BEFORE YOU GO TO NAVY OCS, WATCH THIS!!! | Pt 3 - THE SWIM QUAL
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2020
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I was held back in gtx for two weeks in 24/98 cuz I didnt know about the 5 min dead man float face down. My recruiter told me I could do it on my back. Seems, according to your video, that that requirement has changed. I eventually classed up with what became Honor class 25/98 and took me 9 weeks to finally pass the entire test. Took me 15 weeks to get commissioned. 💯💪
Thank you for information on the 5 minute swim. I've seen more people do front ward floating and less on your back and wasn't positive it could be done
No problem!
I remember the tower back in Class 42, May 1959: There was a regular navy PO 2 or 1 who couldn't jump from the tower. Eventually the instructor climbed up behind him and pushed him off. One of the funny times at Newport.
My favorite was the Buttercup---which my group actually saved.
B Newman, LT(USNR, ret)
Thanks for sharing!
Lol this is great. Everything yur describing i went through in bootcamp look long forward to going through it for OCS 💪🏾
Heck yeah!
I'm actually looking forward to this part, might even take a nap during the float. If you guys struggle with the float try to focus on your hips and head. tilt your head back to keep that heavy brain in the water and thrust your hips up to the surface to avoid your lower half sinking.
Good tips!
Really informative videos! One thing I would like to hear is an hour by hour schedule for each phase of OCS. Thank you!
Happy to help! Unfortunately, there isn't a set hour-by-hour schedule of each day of each phase of training. The plan of the day is different every day.
@@Mollyloveblue Almost like they're teaching us to be ready for anything haha thanks
@@myanriles3185 exactly, lol
Searched becoming naval officer and found this, Im coming from Hawaii too, decided yesterday to pursue Naval OCS after Air Force rejected my medical waiver due to my vision. I got lasik so Im hoping Navy SG accepts me. Thanks for this information
That's great that you're pursuing navy ocs! From meeting with a recruiter for the first time to commissioning from ocs took about a year for me. Depending on selection board cycles, your time could be shorter! Best of luck.
Thanks for the vid! I’ve been practicing my dead man float but hearing you can float on your back is great cause I find it much easier. Do they give out goggles at OCS or is everything done without them?
Happy to help!! You will not use goggles at OCS.
Thanks for the videos, they’re super helpful! I have a question about the second swim qual you referenced at the beginning of the video. Do you know if that’s the one where you have to swim a mile in a flight suit? That’s the only aviation swim qual I was aware of and I’d love to be able to knock it out at OCS if possible. Any info you have would be helpful, thanks!!
The first swim qual is the third class one, and that's what this video is about. But there's also a first class swim qual which is not the same thing as the one where you swim a mile in a flight suit. That one can only be done in flight school.
Thank you for sharing all of this information! I would like to know more about your experience coming from Yale to the Navy. Did you know you were going to commission while at Yale? I'm coming from a similar institution, and when I tell my friends in academia my plan on commissioning, they're either really happy or really disappointed. How did you navigate that?
As long as you can explain your rationale for commissioning (i.e.; maybe you want firsthand experience working with DoD systems, you want a clearance, you want leadership experience, etc, because you aspire to work closely with the DoD after your tour), then most people usually get it. Ivy folks aren't usually expected to go military, but if you aspire to go into government, politics or another related field, it can look pretty good to have prior officer experience. Lots of presidential candidates, senators, and members of congress have some kind of military association.
Great video, just like the previous ones. Question - are those swim evolutions scored in any way or is it just a pass/fail kinda thing? Also, regarding the actual swim (second part of the second part), is it just the length of the L-shaped pool once, or is it a longer distance swim?
Happy to help! The whole thing is just pass/fail. For the second part of the second part (where you swim with the inflated coveralls), it's a substantially shorter swim.
@@Mollyloveblue Thank you! Hopefully one more video within the next 2.5 weeks :)
@@14bommerlunder I'll do my best!!!
Thanks
Happy to help!
So when you jump in I’m assuming you must take your trousers off and tie knots in the legs otherwise nothing will trap air. So do you need to keep afloat by only using your legs doing some egg beater kicks? If so, I’ll def practice that because I’ve always struggled. Thanks :)
You will not have to remove your pt gear. The part that involves the removal of clothing is when you're wearing coveralls during the part where you do trap the air. Yes, you will kick your legs as you slap the water or blow into them to trap air in your coveralls.
Hi, I'm headed to ODS soon. A tab bit different from OCS but do you think the same option is given for the 5 min float?
The swim qualification will be the same.
It is much more than a tad bit different. ODS is far far easier than OCS-- they're already commissioned officers when they arrive. We saw what ODS students went through, and would laugh at how traumatized they were after going to the sand pit for only 30 minutes 2 or 3 times in their indoc phase. You'll do just fine.
Will they drop you from OCS if you continue to fail swim qualification? Or is it as long as you never give up, you can’t get dropped? I can’t swim btw, but I’m currently trying to learn on my own. I’m trying to get swimming lessons, but covid is preventing me from enrolling.
It's up to ocs leadership. The swim qual is a navy-wide requirement, so you can't commission without it. In theory, you could end up rolling. If you can't take official swim lessons, but still have access to water shallow enough to stand up in, I would get in (again, make sure you can stand up in it with your head out of the water), and start practicing some of the swim options and 5 minute float on your own. You can google the different authorized swim strokes. If you don't have access to water to practice in, then just remember that some days, instead of PT, you'll just go to the pool. That means you'll have over 10 weeks of free swim lessons, plus, get out of morning PT a few times.
Can you go over the last part of the swim Qual? With the overalls? How does someone stay afloat while trying to fill the overalls with your air?
You "slap" the air into the coveralls while also kicking your legs to stay afloat. The coveralls fill with air pretty quickly.
It would be a good idea to know how to swim if you join the Navy.
I agree. It's not a complete requirement, because they will teach you if you need it, but better to not add yet another thing to your plate while at OCS.
Thanks for all of the info! I have a question I was wondering if you could help me with. When exactly do you choose your rate, and what exactly are your options? I will be contacting my local recruiter soon but thought it would be helpful if I were to know as much as possible.
Hello! Happy to help :)
In the Navy, for officers, you choose a specific designator ("job") and then apply only to that one (unless you want to apply to multiple). You do not go to OCS until you've been selected for a designator, and you accept that designator. Your application gets sent to a board for that community, and then they select you for the job (or not). Now, you can apply to multiple designators, but hopefully they're all at least in the same community (i.e.; you apply for NFO and SNA--both in aviation, or to CW and INTEL--both in IWC), because each community board meets at different times. Your options are limited by whatever requirements there are for the designator(s) you're (potentially) interested in. For example, to go to flight school, regardless of NFO vs SNA, you have certain height requirements, as well as a minimum/competitive score on the OAR, and specific requirements regarding what degree type they expect out of an aviator. Same for other communities. Note that if you apply for and you're accepted to multiple designators, you will have to make a choice within a few days. OCS has new classes every 3 weeks, but with the pan de mic, classes are smaller, and folks have to quarantine for 2 weeks prior to attendance. Hopefully by 2021, this won't be the case anymore. But you'll have to choose, and then you'll have to wait to class up.
You can check the navy website for general requirements (such as what the GPA threshold is, and what sort of degree you need for the designator you're applying to), but then you'll want to do some googling of things like, "naval flight officer minimum OAR score" or "information professional minimum GPA".
Ex1: www.usna.edu/CyberCenter/_files/documents/idc/1820_IP_Community_Info_Sheet_Jan12.pdf
Ex2: www.navycs.com/officer/flightofficer.html
Ex3: www.navycs.com/officer/surfacewarfare.html
Ex4: www.navycs.com/officer/specialwarfare.html
Best of luck!
@@Mollyloveblue Thank you SO much for the info! This was very helpful. I was under the impression that everyone went to OCS for SWO and from there you could choose a different career path. I'm gonna start looking into some others now as well.
@@dynomax9961 Oh goodness, I wouldn't have joined if I didn't know which designator I'd get. One of the perks of being a naval officer. Happy to help! Best of luck!
I was checking on PT test-related issues and wanted to ask about push ups. I've read that you cannot sag your back or be in any rest position other than the front leaning and going to any other position ends the test. Is this true?
Not only can you not have your booty ("2 pack") sag, but at OCS, you also may not rest in the forward-leaning sort of downwars dog position. Too much sagging or lifting of your 2 pack will end the test.
@@Mollyloveblue Lol love the "2 pack". Thank you very much for the response, that helps tremendously
@@r.e.8809 happy to help!
Do we have to bring swimming trunks for this?
Females will have to wear a black or navy blue one piece, but the guys will just wear PT shorts.
So swimming is part of the OCS too? Thnx
Yes!
What week do you do the swim quals
I believe it's during the second week, but that may have changed since I went.
Are you allowed to wear a sports bra with your swim suit if it makes you more comfortable?
I don't know if that's technically within regulations, but I can guarantee no one is gonna be checking under your swimsuit. Just make sure it matches the color of the suit.
Do you know how deep the pool is?
It's 12 feet where you'll do the swim qual.
Im a third class swimmer from navy bootcamp would i need to swim again at OCS?
Yes, you must re qualify as an officer
@@Mollyloveblue wow alright it should be a breeze since I know what to expect. Thank you hun. I plan on going the officer route.
@@Mollyloveblue hey what's your email?
@@Mollyloveblue what's your email?
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So are you a Navy officer now?
I did commission, yes.