would something like a wall-mounted ventilator work well for a studio? I'll be converting a garage into a studio and I don't know if I'll have enough room to build duct work
I would use some sort of natural wool insulation product, like Havenlock, over fiberglass. I definitely would not want to be breathing in any harmful particles and fiberglass insulation certainly degrades over time. Wool also has fantastic natural mold and fire resistance and sound absorption properties. Thank you for sharing this baffle box design!
Thanks for the new info! Yeah I wasn’t super excited about the fiberglass, but it does have a protective layer over it so you don’t breathe it in and it is designed for hvac. That said I still like the idea of wool.
@@soundproofyourstudio Wool is for sure going to be more expensive, but I think the long-term benefits outweigh the initial cost. I love what you're doing! Studio building is something I'm highly interested in, so I enjoy your channel very much.
Thanks a lot for the video. More comprehensive than others on here and nice to know that the design you’re showing was backed by Rod Gervais. 2 questions: 1. Are your baffle boxes only on the utility room side? That’s how it appeared in the footage you showed. 2. How did you attach your boxes to the wall? I am at the stage of “adding” ventilation as well and am trying to figure out how to integrate the boxes onto an already-sheet rocked wall. Thanks!
Thanks for watching! Yes, they are only on the utility room side. The boxes are attached to the studs in the utility room side. You could use screws to attach the box to the studs. If the wall is already sheet rocked you could attach them to the studs through the sheet rock using a stud finder. Let me know if you have any more questions.
This is such a great video. We're based in the UK so struggling to source some of the equipment, e.g. the Nailor industries stuff! Seeing how best to source similar! One question I did have... the partition wall where we're going to need to cut out the 1ftx1ft holes for the vents... the other side of that is going to be part of fairly noisy room. It's kind of our only option, so thinking we're going to have to massively soundproof that side of the wall and even the baffle box itself. Does that sound OK? Or is it still going to be risky putting our 1ftx1ft holes on that wall? Not that we have many options!!
Soundproof the baffle box with two layers of drywall and green glue and use acoustic clips to decouple the vents as they pass through your wall and you will be all good!
@@soundproofyourstudio that’s awesome. Thanks for your help! Would be awesome to have somewhere we can buy the equipment from you listed here in the UK! 🙌
Use "Great Stuff" polyurethane foam as your adhesive for the insulation in the box. It dries quickly, is a great adhesive, and provides additional sound proofing to your baffle box.
You could build an extra room within the utility shed or put it in the attic above the studio room as well. Even if you built a small tool shed to keep it enclosed that could work as well. Best of luck with the build!
Thanks, great video! I am considering buying a shed and soundproofing it to use as a Dr rehearsal space. So there is no surrounding utility room for a system like this. Can a dead vent system be incorporated part of the a-frame roof, as long as I leave some space in there while building out the ceiling?
Hey Steve! Yes, you certainly can put the baffle box in the attic and that is a great way to do it. My only advice with a shed build is to beef up the walls using drywall between the framed bays since they usually use really thin light weight siding. Also build it on a slab and then cut out the floor if it has one so it sits directly on the slab. Best of luck!
@@soundproofyourstudio that confirms my thoughts, thank you again. Follow up question if I may: what would you suggest for a low profile floor build, starting on slab as you suggested? I have the luxury of building this exactly as I want --- I'm buying the shed for this specific purpose.
@@DrEsDub If you are referring to the type of floor on top of the slab I would do a harwood floor first and if budget is an issue I would put down an engineered wood floor or a laminate floor.
@@soundproofyourstudio right, I was referring to the layers necessary for the floor. I've saw a shed build video (Jordan Smith) in which he put a layer of board insulation under his subfloor. I guess since I'd be sealing the '2nd room' directly to concrete, that wouldn't be necessary, correct?
Hi there; follow-up question that has arisen after my recent ERV / baffle box install. How do you manage the humidity in your room? I believe you have mentioned you are located in Nashville. I also live in the south, where it remains very humid outside. Upon firing up the ERV, I can tell I’m pulling in relatively humid air from outside. This won’t be sustainable long-term (mold, etc). I have the mini split AC unit as well (wall opposite the ERV intake / output grates). Do you just run your AC or heat, or do you also have to use a dehumidifier? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks again.
So the ERV should help with some of that humidity, but if it did get too humid in there then you can run the mini on dehumidify mode or get a dehumidifier. I have not had a summer yet with the ERV so I will let you know how it goes. For now it has been great in the winter months.
@@markmattingly1958 It has worked great. The only thing I would do differently is have the ERV intake vent over my mini split so the air is instantly cooled or heated when it enters the room. Other than that, no complaints.
Thanks for sharing this with us. However, If I don't have room for a Utility room, what should I do? Should I stick with my current window and deal with reflections? My project will transform my 14ft x 9 ft x 9 ft 2nd Floor Bedroom into a Music Studio. Only 1 Wall is workable from the outside, and that's the front wall of the building. It's also the wall that will turn out to be my Front Wall inside the Studio, and it has the window on it. And it's also an apartment, so, in the 1st floor there is another person. Having said that, I cannot put a MASSIVE 6+ Ft Baffle AND an ERV unit on that wall. It will look very bad and "exposed" :/ And, If I try to cover it with Drywall, It will kinda ruin the aesthetics of the building (I own the building, so I would prefer to do minor changes, not a 10+ ft change). I know it's a long explanation, but what do you recommend I should do? Thanks, Carlos E.
Hi Carlos! Thanks for watching. If the studio is in your apartment you could use dead vents instead of the ERV. Either way you will want to use a baffle of some kind, but you could also build the box in your studio if you didn't have space on the other side of your wall. Check these out - www.soundproofingcompany.com/soundproofing_101/how-can-i-ventilate-a-sealed-soundproof-room
I'm getting ready to build a studio into a 2 floor metal sided barn on the property of my new house. It has existing windows that I'll want to seal up, but I imagine they might also be the best way to route the ERV system in and out. What I'm Curious about is without a dedicated mechanical room or too much space for one, what if I attached the ERV up in the highest point of the ceiling then dry wall around that to isolate it from the rest of the building? It's probably a silly question but you can't attach these to the outside of your building can you?
You could put an ERV in the attic, but it needs regular access every 3 months for maintenance. Plus the intake and outtake vents should be on the side of your building not the roof. You could attach it to the outside of the building, but would want to build an enclosure around it to keep out the weather. I am not sure how cold or hot they can get, but I would look into that too. It's not really meant to be put in an outdoor environment. Thanks for watching!
Can you use vent fans to another room in the house ? It is a basement studio that is connected to the home HVAC system. Trying to figure out (if needed) additional fans for intake and exhaust to another room. I have a party wall to a mechanical room or a garage. No access to outside.
Yes you certainly can. In general I have heard that outside air is usually cleaner than inside air, but as long as the other room in your house has adequate ventilation it should work well.
Nice setup fosho! You must have ventilation through the room even when you aren't there, If you go away for a couple weeks and the weather is just right you will find mushrooms growing in your room! Ask me how i know?
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would something like a wall-mounted ventilator work well for a studio? I'll be converting a garage into a studio and I don't know if I'll have enough room to build duct work
It depends if you can isolate it properly using a baffle box.
I would use some sort of natural wool insulation product, like Havenlock, over fiberglass. I definitely would not want to be breathing in any harmful particles and fiberglass insulation certainly degrades over time. Wool also has fantastic natural mold and fire resistance and sound absorption properties. Thank you for sharing this baffle box design!
Thanks for the new info! Yeah I wasn’t super excited about the fiberglass, but it does have a protective layer over it so you don’t breathe it in and it is designed for hvac. That said I still like the idea of wool.
@@soundproofyourstudio Wool is for sure going to be more expensive, but I think the long-term benefits outweigh the initial cost. I love what you're doing! Studio building is something I'm highly interested in, so I enjoy your channel very much.
Thanks a lot for the video. More comprehensive than others on here and nice to know that the design you’re showing was backed by Rod Gervais. 2 questions:
1. Are your baffle boxes only on the utility room side? That’s how it appeared in the footage you showed.
2. How did you attach your boxes to the wall? I am at the stage of “adding” ventilation as well and am trying to figure out how to integrate the boxes onto an already-sheet rocked wall.
Thanks!
Thanks for watching! Yes, they are only on the utility room side. The boxes are attached to the studs in the utility room side. You could use screws to attach the box to the studs. If the wall is already sheet rocked you could attach them to the studs through the sheet rock using a stud finder. Let me know if you have any more questions.
Do you find that the ERV makes the mini split work harder if the temperature outside is on the extreme side of cold or hot?
No but I do find the humidity is worse in the summer.
I saw the JM Linacoustics RC duct liner that comes in a roll. Any disadvantage to using this instead of the board?
Not that I can see
This is such a great video. We're based in the UK so struggling to source some of the equipment, e.g. the Nailor industries stuff! Seeing how best to source similar!
One question I did have... the partition wall where we're going to need to cut out the 1ftx1ft holes for the vents... the other side of that is going to be part of fairly noisy room. It's kind of our only option, so thinking we're going to have to massively soundproof that side of the wall and even the baffle box itself. Does that sound OK? Or is it still going to be risky putting our 1ftx1ft holes on that wall? Not that we have many options!!
Soundproof the baffle box with two layers of drywall and green glue and use acoustic clips to decouple the vents as they pass through your wall and you will be all good!
@@soundproofyourstudio that’s awesome. Thanks for your help! Would be awesome to have somewhere we can buy the equipment from you listed here in the UK! 🙌
Use "Great Stuff" polyurethane foam as your adhesive for the insulation in the box. It dries quickly, is a great adhesive, and provides additional sound proofing to your baffle box.
Nice, that's a good idea
Great vid! do you have a model or link to the Nailor Industries grilles for the return and supply. Thanks!
I just read in the over of baffle box, missed it the first time i saw vid
Supply House has a similar grill that is much easier to source.
I have a 12 x 28 shed utility shed and I want to know can I do this but I don’t have the luxury of an extra room.
You could build an extra room within the utility shed or put it in the attic above the studio room as well. Even if you built a small tool shed to keep it enclosed that could work as well. Best of luck with the build!
I’ve seen folks make these with flex duct snaking inside. Is that correct??
That could work as well.
Thanks, great video! I am considering buying a shed and soundproofing it to use as a Dr rehearsal space. So there is no surrounding utility room for a system like this. Can a dead vent system be incorporated part of the a-frame roof, as long as I leave some space in there while building out the ceiling?
Hey Steve! Yes, you certainly can put the baffle box in the attic and that is a great way to do it. My only advice with a shed build is to beef up the walls using drywall between the framed bays since they usually use really thin light weight siding. Also build it on a slab and then cut out the floor if it has one so it sits directly on the slab. Best of luck!
@@soundproofyourstudio that confirms my thoughts, thank you again. Follow up question if I may: what would you suggest for a low profile floor build, starting on slab as you suggested? I have the luxury of building this exactly as I want --- I'm buying the shed for this specific purpose.
@@DrEsDub If you are referring to the type of floor on top of the slab I would do a harwood floor first and if budget is an issue I would put down an engineered wood floor or a laminate floor.
@@soundproofyourstudio right, I was referring to the layers necessary for the floor. I've saw a shed build video (Jordan Smith) in which he put a layer of board insulation under his subfloor. I guess since I'd be sealing the '2nd room' directly to concrete, that wouldn't be necessary, correct?
Hi there; follow-up question that has arisen after my recent ERV / baffle box install. How do you manage the humidity in your room? I believe you have mentioned you are located in Nashville. I also live in the south, where it remains very humid outside. Upon firing up the ERV, I can tell I’m pulling in relatively humid air from outside. This won’t be sustainable long-term (mold, etc). I have the mini split AC unit as well (wall opposite the ERV intake / output grates). Do you just run your AC or heat, or do you also have to use a dehumidifier? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks again.
So the ERV should help with some of that humidity, but if it did get too humid in there then you can run the mini on dehumidify mode or get a dehumidifier. I have not had a summer yet with the ERV so I will let you know how it goes. For now it has been great in the winter months.
Great, thanks man. Looks like my mini has a “dry” setting, so will try that out.
@@soundproofyourstudio such GREAT info - thanks for all of this! Question: now that you've had a summer with the ERV, how's it worked out?
@@markmattingly1958 It has worked great. The only thing I would do differently is have the ERV intake vent over my mini split so the air is instantly cooled or heated when it enters the room. Other than that, no complaints.
Thanks for sharing this with us. However, If I don't have room for a Utility room, what should I do? Should I stick with my current window and deal with reflections?
My project will transform my 14ft x 9 ft x 9 ft 2nd Floor Bedroom into a Music Studio. Only 1 Wall is workable from the outside, and that's the front wall of the building. It's also the wall that will turn out to be my Front Wall inside the Studio, and it has the window on it. And it's also an apartment, so, in the 1st floor there is another person. Having said that, I cannot put a MASSIVE 6+ Ft Baffle AND an ERV unit on that wall. It will look very bad and "exposed" :/ And, If I try to cover it with Drywall, It will kinda ruin the aesthetics of the building (I own the building, so I would prefer to do minor changes, not a 10+ ft change).
I know it's a long explanation, but what do you recommend I should do?
Thanks,
Carlos E.
Hi Carlos! Thanks for watching. If the studio is in your apartment you could use dead vents instead of the ERV. Either way you will want to use a baffle of some kind, but you could also build the box in your studio if you didn't have space on the other side of your wall. Check these out - www.soundproofingcompany.com/soundproofing_101/how-can-i-ventilate-a-sealed-soundproof-room
I'm getting ready to build a studio into a 2 floor metal sided barn on the property of my new house. It has existing windows that I'll want to seal up, but I imagine they might also be the best way to route the ERV system in and out. What I'm Curious about is without a dedicated mechanical room or too much space for one, what if I attached the ERV up in the highest point of the ceiling then dry wall around that to isolate it from the rest of the building? It's probably a silly question but you can't attach these to the outside of your building can you?
You could put an ERV in the attic, but it needs regular access every 3 months for maintenance. Plus the intake and outtake vents should be on the side of your building not the roof. You could attach it to the outside of the building, but would want to build an enclosure around it to keep out the weather. I am not sure how cold or hot they can get, but I would look into that too. It's not really meant to be put in an outdoor environment. Thanks for watching!
How are the plywood baffles secured to inside of box? Glue and Wooden and cleats? or screws? Thanks
Screws work best.
@@soundproofyourstudio Can you please share a higher res file of the box blue prints? Such great info you’ve made available. Thank you!
Hey Jon, those files are available in the course. It is a great resource for really building your studio correctly the first time.
what are the total cost of everything ?
Can you use vent fans to another room in the house ? It is a basement studio that is connected to the home HVAC system. Trying to figure out (if needed) additional fans for intake and exhaust to another room. I have a party wall to a mechanical room or a garage. No access to outside.
Yes you certainly can. In general I have heard that outside air is usually cleaner than inside air, but as long as the other room in your house has adequate ventilation it should work well.
wew finally
so there wasnt any difference in sound coming in and out of the studio?
not at all and I swear it is actually better now! Thanks for watching.
@@soundproofyourstudio Wow... so no sound leakage via the ventilation?
@@theaccent13 no, it is really impressive.
That Fantech is discontinued since Nov. 2022
All good you can get a similar model
In India I don't get this system so I'll build my studio in NYC .
Right on
This is stupid , sorry bro , use a muffler 20 min install done ! ( great video ) .
Ouch...thanks for watching.
Nice setup fosho! You must have ventilation through the room even when you aren't there, If you go away for a couple weeks and the weather is just right you will find mushrooms growing in your room! Ask me how i know?
No I haven’t had an issue with that. I do run a dehumidifier in the summer.