Hey peace and love from a trans guy! The creator who Nadi hounded uses He/They prns, and this actually made Nadi look 10x worse. Instead of just apologizing, adjusting the pronoun usage, and moving on, she doubled down. She did a live stream and apparently she said that the creator doesnt deserve their correct pronouns being used because they’re a horrible person. I could be wrong because I didnt see this. But It is worth noting along with her recent community post. I’d take a look at the comments there too because they also point out some stuff from the stream.
This is honestly so gross, her missgendering feels like at the best is out of pettiness, since she seems to hate being corrected (still a bad reason to missgender someone), and at worst she is a bigot who just hide it at first, to not get a (deserved) backlash
@@a_naotenhonome780 yeah it upset me when I saw it, like cmon, why does every controversy spiral into transphobia? Like every time? How are people this hateful, all people requested of her was to correct herself but she just dug a bigger hole.
Nondi: Y’ALL NEED TO STOP LETTING THESE BIG RUclipsRS INFLUENCE YOU AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS Joustaa + other artists: well okay. I did research and I still don’t agree with you Nondi: YOURE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT, YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO AGREE WITH ME 😡😡😡😡 Edit: oh btw the creator in question goes by He/They
I always thought Nondi was in her late teens to early 20's at most. But now finding out she's almost 30 just has me baffled. You do not act like a teen at almost 30 😭
I liked OwONekko's mlp redesign videos but 5:25 made me lose all respect for her. Immature as hell "nice argument but I drew myself as the chad and you as the soyjak" behavior
That creator goes by He/They pronouns by the way! it's really grating to see, as a more fem presenting trans guy myself that people just assume instead of double checking if the info of the person your referring to is correct, especially for something as essential as pronouns. iirc they even mention the creator's pronouns in Jouusta's video.
@Lemoncakelover678 I DIDNT KNOW GINGA WAS TRANS-Ive never really thought or spoke of Pronouns when it came to him though and I'm not really on Twitter 😭...
I just feel like this whole situation might just be ragebait coming from OWOnekko's part...? Because she did get a lot of attention from this drama and it all just feels a little out of the blue.
I feel like even if people were respectful Nondi would still get upset by the comments as the original comment she got was pretty respectful in my opinion and she did ALL THIS! I’m really disappointed in OwONekko as her whole shtick was lifting up other artists her content and art was genuinely enjoyable but apparently that wasn’t “the real her” and “the real her” is an immature petty person who can not take criticism a bully’s people who disagree with her. I had to unsubscribe and block her after her second livestream cause I couldn’t take it anymore. I thought I finally found a creator who had no drama. I’m just glad she didn’t turn out to be a pedo too 💀
@@TBG1 oh my gosh I know!! The only RUclipsr that I liked who hasn’t done anything controversial was Matpat! He just retired! Though I still see him pop up literally everywhere on the internet lmao. I’m just praying my favorite gaming RUclipsrs stay good 💀
Uhh I went to nondi’s oldest videos and I found her video about the 5 month old, it wasn’t taken down Maybe she unprivated it? Idk… ruclips.net/video/dLiJMlXcXVY/видео.htmlsi=pl5c4PHVWcr7yLwe
creator goes by he/they btw! misgendering someone the first time is an innocent mistake, of course, but nondi refused to call them by their preferred pronouns, kinda petty and immature if you ask me.
bro I’ve been watching Nondi for 1 year and she’s getting so damn pressed over someone (rightfully) not liking AI💀 *( btw you probably already know but the creator uses He/They :] )*
Hed kill me if i mentioned it as a vid but he came into my server to harrass my mods instead of messaging me privatly then left pressure devs in my svr to watch me 😞 hes like twice my age
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST?? Is he mentally okay?? What even compels someone to do that, and think it's okay? I hope you and your mods are doing okay now, and that he doesn't harass your mods again, since you seem super nice :(
To be honest, im actually shocked cuz ive been watching her for so long, and now that i started watching her again, this happens, neko sounds like a child throwing a tantrum 😂
good video! i agree with everything you said and i like how you condensed everything. also, jus letting you know that the "owo" in nekko's name pronounced like "oh-wo", like uwu but with o's 😭
Þ i c c Sorry, I saw an opportunity and took it 😂 I’ve never seen the thorn used in English comments before and couldn’t stop myself. But yes, agreed lmao
I think Nandi should take a break off the internet to stop she from doing more irrational stuff. Love your art , oc and commentary as we have very similar content 💙💙
I'm also fairly certain that people said it was fine if she was neutral with her stance, as long as she demonitised the music but she refused, which is why people were more angry. I can't really say I liked Nondi before all of this (I personally didn't really enjoy the vibe she gave me) but I at least respected her videos, now I can't even give her that respect.
I was under the impression that Nondi made the lyrics put it through an AI voice and just posted it as the playlist. I'm honestly shocked at everything since she always portrayed herself as knowing when she's wrong and all for lifting up others and smaller artists. It's just all really weird behavior from her. Like she should know better.
They just uploaded a new video, you should be a chad and cover it so peeps like me can see what dumb shittery shes saying to excuse herself now/if shes turning a new leaf (doubt it but hopeful) kinda really dont want to give her my view cause her last few stunts :"3
Here's the truth, AI it's not for artists to use, it's a laziest thing to other people, if people using AI to express their self, no, do you think AI is for lazy people
im so sad because not only she's being extremely immature about this but also misgendered someone trans on twitter bc they were calling her out on this Like do you really have to disrespect people like this to make a point?
Im not gonna say neko is 100% right, or nandi (i dont even know who that is) but everyone is allowed to have their own opinion as long as it isnt disrespectful, including when it comes to AI, i dont think she shouldve stole peoples songs. But please everyone know, everyone makes mistake and people can change. Maybe she wont act like this forever, ig im never following Nandi and im unsubbing to Neko.
On the music side noone cares about being the meme police tbh, maybe Lars Ulrich, but for the most part the music industry is built on loops, samples and autotune, the equivalent to tracing everything, ai just traces faster and is good for memes, songs that would not make sense to make otherwise because they are not cost effective.
personally my feelings are somewhat mixed on ai "art". i feel is good as long as one is using it respectfully. and by respectfully i mean to learn and grow from it, that being by copying techniques or something from the ai art that you may find appealing like colors and such. and when it comes to generating ai, i dont really mind it as long as its done in fun and later forgotten and not posted claiming to be someone art. but what i am greatly against is businesses and companies replacing artists for something as low as ai "art". the definition of artist is "a person who produces paintings or drawings as a profession or hobby." notice how it says person? art has been created by humans for over more then 40,000 years. and its cruel that other individuals that arent blessed with artistic ability resort to ai art just because they dont want to spend a few bucks. that now my question is can ai "art" replicate emotion? the obvious answer is no, it cant. its a robot. no matter how good the piece may look when zoomed out and not noticing the other details ai art isnt human. it isnt okay. (im really sorry for any grammer misspellings i may have, my first language is spanish and im dyslexic)
I didnt think she was monetized. Like, sure ads play on her channel but i remember her saying in that milk song that shes not actually monetized. If she is then yeah yhat makes the ai vid completely off
It's weird, yes. I just think it's overkill to paint someone as a creep(even if that's not the intention) without it being 1. Related to the topic Or 2. Something the creator is still active on/stands on
Comes off as an unnecessary smear is all, even if non intentional. The rest of the video was coherent and pretty well put together, just don't see the need to put that last thing in
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The creator that commented on owonekkos video goes by he/they I think!!!
And Nondi felt the need to purposefully misgender them and block people who corrected her 💀
So did this creator, considering she already watched Jouustas response video and yet ignored that part :/@@Jaxzul_Blue
If you're born a female, then everyone has the right to call you she/her
Why do people care about gender so much….
@@Nigerminja owonekko has been transphobic towards them+ misgendering them so I don’t want people to be confused or rude
Hey peace and love from a trans guy! The creator who Nadi hounded uses He/They prns, and this actually made Nadi look 10x worse. Instead of just apologizing, adjusting the pronoun usage, and moving on, she doubled down. She did a live stream and apparently she said that the creator doesnt deserve their correct pronouns being used because they’re a horrible person. I could be wrong because I didnt see this. But It is worth noting along with her recent community post. I’d take a look at the comments there too because they also point out some stuff from the stream.
This is honestly so gross, her missgendering feels like at the best is out of pettiness, since she seems to hate being corrected (still a bad reason to missgender someone), and at worst she is a bigot who just hide it at first, to not get a (deserved) backlash
@@a_naotenhonome780 yeah it upset me when I saw it, like cmon, why does every controversy spiral into transphobia? Like every time? How are people this hateful, all people requested of her was to correct herself but she just dug a bigger hole.
@@9GORGON9 yes it just super disrespectful
Fellow trans guy here. That was the point where I unsubscribed from her, that disgusted me so much.
"Apparently" so you dont even know? Also she could have just not known. Misgendering isn't transphobic if it's by accident
Nondi: Y’ALL NEED TO STOP LETTING THESE BIG RUclipsRS INFLUENCE YOU AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH AND COME TO YOUR OWN CONCLUSIONS
Joustaa + other artists: well okay. I did research and I still don’t agree with you
Nondi: YOURE NOT SUPPOSED TO DO THAT, YOU’RE SUPPOSED TO AGREE WITH ME 😡😡😡😡
Edit: oh btw the creator in question goes by He/They
I always thought Nondi was in her late teens to early 20's at most. But now finding out she's almost 30 just has me baffled. You do not act like a teen at almost 30 😭
Age doesn't= personality
@@mrpickles-hb6zx I noticed. Still low key high key disappointing. Thought she had the capacity to think before hittin send. Several times
What?? This bitch is as old as I am!
@@mrpickles-hb6zx Yeah, but at her age she would at least be mature. She come across as immature in this drama specially for her age.
WHAT!!! same she needs to act like a actual adult
I liked OwONekko's mlp redesign videos but 5:25 made me lose all respect for her. Immature as hell "nice argument but I drew myself as the chad and you as the soyjak" behavior
That creator goes by He/They pronouns by the way! it's really grating to see, as a more fem presenting trans guy myself that people just assume instead of double checking if the info of the person your referring to is correct, especially for something as essential as pronouns. iirc they even mention the creator's pronouns in
Jouusta's video.
Thanks for this but who’s the creator
@@thevioletskull8158ginja ninja! He transitioned to male and uses he/they on his twitter
Fem trans men shall RISE‼️
@@thevioletskull8158 I believe it's ActuallyRea
@Lemoncakelover678 I DIDNT KNOW GINGA WAS TRANS-Ive never really thought or spoke of Pronouns when it came to him though and I'm not really on Twitter 😭...
I just feel like this whole situation might just be ragebait coming from OWOnekko's part...?
Because she did get a lot of attention from this drama and it all just feels a little out of the blue.
it's also strange how they suddenly came out to go by they/them AFTER this all happened. Very weirdly 'perfectly timed..'
Her response was so immature and embarrassing, and the transphobia is just yikes
Your thumbnail made me snort water thru my nose 😭😂😂 I’m in pain but I’m still laughing
I feel like even if people were respectful Nondi would still get upset by the comments as the original comment she got was pretty respectful in my opinion and she did ALL THIS!
I’m really disappointed in OwONekko as her whole shtick was lifting up other artists her content and art was genuinely enjoyable but apparently that wasn’t “the real her” and “the real her” is an immature petty person who can not take criticism a bully’s people who disagree with her. I had to unsubscribe and block her after her second livestream cause I couldn’t take it anymore. I thought I finally found a creator who had no drama. I’m just glad she didn’t turn out to be a pedo too 💀
Dude, frfr. Every new channel I discovered turned out to be wild in a negative way. MandoPony, CSA, iilluminaughtii, owonekko. What is going on
@@TBG1 oh my gosh I know!! The only RUclipsr that I liked who hasn’t done anything controversial was Matpat! He just retired! Though I still see him pop up literally everywhere on the internet lmao. I’m just praying my favorite gaming RUclipsrs stay good 💀
@@Kittyboi. this. God, I just hope Dawko stays good. The guy's my comfort youtuber + fnaf is cool
Random question, but what app do you use for your pngtuber? Also tysm for covering this topic !!
PngTuber+ :3
@@JuniDrawz thank youuuu!!!
owonekkos position on all the drama gives me mixed emotions. Also amazing video Juni!!! :D
Uhh I went to nondi’s oldest videos and I found her video about the 5 month old, it wasn’t taken down
Maybe she unprivated it? Idk…
ruclips.net/video/dLiJMlXcXVY/видео.htmlsi=pl5c4PHVWcr7yLwe
WHAT. OH MY GOD
@@JuniDrawz I know :(
D:
oh… that’s not… oh god..
The what?
Edit: Just saw it....WHAT. IN THE FUCK
creator goes by he/they btw! misgendering someone the first time is an innocent mistake, of course, but nondi refused to call them by their preferred pronouns, kinda petty and immature if you ask me.
bro I’ve been watching Nondi for 1 year and she’s getting so damn pressed over someone (rightfully) not liking AI💀
*( btw you probably already know but the creator uses He/They :] )*
Great thumbnail and video, thank you for standing up for artist
Awesome video. Also Jo’s channel is pronounced like Joust-uh.
me when I am more curious about the Zeal (pressure) drama 😔
If i make a video he gon get me 😞
god i hate pressure drama i love the game sm :/
theres more?!? I only knew about the Zerum sebastian drama (which was primarily the fault of *rabid* shippers)
no more pressure drama please 😭
@@JuniDrawzBRO GONNA JUMP YOU LMAOO??? 😭😭😭
10:59 so um no, actually she's almost 30, so she was very much over 18 when she drew that stuff 💀👍
I used to like owo until this drama.. 1
13:41 alsoo tysmm for putting my fan art in!!
AWE NPP ITS SO CUTEEE
@@JuniDrawz tyyy!!! :D
marker pfp :0
I really wanna know why you don't fw Zeal, PLEASE enlighten me so I don't accidentally support someone shitty
Hed kill me if i mentioned it as a vid but he came into my server to harrass my mods instead of messaging me privatly then left pressure devs in my svr to watch me 😞 hes like twice my age
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST?? Is he mentally okay?? What even compels someone to do that, and think it's okay?
I hope you and your mods are doing okay now, and that he doesn't harass your mods again, since you seem super nice :(
To be honest, im actually shocked cuz ive been watching her for so long, and now that i started watching her again, this happens, neko sounds like a child throwing a tantrum 😂
good video! i agree with everything you said and i like how you condensed everything. also, jus letting you know that the "owo" in nekko's name pronounced like "oh-wo", like uwu but with o's 😭
LMAO I LOVE THE THUMNAIL😂
Juni posted!! but yeah þe stuff going on is pretty disappointing, especially for someone þat i saw as talented and cool :( it's pretty saddening
oh the th sound letter! (forgot what its called oop)
@@help9737 thorn :3
@@help9737it’s called thorn
@shellm-452judging by their username i’d assume they’re nordic and use the þ letter bc they can if they want
Þ i c c
Sorry, I saw an opportunity and took it 😂 I’ve never seen the thorn used in English comments before and couldn’t stop myself. But yes, agreed lmao
And also she didn’t make another video that was a live stream!
I think Nandi should take a break off the internet to stop she from doing more irrational stuff. Love your art , oc and commentary as we have very similar content 💙💙
I'm also fairly certain that people said it was fine if she was neutral with her stance, as long as she demonitised the music but she refused, which is why people were more angry. I can't really say I liked Nondi before all of this (I personally didn't really enjoy the vibe she gave me) but I at least respected her videos, now I can't even give her that respect.
Wake ppl Juni posted ❤❤❤❤
I was under the impression that Nondi made the lyrics put it through an AI voice and just posted it as the playlist. I'm honestly shocked at everything since she always portrayed herself as knowing when she's wrong and all for lifting up others and smaller artists. It's just all really weird behavior from her. Like she should know better.
U character is cute! 😍
Just went to check her channel and I see the livestream still up?
She did a livestream a couple days before that.
@@siegejaymoonii Ohh alright I assumed they were talking about the most current one
10:26 people make fun for my art claims fuck up yet she done exactly that.
Do we really need Lily Orchard 0.2 in this platform? I swear it's always those egocentric self righteous people...
I enjoyed your video sm that I missed yhe bus
HELP TYSSMM I HOPE U GOT HOME SAFE!!!!! ❤️
@@JuniDrawz I did dw
if you cant afford song writers is ok to use ai to make chords for a song and then you edit it, write the lyrics and sing over it??
LETS GO, RANK IN THAT MONEY GIRLIE
i was not expecting zeal to be mentioned at the end what happened 😭LMFAO
Look thru comments :3
YESSSS, she was double and tripling down
Honestly if someone drew my ocs to look stupid to basically be like a wojak, I'd probably cry 😭
lol nekko turned off her comments? Couldn't handle rightful criticism.
5:24 The video has not been removed from the channel
lol nice thumbnail, cant make a caricature if you've caricatured yourself.
But junni u drew that 😅🤣🙏🏼
Wait I looked at your description and it said something about Zeal? What's that about?
Check other comments :333
What’s up with the description, what did Zeal do?
They just uploaded a new video, you should be a chad and cover it so peeps like me can see what dumb shittery shes saying to excuse herself now/if shes turning a new leaf (doubt it but hopeful) kinda really dont want to give her my view cause her last few stunts :"3
I'm sorry but your thumbnail is literally " I've already depicted you as the Soyjak and me as the Chad" meme
It’s a comeback on what owonekko did to another creator. Specifically joousta
It's a play on Nondi's reply to jousta, where they drew them like how Juni drew themself
Its all putting words into her mouth istg
Um I have a question, I was wondering if I could join the discord server in ur bio? I don’t wanna join and not be allowed to
YEAH OFCC ITS BEING FIXED RN
@@JuniDrawz oh oki!
I think she's having a mental health episode
OwONekko is basically whining because we don't agree with her because of her follower count.
Had to pause at around 5:40 because I couldn't tell if the sirens were coming from the video or outside lol
The thumbnail
mr krabs would be ashamed to see this
You forgot the stuff that they're doing on twitter
She would say constantly throughout her stream that she's just gonna be herself
Here's the truth, AI it's not for artists to use, it's a laziest thing to other people, if people using AI to express their self, no, do you think AI is for lazy people
im so sad because not only she's being extremely immature about this but also misgendered someone trans on twitter bc they were calling her out on this
Like do you really have to disrespect people like this to make a point?
I have a odd feeling I know who that anonymous creator was but I don't want to say anything just yet
WHO WAS THE BIG CREATOR 😭😭😭 please somone told me
I watched the 30 min video, she yelled a lot and began repeating herself fof the bottom half of the video
Didn’t realise yku were a RUclipsr
The anonymous youtuber uses they/he pronouns
*TEENAGER* jumpscare at 7:24
Im not gonna say neko is 100% right, or nandi (i dont even know who that is) but everyone is allowed to have their own opinion as long as it isnt disrespectful, including when it comes to AI, i dont think she shouldve stole peoples songs. But please everyone know, everyone makes mistake and people can change. Maybe she wont act like this forever, ig im never following Nandi and im unsubbing to Neko.
Nandi (spelt Nondi) is OwOnekko
Who was the creator 💀
ZEAL DID WHAT NOW?????
Its hilarious how u used that one ugly drawing she made for ur oc lmao
:3
On the music side noone cares about being the meme police tbh, maybe Lars Ulrich, but for the most part the music industry is built on loops, samples and autotune, the equivalent to tracing everything, ai just traces faster and is good for memes, songs that would not make sense to make otherwise because they are not cost effective.
personally my feelings are somewhat mixed on ai "art". i feel is good as long as one is using it respectfully. and by respectfully i mean to learn and grow from it, that being by copying techniques or something from the ai art that you may find appealing like colors and such. and when it comes to generating ai, i dont really mind it as long as its done in fun and later forgotten and not posted claiming to be someone art. but what i am greatly against is businesses and companies replacing artists for something as low as ai "art". the definition of artist is "a person who produces paintings or drawings as a profession or hobby." notice how it says person? art has been created by humans for over more then 40,000 years. and its cruel that other individuals that arent blessed with artistic ability resort to ai art just because they dont want to spend a few bucks. that now my question is can ai "art" replicate emotion? the obvious answer is no, it cant. its a robot. no matter how good the piece may look when zoomed out and not noticing the other details ai art isnt human. it isnt okay. (im really sorry for any grammer misspellings i may have, my first language is spanish and im dyslexic)
I didnt think she was monetized. Like, sure ads play on her channel but i remember her saying in that milk song that shes not actually monetized. If she is then yeah yhat makes the ai vid completely off
tbh i always hated owonekko
Her voice made me feel so negative when I tried to watch her videos 😭 she always gave me an odd feeling/vibe and I always felt bad for it
Big surprise🙄
Owonekko = lies about his/their age, loves ai (we don't) and acts like a child
Petition to ban ai/ Petition ban owonekko
Great video i just dont understand why its necessary to bring up old stuff that she obviously doesnt agree with anymore
It's weird, yes. I just think it's overkill to paint someone as a creep(even if that's not the intention) without it being 1. Related to the topic
Or 2. Something the creator is still active on/stands on
Comes off as an unnecessary smear is all, even if non intentional. The rest of the video was coherent and pretty well put together, just don't see the need to put that last thing in
“Owonekko is losing it” then its lukewarm post and yall over exaggerate to much.
“Exaggerating?” Uh, the response those caricature drawings aren’t exactly an exaggeration…
Putting words into her mouth is insane..
If you think that’s insane, did you forget what the original thumbnail that this one’s was parodying? 💀
Hey the creator goes by he/they!!
She's still a woman so
@@mrpickles-hb6zx no, he’s a man
4:12 "you destroyed music" was all i heard im sorry 😢