Isn't music fascinating. I agree with you that the chorus "power of 1, power of 2, power of many" was pretty weird. Even outside of a musical context, it just felt weird and unnatural when i was watching the episode regularly. I think they probably could've chose better lyrics than those too, they seem kinda uncreative. As to the twins conception, I imagine the witches created them using some sort of dark magic or dark side of the force. If this is true, then it could make the rest of the series interesting with Osha fighting between both sides. In the clone wars series, the witches of dathomir did a similar thing with savage oppress, changing his character and morphing him to become giant and strong. I'm also curious to see what the Jedi did to contribute to all the destruction as well, being evident by many things. I'm loving these star wars musical analysis', please keep em coming!
I definitely think there will be some sort of pull on Osha between her origin and her training. I’m very curious to see where they take it. I agree too that the lyrics in general felt uncreative. Something about that entire scene felt amateur and less refined than the rest of the show. And I will absolutely continue making these videos! Thank you!
Despite the hokiness of the lyrics, I kinda liked the harmony of the choral stuff. I do think it's the first time there was a diagetic song in English in Star Wars but if you count Huttese then Lapti Nek (now Jedi Rocks I think) was the first diagetic music with lyrics.
I don’t count Lapti Nek. This felt more like something out of Lion King or really any musical where all of the sudden we move from spoken text into a full on song about one small element of the plot. (Thankfully we didn’t go there)
@@starwarsmusicanalysis Yeah, I guess I appreciate the effort at giving us some culture-porn of the coven but I don't this or the force-push scene worked for me. Maybe if the 1/2/many thing is revealed to be a more important symbolic thing later.
4:19 I thought of that part of the soundtrack as being diegetic or "diegetic augmented" and that without it the chant might have been a bit boring, it helps the feeling of it being otherworldly imo. The lyrics in Basic/English are a bit weird and took me out of it at first but I still think it fits well, I do wish it rhymed though. edit: Also, the whole diegetic augmented bit made me wonder if in Star Wars "force counterpoint" is a thing or possible. Like, could a group of force-sensitive singers improvise lines that make a coherent harmony just by communicating through the force and foreseeing what the piece is supposed to be?
The force counterpoint thing has me intrigued. There’s a Jedi in the high republic novels, Avar Kriss that senses the force like music. She’s understands people and force presences as harmonies and melodies. Your idea reminded me of her.
Another great review/breakdown! Certainly I'm not getting any better at picking out themes. So thanks in particular with noting the creepy vibe of the music as Sol is hugging Osha. I really liked this episode, although of course I wasn't trying to figure out the music. Obviously we're not getting the whole story, and I suspect it's more than just Rashomon style differing viewpoints. I suspect Osha's memories have been distorted by Sol. As for the question of how Mae and Osha were created ... it would be cool if it's a technique that would be expanded upon by Darth Plagueis or something. But for now, my guess is that it's a lot more like IVF, reflection how IVF is used by lesbian couples here on Earth. My guess is that their conception is more like Boba Fett than Anakin Skywalker. With my guess, Koril believes the twins were created purely by the Force (Thread), but Aniseya actually paid Kaminoans to create clone embryos - which she then implanted with Force telekinesis. This would reflect how real life IVF is very expensive, so most couples using IVF can only afford to try it once. One partner carries the pregnancy; the other provides the eggs. They implant multiple embryos, and if you're lucky one or two survive. That's why IVF so often results in twins. It's just that, to me, the parallels with real life IVF are so strong. And for many lesbian couples, IVF is indeed "a miracle". And if this is "political", it's not Leslie Headland's fault that the Southern Baptist Convention chose this week to formally oppose IVF. It's not her fault that the Republicans in congress decided to vote against protecting IVF this week.
Love it! I was actually wondering about the cloning as well. Is it considered illegal in the Republic? Maybe this is how everyone knows about cloning later on in fact. I don’t think they’ll blend cloning and the force because would get too complicated for even many Star Wars fans. But clearly they want us to think it’s the force. But what if it’s “just” cloning. Btw, love your connection to real society. It’s incredibly interesting how coincidental this all is. (My guess is that the Southern Baptists stopped watching Star Wars a long time ago)
@@starwarsmusicanalysis Blending cloning with the Force seems to be pretty much every other Imperial remnant's obsession, going all the way back to Dark Empire in 1991-1995. (That was the first time Palpatine "somehow returned".) It's like they have a dart board of Star Wars plots, and a Pac-Man slice of that board is "Blending cloning with the Force".
@@starwarsmusicanalysisı agree with the previous comment.. when ı heard the music in ceremony part, while it was slightly similar to eastern music too with the instruments ; the part in 03:45 is a very significant way of singing in indian songs, you can find it if you check shreya ghoshal or lata mangeshkar.. some kind of a throat movement like vibrato in opera..
I wouldn't generalize to say it's just indian, it could be pakistani vocals as well, but used generally in a lot of south asian music with traditional vocals/instruments.
Thanks. Someone else pointed this out to me right after I released the video. I’ll aim to continue improving with every breakdown. Perhaps you could share with me the specific difference though between the sound of an Arabic singer and that of an Indian singer so that I can avoid a similar mistake in the future?
the indian anthem in the minute 14.20 is outsanding i love it such a pure music from an andian voice
Yeah. I wish that had lasted longer instead of the choir singing.
YEAH TRUE feel like lisa gerrad singing or an anthem from the serie expanse or serie spartans a lovely music and voice
The theme for Brendok reminds me of JFK by John Williams
I was actually thinking how little it sounded like John Williams Star Wars but hadn’t considered JFK at all. Good call!
Isn't music fascinating. I agree with you that the chorus "power of 1, power of 2, power of many" was pretty weird. Even outside of a musical context, it just felt weird and unnatural when i was watching the episode regularly. I think they probably could've chose better lyrics than those too, they seem kinda uncreative. As to the twins conception, I imagine the witches created them using some sort of dark magic or dark side of the force. If this is true, then it could make the rest of the series interesting with Osha fighting between both sides. In the clone wars series, the witches of dathomir did a similar thing with savage oppress, changing his character and morphing him to become giant and strong. I'm also curious to see what the Jedi did to contribute to all the destruction as well, being evident by many things. I'm loving these star wars musical analysis', please keep em coming!
I definitely think there will be some sort of pull on Osha between her origin and her training. I’m very curious to see where they take it. I agree too that the lyrics in general felt uncreative. Something about that entire scene felt amateur and less refined than the rest of the show. And I will absolutely continue making these videos! Thank you!
Despite the hokiness of the lyrics, I kinda liked the harmony of the choral stuff. I do think it's the first time there was a diagetic song in English in Star Wars but if you count Huttese then Lapti Nek (now Jedi Rocks I think) was the first diagetic music with lyrics.
I don’t count Lapti Nek. This felt more like something out of Lion King or really any musical where all of the sudden we move from spoken text into a full on song about one small element of the plot. (Thankfully we didn’t go there)
@@starwarsmusicanalysis Yeah, I guess I appreciate the effort at giving us some culture-porn of the coven but I don't this or the force-push scene worked for me. Maybe if the 1/2/many thing is revealed to be a more important symbolic thing later.
4:19 I thought of that part of the soundtrack as being diegetic or "diegetic augmented" and that without it the chant might have been a bit boring, it helps the feeling of it being otherworldly imo. The lyrics in Basic/English are a bit weird and took me out of it at first but I still think it fits well, I do wish it rhymed though.
edit: Also, the whole diegetic augmented bit made me wonder if in Star Wars "force counterpoint" is a thing or possible. Like, could a group of force-sensitive singers improvise lines that make a coherent harmony just by communicating through the force and foreseeing what the piece is supposed to be?
The force counterpoint thing has me intrigued. There’s a Jedi in the high republic novels, Avar Kriss that senses the force like music. She’s understands people and force presences as harmonies and melodies. Your idea reminded me of her.
Another great review/breakdown! Certainly I'm not getting any better at picking out themes. So thanks in particular with noting the creepy vibe of the music as Sol is hugging Osha.
I really liked this episode, although of course I wasn't trying to figure out the music. Obviously we're not getting the whole story, and I suspect it's more than just Rashomon style differing viewpoints. I suspect Osha's memories have been distorted by Sol.
As for the question of how Mae and Osha were created ... it would be cool if it's a technique that would be expanded upon by Darth Plagueis or something. But for now, my guess is that it's a lot more like IVF, reflection how IVF is used by lesbian couples here on Earth. My guess is that their conception is more like Boba Fett than Anakin Skywalker.
With my guess, Koril believes the twins were created purely by the Force (Thread), but Aniseya actually paid Kaminoans to create clone embryos - which she then implanted with Force telekinesis. This would reflect how real life IVF is very expensive, so most couples using IVF can only afford to try it once. One partner carries the pregnancy; the other provides the eggs. They implant multiple embryos, and if you're lucky one or two survive. That's why IVF so often results in twins.
It's just that, to me, the parallels with real life IVF are so strong. And for many lesbian couples, IVF is indeed "a miracle".
And if this is "political", it's not Leslie Headland's fault that the Southern Baptist Convention chose this week to formally oppose IVF. It's not her fault that the Republicans in congress decided to vote against protecting IVF this week.
Love it! I was actually wondering about the cloning as well. Is it considered illegal in the Republic? Maybe this is how everyone knows about cloning later on in fact. I don’t think they’ll blend cloning and the force because would get too complicated for even many Star Wars fans. But clearly they want us to think it’s the force. But what if it’s “just” cloning.
Btw, love your connection to real society. It’s incredibly interesting how coincidental this all is. (My guess is that the Southern Baptists stopped watching Star Wars a long time ago)
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Blending cloning with the Force seems to be pretty much every other Imperial remnant's obsession, going all the way back to Dark Empire in 1991-1995. (That was the first time Palpatine "somehow returned".) It's like they have a dart board of Star Wars plots, and a Pac-Man slice of that board is "Blending cloning with the Force".
@IsaacKuo that’s fair. Haha
That is not middle Eastern music, it is all Indian from India.
Thank you. I’m not familiar enough with the subtle differences. What gives it away for you so I can be better?
@@starwarsmusicanalysisı agree with the previous comment.. when ı heard the music in ceremony part, while it was slightly similar to eastern music too with the instruments ; the part in 03:45 is a very significant way of singing in indian songs, you can find it if you check shreya ghoshal or lata mangeshkar.. some kind of a throat movement like vibrato in opera..
@seliniris2753 thank you!
I wouldn't generalize to say it's just indian, it could be pakistani vocals as well, but used generally in a lot of south asian music with traditional vocals/instruments.
“traditions of middle east” is incorrect, that type of vocal originates from the indian subcontinent. please fact check before posting
Thanks. Someone else pointed this out to me right after I released the video. I’ll aim to continue improving with every breakdown.
Perhaps you could share with me the specific difference though between the sound of an Arabic singer and that of an Indian singer so that I can avoid a similar mistake in the future?