3:10 - You can look up videos that talk about this. Dirtbikes are constant mesh sequential transmissions. This means as long as you unload the transmission, you can shift up or down without the clutch, and not damage anything (of course, as long as you following the right procedure). Clutchless shifting is easier at higher RPM. Simply let off the throttle for a split second while shifting up and then get back on the throttle and your good. Shifting down is a little different, and not using the clutch is almost more likely to damage something than shifting up since the bike is typically at lower RPM and the throttle is closed. That's why shifting down without clutch can typically feel rough.
When you're up shifting you back off to throttle a bit to lower the revs. When you're down shifting you blip the throttle to lift the revs. When you're "down shifting" if you blip the throttle you'll sync just right with the higher revs needed to select that next gear. That's why you hear cars and motorbikes doing that Vrrrmm sound as they change down the gears when slowing. For a few years now people have been using it to show off. Many years ago I used it because the clutch was bad and it wouldn't change gear so I had to match the engine speed to the gearbox in order to change gear. I used to do this on the way up and on the way down until I had enough money to get the clutch fixed.
@@kevinward9562 On any loose surface, AKA when dirt biking, go ahead. It might be slightly harder on the clutch but your wheel has enough slip to lessen that impact. It's a heck of a lot of fun doing WOT, clutch shifts when doing dirt drag races or just fooling around on fields. I would never do this on a street bike though, because then the clutch has to take all the abuse and while it will speed the wheel up before locking completely it will also slow the motor down, and during this period it's just burning up the clutch
Man I bought a 125 2 stroke a couple weeks back, this was my first weekend I finally got to ride it. I had so much fun, I’m amazed by the speed but those gears go insanely fast. I’m used to my Harley but this dirt bike is a whole new animal. Can’t get over how much fun it was. Always wanted one as a kid, parents never would go for it. I truly believe had I of had a dirt bike I wouldn’t have taken the path I did. My kids have toys and I will make damn sure they always do. Appreciate the videos they are helping me a ton.
That’s awesome, yeah 125cc’s are vicious for their size, probably the most vicious out of all the bikes. They are squeezing every last bit of that engine. Have fun.
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now lol my harley has a ton of engine work. But the 125 is alot of fun and more torquey for sure. I also have a 22 yz450 thats a fun bike too. Just had the rm top and bottom rebuilt itching to see how she feels now. I love the 450 but i think i like riding the 125 more, the 450 just has all the bells and whistles.
Here is a path my buddy took as a kid because of dirt bikes. He was 8 years old around 1968, and he could not keep up with some of the older kids who had new mini bikes on his bicycle, and his Mother would not buy him one, (Too dangerous). But he put one together out of parts, with Flintstone brakes and a throttle string wrapped around his thumb. He takes it for a ride around the yard, his Mother sees him and morally says to herself, "I can't take it from him. He made it!". Today he worked his way through die making and now built a 60,000sq/ft building in Michigan, making all the gas tank and fenders for Indian Motorcycles, (and other customers). Be careful on that dirt bike. We learned how to ride them as kids,---back when we bounced off the ground a lot better. But I have another at 59 years old. I just don't plan on crashing. :)
Proper clutch use until you get so tired you can hardly hold on because you're out of shape and death gripping the bars...then I just start banging gears with no clutch. But I'm fat and slow so don't listen to me.
Bingo what this guy said^^^use clutch until arm pump is so bad you can’t even pull in the clutch lever, than just start banging gears. Transmission should be fine for your 3 lap motos.
Use the clutch going from a standstill. You don't need to use the clutch going either up or down when in motion. You DO however need to let off the gas. You don't want a bunch of power going through your transmission when banging through the gears. As long as you're off power, you're free to shift as much as you want. On a four stroke, you can also use the rev limiter as a way of cutting the power for an upshift. When you reach the rev limit the ECU will cut fuel to the engine momentarily, then re-apply and cut as you reach it again which is what is causing the bouncing-off-the-rev-limiter sound. If you sync it well you can actually shift up just as the ECU cuts the fuel. You'll basically have a single engine revolution off power, you can also keep the throttle pinned, and the shift is about as quick as it can possibly be. Don't try this if you're not an experienced rider though!
Yeah i shift without using clutch all the time, clutchless shifting, I usually do it while drag racing my friends and I win and they get so mad and confused it's funny
When you're up shifting you back off to throttle a bit to lower the revs. When you're down shifting you blip the throttle to lift the revs. When you're "down shifting" if you blip the throttle you'll sync just right with the higher revs needed to select that next gear. That's why you hear cars and motorbikes doing that Vrrrmm sound as they change down the gears when slowing. For a few years now people have been using it to show off. Many years ago I used it because the clutch was bad and it wouldn't change gear so I had to match the engine speed to the gearbox in order to change gear. I used to do this on the way up and on the way down until I had enough money to get the clutch fixed.
I am new to the motorcycle world and just bought my son (7) and myself (42) our first dirt bikes. His is a Yamaha ttr 50 and mine is a Kawasaki klx140l. I've been watching your videos on tips for beginners and they are helping me out greatly. Very comical and informative videos, keep them coming, Lol! Sincerely, NEW subscriber
Tim, Thank you for being supportive and taking the time to let us know how you enjoy our work. It’s all for the love of the sport and safety of the riders. Ride on my friend !
Raced MX for 6 years, the last year as a pro. Never used the clutch except when needed; starting or to keep from stalling. Never had a problem with any gearboxes. Just my 2 cents.
I just raced the local pro circuit. Mainly Washougal MX, PIR, Fox Hollow, Mt. View Cycle Park, MacMotocross, etc. I did win a six race series prior to turning pro.
All of your videos have helped me get top 3 or better in my races. Your great. I’d like to understand the bike more like how it reacts to certain things, how it dies, how it works and a ton of other stuff like that.
My little brothers have just gotten given a dirt bike and these videos are helping me so much to learn as a beginner. I love the editing style, and the one on one tutorials. Thank you!
Something I do on starts in second gear is I put a little up pressure on the shift lever when under full throttle, the moment the motor hits the rev limiter it will click into third. It's as smooth as butter and virtually makes the shift time zero milliseconds. It works great.
I think of using a clutch to shift up like jumping between jump ropes swinging at different speeds. It's possible to jump straight from the slower rope to the faster rope, but it's safer and easier to jump out of the first rope, adjust your timing, then jump into the second one. Pulling the clutch is like jumping out, releasing it is jumping back in.
Logan Squires actually you do and it is quite useful on a dirtbike, really simple, it is not a necessary skill for a beginner, good for slow riding over rocks etc, I learnt this at about 8 just doing it like 2 times, real simple, you should try it! It’ll come in handy someday
I use no clutch going up thru the gears, and use clutch goin down. When going down thru the gears, i pull the clutch, drop gear, release clutch, pull clutch, drop gear, release. Goin up gear i accelerate, quick release of the throttle, change gear and start to accelerate again, and i continue this process thru all 6 gears. In my opinion, no clutch up, and use clutch down is the best way to do it, less stress on the transmission, and i have never had transmission issues ever. 2 stroke and 4 stroke
Damn bro are you sure...just getting my bike done n rebuilt yz 80 but it would seem to make more sense clutch while your rpms are high and continue to get high and not vis versa
@@codys9601 just saying what i do. Ive never had an issue with bike transmission at all. Never have i stressed my transmission. I found it to be the fastest, and must smoothest way to do it. Thats how i was taught by 5 different people, 3 of which raced motorcross, and 2 are full time mechanics, And say its most effective way to do it. And never had transmission problem. So im saying from personal experience
@@codys9601 ive tried many different techniques, some work good. Even tried the one in this video, and too be honest, the one taught in this video has put the most stress on my bike. I'll stick by my technique, and it works best.
@@oacu8498 too much engine braking. Especially when i want speed coming thru the corner. Besides smoother on the transmission. And makes me feel better.
Personally, I don't use the clutch when shifting. It can be beneficial to the motor and create less wear on parts, if you do it right. Basically, all you do is when your wanting to shift, put pressure on the shift lever slighty before your desired rpm. When you reach your desired rpm, let off the gas while keeping pressure on the shifter and she'll click in almost by herself. If you do it right you won't need to let off fully, maybe a half throttle to quarter throttle lift from wide open. To do it while not letting off the throttle fully it all depends on how fast you snap the throttle off. All your doing is taking the tension and pressure off of the mainshaft in the transmission, allowing the gears too mesh easier. This is most definitely better than using the clutch while shifting, for 2 reasons: A) its a much faster shift than pulling the clutch in, and B) Its better than powershifting (pulling in clutch and shifting with no lift of the throttle), its just as quick if not faster of a shift if your good at it than powershifting, but you don't wear your clutch out as quick AND you don't rev the piss out of the bike for that split second.
You are putting stress on the shift forks by preloading the shift lever with out shifting. Just wait until you let off the gas a tad. If you are not chewing gum, you should be able to time it well. :)
Thanks for adding tje B movies in its so much less pressure having to actually listen witjout the humor of the griswalds...gotta love chevy chase...john kockentose....
I was taught by my dad that it's not necessary to use the clutch to shift. I let off the throttle most of the time shifting up though and downshifting when I need more torque on a steep trail I stay on the throttle and just nock it down a gear. That's just how I was taught to shift
For racing a 2-stroke, you actually use the clutch a lot, (starts of course, coming out of corners, and landing from jumps), but not a lot with shifting. :)
Got a cool shifting story I'd like to share as an intermediate rider, got a kx250f from a buddy and he said to replace the clutch plates, wanted to ride so bad I just risked it. And didnt shift with the clutch between 1st and 3rd, after going up and down gears for about 15 mins I tested the clutch and I freed it up! Havent replaced the plates yet either, never been more proud of myself being such a green rider at the time! 🤙
Maybe he said to replace the clutch plates because he burned them and they became grabby? Maybe they were slipping when you were on the hard throttle and a high gear? This is when the revs start to rise faster than the bike is moving and you can tell the engine isn't quite making 100% connection to the real wheel.
Done an inadvertent front flip once when I missed a shift from 2nd to 3rd and was full neutral on the face of a step down. Practice shifting, it makes you safe!
Interestingly, on the street it's just the opposite: you don't need a clutch at all to shift up and still be fast and smooth but it really helps to be smooth when you use it shifting down.
It’s safer to use the clutch to downshift on a street bike to prevent engine braking from sliding the rear wheel (especially on wet pavement), by using the clutch you can “ease” into the lower gear to avoid breaking traction.
I've got to nationals having never damaged a gearbox and I've never clutched, I PowerShot up and down the box, gearboxes are so much tougher than everyone realises
While I'm sure I'm not the only one who asked, thanks for addressing the question I posted in your request for topics. Excellent info and entertaining as always. Something new for me to practice too (foot position). I'm guilty of not using proper foot position all the time. Thanks
Quite interesting, I've never used the clutch to change gear at all. Raced for 12 years up through the cc's too. Ima try the changing up with the clutch. Normally I just let off minimally change up and back on the power all very quickly. Cool vid ! 🤟
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now I have 3 bikes, chinese Honda 50 with a swapped 110 chinese engine. Been doing that since it was new, have a really good amount of hours with it. I have a CR125 and an XR600R and I've been doing it with those for about 3 years with the CR and 2 years with the XR. All 3 bikes still shift like new and are fine
been riding for quite a while now, corner speed is great good on the gas, but always struggling on changing gears, never used clutch before, ill try it this time and report back when i did it
250 2 stroke is braaa,braaa,Braap!!! And the Cobra 50 is like riding a CR500 in 3rd gear around a track. Hail all the kids who keep that little thing pinned. It's a monster of a mini... 3rd gear pin forever✊
Here is a joke for you. "When I was 18 years old, I thought my Dad was the dumbest person on Earth. Now today, you would be surprised how much the old man learned in 5 years."
the clutch is there for stopping and starting and controlling power delivery more accurate... the gearboxes are not upgraded in race bikes in a way that makes them stronger. racers train 3 brakes front rear and engine... to fast you need the egnine. They have whats called a constant mesh gearbox and using the clutch can actually cause unnecessary wear as apposed to what most people think.
It can actually be done without any damage if you match the revs. (That goes for both bikes and cars) (Also the gears are always in mesh in a car but you can always get to neutral too, so it’s actually almost easier, sequential gearbox is different, but isn’t the reason you can do this)
Subbed just for the bike imitations😂 I’m brand new to this. I’ve been on a bike before but I never left 1st gear it also was a pretty brief ride. Can’t wait to get my own.
I just barely tapped the clutch but stay in the gas so when you get in gear it's is Revan better to stay in the gas slip the clutch then no clutch and let off the gas holeshot King tip number one
I’m 16 ridding a 450 and I have two gear levers one is best so that it’s sits just on top of my foot and I can move my foot forward to shift down and shifts extremely quick
This is how I learned to corner when I was a kid and it has become the worst habit I still cant break. I almost cant do corners without locking up the the rear end. I have learned to make it work but Id say if your just starting out take your time and learn proper cornering technique. Definitely more beneficial in the long run
Sudden engine rpm changes will add stress to many drivetrain components so if your main concern is longevity of the bike and you don't need to ride rabid for a purse perhaps take it easy and concentrate on other aspects of improvement in the meantime. I'm a noob without an off-road bike so I'm allowed to say whatever I want :) hope this helps.
There are videos that talk more in depth about clutchless shifting. Short answer if your gearbox speed and engine speed match you can pull it out of gear or put it in gear, no damage or extra wear. but when the speeds dont match then there will be wear.
You dont need the clutch after upshifting into first, as long as you keep it in the higher rpms and let off the gas the transmission will free up enough to shift without grinding any gears, ive been shifting without the clutch since my days on a 65, ive owned many bikes and have never ever blown a transmission using this method
@@PenaxxeMc ok. I've had it explained to me and heard from many reliable sources that it is fine. People that actually know what they are talking about. I engine brake without a second thought and my pistons always look fine.
Two strokes are easier to race and shift in my opinion. On an upgraded transmission you can be always on the throttle pull in the clutch with the throttle wide and shift, but you have to be quick. My buddy races a kx125 and that’s how he shifts
It is actually faster with no clutch at all, and just let off the throttle a tad for the shift, (if you don't fall off the power curve in the higher gear). Wanna bet? Do both on a moist dirt road, and see which method has a longer coasting patch between gears. Pick the method with the shorter coasting patches. I think it is funny/sad that MXA of today said your method was best, (we called speed shifting), but it was with MXA of the mid eighties that lived in reality with 4 methods to test, and speed shifting was next to last for starts. The only shifting that is hard on the tranny was the fastest, full throttle, no clutch, jam the next gear. So I passed on that method. :)
HI looking for some advice , i been around dirt bikes as a kid , and then had some time away from them , I'm 39 now and getting back into the sport , so I went ahead and bought a 02 rm 125 , my question is , do you guys feel this is the right bike to start off with , and if not , what should i be looking into , I'm just looking to be a all around rider , my goal is to eventually race in the 40 age class thanks
3:10 - You can look up videos that talk about this. Dirtbikes are constant mesh sequential transmissions. This means as long as you unload the transmission, you can shift up or down without the clutch, and not damage anything (of course, as long as you following the right procedure). Clutchless shifting is easier at higher RPM. Simply let off the throttle for a split second while shifting up and then get back on the throttle and your good. Shifting down is a little different, and not using the clutch is almost more likely to damage something than shifting up since the bike is typically at lower RPM and the throttle is closed. That's why shifting down without clutch can typically feel rough.
Underrated comment. Thanks.
When you're up shifting you back off to throttle a bit to lower the revs. When you're down shifting you blip the throttle to lift the revs.
When you're "down shifting" if you blip the throttle you'll sync just right with the higher revs needed to select that next gear.
That's why you hear cars and motorbikes doing that Vrrrmm sound as they change down the gears when slowing.
For a few years now people have been using it to show off.
Many years ago I used it because the clutch was bad and it wouldn't change gear so I had to match the engine speed to the gearbox in order to change gear. I used to do this on the way up and on the way down until I had enough money to get the clutch fixed.
So does that mean when I gear up, I can keep on revs,clutch n change?
@@kevinward9562 On any loose surface, AKA when dirt biking, go ahead. It might be slightly harder on the clutch but your wheel has enough slip to lessen that impact. It's a heck of a lot of fun doing WOT, clutch shifts when doing dirt drag races or just fooling around on fields. I would never do this on a street bike though, because then the clutch has to take all the abuse and while it will speed the wheel up before locking completely it will also slow the motor down, and during this period it's just burning up the clutch
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now Yes but this only applies when using the clutch. You can't blip the throttle when downshifting without the clutch lmao
Man I bought a 125 2 stroke a couple weeks back, this was my first weekend I finally got to ride it. I had so much fun, I’m amazed by the speed but those gears go insanely fast. I’m used to my Harley but this dirt bike is a whole new animal. Can’t get over how much fun it was. Always wanted one as a kid, parents never would go for it. I truly believe had I of had a dirt bike I wouldn’t have taken the path I did. My kids have toys and I will make damn sure they always do. Appreciate the videos they are helping me a ton.
That’s awesome, yeah 125cc’s are vicious for their size, probably the most vicious out of all the bikes. They are squeezing every last bit of that engine. Have fun.
I'm guessing that 125cc is faster than the 10x bigger engine Harley? :-))
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now lol my harley has a ton of engine work. But the 125 is alot of fun and more torquey for sure. I also have a 22 yz450 thats a fun bike too. Just had the rm top and bottom rebuilt itching to see how she feels now. I love the 450 but i think i like riding the 125 more, the 450 just has all the bells and whistles.
Here is a path my buddy took as a kid because of dirt bikes. He was 8 years old around 1968, and he could not keep up with some of the older kids who had new mini bikes on his bicycle, and his Mother would not buy him one, (Too dangerous). But he put one together out of parts, with Flintstone brakes and a throttle string wrapped around his thumb. He takes it for a ride around the yard, his Mother sees him and morally says to herself, "I can't take it from him. He made it!".
Today he worked his way through die making and now built a 60,000sq/ft building in Michigan, making all the gas tank and fenders for Indian Motorcycles, (and other customers). Be careful on that dirt bike. We learned how to ride them as kids,---back when we bounced off the ground a lot better. But I have another at 59 years old. I just don't plan on crashing. :)
a 2 stroke dose not slow you down i know this bc my ktm was on a tree
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It happens to be
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xwit pro got pics ?
Proper clutch use until you get so tired you can hardly hold on because you're out of shape and death gripping the bars...then I just start banging gears with no clutch. But I'm fat and slow so don't listen to me.
Bingo what this guy said^^^use clutch until arm pump is so bad you can’t even pull in the clutch lever, than just start banging gears. Transmission should be fine for your 3 lap motos.
doug148877 what?
what about a GNCC race
doug148877 😆😆😆😆🤣🤣😭😭
@@brandongravens4826 get a rekluse clutch if you want or work on grip strength and practice riding 2hrs all out
Use the clutch going from a standstill. You don't need to use the clutch going either up or down when in motion. You DO however need to let off the gas. You don't want a bunch of power going through your transmission when banging through the gears. As long as you're off power, you're free to shift as much as you want. On a four stroke, you can also use the rev limiter as a way of cutting the power for an upshift. When you reach the rev limit the ECU will cut fuel to the engine momentarily, then re-apply and cut as you reach it again which is what is causing the bouncing-off-the-rev-limiter sound. If you sync it well you can actually shift up just as the ECU cuts the fuel. You'll basically have a single engine revolution off power, you can also keep the throttle pinned, and the shift is about as quick as it can possibly be. Don't try this if you're not an experienced rider though!
Yeah i shift without using clutch all the time, clutchless shifting, I usually do it while drag racing my friends and I win and they get so mad and confused it's funny
When you're up shifting you back off to throttle a bit to lower the revs. When you're down shifting you blip the throttle to lift the revs.
When you're "down shifting" if you blip the throttle you'll sync just right with the higher revs needed to select that next gear.
That's why you hear cars and motorbikes doing that Vrrrmm sound as they change down the gears when slowing.
For a few years now people have been using it to show off.
Many years ago I used it because the clutch was bad and it wouldn't change gear so I had to match the engine speed to the gearbox in order to change gear. I used to do this on the way up and on the way down until I had enough money to get the clutch fixed.
Won't it damage it ? On a pit bike
You know you aren’t at enough RPMs when you’re 2 stroke starts sounding like a four stroke lmao
hahhahahaha true xDDDD
and you know you have too many RPMs when your 4 stroke starts sounding like a 2 stroke
@@ay-leck1369 that’s happened to you!? Also it’s called over revving
@@guitarizlife5 No, it has not happened to me. And I know what it is called I was just matching your comment with the vice versa.
@@ay-leck1369 LOL I know 😂 but to anybody who it has happened to... I’m sorry to the bike.
I am new to the motorcycle world and just bought my son (7) and myself (42) our first dirt bikes. His is a Yamaha ttr 50 and mine is a Kawasaki klx140l. I've been watching your videos on tips for beginners and they are helping me out greatly. Very comical and informative videos, keep them coming, Lol! Sincerely, NEW subscriber
Tim,
Thank you for being supportive and taking the time to let us know how you enjoy our work. It’s all for the love of the sport and safety of the riders. Ride on my friend !
A 140l? I seen BBR make those things haul ass. But ya prob a little small for u no? I like it tho! Your son can ride it in a few years.
Raced MX for 6 years, the last year as a pro. Never used the clutch except when needed; starting or to keep from stalling. Never had a problem with any gearboxes. Just my 2 cents.
Same
What Pro series did you race?
I just raced the local pro circuit. Mainly Washougal MX, PIR, Fox Hollow, Mt. View Cycle Park, MacMotocross, etc. I did win a six race series prior to turning pro.
@@drev1 Mostly on my dime. Got some free stuff and discounted parts from a local dealer.
You aint shit boi
43 years and I still enjoy it,hear in Florida I have heard some story's about enduro guys in there late 60s and still in great shape god bless em.
When you shift wrong the shift dogs start barking at you.
I feel like that's the least of my worries when shifting wrong
@@Valrax right
SD5 😂
IKR that always happens to me idk why
All of your videos have helped me get top 3 or better in my races. Your great. I’d like to understand the bike more like how it reacts to certain things, how it dies, how it works and a ton of other stuff like that.
Congrats on coming out the closet recently at the last race on the podium
My little brothers have just gotten given a dirt bike and these videos are helping me so much to learn as a beginner. I love the editing style, and the one on one tutorials. Thank you!
Something I do on starts in second gear is I put a little up pressure on the shift lever when under full throttle, the moment the motor hits the rev limiter it will click into third. It's as smooth as butter and virtually makes the shift time zero milliseconds. It works great.
I think of using a clutch to shift up like jumping between jump ropes swinging at different speeds.
It's possible to jump straight from the slower rope to the faster rope, but it's safer and easier to jump out of the first rope, adjust your timing, then jump into the second one.
Pulling the clutch is like jumping out, releasing it is jumping back in.
This video was not only very informative but hilarious.
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching!
I didn't find it that funny, I found the "jokes" to be way too drawn out and made me feel uncomfortable. It's getting in the way of actual information
@@coastaku1954 okay…
@@coastaku1954 shut up
@@folo_x3434 He needs to just get to the point, he's not funny at all
I love your series of instructional vids. Very straight forward. Also encouraging to new riders.
Yeah I totally agree. I have learned so much from this guy and this guy only. He's my go to for learning new things or if I am curious about something
Please make a video about how to shift while standing for beginners!
670lamborghini you don’t 😂
Logan squires u do if u know how to ride 😂
670lamborghini just practice it.
Logan Squires actually you do and it is quite useful on a dirtbike, really simple, it is not a necessary skill for a beginner, good for slow riding over rocks etc, I learnt this at about 8 just doing it like 2 times, real simple, you should try it! It’ll come in handy someday
Use your toe lol it's no different you're just standing up
Just bought my first 2 stroke and trying to learn everything I can. This is the first video that’s actually helped, thanks dude
I've been waiting for someone to explain the advanced techniques like this forever 👍😁
I gust got a new dirt bike and i watch you all the time and your helping me a lot thx.
I use no clutch going up thru the gears, and use clutch goin down. When going down thru the gears, i pull the clutch, drop gear, release clutch, pull clutch, drop gear, release. Goin up gear i accelerate, quick release of the throttle, change gear and start to accelerate again, and i continue this process thru all 6 gears.
In my opinion, no clutch up, and use clutch down is the best way to do it, less stress on the transmission, and i have never had transmission issues ever. 2 stroke and 4 stroke
Damn bro are you sure...just getting my bike done n rebuilt yz 80 but it would seem to make more sense clutch while your rpms are high and continue to get high and not vis versa
@@codys9601 just saying what i do. Ive never had an issue with bike transmission at all. Never have i stressed my transmission. I found it to be the fastest, and must smoothest way to do it. Thats how i was taught by 5 different people, 3 of which raced motorcross, and 2 are full time mechanics, And say its most effective way to do it. And never had transmission problem. So im saying from personal experience
@@codys9601 ive tried many different techniques, some work good. Even tried the one in this video, and too be honest, the one taught in this video has put the most stress on my bike. I'll stick by my technique, and it works best.
@@dds272 why cant u just pull the clutch, drop 2 gears, release clutch, then go? instead of pull, drop, release and pull, drop, release again?
@@oacu8498 too much engine braking. Especially when i want speed coming thru the corner. Besides smoother on the transmission. And makes me feel better.
Shifting in the air was difficult at first but a awesome tip definitely knocked some time off my laps 🤘
What was the tip you
No it wasnt
@@vital4290 ...
@@vital4290 bro knows
@@MikezDoesThat i said dat 2 years ago bro
i love this dude! he's funny as hell and chill.
Yes!!! Finally !!! I wish y'all were in NC I would love to ride with y'all !!
Great to see you on a 2t again
How to shift in 2 easy steps
Step 1: go full throttle
Step 2:drop the clutch and hold on
Cole Draper what does that do
The bikes full power will come very suddenly and probably throw you off and do a wheelie maybe loop out deoends on the bike
My first day on a bike had a similar story. Had to watch videos to keep me on that seat lmao!
You win a gold star
@@futuristicwealthh you'll do a wheelie
I swear I love your vids guys entertainment and great information at its best this is the best mx channel on youtube hands down
Personally, I don't use the clutch when shifting. It can be beneficial to the motor and create less wear on parts, if you do it right. Basically, all you do is when your wanting to shift, put pressure on the shift lever slighty before your desired rpm. When you reach your desired rpm, let off the gas while keeping pressure on the shifter and she'll click in almost by herself. If you do it right you won't need to let off fully, maybe a half throttle to quarter throttle lift from wide open. To do it while not letting off the throttle fully it all depends on how fast you snap the throttle off. All your doing is taking the tension and pressure off of the mainshaft in the transmission, allowing the gears too mesh easier. This is most definitely better than using the clutch while shifting, for 2 reasons: A) its a much faster shift than pulling the clutch in, and B) Its better than powershifting (pulling in clutch and shifting with no lift of the throttle), its just as quick if not faster of a shift if your good at it than powershifting, but you don't wear your clutch out as quick AND you don't rev the piss out of the bike for that split second.
You are putting stress on the shift forks by preloading the shift lever with out shifting. Just wait until you let off the gas a tad. If you are not chewing gum, you should be able to time it well. :)
Im a lvl 50 pro at shifting,
Now im a lvl 99 boss!
thats how the mafia works..
Dominick Mensche dead meme don’t even speak of it
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I was taught by my dad that it's not necessary to use the clutch to shift. I let off the throttle most of the time shifting up though and downshifting when I need more torque on a steep trail I stay on the throttle and just nock it down a gear. That's just how I was taught to shift
Same. I use the clutch for starting and stopping and thats about it.
I'm no pro but I can get around just fine.
For racing a 2-stroke, you actually use the clutch a lot, (starts of course, coming out of corners, and landing from jumps), but not a lot with shifting. :)
Got a cool shifting story I'd like to share as an intermediate rider, got a kx250f from a buddy and he said to replace the clutch plates, wanted to ride so bad I just risked it. And didnt shift with the clutch between 1st and 3rd, after going up and down gears for about 15 mins I tested the clutch and I freed it up! Havent replaced the plates yet either, never been more proud of myself being such a green rider at the time! 🤙
Maybe he said to replace the clutch plates because he burned them and they became grabby?
Maybe they were slipping when you were on the hard throttle and a high gear? This is when the revs start to rise faster than the bike is moving and you can tell the engine isn't quite making 100% connection to the real wheel.
Yo! I thought I was tripping when I thought I was in neutral after shifting up from third. I didnt know false neutral was a real thing! Thanks!
Done an inadvertent front flip once when I missed a shift from 2nd to 3rd and was full neutral on the face of a step down. Practice shifting, it makes you safe!
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I just got my first bike with clutch and im loving it i was able to pull out without stalling first try
You’re always saving my life bro ! Thanks ✌🏻
Thanks for watching!
thanks man becuse of u i am not going to need another
transmission
Interestingly, on the street it's just the opposite: you don't need a clutch at all to shift up and still be fast and smooth but it really helps to be smooth when you use it shifting down.
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You don't need the clutch to shift up either, and on equal bikes, I will beat this guy on starts if he touche\s that clutch down the straight.
It's not the opposite on the street. There's absolutely no reason to use the clutch to upshift on the street or in the dirt.
It’s safer to use the clutch to downshift on a street bike to prevent engine braking from sliding the rear wheel (especially on wet pavement), by using the clutch you can “ease” into the lower gear to avoid breaking traction.
THIS HELPED ME A LOOOOOT, THANKS!!!!!!!
Awesome Video. I really enjoy your guys work and i take alot out of it and practice at the track. Thanks !!
Just bought a dirtbike with a clutch yesterday so I'm in the right place 💪
I love these videos!
Excite bike was a perfect example 👊✊️!!!!!!!!
6:53 bet you could get that Owen Wilson impression down too lol
2 years ago this video dropped.It still helped me to keep me in the seat 💺
I know how to shift I just enjoy your videos cause I miss my dirt bike lol
Bruh
Thank you again mate! Loving these vids, cheers 🤙🏼
I've got to nationals having never damaged a gearbox and I've never clutched, I PowerShot up and down the box, gearboxes are so much tougher than everyone realises
While I'm sure I'm not the only one who asked, thanks for addressing the question I posted in your request for topics. Excellent info and entertaining as always. Something new for me to practice too (foot position). I'm guilty of not using proper foot position all the time. Thanks
The Mathew voice undoubtedly convinced the like and sub.
I have always assumed that high level motocross riders did not use the clutch when upshifting. Now I know. Great video.
You only need a clutch for railing berms on a 2 stroke.
Thats right man
The editing is immaculate
Quite interesting, I've never used the clutch to change gear at all. Raced for 12 years up through the cc's too. Ima try the changing up with the clutch. Normally I just let off minimally change up and back on the power all very quickly. Cool vid ! 🤟
Did it affect the gearbox?
@@Google_Does_Evil_Now I have 3 bikes, chinese Honda 50 with a swapped 110 chinese engine. Been doing that since it was new, have a really good amount of hours with it. I have a CR125 and an XR600R and I've been doing it with those for about 3 years with the CR and 2 years with the XR. All 3 bikes still shift like new and are fine
been riding for quite a while now, corner speed is great good on the gas, but always struggling on changing gears, never used clutch before, ill try it this time and report back when i did it
good video , interesting about not using the clutch when shifting down because it speeds you up defiantly going to practice this
It doesn't speed you up. If that were the case,just pull your clutch in and pass everyone.
I think they are saying that you lose your engine braking when you pull the clutch.
I remember watching you when I had my 110 going into a 85 now I need me a 125😋keep up the great work
When is it recommended to engage the clutch entering a corner after using a bit of engine braking?
Never use ur clutch entering a corner u can use it on the exit tho
250 2 stroke is braaa,braaa,Braap!!! And the Cobra 50 is like riding a CR500 in 3rd gear around a track. Hail all the kids who keep that little thing pinned. It's a monster of a mini... 3rd gear pin forever✊
Thanks for this! My son rode his new bike twice and thought he knew everything.
Here is a joke for you. "When I was 18 years old, I thought my Dad was the dumbest person on Earth. Now today, you would be surprised how much the old man learned in 5 years."
Thank you mate! You're like a teacher for me. I have a new suzuki rm 65 2003. I csn shift a bit but these tips will help me!
Please make a video on when to shift gears when on the track
fundulu kasuta just listen to your bike you can feel it when it wants to go up a gear
@@crispytoster5879 that's what I have been doing thought there could be some more tips
I’m late on the party but I’m here!!! 😁
That shifting in the air thang ain't as easy as it looks. I'm just always surprised I'm in the air.
I love this channel you guys helped me soooo much
Awesome dude and edits:) i cant wait to get my first Enduro/Dirt bike :D 3:37 LOL
I love this guy
Omg love the edits lol
nice one, this vid helped me teach my 4yo to shift, while i'm enjoying a beer... thank you
Doesn't downshifting without a clutch damage the bike in any way though?
the clutch is there for stopping and starting and controlling power delivery more accurate... the gearboxes are not upgraded in race bikes in a way that makes them stronger.
racers train 3 brakes front rear and engine... to fast you need the egnine.
They have whats called a constant mesh gearbox and using the clutch can actually cause unnecessary wear as apposed to what most people think.
It can actually be done without any damage if you match the revs. (That goes for both bikes and cars)
(Also the gears are always in mesh in a car but you can always get to neutral too, so it’s actually almost easier, sequential gearbox is different, but isn’t the reason you can do this)
I'm pretty sure down shifting on a 2 stroke without the clutch and without revs is a good way to ruin your bike. If I'm wrong correct me please
Steve Jobs why would it matter whether it’s 2T or 4T? Those are just different ways of getting power into the gearbox. Answer is it doesn’t.
@@emilchandran546
Thought someone told me that if you basically use the engine to break that you just starve the piston of premix oil
Could be one of the coolest people on RUclips 😎
wouldn't downshifting without the clutch cause a hell of alot of strain on the gears and shifting forks?
MrHondanut100 not on a 2 stroke!
No its a mesh transmission. Dirt bikes are nothing like manual cars
@@buffalobmf as a manual car driver, this bothers me
@@wyldewest5613 yea you cant in a car its not the same.... youll fuck it up. Mesh transmission its ok on a dirt bike theyre made to slip
@@buffalobmf yeah I’m used to heel toeing and rev matching. This is all new to me.
This is the one Ive been waiting for
Wait so when going down a gear I don’t need to use the clutch?
That's what he said..
Im not gonna do that bc i dont wanna fuck up my bike
Sounds expensive...
Subbed just for the bike imitations😂 I’m brand new to this. I’ve been on a bike before but I never left 1st gear it also was a pretty brief ride. Can’t wait to get my own.
who else thought the glasses were goggles
I just barely tapped the clutch but stay in the gas so when you get in gear it's is Revan better to stay in the gas slip the clutch then no clutch and let off the gas holeshot King tip number one
I’m 16 ridding a 450 and I have two gear levers one is best so that it’s sits just on top of my foot and I can move my foot forward to shift down and shifts extremely quick
Omg at the start of this I was like, damn he sounds like Matthew McConaughey!! Love your content man. Much love from the UK!
Can you make a video on how to brake slide or squaring up a corner please great videos
This is how I learned to corner when I was a kid and it has become the worst habit I still cant break. I almost cant do corners without locking up the the rear end. I have learned to make it work but Id say if your just starting out take your time and learn proper cornering technique. Definitely more beneficial in the long run
Tip #3 Sounds - EPIC -
This thing has more pointless cutaways than family Guy
Yeah, but they're funny! lol
@@DannyCole there not
Danny Cole they’re annoying
I know I couldn't even finish this video.
We appreciate the love, we were just figuring out how to build videos but still giving away a lot of free to you hard earned to me information.
Cheely needs this
If you don’t use the clutch wen down shiftiest wouldn’t Break the transmission
No but it wouldn’t last long
Wangsta #3 😂😂 Dying great video brotha
So.. no clutch when downshifting doesn't hurt my motor? I'm a noob on a 125cc.. I'm allowed to ask dumb questions (At least I hope so) haha
Sudden engine rpm changes will add stress to many drivetrain components so if your main concern is longevity of the bike and you don't need to ride rabid for a purse perhaps take it easy and concentrate on other aspects of improvement in the meantime. I'm a noob without an off-road bike so I'm allowed to say whatever I want :) hope this helps.
@@TheSinkingGarage Thanks!
There are videos that talk more in depth about clutchless shifting.
Short answer if your gearbox speed and engine speed match you can pull it out of gear or put it in gear, no damage or extra wear. but when the speeds dont match then there will be wear.
love the out takes! very entertaining. and informative. Keep it up!
Hilarious and on point. You're funny af man, good work lol
You dont need the clutch after upshifting into first, as long as you keep it in the higher rpms and let off the gas the transmission will free up enough to shift without grinding any gears, ive been shifting without the clutch since my days on a 65, ive owned many bikes and have never ever blown a transmission using this method
What are your thoughts on engine braking with a 2 stroke?
It’s not nearly as effective as a 4 stroke. There is a little engine braking, but counting on it to help you stop won’t do much.
Also, unless you are engine braking down a mountain for 5 minutes strait it's not going to hurt the bike. It's a myth, so dont worry about it.
kdxkyle yeah it will hurt the bike
@@kdxkyle yes it will hurt The bike
@@PenaxxeMc ok. I've had it explained to me and heard from many reliable sources that it is fine. People that actually know what they are talking about. I engine brake without a second thought and my pistons always look fine.
This Show Is Excellent!
But be gentle, he's a great rider, not a great mechanical engineer.
So funny, good tips...
Two strokes are easier to race and shift in my opinion. On an upgraded transmission you can be always on the throttle pull in the clutch with the throttle wide and shift, but you have to be quick. My buddy races a kx125 and that’s how he shifts
It is actually faster with no clutch at all, and just let off the throttle a tad for the shift, (if you don't fall off the power curve in the higher gear). Wanna bet? Do both on a moist dirt road, and see which method has a longer coasting patch between gears. Pick the method with the shorter coasting patches. I think it is funny/sad that MXA of today said your method was best, (we called speed shifting), but it was with MXA of the mid eighties that lived in reality with 4 methods to test, and speed shifting was next to last for starts. The only shifting that is hard on the tranny was the fastest, full throttle, no clutch, jam the next gear. So I passed on that method. :)
You don't quite understand your transmission.
Geez I love this channel
I cant even jump and u tell me to jump and shift in the air :v
You jump by hitting the gas, there boom
Just hit the gas you say... Are you trying to be funny?
Lol
Jaxon Perry Nar 4th pinned
I be in 2nd
so i’ve realized why i shift into false neutral a lot thanks for this i’m new to riding so this helped a lot
Hahaha A+ for the sound effects😂 solids tips as well thanks
HI looking for some advice , i been around dirt bikes as a kid , and then had some time away from them , I'm 39 now and getting back into the sport , so I went ahead and bought a 02 rm 125 , my question is , do you guys feel this is the right bike to start off with , and if not , what should i be looking into , I'm just looking to be a all around rider , my goal is to eventually race in the 40 age class thanks
Title: how to shift dirt bike
Video: try and shift mid air 😂
Helpful advice to make my transmission last a little longer! Thanks