I ordered a kit from this company in 2004. I dug the hole(Kubota tractor) and installed the panels and all plumbing by myself. Hired a pool guy to carve out the final few inches of dirt and then trowel the cement bottom. Total cost for electric, plumbing concrete and decking was under 10K. We sold the home in 2010 and the owners now are still enjoying the pool after a few liner replacements over the years.
Bought my pool from pool warehouse 3 weeks ago. In 2 days I dug the hole put all the walls and steps together and poured the collar, with my son as a helper. Its super easy kit that is well made. . I over dug mine 4 inches and used 1500psi flowable fill , its much easier than mixing bags, and stronger. The cheapest quote i got was $28,000. So far i have $6,600 in the kit and concrete. Looks like another $3,000 in the concrete deck and gravel. Its a fun and easy kit
I am from UK Congratulations on savings. That shows... I burnt my fingers and the pockets. Now doing my mini pool and spa and I am in my 80 s. . All thanks to the help from You Tubers. Please take time to answer the question as it is frustrating when they don't answer the query. I think it would be great if you could upload your creation. I will be the first subscriber. I was pleasantly surprised to receive quick response from "my homemade diy projects". Kudos to him
Bought my kit from PW. Built it as a father / son project with my 15 year old son. received my lagoon pool kit and began work. Had to deal with 93 days of rain over the course of a year. Had to continuously pump out the hole. Experienced major washout of our clay soil. Probably hauled out 500 buckets of dirt from the bottom all together. It took 3 days of dry weather to get it dry enough to work, problem is it rained more often than that! Finally got her done! One year and 3 days after we dug it, we were finally swimming in it. MAKE NO MISTAKE.....THIS PROJECT IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART, OR ANYONE WHO HAS LIMITED TIME ON THIER HANDS. Because believe me....you are at the mercy of the weather.
That makes my custom built in pool sound like a flash. We are almost done and should be completely usable inside 8 weeks. Im guessing my rebar guy was cheaper than the steal frame thing. Pretty interesting though. 🤔🤠
Best video by far on installing a Vinyl pool! It all made sense and watching the layout with al the measurements was really informative! Can't praise you enough for how great, to the point, and easy to understand your instructions were!! Thank you so much!
Currently installing one of these myself. I can honestly say that the excavation is the toughest part so far. The shelf was easy, and our soil was very nice. But the deep end has been a bear. We hit sandstone at about 5-6 feet down. So 2-3 feet of the hopper has been a pain. FYI, if you are in an area where construction is booming, it's hard to find a reputable and experienced excavation company that is willing to come dig it for you. If you don't have a big crew and cannot get it all dug in a day or so, then rain will affect everything about this process. I would say that the only benefit to hiring someone to put one of these in for you is if they have already learned all of the little tricks and techniques and if they have dedicated time and crew to get the phases done quickly. I'm saving about $15k in total from the cheapest quote that I received AND I am controlling the quality. Many of the pools that I have seen built by "pool companies" have all types of issues.
@@rubenscott3972 ive built pools with my boss (who has been building for 31 years now) and he subs for a company we build about 45 to 50 a year. we live in ohio so the winter shuts us down. yes we build them fast but our pools we build always hold up and never have a issue.
I've maintained a pool for 20 years that was built prior to my acquisition of a property. I feel like I understand a little, but your video was great - explaining things I never knew about the pool, AND feeling much more appreciation for the skills involved with installation. I look forward to speaking with you about a purchase and hope we can do business. THANK YOU for the excellent video.
Guys, great company with great support so far...I’m 75% through my 18 x 36 mountain loch install...I got the metal steps and I have to say to help your customers please give a good way to backfill the steps. I’m cutting 1.5” holes in the treads to fill them with mortar...there is no way to force material up and fill the air space under the treads and if you don’t fill it you get a terrible flimsy feeling step. This step option is so cool and I imagine many customers buy it so a good focus segment on them would be extremely helpful.
@nathanielMoore Do you have photos of your process? I agree. I want the Mountain Loch with walk in steps/tanning ledge but concerned about the install. Thanks!
I don’t have pics up anywhere yet but if you want those steps I recommend investigating open pour top option...this way the stair treads have no top and you can pour your own...eliminating the step of slowly filling them from holes drilled afterwards.
My in ground pool is relatively small. It has a hatch and 4' pipe on each end of it and it's attached to my sewer pipe for some reason. Waters always warm though. 👍
18:35 what is the purpose of these exact measurements? Is it to get the right shape of the pool so the liner fits? Wouldn't the metal siding , when bolted together, already have the right shape?
Great sales pitch guys, you have build quite a practical observer knowledge of the process; a quick note I'd share with you (perhaps for your next vide) is that the DIY folks of the world need to see details; without those it just feels like a used car salesman talk, no deep mechanic advice, nor practical base coaching. Just my opinion. Best of luck.
WOW great video now all the weekend warriors will actually feel confident enough to pull it off you guys were very clear and thorough which increases the confidence of doing this very large homeowner project Hey get the kids as helpers and have at it and make it FUN its just a step by step process it has to get finished sooner than later also GREAT SUPPORT with HELP #s to talk to pro shop if need be see you soon im going for it KV
Well, if you look it up, a lot of these DIY in ground pools are not actually DIY! I've noticed that a majority of these sites actually refer to owner-builder pools where the owner of the house is actually the general contractor for pool build, where the owner hires subcontractors to do each step and not do much or any of the work themselves. The owner is a part of every step, but they just manage and oversee the entire project. Which, believe a majority of people looking for DIY pools, they are really looking for projects that they can actually build themselves, without having to hire anyone else.
@housebrokecarpenter6584 Just because it's not easy to diy something doesn't mean that it can't be diy. It all depends on your skill level. I built a house entirely by myself and it took me 8 months instead of the 4-5 months that a builder would have done it in. Now with the savings I'm putting in an pool and am going to do it all myself too.
Great job thinking about tackling on the project at my house my wife is looking at me wondering I think I can do it with the help of you guys and your tech-support once again thank you
Very interesting and maybe the process has changed but I'm having my pool done now. Vermiculite was done along with the liner installed filled about 1/2 way before the backfill is being done. They tell me they need water in the pool before backfit so the walls don't collapse or shift inwards as the water helps even the pressure. We have clay like dirt for backfill and weren't given the option of using stone like you did (great idea) and would probably eliminate waiting 4-5 weeks to have concrete poured after settling all that time. Thanks for the video.
@@Taipans we had concrete about 2 feet high around the pool. Then dirt backfill then we get concrete over that. Company is telling us it needs to settle for 8 weeks. I call BS.
Built pools like this in the early 2000s in Oklahoma. We never “bonded” the walls. Just grounded at filter system. This must be a new system. And we pumped the floors (residential). I would have quit within a week if I had to hand carry all that
Quick question. Back fill with #57 gravel? Anyone local to me is not sure what that is. Looking online it says 1/2" to 1" crushed granite, limestone, natural stone or even made from crushed concrete. What material should this be I have lots of limestone available and they say it sounds like their 6AA is what they are calling that approximate size
Good video but you left out an important part…..bonding the pool deck. You did an excellent job of showing us how to bond the pool, but I feel like showing how the concrete rebar gets tied into the bonding grid is equally important. I’m not an expert on bonding but without tying in the concrete rebar, stray voltage can cause a shock when in the pool and reaching out to put your hands on the deck.
They completely skipped past pouring the deck. Probably because they couldn't get permission from the sub contractor to film it. Regardless, it would've been the sub contractor that poured the deck to provide correct grounding. Even so, they should've at least covered this important step in the video. Even if they couldn't film it, they could've at least talked about it. But yeah... *VERY* important point that was left out.
I just bought my 24x44 rectangular pool with 9 foot slide and diving board. The only part of this that intimidates me is shaping the pool for the second dig. I wish you had spent more time on the excavating. I would have watched a 4 hour video on just that part to see the whole process.
@@alinaqvi9228 It could have been doable if I would have spent more time on finding the excavator. I picked a 5 star reviewed one but their experience was with basements. I ended up with a giant mud hole that if we had gone a few more feet would have disturbed too much earth and meant I couldn't put the pool in (undisturbed earth is important). On top of that there was more ground water at 8 feet than I had counted on. The hole just kept oozing. I ended up calling a few pool people and begging them for help. One installed it for $13,000. His concrete guy saved me $13,000 from the one I had lined up because I had him do a patio and widen my driveway. I ended up breaking even over doing it myself. I honestly think the job became more than he realized himself and I am not sure he would have taken it knowing that. He complained a lot about the kit over the kits he uses. If it weren't for this pool installer taking sympathy on me this would have been a complete disaster. As it turns out their is one excavator in our area that all the pool guys use. He can take the pool print and dig the hole with in inches. Had I stumbled on him things may have been different as I also had a vermiculite guy lined up. He ended up refilling part of the hole and re-digging it. In the end I would say all I was out was $3500 from the first excavator. He felt like a mafia type and I didn't want the trouble of not paying him. My advice is that this is too big of a pool for you to do yourself. If you are thinking about a 10x20 or something smaller its possible. The sheer size of the hole you will end up with is very intimidating and too much for 1 or 2 people that don't know what they are doing. Even if you do get it installed imagine what happens when the floor drain leaks because you didn't brace the pipe or put enough glue. I don't know what I was thinking. Overall it is a great pool kit and we have the slide, heater, large pump and fountains. It is more pool than I would have done if I hadn't bought the pieces myself, but I wouldn't attempt this again.
@@japerelectronics2568 thank you so much for this valuable information. I have heard similar from others that excavation is the most important part. I am planning on sub-contracting many aspects of the build and actively looking for specific subs in the area. I am in Minneapolis area and thus it’s hard to find pool specialists as pools are not too trendy here in the Midwest. I thank you for taking the time to reply. Much appreciated. One last question; aside from the kit cost; in your experience what does the build cost with basic decking.
@@alinaqvi9228 I didn't track it as well as I should have because in all honesty I didn't want to know the final total. If I had to estimate I would say plan on $4,000 for excavating, $1,000 for gravel if they hit ground water (best to have it onsite), $1,500 for the concrete around the pool walls (I was surprised how little the concrete guy actually used, I was picturing a foundation), $1,000 for pea gravel to put around the entire over dig (highly recommended over sand or dirt for drainage), $7,000 for decking, $3,000 in electrical, $1,500 in gas work if you have a heater and $4,000 for landscaping to smooth it all out with top soil and hydroseed it. Don't even bother with this pool if you don't get a 250k BTU heater. You might need your gas company to upgrade the meter to use it which is around $800. It increases temp about 1 degree F per hour and the pool would be unusable before July and after August without it. I run it the morning we are going to swim and it costs me about 80 a month in gas in September in Michigan. We use the pool from May to October. Maintenance isn't too bad. It is $250 to close it and $250 to open it (I open it myself but I pay someone to close it because I don't want it to freeze and break a pipe). I would say its about $100 in chemicals a month and if you get a variable speed pump about $50 in electricity a month. Because it holds the water all year its very little in water costs but if you do the initial fill from a sprinkler line (they don't charge sewer) its less than $100 to fill. Make sure you buy the largest filter and pump.
Awesome work guys what does something like that cost, been shopping for a pool and trying to get some ideas of cost. Im seeing kits online from 7-8k but I know that doesn't include anything but the pool liner and framework etc.
More than likely…not gonna happen. If you do not include upgrades like robotic vacuum, lights, salt system, your total cost of kit will be around 16k for 42 inch panels. That won’t include back fill and pool floor grading, concrete, electrical work, permit costs, gate cost, and rental costs if you do not own excavation equipment. I ordered 20 x 40 48 inch walls and my price was 18k…I’m looking at a total cost under $30k. Also noted we own excavation equipment.
Yes you can been doing pools for 33yrs he said he paid 18 for kit thats because its one of the biggest pools you can put in he said 20x40 and his walls was 48 inches thats a huge pool build a 18 x36 with 40 inch walls save yourself 10,ooo can do it for 18 total if I do it all my self
good evening before anything your videos are very helpful and very well explain... i have question... we are in the process installing our pool they did the scabation and put together the metal frame... my husband ordered a 16×32 with diving board,,, can i still change the depth of it?
You would need to purchase a new liner for sure but it might be possible. You would need to call customer service. Please make sure to have your order number handy.
How much gravel do you need on an lagoon pool 20x42x31. We just learned that most builders dont use gravel to compact the soil and the walls can cave in. Thanks in advance
I've seen people use a transit to set concrete blocks and then they set the walls on top of them. What do you recommend? There are no videos of setting the walls and keeping them level on a linear. What can you shim them with? In this video Jones says you can add or remove dirt, what's best?
Can you post the year this was built and an itemized total cost for: kit, concrete below grade, gravel, pool wall material, concrete deck. Thank you very much.
So the entire pool is grounded through the handles on the metal ladder(s) after the liner and pad are installed since none of the metal should come in contact with the pool water if everything is done right? (Unless grounding through the skimmers as mentioned for code compliance)
I have a question. Is it possible to build the pool with the same metal frame, however, to install it on the concrete surface? Just I need an above-ground swim pool 32 x 16 x 48, however, to install it on the concrete surface. Will the walls hold the weight of the water, not in the ground?
This pool is not meant for above ground use. Please check out our Semi-Above Ground pools here: www.poolwarehouse.com/product-category/semi-inground-pool-kits/
Great video! Is the pump and filter included in your pool kit price? I am currently building one on your site and I don’t see the step that asks what pump you want. I see it in the accessories section. Thanks!
Hi Nick, a pump and filter are included in the base price! However you can select a different pump, use this link to quote your pool kit and even get an emailed copy of your quote! Pick a shape and then select, build quote: www.poolwarehouse.com/inground-pool-kits/
In my area, a 16x32 inground starting cost is $55K. Crazy! My husband is thinking about tackling this project himself next spring. I'd like to get an excavator in to dig the hole. Once that is done, how long does it actually take to get the entire pool installed if there are only 1-3 people??? He did an above ground pool, but this seems much more overwhelming to me, not him. LOL
Were putting in a 16x32, the digging isnt bad but you will need a place to put the dirt, it's a big hole. Hopefully you won't hit rock....but if your husband has some common sense, he should be able to do it. It is expensive, concrete and all plus excavators charge 100.00 plus an hour.
I live in Pa northwest of Harrisburg...clay and shale plus limestone in the ground, dug hole myself, rented equipment, the most expensive part of this project (after buying pool kit,) will be the conkrete.
If the hole is dug, and now you have to assemble the pool and there are three people..........I am guessing 2 to 3 days. If your at it full time I think it would be less. Not hard to assemble the pool,
When digging be careful if you’re water table is high, I build pools for a living and we constantly need to pump them out to do the bottoms. But building them isn’t too bad with 2-3 knowledgeable people.
@@andre_bella Hi. I bailed on Pool Warehouse. The support just wasn’t there. I also spoke to many contractors who wouldn’t touch vinyl in AZ because they said it doesn’t last. I ended up going with a BYOP company and saved a ton. If you want to DM me, I can get you the details.
I bought the pool warehouse and I live in Arizona Lake Havasu City I have not found people to install for me, can you recommend me who will install it please thank you .
Ok, because I am impatient. I decided to figure out my own question. The setup for the transit looked a lot like a water level concept. Sure enough, this appears to be a Ziplevel PRO 2000 Altimeter. Hope this helps anyone else who may have been wondering the same.
Building one of these pools right now. Bought the Ziplevel transit. That thing is a life saver, other than mine has proven to overheat in direct sunlight and 95 degree temperatures pretty fast. Called the company and they are going to replace mine.
I hadn't seen those before. Looks similar to the water levels they use here to level mobile homes. I've always used a laser. The laser is a little more laborious because it only tells you whether you're level, you have to measure depth manually.
@@SwimmingPoolKit i haven't talked to a pool contractor yet, there are a few good ones in my area. My biggest concern is, there use to be a vinyl liner in ground pool 15 years ago. It was demolished before we bought house. Worried it will be an issue installing on previously distributed ground.
I have watched about 200 hours of videos and lots of people leave the plumbing side out of it...but my guess the diagram of the plumbing may come with diagram or directions...I actually order new skid steer and mini excavator from bobcat company...I am a want to do it all kind of person and in my area is really hard to find people that A. Affordable B. Don't want to rush throughout the job etc. I believe this is the best option because you can order all from the same place, made in USA and it comes with support...not sure how good the support but sometimes simple questions are the hardest to find in the web. My only question I have for the pool warehouse team is if they help you with best practice on the pool measurements vs. your existing patio or yard available space. Also what is the perhaps basic rule of thumb when it comes to pool leveling vs. terrace existing floor? meaning could it be under or must be level or equal terrace high...or it does not really matter? last what will be a good set back to sides and back fence to be standard on must states? I am not planning to ask for a single permit. :( thank you for reading in advance
@@markroberts362 You only live once...you can choose to pay away or do it yourself...I have built my home from the ground up...I must be stupid yes. But guess what when I am old seating in a park feeding the pigeon I will have a lots of memories to go back to and enjoy my last years on this earth God willing with pride and joy...what is the point to pay away all your live. All I have is been either created by me or done by me,,,including my companies. I value and respect your opinion and perhaps to some degree you are correct but all I have is because I am stupid or perhaps not ordinary/conventional person. Hope I have answer your question
I have a sand bottom pool. our liner tore over the winter. after removing the old linger we found the pool had rocks in the sand. Large and medium rounded rocks. My husband is thinking this is normal and that the sand that came off the top revealed what was used to fill in the area. Common sense tells me those rocks will protrude over time and we will have a ripped liner after a year or 2 of ground settlement. Should we remove them all or go with my husband suggestion of leaving the rocks and piling sand on top of them?
@Scott Daniel Good to know. My wife is going to make me build her one this summer. She already decided on the polymer. She might be smarter than me. Lol
I wanted to go with polymer bc we wanted saltwater system but the polymer only had 42 inch walls. We decided on steel walls that are 48 inch. I’ve read to install a sacrificial anode and also dropping zinc anodes into the skimmers. I think with proper maintenance(water chemistry and bonding), the walls will not suffer damage.
I have a Pentair Triton ll TR100C fiberglass sand filter and can not the closer loose to replace the air bleeder ass,y which is screwed to the bottom of the closer. I have broken 2 wrenches attempting loosen the closer. I have tried smothering the entire ass,y in ice for over 1 hour and pouring coke over it, which I was told by so-called experts that would loosen it up!!!! Forget it so far nothing has worked. Anybody have any other suggestions other than buying a NEW FILTER? Bill F
So where did the flat white coping go? I see the curved cement edge, can't image it is on the coping because it would be thin on the pool side of the coping. Anyone understand this? I thought the cement met the coping and the coping was visible. That is how my last pool was.
So what I see other then the steel at top of the pool the cement on the dirt is the same way the two guys do it on primitive technology. Nothing really. Changes I guess
My 24750 gallon lagoon with cozy cove Jacuzzi seat, upgraded pump, salt system, and larger DE filter upgrade with cantilever coping , and 2" plumbing with 2 Aqua Genie skimmers and floor drains was just over $13k delivered.
Mine was $21,000 for a 24x44 rectangular with deep end, diving board, 9 foot slide, 350k BTU heater and their best variable speed pump. I had quotes of $50,000 to have a 20x40 with no extras professionally installed. I assume the one I just bought would have been 70-80k.
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I ordered a kit from this company in 2004. I dug the hole(Kubota tractor) and installed the panels and all plumbing by myself. Hired a pool guy to carve out the final few inches of dirt and then trowel the cement bottom. Total cost for electric, plumbing concrete and decking was under 10K. We sold the home in 2010 and the owners now are still enjoying the pool after a few liner replacements over the years.
We're so happy to hear your story, thank you for sharing that with us!!
How many liner replacements over the last 20 years?
Bought my pool from pool warehouse 3 weeks ago. In 2 days I dug the hole put all the walls and steps together and poured the collar, with my son as a helper. Its super easy kit that is well made. . I over dug mine 4 inches and used 1500psi flowable fill , its much easier than mixing bags, and stronger. The cheapest quote i got was $28,000. So far i have $6,600 in the kit and concrete. Looks like another $3,000 in the concrete deck and gravel. Its a fun and easy kit
How did you bond the pool?
What size did you build?
I am from UK Congratulations on savings. That shows... I burnt my fingers and the pockets. Now doing my mini pool and spa and I am in my 80 s. . All thanks to the help from You Tubers. Please take time to answer the question as it is frustrating when they don't answer the query. I think it would be great if you could upload your creation. I will be the first subscriber. I was pleasantly surprised to receive quick response from "my homemade diy projects". Kudos to him
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Bought my kit from PW. Built it as a father / son project with my 15 year old son. received my lagoon pool kit and began work. Had to deal with 93 days of rain over the course of a year. Had to continuously pump out the hole. Experienced major washout of our clay soil. Probably hauled out 500 buckets of dirt from the bottom all together. It took 3 days of dry weather to get it dry enough to work, problem is it rained more often than that! Finally got her done! One year and 3 days after we dug it, we were finally swimming in it. MAKE NO MISTAKE.....THIS PROJECT IS NOT FOR THE FAINT OF HEART, OR ANYONE WHO HAS LIMITED TIME ON THIER HANDS. Because believe me....you are at the mercy of the weather.
Bob Dixon awesome bob. Do you have pics or a video?
was the liner ok after that long ,i have same issue almost ready for liner install now.
That makes my custom built in pool sound like a flash. We are almost done and should be completely usable inside 8 weeks. Im guessing my rebar guy was cheaper than the steal frame thing. Pretty interesting though. 🤔🤠
Best video by far on installing a Vinyl pool! It all made sense and watching the layout with al the measurements was really informative! Can't praise you enough for how great, to the point, and easy to understand your instructions were!! Thank you so much!
Great video. I would like to see the plumbing procedure for the main drains.
Thanks for this video guys, I've watched it like 27 times 😜, as I'm now installing our own pool.
Have you started yet because I want to start mind but I’m scared. Can you tell me?
Did either of you start yours? I’m thinking of buying one but I’m a little nervous!
MA Chiropractic & Rehab yes we have completed it already. It was a good bit of work but worth it in the end.
Roger Bean what was your total cost for pool and all associated equipment?
@@corevaluesinvestmentgroup8940 I believe somewhere around 31k. Thats a 20 x40 , 8' deep with steps all the way across the shallow end
Very informative and well produced. Very heavy This Old House vibes.
I built pools in the 80's and 90's. We used to dig and finish the bottom, then measure it and order the liner. Simple and easy.
Congratulations with you guys on your successful company, this video was nothing short of excellent!!
Currently installing one of these myself. I can honestly say that the excavation is the toughest part so far. The shelf was easy, and our soil was very nice. But the deep end has been a bear. We hit sandstone at about 5-6 feet down. So 2-3 feet of the hopper has been a pain. FYI, if you are in an area where construction is booming, it's hard to find a reputable and experienced excavation company that is willing to come dig it for you. If you don't have a big crew and cannot get it all dug in a day or so, then rain will affect everything about this process. I would say that the only benefit to hiring someone to put one of these in for you is if they have already learned all of the little tricks and techniques and if they have dedicated time and crew to get the phases done quickly. I'm saving about $15k in total from the cheapest quote that I received AND I am controlling the quality. Many of the pools that I have seen built by "pool companies" have all types of issues.
Yea there all build in a hurry that’s why
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@@rubenscott3972 ive built pools with my boss (who has been building for 31 years now) and he subs for a company we build about 45 to 50 a year. we live in ohio so the winter shuts us down. yes we build them fast but our pools we build always hold up and never have a issue.
It's three years later.... how'd it turn out?
How much do you need to dig if you use 52 inch walls is it still 42” or you have to dig more?
I've maintained a pool for 20 years that was built prior to my acquisition of a property. I feel like I understand a little, but your video was great - explaining things I never knew about the pool, AND feeling much more appreciation for the skills involved with installation. I look forward to speaking with you about a purchase and hope we can do business. THANK YOU for the excellent video.
I have a feeling you guys are going to hear from us REAL SOON: GREAT VIDEO!
Guys, great company with great support so far...I’m 75% through my 18 x 36 mountain loch install...I got the metal steps and I have to say to help your customers please give a good way to backfill the steps. I’m cutting 1.5” holes in the treads to fill them with mortar...there is no way to force material up and fill the air space under the treads and if you don’t fill it you get a terrible flimsy feeling step. This step option is so cool and I imagine many customers buy it so a good focus segment on them would be extremely helpful.
@nathanielMoore Do you have photos of your process? I agree. I want the Mountain Loch with walk in steps/tanning ledge but concerned about the install. Thanks!
I don’t have pics up anywhere yet but if you want those steps I recommend investigating open pour top option...this way the stair treads have no top and you can pour your own...eliminating the step of slowly filling them from holes drilled afterwards.
I appreciated the informative video. Do you guys have any suggestions or videos on how to put in a pool with a sloped back yard?
Hi Tiffany, we have our semi-inground pool video releasing next month!
My in ground pool is relatively small. It has a hatch and 4' pipe on each end of it and it's attached to my sewer pipe for some reason. Waters always warm though. 👍
18:35 what is the purpose of these exact measurements? Is it to get the right shape of the pool so the liner fits? Wouldn't the metal siding , when bolted together, already have the right shape?
No it wouldnt
For the depth of the grade. The measurements allow you to get the grade at each measurement where it should be to fit the custom liner
Great sales pitch guys, you have build quite a practical observer knowledge of the process; a quick note I'd share with you (perhaps for your next vide) is that the DIY folks of the world need to see details; without those it just feels like a used car salesman talk, no deep mechanic advice, nor practical base coaching. Just my opinion. Best of luck.
This is really amazing! Great video. Thumbs up. Thank you!
Quick question, when plumbing the returns do they connect with threaded pipe and dough?
This was a very good program very informative thank you
Great video! But I disagree at 22:18 rectangular pools are a lot better they give you more space to swim, and can look just as stunning.
Not based on a perimeter length measurement. An oval pool gives you more square footage than a rectangle of the same perimeter length. Simple math.
WOW great video now all the weekend warriors will actually feel confident enough to pull it off you guys were very clear and thorough
which increases the confidence of doing this very large homeowner project Hey get the kids as helpers and have at it and make it FUN
its just a step by step process it has to get finished sooner than later also GREAT SUPPORT with HELP #s to talk to pro shop if need be
see you soon im going for it KV
By the looks of it this would take a homeowner and grandson about a month to install since you actually have a crew there.
Well, if you look it up, a lot of these DIY in ground pools are not actually DIY! I've noticed that a majority of these sites actually refer to owner-builder pools where the owner of the house is actually the general contractor for pool build, where the owner hires subcontractors to do each step and not do much or any of the work themselves. The owner is a part of every step, but they just manage and oversee the entire project. Which, believe a majority of people looking for DIY pools, they are really looking for projects that they can actually build themselves, without having to hire anyone else.
Exactly, so change the title and thumbnail to “unless your a general contractor, don’t buy this pool!!
Try two or three. I got four people and we are a month in at the plumbing and concrete floor stage
@@grahamhancock49042 weeks in, almost ready for the liner!
@housebrokecarpenter6584 Just because it's not easy to diy something doesn't mean that it can't be diy. It all depends on your skill level. I built a house entirely by myself and it took me 8 months instead of the 4-5 months that a builder would have done it in. Now with the savings I'm putting in an pool and am going to do it all myself too.
Great job thinking about tackling on the project at my house my wife is looking at me wondering I think I can do it with the help of you guys and your tech-support once again thank you
I'm a a wife thinking the same thing about my husband. LOL
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Excellent video guys! Thank you! 😁
Very interesting and maybe the process has changed but I'm having my pool done now. Vermiculite was done along with the liner installed filled about 1/2 way before the backfill is being done. They tell me they need water in the pool before backfit so the walls don't collapse or shift inwards as the water helps even the pressure. We have clay like dirt for backfill and weren't given the option of using stone like you did (great idea) and would probably eliminate waiting 4-5 weeks to have concrete poured after settling all that time. Thanks for the video.
You had concrete backfill?
@@Taipans we had concrete about 2 feet high around the pool. Then dirt backfill then we get concrete over that. Company is telling us it needs to settle for 8 weeks. I call BS.
@@GRJCLyon definitely needs to settle
HOW CAN I GET ONE OF THOSE WITH A SLIDE AND A DRIVING BOARD PLUS SOME LIFE GURIDS
Can y’all do a video on how to measure pools with liner over steel rounded sunshelfs and stuff like that?
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Built pools like this in the early 2000s in Oklahoma. We never “bonded” the walls. Just grounded at filter system. This must be a new system. And we pumped the floors (residential). I would have quit within a week if I had to hand carry all that
You 100% need to bond the pool walls, coping etc. Please hire a licensed electrician to handle all the Grounding and Bonding of your pool.
Will you come help build my pool??
Please Rodney I like to have it done by May the 1st.I will pay for your hotel, plane ticket, rent a car and food
@@amandaguzman1949 Everyone is booked out a year now on all pool installs. Thanks to Covid, as everyone got bored and started buying them... lol
What’s the price difference from this option compared to the traditional full concrete pool build?
the difference between that steel frame vs concrete and steel rebar is probably the exact same if not cheaper.
I have installed many of those, with Mark weeks Baltimore
Can you help install mind? i will pay you
Is a simple rectangle pool easier for a DIY person?
100%
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What kind of sandbag is that or the material that keeps the sandbag from leaking sand? The blue material looks very tough. Anyone know?
Quick question. Back fill with #57 gravel? Anyone local to me is not sure what that is. Looking online it says 1/2" to 1" crushed granite, limestone, natural stone or even made from crushed concrete. What material should this be I have lots of limestone available and they say it sounds like their 6AA is what they are calling that approximate size
Hi Jeff, consider using 3/4" Clean gravel (no lime dust) or any Clean gravel from 3/8" to 3/4"
Good video but you left out an important part…..bonding the pool deck. You did an excellent job of showing us how to bond the pool, but I feel like showing how the concrete rebar gets tied into the bonding grid is equally important. I’m not an expert on bonding but without tying in the concrete rebar, stray voltage can cause a shock when in the pool and reaching out to put your hands on the deck.
They completely skipped past pouring the deck. Probably because they couldn't get permission from the sub contractor to film it. Regardless, it would've been the sub contractor that poured the deck to provide correct grounding. Even so, they should've at least covered this important step in the video. Even if they couldn't film it, they could've at least talked about it. But yeah... *VERY* important point that was left out.
thank you for sharing
I just bought my 24x44 rectangular pool with 9 foot slide and diving board. The only part of this that intimidates me is shaping the pool for the second dig. I wish you had spent more time on the excavating. I would have watched a 4 hour video on just that part to see the whole process.
Hey, just get the deep box lined up and dig that, then gently slope down to it, sides of pool and the breakpoints. Not as hard as it seems.
Hi Japer, I am planning the same size pool. Please do tell how was your experience.
@@alinaqvi9228 It could have been doable if I would have spent more time on finding the excavator. I picked a 5 star reviewed one but their experience was with basements. I ended up with a giant mud hole that if we had gone a few more feet would have disturbed too much earth and meant I couldn't put the pool in (undisturbed earth is important). On top of that there was more ground water at 8 feet than I had counted on. The hole just kept oozing. I ended up calling a few pool people and begging them for help. One installed it for $13,000. His concrete guy saved me $13,000 from the one I had lined up because I had him do a patio and widen my driveway. I ended up breaking even over doing it myself. I honestly think the job became more than he realized himself and I am not sure he would have taken it knowing that. He complained a lot about the kit over the kits he uses.
If it weren't for this pool installer taking sympathy on me this would have been a complete disaster. As it turns out their is one excavator in our area that all the pool guys use. He can take the pool print and dig the hole with in inches. Had I stumbled on him things may have been different as I also had a vermiculite guy lined up. He ended up refilling part of the hole and re-digging it. In the end I would say all I was out was $3500 from the first excavator. He felt like a mafia type and I didn't want the trouble of not paying him.
My advice is that this is too big of a pool for you to do yourself. If you are thinking about a 10x20 or something smaller its possible. The sheer size of the hole you will end up with is very intimidating and too much for 1 or 2 people that don't know what they are doing. Even if you do get it installed imagine what happens when the floor drain leaks because you didn't brace the pipe or put enough glue. I don't know what I was thinking.
Overall it is a great pool kit and we have the slide, heater, large pump and fountains. It is more pool than I would have done if I hadn't bought the pieces myself, but I wouldn't attempt this again.
@@japerelectronics2568 thank you so much for this valuable information. I have heard similar from others that excavation is the most important part. I am planning on sub-contracting many aspects of the build and actively looking for specific subs in the area. I am in Minneapolis area and thus it’s hard to find pool specialists as pools are not too trendy here in the Midwest. I thank you for taking the time to reply. Much appreciated. One last question; aside from the kit cost; in your experience what does the build cost with basic decking.
@@alinaqvi9228 I didn't track it as well as I should have because in all honesty I didn't want to know the final total. If I had to estimate I would say plan on $4,000 for excavating, $1,000 for gravel if they hit ground water (best to have it onsite), $1,500 for the concrete around the pool walls (I was surprised how little the concrete guy actually used, I was picturing a foundation), $1,000 for pea gravel to put around the entire over dig (highly recommended over sand or dirt for drainage), $7,000 for decking, $3,000 in electrical, $1,500 in gas work if you have a heater and $4,000 for landscaping to smooth it all out with top soil and hydroseed it. Don't even bother with this pool if you don't get a 250k BTU heater. You might need your gas company to upgrade the meter to use it which is around $800. It increases temp about 1 degree F per hour and the pool would be unusable before July and after August without it. I run it the morning we are going to swim and it costs me about 80 a month in gas in September in Michigan. We use the pool from May to October.
Maintenance isn't too bad. It is $250 to close it and $250 to open it (I open it myself but I pay someone to close it because I don't want it to freeze and break a pipe). I would say its about $100 in chemicals a month and if you get a variable speed pump about $50 in electricity a month. Because it holds the water all year its very little in water costs but if you do the initial fill from a sprinkler line (they don't charge sewer) its less than $100 to fill. Make sure you buy the largest filter and pump.
Awesome work guys what does something like that cost, been shopping for a pool and trying to get some ideas of cost. Im seeing kits online from 7-8k but I know that doesn't include anything but the pool liner and framework etc.
We just put ours in from Pool Warehouse and we will be at 20K with all the extras like concrete, plumbing, backfill, etc.
@@laurenbrooks8762 what’s the size of your pool? Do you have YT videos?
What state are you in. It really depends
I love this and want to put a 20x40 pool but want to finish it around 20 k as it is my max budget. do you guys think it is doable?
probably
More than likely…not gonna happen. If you do not include upgrades like robotic vacuum, lights, salt system, your total cost of kit will be around 16k for 42 inch panels. That won’t include back fill and pool floor grading, concrete, electrical work, permit costs, gate cost, and rental costs if you do not own excavation equipment. I ordered 20 x 40 48 inch walls and my price was 18k…I’m looking at a total cost under $30k. Also noted we own excavation equipment.
Yes you can been doing pools for 33yrs he said he paid 18 for kit thats because its one of the biggest pools you can put in he said 20x40 and his walls was 48 inches thats a huge pool build a 18 x36 with 40 inch walls save yourself 10,ooo can do it for 18 total if I do it all my self
good evening before anything your videos are very helpful and very well explain... i have question...
we are in the process installing our pool they did the scabation and put together the metal frame... my husband ordered a 16×32 with diving board,,, can i still change the depth of it?
You would need to purchase a new liner for sure but it might be possible. You would need to call customer service. Please make sure to have your order number handy.
Yes
How much gravel do you need on an lagoon pool 20x42x31. We just learned that most builders dont use gravel to compact the soil and the walls can cave in. Thanks in advance
I've seen people use a transit to set concrete blocks and then they set the walls on top of them. What do you recommend? There are no videos of setting the walls and keeping them level on a linear. What can you shim them with? In this video Jones says you can add or remove dirt, what's best?
Price for this kit?
What made you pick a sand vs. cartridge filter? I thought sand is outdated.
It is. Go will a cartridge filter
Cost.
Sand you backwash - easy peasy. Cartridges need replacement more often than any chart tells you.
Can you post the year this was built and an itemized total cost for: kit, concrete below grade, gravel, pool wall material, concrete deck. Thank you very much.
So the entire pool is grounded through the handles on the metal ladder(s) after the liner and pad are installed since none of the metal should come in contact with the pool water if everything is done right? (Unless grounding through the skimmers as mentioned for code compliance)
I would have liked to see the actual install of the liner over the steps. I suspect this is one of the most complicated parts of the liner install.
Hi Becky, check out the end of this video: ruclips.net/video/kOwI0H90INo/видео.html
Yes it is ,been doing pools years
Good video
Excellent video
I have a question. Is it possible to build the pool with the same metal frame, however, to install it on the concrete surface? Just I need an above-ground swim pool 32 x 16 x 48, however, to install it on the concrete surface. Will the walls hold the weight of the water, not in the ground?
This pool is not meant for above ground use. Please check out our Semi-Above Ground pools here: www.poolwarehouse.com/product-category/semi-inground-pool-kits/
Great video!
Why aren't you using some kind of rebar in that cement?
Nice job pretty cool! May I add nice looking men, especially the one with the darker hair!! Thx for sharing, I will be sharing this video myself!! 😉
Great video! Is the pump and filter included in your pool kit price? I am currently building one on your site and I don’t see the step that asks what pump you want. I see it in the accessories section. Thanks!
Hi Nick, a pump and filter are included in the base price! However you can select a different pump, use this link to quote your pool kit and even get an emailed copy of your quote! Pick a shape and then select, build quote: www.poolwarehouse.com/inground-pool-kits/
What’s the concrete style that the owners used around this pool? It looks like pavers
This one was done with Stamped and Dyed Concrete!
In my area, a 16x32 inground starting cost is $55K. Crazy! My husband is thinking about tackling this project himself next spring. I'd like to get an excavator in to dig the hole. Once that is done, how long does it actually take to get the entire pool installed if there are only 1-3 people??? He did an above ground pool, but this seems much more overwhelming to me, not him. LOL
Were putting in a 16x32, the digging isnt bad but you will need a place to put the dirt, it's a big hole. Hopefully you won't hit rock....but if your husband has some common sense, he should be able to do it. It is expensive, concrete and all plus excavators charge 100.00 plus an hour.
I live in Pa northwest of Harrisburg...clay and shale plus limestone in the ground, dug hole myself, rented equipment, the most expensive part of this project (after buying pool kit,) will be the conkrete.
Good luck!
If the hole is dug, and now you have to assemble the pool and there are three people..........I am guessing 2 to 3 days. If your at it full time I think it would be less. Not hard to assemble the pool,
When digging be careful if you’re water table is high, I build pools for a living and we constantly need to pump them out to do the bottoms. But building them isn’t too bad with 2-3 knowledgeable people.
Has anyone in Arizona used pool warehouse? Did you have any installation help? Looking for subcontractor help before I go and purchase a kit.
I'm in Arizona, did you ever got help?
@@andre_bella Hi. I bailed on Pool Warehouse. The support just wasn’t there. I also spoke to many contractors who wouldn’t touch vinyl in AZ because they said it doesn’t last. I ended up going with a BYOP company and saved a ton. If you want to DM me, I can get you the details.
@@jarista9844 I can not figure out how to DM you, my email is abella360 at gmail or andredotcom on kik
@@andre_bella ok email sent 👍
@@jarista9844 Thank you! I got it and mail you back :)
Very thorough, but wouldn't this all be easier if the pool was actually really rectangle? I mean, immensely easier
Cool system
Can a person use pebble tec finishing for pools blown into this pool instead of the plastic liner?
Safety cover?
Great Video, But the audio is poor, what happened guys?
can these pool be salt water instead of chlorine?
Yes, they can. We have options for saltwater pools and standard chlorine pools
Great video!!!!! Thank you for sharing your expertise!
I bought the pool warehouse and I live in Arizona Lake Havasu City I have not found people to install for me, can you recommend me who will install it please thank you .
What brand and model of transit are you using in this video? It actually looks like it would be easier to use when digging a pool.
Ok, because I am impatient. I decided to figure out my own question. The setup for the transit looked a lot like a water level concept. Sure enough, this appears to be a Ziplevel PRO 2000 Altimeter. Hope this helps anyone else who may have been wondering the same.
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Hi! Sorry for the delay, you can find that product here: www.poolwarehouse.com/shop/ziplevel-pro-2000b-high-precision-altimeter/
Is this something that would be available for rent?
What transit level are you using?
Who is your supplier in Toronto Ontario (Woodbridge) I am a hardscape contractor expanding my business in the pool industry
Please give us a call, 800-515-1747 extensions #1 and ask for JT, we would love to help!
the hosing header looked shady , suggest a stainless frame to mount these items ,
I want an in ground pool but this seems like a lot of hard work...
Not too sure about the Quilty of the liner bed an concrete 🤨
What was the total cost of the pool and installation?
Where in East TN was this one Built? Just wondering since that is where I’m from...
Car Coloring me too!
I'm in Smyrna, I want to visit this house and see for myself lol
@@lolllllll Im in Hendersonville.... any results? Contact info who did the install?
can i buy the kit and store it for a year or two before installation?
sure man, it's hot-dipped galvanized steel. you could leave it under the rain for months.
Yes, but not the liner. Order the liner when you need it, otherwise it will develop lines which will show.
What kind of transit is that.. Looks interesting
Building one of these pools right now. Bought the Ziplevel transit. That thing is a life saver, other than mine has proven to overheat in direct sunlight and 95 degree temperatures pretty fast. Called the company and they are going to replace mine.
@@sarrington7380 thanks for the reply wanna get my hands on one of those ..
I hadn't seen those before. Looks similar to the water levels they use here to level mobile homes. I've always used a laser. The laser is a little more laborious because it only tells you whether you're level, you have to measure depth manually.
How is stock looking for early 2021?
I'm about ready!
You may want to purchase in December or January just to be safe, 2021 is already shaping up to be a busy year.
@@SwimmingPoolKit i haven't talked to a pool contractor yet, there are a few good ones in my area. My biggest concern is, there use to be a vinyl liner in ground pool 15 years ago.
It was demolished before we bought house. Worried it will be an issue installing on previously distributed ground.
Where did you all get the forms from?
Hi you can find our foam forms here: www.poolwarehouse.com/shop/key-lock-cantilever-foam-form-kit/
Great video
I have watched about 200 hours of videos and lots of people leave the plumbing side out of it...but my guess the diagram of the plumbing may come with diagram or directions...I actually order new skid steer and mini excavator from bobcat company...I am a want to do it all kind of person and in my area is really hard to find people that A. Affordable B. Don't want to rush throughout the job etc. I believe this is the best option because you can order all from the same place, made in USA and it comes with support...not sure how good the support but sometimes simple questions are the hardest to find in the web. My only question I have for the pool warehouse team is if they help you with best practice on the pool measurements vs. your existing patio or yard available space. Also what is the perhaps basic rule of thumb when it comes to pool leveling vs. terrace existing floor? meaning could it be under or must be level or equal terrace high...or it does not really matter? last what will be a good set back to sides and back fence to be standard on must states? I am not planning to ask for a single permit. :( thank you for reading in advance
Please create a quote on our site and a rep will reach out with a call! www.poolwarehouse.com/inground-pool-kits/
@@markroberts362 You only live once...you can choose to pay away or do it yourself...I have built my home from the ground up...I must be stupid yes. But guess what when I am old seating in a park feeding the pigeon I will have a lots of memories to go back to and enjoy my last years on this earth God willing with pride and joy...what is the point to pay away all your live. All I have is been either created by me or done by me,,,including my companies. I value and respect your opinion and perhaps to some degree you are correct but all I have is because I am stupid or perhaps not ordinary/conventional person. Hope I have answer your question
there not one video showing you how to put in returns what the fittings look like etc its crazy
I have a sand bottom pool. our liner tore over the winter. after removing the old linger we found the pool had rocks in the sand. Large and medium rounded rocks. My husband is thinking this is normal and that the sand that came off the top revealed what was used to fill in the area. Common sense tells me those rocks will protrude over time and we will have a ripped liner after a year or 2 of ground settlement. Should we remove them all or go with my husband suggestion of leaving the rocks and piling sand on top of them?
In ground vinyl pools should have concrete bases. Sand is used for above ground.
What is the big difference on steel or polymer walls? Money? And what's best for salt water system.? Thanks
Use the polymer for salt application. It does not corrode as will steel.
@Scott Daniel agreed, but the corrosion factor too.
@Scott Daniel
Good to know. My wife is going to make me build her one this summer. She already decided on the polymer. She might be smarter than me. Lol
I wanted to go with polymer bc we wanted saltwater system but the polymer only had 42 inch walls. We decided on steel walls that are 48 inch. I’ve read to install a sacrificial anode and also dropping zinc anodes into the skimmers. I think with proper maintenance(water chemistry and bonding), the walls will not suffer damage.
I just dug a hole in my garden and filled with water, sure the water is brown but it does the job…
What kit is this? Style
This is the Oasis style pool kit, you can pick your shape here: www.poolwarehouse.com/inground-pool-kits/
I have a Pentair Triton ll TR100C fiberglass sand filter and can not the closer loose to replace the air bleeder ass,y which is screwed to the bottom of the closer. I have broken 2 wrenches attempting loosen the closer. I have tried smothering the entire ass,y in ice for over 1 hour and pouring coke over it, which I was told by so-called experts that would loosen it up!!!! Forget it so far nothing has worked. Anybody have any other suggestions other than buying a NEW FILTER? Bill F
Do you ship to Canada for free ? i want the 14x28 kit right now !!
Oh nice thanks for the number
So where did the flat white coping go? I see the curved cement edge, can't image it is on the coping because it would be thin on the pool side of the coping. Anyone understand this? I thought the cement met the coping and the coping was visible. That is how my last pool was.
Hi Robert, this pool was build using "Cantilever Coping" you can learn more about coping here: www.poolwarehouse.com/inground-swimming-pool-kit-coping
Robert Brown they showed it as an option but didn’t use it for this pool
All said and done, how much would this whole install and equipment run?
13k with Installation
what size of pool did you get and did you do everything yourself or contract any work?
I must say, Mr. Jones is very handsome, hee hee hee ; )
Where can I get a good deal?
Anyone in or around Middle Tennessee (Hendersonville) that can install this?
Are you sure you are not connected to IKEA ?
HAs anyone in New Jersey used this pool kit? If so can i speak to you about it?
you still need primer
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Re tightening the bonding wire screws, the NEC likely has a torque spec. to follow. Depending how anal retentive you or your inspector are.
So what I see other then the steel at top of the pool the cement on the dirt is the same way the two guys do it on primitive technology. Nothing really. Changes I guess
How much was this pool kit?
My 24750 gallon lagoon with cozy cove Jacuzzi seat, upgraded pump, salt system, and larger DE filter upgrade with cantilever coping , and 2" plumbing with 2 Aqua Genie skimmers and floor drains was just over $13k delivered.
Mine was $21,000 for a 24x44 rectangular with deep end, diving board, 9 foot slide, 350k BTU heater and their best variable speed pump. I had quotes of $50,000 to have a 20x40 with no extras professionally installed. I assume the one I just bought would have been 70-80k.
Rusty Shackleford you have to get city permits for this kind of pools. Thank you 🙏