But the Halo games that came after did not have a unique title to reference and "combat evolved" works on two levels. One being the Halo reference and the other is a poke at DICE's game design.
Omg you too have realized the gas grenade resupply cancer. I've gotten so many pickaxe kills by hot boxing the objective on Rush and sprinting around in the gas
Yes, but with gas grenades you get TWO. You can throw enough to cover an entire objective area. If you have a whole squad doing it it's absolutely cancerous
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED! THANK GOD! Iplay on ps4 and compared to the movement in BF4, the movement is heavily restricted as if everything moved like the player is underwater! Its so bad!
I completely agree and I thought I was one of the only ones not completely blinded by the gorgeous visuals. This game has potential though, but it's not the 'Battlefield' I know and have come to love.
feels fine to me and movement is one of the first things I notice in games, vaulting can still be improved and you still get stuck on shit but not any more than bf4 or any other battlefield. BF 4 felt really janky and weird, the gun animations seemed to lag behind the actual movements, peoples heads bob around like fucking squirrels in 3rd person and everyone looks like they're on constant fast forward. And I came from the Quake, half-life 1, unreal tournament etc era. Animations in BF4 just don't look right at all.
true, but Ravic and mus1ck should for the sake of BF series, all it's players, God and baby Jesus have a direct stream of their opinions to DICE headquarters..
Like us, Dice watches his video's and read his comments. That's why he gets invited to some of the press events and gets early Alpha/Beta access. Which he then uses the content to upload his view and bugs. "Glitch Night" video's and bug fixes, that's Ravic way of expressing his opinion. Which in turn allows us to go and post on the BattleLog forums and can link others to his video's. Tbh I much prefer and enjoy his direct approach compared to other YT's yacking on and on about what they think, with the game trailer looping in the background and 20 million ad's with no real content because of "some" nda they signed. *I'm looking at you JF, Level, etc... same opinion and content regurgitated over and over again.
the knife used to go straight through people in that game lol then theyd turn around and knife you. There was some weird technique where you could crouch before knifing and it'd go all commando pro for some reason.
Crana oh yes wasn't perfect but still alot of fun to play,had a few miss knifes where it would only do half the knife animation then got stabbed, playing it last night loads of players still on pc
At that point you're talking about a top down FPS RPG where you click your soldier and then click on an enemy soldier and hit the button for "shoot main weapon" spell. Makes me think of XCOM.
BC1's swipe mechanic was more fair and BF2's is my preferred as it's you poking them with the knife like you are actually stabbing them yourself and not some animation that has taken control of your character.
I see Ravic upload and I think: "Oh, a gameplay by Ravic, he's gonna be beasting with normal weapons!" And then I clicked on it, and I couldn't have expected better. Of course Ravic would already be tired of the "Normal Weapons"
I wish the bayonet charges interacted with the environment more. Being able to pin someone against the wall on the tip if your bayonet or running them through from behind and pushing them out a window would be radical
The Beta is jenky even by Dice's "standards". I don't feel BF1 has the longevity of BF4, yet again it's hard to tell from one dusty hell hole of a map.
A1sd Gaming I guess it's the pessimists amongst us haha. It's all well and good Dice LA being around if they hear the everyday gamers opinions. Atleast they're running 60hz servers from the off, that's something at least.
Will DICE LA be around for this game after launch? I haven't seen or heard any evidence to support this assumption. Also to Dinxsy in general I'll be surprised to see 60hz servers from the start on all RSPs because they still hadn't brought any of the RSPs into picture when the EA Play event was going on which is behind schedule going by previous releases and their timelines. At the very least I don't recall seeing a developer confirmation that default will be 60hz for any server.
Some of those melee kills remind me of the bug in Halo where you could melee, throw a grenade, and then immediately melee again, which would always kill someone if you put a few shots into them first.
i doubt they would nerf it just becuase ravic and his friends use it so well. in ww1 gas was everywhere. in some places in europe the ground is so toxic that the areas are blocked off
Gunshots revealing your location was something added to the recent or "new Battlefield" games. So players accustomed to old Battlefield or a lot FPS games prior to that era welcome the return to sound whoring and understand mini-map awareness. For most the players that started with BF3 or recent Battlefield titles it should be like taking off the training wheels because they know what to look for on the mini-map so now when they hear gunshots on the other side of a wall and notice on the mini-map no friendly players on the other side they know it's an enemy without the need for it to display a 2D icon of the enemy player. Now if only we could chisel away at DICE's stubbornness with 3D spotting as well as get rid of Hardcore mode for a more unified community and gaming experience we'd have real progress made on something that a lot of gamers would appreciate even if they don't realize the reasons for why they would.
Melee lock-on animations should only occur a lot closer and be removed from front melee attacks, front 3/4 melee attacks and only work from the sides, rear 3/4 and rear of a player. OR. Melee lock-on animations do not work whatsoever on a moving / sprinting player, only if the player is stationary or slightly/ about to move. Also, the movement dose feel weird and sluggish especially when combining jumping and crouching in quick succession. I just hope that they really refine it and strike a balance that will cater both a natural more predictable looking movement while still being sharp, precise and responsive like the BF4 movement system without the exploits. Thoughts? P.S Great video as always Ravic.
Oh god, I remember playing Halo 4 back in the day. I would get the sword and call out to my team mates, "Samurai with a sword!" They would all leave my area and have me defend the point by myself. Constant switching between BR and sword and all the flanks. Good times.
To be honest, if you let someone get this close to you almost uncontested, you deserve to be melee'd. What's funny about this video is that everyone has the ability to do what Ravic is doing.
And here's me using the insta grenade reload to spam light AT nades at tanks, never thought to use the gas ones, looks way more fun. Is there a limit on how many can be active at once or can you spam to your heart's content?
Keep chucking gas nads until you see hit markers nice strategy. I have my worries about the melee & bayonet charges myself I hope it doesn't break certain maps
Actually, it's double kill -> triple kill -> overkill -> killtacular. And the time taken between kill 3 and 4 was something like six seconds so you wouldn't have gotten an overkill since the dealy is four seconds. jk ily Ravic
Anonymous That hasnt been my luck, I'd aim at people 15 metres away maybe not even, ADS centermass, and the deviation would paint a picture around them everytime, second i just hipfire I melted people, it was ridiculous
For some reason I don't really see a problem with short range bayonets seeing as that's what they were made for - close combat where your rifle would be at a disadvantage. And all you gotta rally do to fix front melee is lengthen the time it takes to bring up your melee weapon instead of making it fucking instant on pressing your quick melee key.
Agreed. I also think bayonet charges should be able to be interrupted after a certain amount of damage is dealt. Kind of sucks drilling your enemy full of lead and then dying to their charge and seeing them have like 1-5 health. It feels like "what more am I supposed to do there?".
moonlitegram I honestly think that if you make the charge able to be cancelled by damage then they'd become useless. They are already a risk because you are forced to close distance to the enemy in a mostly straight line, meaning someone who can shoot at least somewhat well WILL gun you down.
That's a fair point. But I do think something has to be adjusted here. I saw lots of players abusing this by starting a bayonet charge immediately upon entering a door where the closing distance was non existent, leaving little option for the opposing player. Just seemed really cheesy and counter to promoting competition/interaction. Maybe it should be a key you have to hold down for a bit to engage. Or as you suggested with melee, maybe there should be some kind of animation delay before starting the charge which would at least give people in close quarters time to react.
moonlitegram yeah when I first read about bayonet charges I thought you'd have to sprint for at least 10m before it was an option to do, and not near instantly like now.
Ravic just proved my greatest fear, Get a squad running medics and supports with gas? you could flood an entire area with gas. Just look at how much ravic is doing here add the rest of ravics squad and one area of the map now becomes a melee fest.
I think this is Ravic's way of telling Dice "NERF THE DAMN MELEE" EDIT: IMO all that needs to be done is plain and simple take away the non-behind/assassination animation melee kills. They're too easymode. Yes- you're going to one-shot them at that point anyways (at least I think that's the trigger) but it takes out the skill of hitting them as the range seems very wide. I personally have always hated how hard it is to hit people with melee in games and this might be to compensate for that, but honestly it's not the right solution.
+Jordan Seiger beta = gold editon / demo how many fixes do you think will be implemented right away? not alot hell they can't even fox legacy bugs like fake reload
You realize what that means though right? They are using the the terms "beta" and "alpha" as replacements for "demo" for legal reasons. If it was a real beta we would have been on the most recent build actually testing the game doing bug reports through a bug tracker that DICE developers would follow up. That means the "version way ahead of the beta" that they are working on is still filled with bugs, glitches, exploits that generally don't get found until the target audience gets a hold of it not to mention the massive unbalanced state of the game on release because they never fully tested gameplay with everything in the game available to all players. Of course this isn't news to anyone who has experience playing Battlefield or DICE games.
yeah melee take-downs seem a little overpowered. what do you think ravic? do you think they should remove it( which is unlikely) or just nerf it. for example 35 damage for heavy melees and 20 for knives. and since the bayonet charges seem to be the best way of taking down elite classes, bayonet charging point blank is not that bad after all.
Bayonet charging at such close range feels like one of the cheapest way to get kills in the game. There is no countering it at such close ranges and it can one shot a player. I have a clip saved where a player tries to melee me normally and doesn't kill me as I pass him and he passes me and even though on my screen it appears as though our player models are touching each other he still manages to bayonet charge me. Others could certainly make the argument that if they fix the soundstage then hearing those players approaching will make it easier to react and kill them before they get close enough however fixing the soundstage is not something DICE Sweden or LA has shown to be capable of as BF4's is still broken because of sound priority/queues. As for the rest of the melee nonsense if it wasn't clear in the video it's a joke. What they have in BF1 encourages so much "panic knifing" and why oh why does melee have aim assist again ( stronger than BC2's knifing aim assist ). So because I know they can't fix the sound especially with 64 player situations I'd prefer these kinds of melee take downs and abilities be more difficult to perform if not removed entirely. These are personal opinions though and while I think the melee combat has a negative impact on close quarters combat and encourages bad player behavior DICE might have their own justifications for implementing it and at the end of the day it's still their game.
***** I get what you are saying. I dont think they are gonna remove the melee takedowns since it seems like they worked on those animations a lot. They should implement something to force the players to think wise before taking down someone with melee weapons like maybe you should switch to your melee to use it just like in counter strike and nerf their damage models. they also should make bayonet charging take down activate two seconds after you committed a bayonet charge. however, I am pretty sure they are gonna have to do something about the melee combat in the game, because I can already see the community complaining about it. They are gonna have to make some adjustments after the release.
I think the melee combat won't be as easy as it is in the beta. The build for the beta is 2 months old and they're constantly updating the main version of the game every day, multiple times. They're using our feed back from the beta and making the changes. So I wouldn't expect melee combat to be this easy in the full version
Oh that is interesting. Mind sharing how you know the "build for the beta is 2 months old and that they are constantly updating the main version of the game every day"?
+Ravic one of the other battlefield youtubers said that. I think it was one of westie's videos. But I'm not too sure. Westie knows some of the developers for the game.
So to clarify you expect the melee combat to not be as easy in the full version because a RUclipsr said they are taking feedback and making changes. Right so besides the fact that your source is a RUclipsr and not an actual developer working on the game you took his vague assumption that all feedback will be used to change things in the game as a reason for why you think melee will be different on release. Thanks just wanted to see if there was actual truth to what you said regarding melee combat. As far as your source though I wouldn't put much stock in someone who is constantly promoted on all of Battlefield's social media and uses footage from other people's videos without permission.
I think there should be a penalty for wearing the gas mask and continually running since running with a gas mask is not the easiest task in the world because of the shortage of oxygen that you can get through a gas mask especially when you're exerting effort like running. So maybe a cool down on the spring while wearing the gas mask and constant running? Or a loss of 2 health points every couple seconds? Just thinking out loud
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he has the whole map looking like a fart cloud lol
Yeah that was the flood invading the battlefield... ;P
+suddenshotty lol
***** he said it's normal after eating taco bell
Your enemies.... cant aim...
My enemies, fucking pub stompers..
wait a moment....
holy shit. i'm so glad that ammo packs don't resupply nades like that anymore. it's unbelievable that it was even considered, haha.
Why is it unbelievable? It has existed in pretty much every previous Battlefield title. It's a normal thing.
Nade spam is not a fun thing to play against in any game. Given how effective chemical grenades are, it would make objective caps unbearable.
Come on man it's overkill after a triple not a killtacular ;)
thank you
He also should've gotten the Sword Spree on the fifth kill... Just sayin'
Oi, you find me clear high quality audio files for all the kill spree announcements and I can do it proper. I did what could with what was available.
Future Ruler of Ukraine
There isn't a sword in Combat Evolved tho :(
But the Halo games that came after did not have a unique title to reference and "combat evolved" works on two levels. One being the Halo reference and the other is a poke at DICE's game design.
like clubbing baby seals
.........
+Eat nails AHAHAHHAHA
Andre Sotomayor You sir made my day
Thank you
hahahaha
Omg you too have realized the gas grenade resupply cancer. I've gotten so many pickaxe kills by hot boxing the objective on Rush and sprinting around in the gas
It's actually ANY grenade... the small ammo pack just switches itself out for a new grenade instantly :/
Thought they changed that already?
Yes, but with gas grenades you get TWO. You can throw enough to cover an entire objective area. If you have a whole squad doing it it's absolutely cancerous
Lol the instant grenade replenish is sooo op
Ravic and Mus1CK you hacking son of a guns!!! lmao. love your videos. I'm glad I'm on PS4 so I don't get dominate by you two.
seems more like combat devolved they reduced skillgap with movement restriction
Yeah this game sucks in its current stage
IM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO NOTICED! THANK GOD! Iplay on ps4 and compared to the movement in BF4, the movement is heavily restricted as if everything moved like the player is underwater! Its so bad!
I completely agree and I thought I was one of the only ones not completely blinded by the gorgeous visuals. This game has potential though, but it's not the 'Battlefield' I know and have come to love.
feels fine to me and movement is one of the first things I notice in games, vaulting can still be improved and you still get stuck on shit but not any more than bf4 or any other battlefield. BF 4 felt really janky and weird, the gun animations seemed to lag behind the actual movements, peoples heads bob around like fucking squirrels in 3rd person and everyone looks like they're on constant fast forward. And I came from the Quake, half-life 1, unreal tournament etc era. Animations in BF4 just don't look right at all.
+KvltKommando They don't look right on BF1 either lol.
Why won't you start commentating? You have strong opinions on Baattlefield and people should here them
Why? People need to play and see for themself. Lotta people just hear someones opinion and never bother to get their own.
Paep I just like hearing perspectives of other people's opinions
true, but Ravic and mus1ck should for the sake of BF series, all it's players, God and baby Jesus have a direct stream of their opinions to DICE headquarters..
Like us, Dice watches his video's and read his comments. That's why he gets invited to some of the press events and gets early Alpha/Beta access. Which he then uses the content to upload his view and bugs. "Glitch Night" video's and bug fixes, that's Ravic way of expressing his opinion. Which in turn allows us to go and post on the BattleLog forums and can link others to his video's.
Tbh I much prefer and enjoy his direct approach compared to other YT's yacking on and on about what they think, with the game trailer looping in the background and 20 million ad's with no real content because of "some" nda they signed.
*I'm looking at you JF, Level, etc... same opinion and content regurgitated over and over again.
I like Jackfrags tho
get rid of counter knife they said, what could go wrong they said. I think eventually, all combat will be done via animations. :(
bad company 2 still has the best knife fights , this game is just god awful at the moment
the knife used to go straight through people in that game lol then theyd turn around and knife you. There was some weird technique where you could crouch before knifing and it'd go all commando pro for some reason.
Crana oh yes wasn't perfect but still alot of fun to play,had a few miss knifes where it would only do half the knife animation then got stabbed, playing it last night loads of players still on pc
At that point you're talking about a top down FPS RPG where you click your soldier and then click on an enemy soldier and hit the button for "shoot main weapon" spell. Makes me think of XCOM.
BC1's swipe mechanic was more fair and BF2's is my preferred as it's you poking them with the knife like you are actually stabbing them yourself and not some animation that has taken control of your character.
I will literally subscribe because of the Halo reference!
Thanks Ravic, I enjoy your videos!
All players gonna love you in BF1 once again Ravic, no doubt about that. Looking forward to see "Chat reactions BF1" . :-)
Damn Ravic. You never disappoint bro! Sick feed! I ran into ponylionhd the other I hope I run into you once the full release comes out!
Damn Ravic your a beast at every battlefield game...
I see Ravic upload and I think: "Oh, a gameplay by Ravic, he's gonna be beasting with normal weapons!" And then I clicked on it, and I couldn't have expected better. Of course Ravic would already be tired of the "Normal Weapons"
Ravic is the best BF player I have ever seen in my life.
Finally more people that understand how ridiculous melee kills are. So overpowered.
I'm waiting for "battlefield 1 shooting out pilots" and tank syringing
Tank syringe was patched, if you try it now you get an easter egg sound effect. As for shooting out pilots check out his other beta video. :)
I'm sitting here studying his work. I can't see how he uses that pistol so flawlessly.
hipfire is ridicolously accurate in bf1, pal. Try it with the M1911
For the first 1:05, I love how you added the Halo CE Multiplayer Narrator voice.
That's really an interesting play style. Going around with gas greande with resupply pack and using a pistol to quickily take down noobs
I wish the bayonet charges interacted with the environment more. Being able to pin someone against the wall on the tip if your bayonet or running them through from behind and pushing them out a window would be radical
This is a really interesting playstyle actually!
watch your channel grow from bf1 and im haply that i was here early
This bring me good memories when I play for hour's halo ce in my old laptop
sorry for my English
The Beta is jenky even by Dice's "standards". I don't feel BF1 has the longevity of BF4, yet again it's hard to tell from one dusty hell hole of a map.
I hate the map.
People said the same thing about BF4 /BF3 when BF4 launched. Good thing Dice LA will be around from launch this time!
glaze it fatty It's a shame they didn't let us on the countryside map, don't remember the name lol.
A1sd Gaming I guess it's the pessimists amongst us haha. It's all well and good Dice LA being around if they hear the everyday gamers opinions. Atleast they're running 60hz servers from the off, that's something at least.
Will DICE LA be around for this game after launch? I haven't seen or heard any evidence to support this assumption. Also to Dinxsy in general I'll be surprised to see 60hz servers from the start on all RSPs because they still hadn't brought any of the RSPs into picture when the EA Play event was going on which is behind schedule going by previous releases and their timelines. At the very least I don't recall seeing a developer confirmation that default will be 60hz for any server.
Some of those melee kills remind me of the bug in Halo where you could melee, throw a grenade, and then immediately melee again, which would always kill someone if you put a few shots into them first.
the amount of gas in this video makes me think they should add a chemical weapons hero class
makes me think they're going to nerf it. Hope they don't see this video.
i doubt they would nerf it just becuase ravic and his friends use it so well. in ww1 gas was everywhere. in some places in europe the ground is so toxic that the areas are blocked off
+G AP
There is a bug in beta making grenades instantly replenish which is why there is so much gas.
There willl be more elite classes added jn the future, so yeah they might add chemical warrior elite.
I imagine an armored tank sort of character who has a backpack that spews gas every where it goes
Halo inspired Intro *slow clap* I'm proud of you
The thing where u resupply on grenades instantly is very useful in rush if u have smoke grenades
gas looks way better in the beta than it did during release
I kinda like the way the gas looks in the beta than the full game
ravic, do you see yourself playing this game on a regular basis until the next battlefield?
NO. stop using other people to advertise your channel, If i wanted to check your channel i would.
just report him for spam
Reported
+Ballistus lol xD?
+NonsensicalVids Low Looks Like Ur Advertising
keep up the good work
Lovin that Halo feel, still play Reach today.
"that ammo is for you" picks it up himself.
I would frickin love to see this guy play counterstrike
This would make the colonel's feats from BFFs a lot more realistic :P
huh, and i heard one of the main features of the new map was how it incentivized long-ranged play, and here ravic is omar-sharifing every body
Come on guys it's still in beta. You can't seriously think this is the final product.
Loving the animation for melee in BF1. Ravic do you like em? Knife ones are sick
My favourite is the club from the side, you step on their toes and then smash them in the chin with the club
Rambo JR I love all of em xD
I love the trench knife.
The hatchet is bloody as hell though.
Saber
Ravic, what are your thoughts on gunshots no longer revealing your location on the mini-map?
Gunshots revealing your location was something added to the recent or "new Battlefield" games. So players accustomed to old Battlefield or a lot FPS games prior to that era welcome the return to sound whoring and understand mini-map awareness. For most the players that started with BF3 or recent Battlefield titles it should be like taking off the training wheels because they know what to look for on the mini-map so now when they hear gunshots on the other side of a wall and notice on the mini-map no friendly players on the other side they know it's an enemy without the need for it to display a 2D icon of the enemy player. Now if only we could chisel away at DICE's stubbornness with 3D spotting as well as get rid of Hardcore mode for a more unified community and gaming experience we'd have real progress made on something that a lot of gamers would appreciate even if they don't realize the reasons for why they would.
Exactly, I couldn't have said it better. What's your opinion on the new conquest?
Prepare for new meta on the last day of the beta.
Ravic should not be allowed to play with the public. Its like Lebron James playing against a bunch of 5 year olds.
Melee lock-on animations should only occur a lot closer and be removed from front melee attacks, front 3/4 melee attacks and only work from the sides, rear 3/4 and rear of a player.
OR.
Melee lock-on animations do not work whatsoever on a moving / sprinting player, only if the player is stationary or slightly/ about to move.
Also, the movement dose feel weird and sluggish especially when combining jumping and crouching in quick succession. I just hope that they really refine it and strike a balance that will cater both a natural more predictable looking movement while still being sharp, precise and responsive like the BF4 movement system without the exploits.
Thoughts?
P.S Great video as always Ravic.
I would love it if they introduced some true Chivalry-style mele combat with blocks/parrys/combos.
Ravic- Battlefield Illuminati.
Oh god, I remember playing Halo 4 back in the day. I would get the sword and call out to my team mates, "Samurai with a sword!" They would all leave my area and have me defend the point by myself. Constant switching between BR and sword and all the flanks. Good times.
You're so good. Congrats bro
+Carlos Guijón Sarcasm?
I remember that too. Fun as hell.
halo 4 is the worst shit man, at least halo 5 is better
To be honest, if you let someone get this close to you almost uncontested, you deserve to be melee'd. What's funny about this video is that everyone has the ability to do what Ravic is doing.
Fun fact
Getting a juggernaut kit and then riding a horse makes you a fucking one man army.
And here's me using the insta grenade reload to spam light AT nades at tanks, never thought to use the gas ones, looks way more fun. Is there a limit on how many can be active at once or can you spam to your heart's content?
This man hot boxed the map
Imagine how different this game would play if there were weight limits.
What do you use to record/what settings do you use?
This must be what it looks like to kill from darth vaders perspective
Keep chucking gas nads until you see hit markers nice strategy. I have my worries about the melee & bayonet charges myself I hope it doesn't break certain maps
I for one like the more brutal fast paced combat!!!
Ravic the Killingmachine, as usual.
Has anyone else noticed the sometimes your character sounds like he's going insane
It's past your bed time Ravic
Actually, it's double kill -> triple kill -> overkill -> killtacular.
And the time taken between kill 3 and 4 was something like six seconds so you wouldn't have gotten an overkill since the dealy is four seconds.
jk ily Ravic
Got to enjoy it while you can. Grenades are going to be slower to restock in live. :(
What is your opinion about DICE shutting down the Open Beta tommorow(8 Sept.)?
Hey ravic how do you avoid so much gunfire? Or they just suck?
You got any tips and tricks on your channel?
Nice fun tactics there!
Battlefield 1, 2016's hipfire simulator since ADS is essentially useless
Only for SMGs and pistols. The shotgun is too unreliable for it funny enough.
G Turpin Even with LMG's you dont need to aim ffs
+Serrated Frost yes you do lmfao wtf kind of shit is that? Your aim greatly increases the longer you shoot
like, you know, Battlefield 3 was 2011's hipfire simulator you mean?
Anonymous That hasnt been my luck, I'd aim at people 15 metres away maybe not even, ADS centermass, and the deviation would paint a picture around them everytime, second i just hipfire I melted people, it was ridiculous
For some reason I don't really see a problem with short range bayonets seeing as that's what they were made for - close combat where your rifle would be at a disadvantage. And all you gotta rally do to fix front melee is lengthen the time it takes to bring up your melee weapon instead of making it fucking instant on pressing your quick melee key.
Agreed. I also think bayonet charges should be able to be interrupted after a certain amount of damage is dealt. Kind of sucks drilling your enemy full of lead and then dying to their charge and seeing them have like 1-5 health. It feels like "what more am I supposed to do there?".
moonlitegram
I honestly think that if you make the charge able to be cancelled by damage then they'd become useless. They are already a risk because you are forced to close distance to the enemy in a mostly straight line, meaning someone who can shoot at least somewhat well WILL gun you down.
That's a fair point. But I do think something has to be adjusted here. I saw lots of players abusing this by starting a bayonet charge immediately upon entering a door where the closing distance was non existent, leaving little option for the opposing player.
Just seemed really cheesy and counter to promoting competition/interaction.
Maybe it should be a key you have to hold down for a bit to engage. Or as you suggested with melee, maybe there should be some kind of animation delay before starting the charge which would at least give people in close quarters time to react.
moonlitegram
yeah when I first read about bayonet charges I thought you'd have to sprint for at least 10m before it was an option to do, and not near instantly like now.
Using gas grenades as toxic cover with the mask and then melee killing them. Why haven't I thought of that?
this is why the Calvary class and ft-17 are getting nerfed
Ravic just proved my greatest fear, Get a squad running medics and supports with gas? you could flood an entire area with gas. Just look at how much ravic is doing here add the rest of ravics squad and one area of the map now becomes a melee fest.
Best intro EVER :v
Absolutely right, if you get the trench knife, you can spam the fuck out of melee and win almost every engagement. It's fucked
we need to know what's your opinion on the game so far. all the other youtubers opinion doesn't really matter
What cards are you running to get that beast frame rate
Ravic what do you think of dubstepzz bf1 vids? is he better than you?
Finish the video and ask again if you must.
Soon Dice will make a Game mode called Team Vs Ravic
I think this is Ravic's way of telling Dice "NERF THE DAMN MELEE"
EDIT: IMO all that needs to be done is plain and simple take away the non-behind/assassination animation melee kills. They're too easymode. Yes- you're going to one-shot them at that point anyways (at least I think that's the trigger) but it takes out the skill of hitting them as the range seems very wide. I personally have always hated how hard it is to hit people with melee in games and this might be to compensate for that, but honestly it's not the right solution.
seems pretty balanced to me .. but dont mind me , i am that one guy who manages to fall down while even layin on the grass .
About as much balance as the rich:poor divide.
1) I can't wait to see your BFOne hackusations video! :D
2) your video shows exactly why I won't be buying this trash
But this is only the Beta. You can't judge the game when it's not even finished
+Jordan Seiger beta = gold editon / demo how many fixes do you think will be implemented right away? not alot hell they can't even fox legacy bugs like fake reload
They're currently working on a version way ahead of the beta so I really don't know what you guys are talking about lmao
You realize what that means though right? They are using the the terms "beta" and "alpha" as replacements for "demo" for legal reasons. If it was a real beta we would have been on the most recent build actually testing the game doing bug reports through a bug tracker that DICE developers would follow up. That means the "version way ahead of the beta" that they are working on is still filled with bugs, glitches, exploits that generally don't get found until the target audience gets a hold of it not to mention the massive unbalanced state of the game on release because they never fully tested gameplay with everything in the game available to all players. Of course this isn't news to anyone who has experience playing Battlefield or DICE games.
I like gas grenades but, has Ravic gone too far?
Did Filthy Franku do the voice over for the japanese spring/charge?
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the title should be "welcome to the club (soon on your face)" :)
yeah melee take-downs seem a little overpowered. what do you think ravic? do you think they should remove it( which is unlikely) or just nerf it. for example 35 damage for heavy melees and 20 for knives. and since the bayonet charges seem to be the best way of taking down elite classes, bayonet charging point blank is not that bad after all.
Bayonet charging at such close range feels like one of the cheapest way to get kills in the game. There is no countering it at such close ranges and it can one shot a player. I have a clip saved where a player tries to melee me normally and doesn't kill me as I pass him and he passes me and even though on my screen it appears as though our player models are touching each other he still manages to bayonet charge me. Others could certainly make the argument that if they fix the soundstage then hearing those players approaching will make it easier to react and kill them before they get close enough however fixing the soundstage is not something DICE Sweden or LA has shown to be capable of as BF4's is still broken because of sound priority/queues.
As for the rest of the melee nonsense if it wasn't clear in the video it's a joke. What they have in BF1 encourages so much "panic knifing" and why oh why does melee have aim assist again ( stronger than BC2's knifing aim assist ). So because I know they can't fix the sound especially with 64 player situations I'd prefer these kinds of melee take downs and abilities be more difficult to perform if not removed entirely. These are personal opinions though and while I think the melee combat has a negative impact on close quarters combat and encourages bad player behavior DICE might have their own justifications for implementing it and at the end of the day it's still their game.
***** I get what you are saying. I dont think they are gonna remove the melee takedowns since it seems like they worked on those animations a lot. They should implement something to force the players to think wise before taking down someone with melee weapons like maybe you should switch to your melee to use it just like in counter strike and nerf their damage models. they also should make bayonet charging take down activate two seconds after you committed a bayonet charge. however, I am pretty sure they are gonna have to do something about the melee combat in the game, because I can already see the community complaining about it. They are gonna have to make some adjustments after the release.
How did you get the saved I could only get the club while doing this
does bf1 play/feel more mile hardline or bf4/bf3
Do you think they should alter anything about the melee aspect?
It's good as it is. Not like bf4, but somewhat balanced.
i hope they reduce the grenade spawn from ammo packs
i just thought why noweone is talking and i saw ravic ....
how do you get so much gas granades is it because you have amo packs
Yes. That is right.
I think the melee combat won't be as easy as it is in the beta. The build for the beta is 2 months old and they're constantly updating the main version of the game every day, multiple times. They're using our feed back from the beta and making the changes. So I wouldn't expect melee combat to be this easy in the full version
Oh that is interesting. Mind sharing how you know the "build for the beta is 2 months old and that they are constantly updating the main version of the game every day"?
+Ravic one of the other battlefield youtubers said that. I think it was one of westie's videos. But I'm not too sure. Westie knows some of the developers for the game.
+Ravic in his video run & gun, he says it near the end of the video
So to clarify you expect the melee combat to not be as easy in the full version because a RUclipsr said they are taking feedback and making changes. Right so besides the fact that your source is a RUclipsr and not an actual developer working on the game you took his vague assumption that all feedback will be used to change things in the game as a reason for why you think melee will be different on release. Thanks just wanted to see if there was actual truth to what you said regarding melee combat. As far as your source though I wouldn't put much stock in someone who is constantly promoted on all of Battlefield's social media and uses footage from other people's videos without permission.
+Ravic lmao dayum son chill you already burnt him to a crisp
I think there should be a penalty for wearing the gas mask and continually running since running with a gas mask is not the easiest task in the world because of the shortage of oxygen that you can get through a gas mask especially when you're exerting effort like running. So maybe a cool down on the spring while wearing the gas mask and constant running? Or a loss of 2 health points every couple seconds? Just thinking out loud
I clubbed a flame trooper with my spike club once and I didn't know he was right next to me
And I was just looking at the design
yeah I don't like the melee so far it's kinda dumb cause you can animation melee from the front
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you realise that first clip is because of the bug that gives vehicle class infantry insane health?
I don't think it's a bug
if its not a bug its a design flaw, shouldnt have more health unless you look like you do
+OrangeBrot Yeah, it is definitely deliberate.
They also gave him Medpacks and Ammo packs, just in case he wasn't OP enough.
but i assume it wont be the same in the full release, i literally just spawn on a horse every game because you get the best gun, health and ammo
It's not a bug. The cavalry class has heavy armor on. Look at that big metal breatplate.
Hah. That reminds me of CoD's knife runner days.
The endless grenades you seem to be able to regenerate is more bullshit than the melee.
I can't equip gas grenades for the cavalry class? Why is dis? I'm on ps44