlson video
"The second highest title a chess player can achieve is world chess champion, while the highest title is being called Magnus carlson."
The more I learn about chess, when you meticulously memorize every move, it becomes a game of precision. However, when you can’t recall every detail, it transforms into a dynamic interplay of tactics and strategy
@14:25 Chess is actually pretty big here in norway. It is on NRK, our main channel for television during main hours. Like 15:00-20:00 when Magnus plays. Chess is entertaining =)
Whatever u say , but levy's thumbnails are the pure definition of Quality + Clickbait 😂😂
Levi and Magnus Carlsen has the same energy as iShowspeed and Ronaldo
Lmao
question about the standards is what should it represent? That's hard to measure. Is it being a certain percentile of participants? Is it being a certain numeric standard? Well that's hard because its well known that ELO drifts based upon new entrants. If the participation rate isn't through the roof then it does appear GM oversaturation is a thing and so it is on the ratings organizations to raise the standards.
15:03 I would unironically sit at a sports bar dinking an Allagash White pint 🍺 with full attention. No 🧢
Levi is really milking this Mango guy 🥭 🥛
This didn't age well😂
Wym?
Thanks Levy. I always enjoy your stuff. 😮
Thank you so much for a very interesting analysis of this game - enjoyed every minute of it.
@7:40 when you talk about repelling the queen side forces, its pretty obvious to me at least that magnus wants the queen on the queen side. its much harder to attack his king on the other side. its a tactic that beginning knight had been up to the entire time. he controls the g5 h4 squares ensuring the only route for queen is on queen side.
The difference is levy not getting any views 💀
14:43 Levy speaking British - Make this happen - make this a series - make this something BIG - we want this 😍😍😍
I need more sports-commentary Levy!!😂
magnus is like a final human bot at this point