I thought this was gonna go into the censorship of movies post 9/11 but it was more of an ideological perspective of what was popular and in the top 20 grossing movies of 2002-present day. Good watch.
Yeah, I agree. We've pointed out ancient decades as having escapist films in response to wars and depressions, or how such events shape the trends of films, but I've never seen that mentioned in retrospect of recent decades
How much of it is conscious/unconscious is interesting to think about it, too. It's not mentioned directly in the video, but the "torture porn" trend boomed in horror in the eaely 2000s, too. Movies like Saw, Hostel, Wolf Creek ... got more brutal and meanspirited, and you have to wonder if that was a symptom of filmmakers' anger at the time, or because audiences had seen real terror on TV, and so movie violence had to be amped up to elicit a visceral response.
For there to be a direct correlation like you’re talking about you’d have to be unable to find similar examples 10 years earlier, or 20 years earlier. There have always been movies and stories about the banality of life. There have always been stories that make us feel uneasy and vulnerable. This feels like dream interpretation. You’re finding things you want to find and it says more about you than the movie industry. It’s not a bad thing and these were fun clips to revisit. You’re telling a good story. But, the connecting line feels weak … specifically because you can draw the same lines 10 years earlier, or 20 or whatever. The main thing about the matrix is a question about what is real … something humanity has questioned for thousands of years … and it didn’t do well because humanity in 1999 resonated with questions about where we were headed … it did well because it was a great story told well with incredible special effects.
Good point. I think most art criticism is pretty close to dream interpretation, really. Where it gets interesting for me, though, are the patterns that emerge. Sure, there are always movies of every type in every decade, but the fact that Office Space and American Beauty are basically the same story told through different tones, released the same year, has always jumped out at me. And just like Fight Club and The Matrix, they're about characters desperate to escape seemingless meaningless lives/routines. That suggests that there was something in the air in 1999. But -- I'm sure compelling counter-arguments exist, too, and I'd love to see them. That we all see movies from different perspectives is what makes them so rich, and fun, to talk about.
@@SeeThisMovieYT the video is definitely well put together and enjoyable. I’m not a movie buff and I’m not sure if I can identify movies from a decade or two earlier well enough. Will put some thought into it though. What you put together is definitely enjoyable. 👍
Funny how any mentions of the numbers 9 and 11 in movies in the same scene during the 80s and 90s, always has someone falling from or dying in a helicopter somewhere in the same film. ~ Chile '73
Movies seem to be getting more shallow, they play by very strict rules but have massive budgets so we just end up with a bigger pile of mediocre. I wouldn't be surprised if the indie scene picks up like it did in gaming.
I know what you mean. It's a weird time for movies right now. Good stuff is always breaking through (just this past month I caught up with Challengers, Hit Man, The First Omen, Godzilla Minus One ...), but I do wonder when/if we'll ever see mid-budget movies top the box office again.
True. Peeping Tom, Black Christmas and Halloween all used handhelds, too, long before. The boom in the early 2000s is what I find interesting, though. Combining that aeshetic with the kind of imagery found in something like "Cloverfield" -- or Speilberg seeing an attack through the lens of a handheld in "War of the Worlds." -- seems meaningful to me.
I thought this was gonna go into the censorship of movies post 9/11 but it was more of an ideological perspective of what was popular and in the top 20 grossing movies of 2002-present day. Good watch.
How quickly the trends shift, and how different the movies get, is pretty fascinating. A lot can happen in 10 years!
Didn’t even realize this was a small channel such a good video!
Awesome - glad you liked it!
That’s a handsome voice
Damn dude this was a hidden gem of a video. Makes you wonder if society is affected more by films or films are portrayals of the times.
Thanks, man! I think it's mostly circular -- life influences art / art influences life -- but distance helps to highlight the trends, for sure.
Yeah, I agree. We've pointed out ancient decades as having escapist films in response to wars and depressions, or how such events shape the trends of films, but I've never seen that mentioned in retrospect of recent decades
How much of it is conscious/unconscious is interesting to think about it, too. It's not mentioned directly in the video, but the "torture porn" trend boomed in horror in the eaely 2000s, too. Movies like Saw, Hostel, Wolf Creek ... got more brutal and meanspirited, and you have to wonder if that was a symptom of filmmakers' anger at the time, or because audiences had seen real terror on TV, and so movie violence had to be amped up to elicit a visceral response.
For there to be a direct correlation like you’re talking about you’d have to be unable to find similar examples 10 years earlier, or 20 years earlier.
There have always been movies and stories about the banality of life. There have always been stories that make us feel uneasy and vulnerable.
This feels like dream interpretation. You’re finding things you want to find and it says more about you than the movie industry.
It’s not a bad thing and these were fun clips to revisit. You’re telling a good story. But, the connecting line feels weak … specifically because you can draw the same lines 10 years earlier, or 20 or whatever. The main thing about the matrix is a question about what is real … something humanity has questioned for thousands of years … and it didn’t do well because humanity in 1999 resonated with questions about where we were headed … it did well because it was a great story told well with incredible special effects.
Good point. I think most art criticism is pretty close to dream interpretation, really. Where it gets interesting for me, though, are the patterns that emerge. Sure, there are always movies of every type in every decade, but the fact that Office Space and American Beauty are basically the same story told through different tones, released the same year, has always jumped out at me. And just like Fight Club and The Matrix, they're about characters desperate to escape seemingless meaningless lives/routines. That suggests that there was something in the air in 1999.
But -- I'm sure compelling counter-arguments exist, too, and I'd love to see them. That we all see movies from different perspectives is what makes them so rich, and fun, to talk about.
@@SeeThisMovieYT the video is definitely well put together and enjoyable. I’m not a movie buff and I’m not sure if I can identify movies from a decade or two earlier well enough.
Will put some thought into it though.
What you put together is definitely enjoyable. 👍
Is anyone else sick of super hero shit? or fantasy shit with dragons? because at this point i'm just wanting something "new" out of hollywood.
Funny how any mentions of the numbers 9 and 11 in movies in the same scene during the 80s and 90s, always has someone falling from or dying in a helicopter somewhere in the same film. ~ Chile '73
Movies seem to be getting more shallow, they play by very strict rules but have massive budgets so we just end up with a bigger pile of mediocre.
I wouldn't be surprised if the indie scene picks up like it did in gaming.
I know what you mean. It's a weird time for movies right now. Good stuff is always breaking through (just this past month I caught up with Challengers, Hit Man, The First Omen, Godzilla Minus One ...), but I do wonder when/if we'll ever see mid-budget movies top the box office again.
6:00. But the hand held camera aesthetic came from the Blair Witch Project. Not 9/11.
True. Peeping Tom, Black Christmas and Halloween all used handhelds, too, long before. The boom in the early 2000s is what I find interesting, though. Combining that aeshetic with the kind of imagery found in something like "Cloverfield" -- or Speilberg seeing an attack through the lens of a handheld in "War of the Worlds." -- seems meaningful to me.
I really enjoyed that video, keep it up
Thanks - I definitely will!
This video was incredibly impressive and i enjoyed the whole thing. If you keep making videos like this, you'll gain a larger audience in no time
Thanks a lot -- I really appreciate that!
Lester from American Beauty is a gross PDF.
And disgustingly selfish. Just a horrible person.
His wife is better off without him.