Use a 2-Inch Barlow Lens and Telescope For Moon Photography
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2019
- This is the first time I doubled the focal length on my Celestron NexStar 8SE telescope with a 2x Barlow Lens. I was really pleased with the features I was able to see on the lunar surface. I hope this video can serve as a tutorial of others who want to try astrophotography on the moon through a telescope. Here is more info on the hardware and software:
Imaging Telescope:
Celestron NexStar 8SE
Mount:
Celestron NexStar SE Computerized Alt-Az Mount
Imaging Camera:
ZWO ASI183MM (non-cooled)
Barlow:
Astromania - 2" ED 2X Dual Power Telescope Barlow Lens
Filter:
Astronomik ProPlanet 642 BP IR-Pass Filter - 1.25"
Capture Software:
SharpCap 3.1
Stacking Software:
AutoStakkert
Post-Processing
PixInsight
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I had to comment.That last "fuck!" made me laugh out loud! So many are so serious about this hobby and being politically correct so to hear that just floored me.Thanks! That one "Fuck!" got you a new subscriber! Now, for the serious bit: I've been wondering about 2 inch barlows. Would you say such a barlow gives far better light grasp and quality than any of the 1.25 inch barlows out there?
Who could ever get tired of looking at the moon? Especially with the extreme closeups. Good job as usual.
Thanks Jeff, the moon is a great big fun and amazing target to point a telescope at.
“I don’t know why I come here. The flies get the best of everything.” - W.C. Fields. Another good one Chuck!
This is exactly the type of video that needs to be out there - how to put it together videos, that explain little tricky components. Impressive images if that was really a cheaper end of market Barlow lens.
The Barlow exceeded my expectations. Thanks Steve.
Always a pleasure to watch your videos Chuck! I crack up every time with the Outtakes! Keep doing what your doing, you are making a difference.
Thanks Peeb, glad to hear it!
:) Love the outtakes!! Helpful video chuck, keep em coming.
Really great stuff, Chuck! I need to get back into planetary. I'm going to check that filter out you mentioned! Looks like rain this week...
Thanks Trevor, the filter works wonders on the moon. It can also produce a sharper image on planets, but at the expense of stripping away the color.
Good video and good informational news on using a2 inch Barlow with a SCT. I have issues all the time but I learn for the next time. Good luck in your astronomy hobby.
well done! I'm about to inherit a few Barlow lenses; this was a great tutorial. Now I gotta get a telescope. cheers ! 🍻🍻
I love the out takes Chuck! They are freakin hilarious!😂😂😂😂
I'm glad you were entertained, Paul.
Good video Chuck. The joys of making an online video and the outtakes are hilarious! I had a good laugh on the last comment :)
Thanks Richard, glad you were entertained, lol.
Very nice!!! I've used my ASI294 on the moon with the C8. Nice wide view. Thanks for sharing!!!
Thanks Gary, everyone I've heard from loves the ASI294.
Cool Moon images Chuck! Great job on the video too!
Clear skies Mike
Thanks Mike!
Sweet footage! Nice and crisp.
And I'm pretty sure you blew the dust off of my face with that bellow. Haha!
lol, thanks Don. I didn't even know I was banging the lens of my camera until I watched the vid.
lol! You are a hoot! I had not seen anyone put a cmos camera with a 2 x's Barlow lens yet. So it is good to know it can be done. Thanks!
Always entertaining. Love those out-takes.
Thanks Todd, glad to hear it!
Great work! Love the Barlow!!
Great video Chuck. Thank you for all your effort :)
Thanks
Gollond
I love your pictures, amazing as usual.
Thanks EddWar!
Please keep working with the 8" SCT please, I'd love to see what it's capable of. Thanks
Thanks Gumba, if I can think of more uses for it I will.
Love the outtakes 😂 . Nice work Chuck!
Thanks AstroDude
Those outtakes are priceless
Nice Chuck, it makes me want to start imaging the moon. I like the music selections.
Thanks Kurt, I like this music too - it's called "Orbital Romance" from Google's free library.
Love your videos. Keep them coming.
Thanks Rudy
Really nice lunar shots Chuck
Thanks CSA
Great upload! the 2 inch Barlow has given you fantastic results.....keep up the great work my friend :)
Thanks Notts
@@ChucksAstrophotography your welcome ☺
Nice views of Moon there Chuck. It still boggles my mind that Men have actually DRIVEN on the Moon!?? Never mind just walking! lol. I'd give ANYTHING to be a child again so i could pursue with vigour a career as an Astronaut! Can you imagine the feeling of excitement stepping down from a lander onto the friggin Moon!?? Or even Mars!?? This will sound very selfish of me but i would happily take a one way to Mars, or even Jupiter, Saturn, if i could last the long journey that far out! Amazing...
I've thought about that before, whether I would take a one way ticket to another planet. I'd have to say 'probably not'. I think the thrill of arriving at another planet would wear off over time, and the thought of never returning home would overwhelm me.
@@ChucksAstrophotography Chuck i totally agree with you regarding the excitement n novelty wearing off over time, then one would become utterly overwhelmed and home sick. It's a tough one my friend.
Those f**king bugs get me all the time too. Lol. Awesome footage of the moon Chuck.
lol, thanks Eric
Lol the outtakes were awesome!
Glad you enjoyed them, Danno, lol.
Very nice Chuck!! Really glad you are using the 8SE for some things. If not the 8SE May get jealous lol
Thanks DJ, it was fun getting more use out of it.
Your seeing conditions looked very good, even the raw live images looked very stable.
Yes, it was a really good night for imaging and no breeze which would have shaken that Alt-az mount.
I love the outtakes
The outtakes seem to be more popular than the main content, lol.
Great video! The barlow worked really nicely for you!
Thanks Rob, I'm glad that Barlow worked, other that whole beginning of me putting the imaging train together would have been for nothing and I would have scrapped the video.
Awesome stuff, man. Great channel. Also 10:08 lol
Great video. If you use a 6.3 reduser on that scope, you can capture a deep space object.
I use that on mine with a 1.5 Barlow.
The bloopers were awesome hahaha.
Amazing, thanks for sharing!
Thanks Lady
Nice, you made short work of setting up those spacers. work with the spacers. Being in a light polluted area, I've gotten a decent amount of experience and will continue to have the opportunity to image the moon. Started with a fork mounted C8 without clock-drive running and now use an SkyWatcher EQ-6R Pro.
One thing I noticed about keeping the moon in frame is that good polar alignment always makes a huge difference. One I figured it out, I was so happy and amazed by the fact that I could keep a particular part of the moon or a one of the gas giants near the center of my FOV for a seemingly limitless span of time. More likely to encounter clouds before losing the target, if at all.
Next time I will try my wedge and do polar alignment.
You’re a hoot, Chuck 😂
Great moon shots!
lol, thanks Randy
awesome detail
Thanks Todd
Cool Video Chuck!
Thanks Ray
WOW!🤯 I'm hoping for a little clear sky for a moon session tonight.
Good luck!
Awesome shots of the moon chuck. I can’t get over how sharp and clear they are. Mine always seem a bit blurry and pull at ur eyes. It’s difficult to get high FPS shooting at full resolution. No matter the challenge u always pull off amazing shots. I spent 3 hrs last night fighting to get my mount to connect to my pc. It was awful and just when I was bout to give up presto things started working. Finally started capturing M13 around 1 am. It was my first night out in weeks and things just couldn’t be easy😡. If there isn’t clouds in the sky there’s always one over my head. Lol. Looking forward to ur next vid.
Thanks Sweatsox8
, I was hoping for the best with this Barlow, and happy with how the images turned out. I know it's frustrating to spend 3 hours fixing an issue. Last week I lost 6 hours of clear skies while trying to get my focuser to work right. M13 is a good choice for when the moon is full.
Chuck's Astrophotography . Thanks, I thought m13 was my best choice. As I was shooting in broadband with a full moon. It’s always something to give us problems, glad I’m not the only one. Lol. After trying 3 different cables, updating drivers, uninstalling Ascom, playing around in device manager and uninstalling usb drivers and reinstalling. With each step kept getting different error messages I’ve never seen before. Wasn’t sure if I was making progress or just getting more confused🤪. It all came down to a bum USB port. First world problems. Never connected my guide camera to my imaging camera before. So I did that freeing up my other usb3.0 and used that to connect to my HC and bingo everything worked. Thanks for letting me vent. Nice talking to someone who understands. My wife would have fell asleep by now. 😭
Great moon shots! Geez even the birds are extra loud at your place. Lol
You should hear when the trains blow their horn from a half mile away - and they like to do it in the middle of the night.
Awe...the moon... 🌙 🌚 🌝
The one and only!
Nice shots, Chuck.
Meanwhile here, clouds every damn night, can't even see the moon for more than a couple of minutes lol.
Dang, sorry to hear that Gordon.
You should try capturing ROI instead of full camera resolution, that way you will get some 20-30 FPS for capturing 1000+ frames and have better quality output. Bin 2x2 also significantly boost FPS but in CMOS camera like ZWO it only reduces the resolution by software binning not like CCD.
Yes, thanks for the tips. I was going full frame and full resolution though because I had a large metal prints in mind that need high resolution pictures.
how are you tracking the moon ? do you have a tracker for long exposures?
Nice video, Chuck. Good to do so etching a little different from time to time, and the finished shots look great. Do you think there is much of an improvement in the 2" Barlow over the 1.25"?
"something", (autocorrect)
@@ahok Thanks ahok
, I was wondering about a 1.25" also. My guess is that there might have been some vignetting around the sides of the image with the 1.25" Barlow since the light would have gone down a narrower tunnel to reach the camera sensor.. Even though I'm using a 1.25" IR Pass filter, it's as close to the sensor as possible, so no vignetting was seen in my images. But it's all a guess since I never tried it.
Thank you
thanks for these videos , i really enjoy it .... 😍
i have question
what could i see ( planets and nebula's + galaxy's) with this telescope F70060 ??
D=60mm F=700mm
525x Magnifications
Eye pieces: SR4mm, H20mm,H12.5mm
Image Erecting Eyepiece: 1.5x
Barlow Lens: 3x magnification
Magnification range (without Barlow lens and erecting eyepiece): 35x, 56x, 175x
The end has me rolling 😂😂
Glad to entertain you , Corey.
Have you ever tried eyepiece projection with that camera? Would really like to see a video with it, doesn't seem to be any that I can find on youtube. Everything is DSLR
Pretty sure I saw an Apollo boot print. Crisp detail!
I wish, lol. Thanks James.
You need a cigar, a plate of pasta and a little wine. Then you’ll be all set.
Instead of all that, I ended up with Poison Ivy.
You know a handy can of Dust Off can really zap those stubborn dust motes.
Thanks for the moon shots. Too bad we can't see those 50 year old foot prints :)!
That would be amazing to see anything related to Apollo. I don't trust those Dust Off cans, because sometimes moisture shoots out of those cans.
Sometimes Dust Off can leave a propellant stain which is not fun to clean off. I have found that if you keep the straw at an upward angle, that can be avoided.
P.S. Congrats on your shout out from AstroBackyard today, even with the (humorous) f-bombs.
Thanks for the tip, John!
Love the tape!
Why are you still awake? Go to bed! lol
Chuck's Astrophotography You are the one that was going to bed. lol
@@futureworldmedia5519 In bed with my iPad replying to RUclips comments. Since I'm still up, now I'm waiting for the meridian flip in 25 minutes.
Chuck's Astrophotography lol
Which extension tube did you use on the camera?
Great vid Chuck. Does your laptop support USB 3.0 and does it have a fast write speed SSD? You can increase your FPS significantly to what the camera is capable of doing.
Thanks James, yes - I bought this laptop specially because it had USB 3.0 and a SSD. But imaging at the highest resolution of this camera and binning one is definitely a challenge when it comes to grabbing lots of frames in a single video.
@@ChucksAstrophotography looks like your camera can do 19 FPS at full resolution, so something is not right if you can only get to 2.2 FPS. Bad USB 3.0 cable, your SSD isn't able to write fast enough? Issues with your USB 3.0 hardware?
@@ChucksAstrophotography - Some laptops that have USB 3.0 ports aren't 3.0 compatible on ALL of those ports, just some of them. Use the ports that have the little SS-> icon next to it. Sorry if you already knew this, but just wanted to point out that it isn't always as straight-forward as it seems.
@@epicuniversal Oh, maybe that flat USB cable is crappy!
Can you post links to the various adapters used? Thanks!
Hi Chuck! I noticed that when you had Sharpcap hooked up to your planetary camera and telescope, there was no vibration or change in focus displayed on the screen. Yet when I do the same thing I can never get stable focus and can’t take a solid video. I do my imaging on the 4th floor of an apartment building so does that cause any vibration?
Any little thing can cause vibration. Have you tried those Celestron Vibration Pads to see if those help?
Chuck's Astrophotography I actually get those recently and I tried them out and they do work but the focus still isn’t as stable as it should be
@@AstroBen949 Oh ok, not sure what else to suggest.
nice finder mount
A bit sloppy, I know. But it's very dialed-in, I find objects in seconds.
Hey Chuck, your FPS is in this case limited by the USB transfer speed. If you want faster frames, reduce the capture area (you can keep the same pixel scale, but only use a part of the sensor) and make sure you are using USB3. The ASI183 has a lot of pixels it needs to push over that cable. If you see dropped frames, your laptop is not keeping up.
Thanks Benny, I figured I could reduce the capture area, but I really wanted to use the full edge to edge FOV - even at the cost of not getting a lot of frames per video. Hopefully I've captured some good enough data that is print worth on a 20x16" metal print.
@@ChucksAstrophotography yeah I got that from the video, thing is if you want that many pixels, you gotta pay the price IMHO (a lot time and a lot of disc space) around my place the urban heat forces at least 1000 frames and then toss out 95% afterwards to stack the best 5%.
What software did you use to process the photos?
Nice Green Screen Chuck! :-)
lol, I wish! The bugs were in full force and I think it's worse near the vine. I should have done this video in the basement.
Chuck's Astrophotography I for one like to see you suffer a bit, loool, j/k, love the outtakes - the last one was very funny it felt like a Mob scene. Looool
Chuck “Fk, someone is going to sleep with the fish tonight if you bugs don’t fk off”
Lol
@@Popclone LOL, a mob scene, I like it!
What was the music you used at the end during the raw video? Sounds beautiful!
It's called "Orbital Romance". I found it in Google's copyright free library for RUclips creators.
Good job. Outtakes make this vid :D
Thanks REDDY71
, glad you were entertained.
Haha Great Job Chuck.. Pics and Videos are Awsome.! The Moon is about the only thing I can shoot as of now. I have a Orion Space Probe 130ST EQ..
It has No “Tracking” so it Sorta Limits me as to what I can shoot. Planets don’t seem to come out, thy look like a Mere Speck.
I have had this Scope for quite some time and have been looking into Upgrading to a Larger one. The Scope I was looking at is a Celestron 9.25 Edge HD.. thy cost a lot.. but I didn’t want to get one that was Smaller and be Disappointed. Ya know.?
I Wld also need a Camera and a Laptop to I guess.. because all the pics of the moon I have shot has been with my Phone, which takes good pics. But it isn’t a designated Astro Cam.
Any tips or advice wld be Appreciated.. thanks for your Videos.. I have Learned A lot..!! 👊😎
Thanks Bruce. Yes, tracking is a must for solar system objects. The Edge is a nice scope for both deep sky and solar system objects. It's hard to suggest a camera because there are so many. But what I would do is search on Astrobin for whatever objects you are interested in capturing. You will see a wide range of pictures and different cameras to give you a good idea of what each one can do.
Chuck's Astrophotography Thanks for the Reply Chuck.. If I got an 8 inch With Tracking do you think I Wld see a much better Difference in that scope then the one I am currently using.? I Wld like to upgrade to a better one but thy are Not Cheap..lol seems like a huge Rabbit hole just to get some good Images..lol
I don’t mean to ask so many questions.. it’s just a Big Expense and didn’t want to get a scope that wldnt preform better than the one I have.
Any advice wld be appreciated Chuck. Thanks..
@@brucenunn3268 Tracking vs. no-tracking is a game changer. Tracking is what makes Astrophotography possible.
Cant we attach a 1.25 inch barlow lens and a 1.25 inch t adapter to this telescope??
Yes, easily.
I love the zwo 183 great camera bad ampglow but the resolution is so nice.
Yes. it seems to have way more amp glow than the ASI1600MM. I'm not sure how that impacts deepsky imaging, but for solar system objects, it's a non-issue.
@@ChucksAstrophotography You do have to have very good darks i have found and you have to turn off dark optimization in dss but the thing i hate the most is when i select 3x drizzle in dss and have to wait 20 mins for it to render
@@cowthedestroyer Wow,3x Drizzle. I only do 2x Drizzle in PixInsight, and even that takes forever.
@@newscotlandtv Im running a 9900k at 5ghz and a 1070ti with a 1050ti i have plenty of horse power and it still takes forever.
@@newscotlandtv Unless if your comment isnt showing up or got deleted the statment about it being an overclocked pentuim was fucking gold and ghz does matter when prossing no way its going to stay at the turbo boost long enough to justify not ocing and what year are you living in with 3rd and 4thgen which i assume you mean ryzen and 4th gen isnt out but if your talking about intel you are wayyyy behind
Boy, I hope Chuck replies to these cuz I'd like an answer before tonights viewing lol, I'm curious ( maybe confused a bit?) . DO you need a Barlow lens? I ask because uptop where it says ZOOM your on auto.. if you pull that down you can zoom in 800% or more on it. that's what i do.. but I guess is a barlow a better way to do it? thanks . your videos ARE THE BEST. cuz there real !!!
For the conjunction. A Barlow will give you too much zoom, you will never fit the planets in the same frame.
@@ChucksAstrophotography no Barlow was for moon .. but using zoom in sharpcap gives more than barlow .. was curious, why you don't use zoom feature in sharpcap.
I wouldn't try to do both at once. Only one would be clear. Other fuzzy unless i do then separately . I may do Saturn . Just curious on barlow.. didn't know you needed them with a camera ? I'm a noobie noob to astrophotography... sorry if its a dumb question
@@compubyte2010 Zooming in within SharpCap is just zooming in on your camera's resolution. It has nothing to do with actually getting closer to the moon. If you really want to get closer, a Barlow is still needed.
@@ChucksAstrophotography ahh, thank you, couldnt find anything that confirmed it.. but that makes sense..
Thank you so much for all your videos..
When you first came out im like, i can't learn from him. He's fumbling and learning himself lol. But. I kept an eye on you. And damnit no matter how amature. Going you are, you pics say it all, you've learned what I'm still trying to figure out lol .. so had to eat crow and subscribe lol
Thank you. Don't change a thing!!
you better put some BBQ on when you do outside video. burn those musquitos.
I've caught a rash on my left arm and on my left hip side from sitting too close to the grape leave vine with all these bugs. I'm done with that! lol
thanks for sharing, although admitting that you have a dungeon is an outtake you probably should have left out ;-)
10:08 how I feel most of the time lol
Have you tried the 8SE and 1600MM on the moon?
No, but I know the FOV would be bigger.
i seen elvis..
lol
Try reducing the FOV down from the Max, did you see the amount of frames you were dropping ? nearly every other frome was dropped !!
Yeah, I knew I was playing with fire by trying to capture the full frame area, but I wanted the entire FOV in cases I wanted to do some large metal prints. But thanks for the tip.
Aghhhhh... You can store it at my place if you know, you're like short of storage space or anything. ;-)
lol, thanks for the offer.
@@ChucksAstrophotography - You're welcome, haha. I left an 8" newt behind me at the end of my last relationship. Never replaced it with anything because the area I live in now just really isn't good astronomy material and I wouldn't be happy unless I had a big-ish scope again. I gotta say, though... Those days were pure magic, the best astronomy days of my life. Watching your vid takes me back there to first light on that scope, staring in awe at crevices and mountain shadows on the moon, Cassini's division in Saturn's rings, Jupiter's red spot, and so many little kills on DSOs. I really miss it and every so often I almost lose it and go 'scope shopping, lol.
Question for you if I may... What's the absolute fastest refresh rate on that live view? I'm considering getting one of those imagers for a live all-sky camera, and for the occasional microbiology work. If those things can do live view fast framerate work like say as an input device on OBS Studio or such, that might just get me to get one.
Here's an interesting bit of info that came out of the preliminary chase for these makes of cameras for all-sky use. Note in the pictures; this is using an RPi of all things. That's some pretty impressive out-of-the-box usage right there. Using USB cams on RPi micros is painfully clumsy and slow, but if you can do this, then surely you can easily do whatever capture program you want on a strong PC for impressive framerates. An interesting way to go would be to use an Ethernet USB extender to go from the camera setup to the computer, which would easily get you 50+ feet of distance. I have an IO-Gear extender that claims 164' of total cable run, though I've never tested it that far. Fun stuff. Hardest part is weatherproofing and finding a good spot to mount, but it's all very doable on a reasonable budget.
Danny Devito? LOL
LOL, I wish I had his money!
hah, interesting video
Thanks Mao, glad you think so.
Chuck's Astrophotography you video is a good way to get relaxed, I didn’t intend to learn something here , but I just enjoyed the process from the beginning when you get started to shot a target to the final moment you get it finished and emerged on the screen, it was like a magic..
@@user-gr3bb6ni9l Cool, thanks for that comment. Seeing the move 'Live' always amazes me.
i heard F u.. so cute xD
lol
How come I can't see the Apollo landing sites? Are you part of the NASA conspiracy? Or maybe just colluding? Gee, I don't see any double shadows so it must be fake. Oh look, there's a landing strip for aliens that is ten miles wide and 150 miles long.
(ROTFLMAO)
Hey, nice job with relatively low cost equipment.
lol, thanks Denny. This is definitely budget equipment, but I'm glad to get something out of it.
Very nice Chuck!! Really glad you are using the 8SE for some things. If not the 8SE May get jealous lol
Thanks DJ, looks like you had some issues with the comments, you posted three duplicate comments, lol.
Very nice Chuck!! Really glad you are using the 8SE for some things. If not the 8SE May get jealous lol
Thanks DJ, looks like you had some issues with the comments, you posted three duplicate comments, lol.
Chuck's Astrophotography Must was RUclips lol